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CONFLICTS AS TO THE THE LOCATION/ IDENTITY OF LHO ARE REAL EVENTS NO MATTER WHAT THE ANTI H & L GROUP ASSERTS. Below a collection of JUST (JUST !!!!! ) 1963 October. BOX with notebook numbers and link to Baylor University Armstrong search page provided. gaal

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http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/landingpage/collection/po-arm

About this collection

For ten years, John Armstrong conducted research for his book Harvey & Lee [Arlington, Tex. : Quasar, c2003]. His travels took him all over the country and to several foreign countries gathering materials and conducting interviews. His research resulted in 100,000+pages of documents, dozens of reels of microfilm, many books and hundreds of photographs. He arranged his materials into dozens of oversize notebooks which were divided into topics and subtopics. The W. R. Poage Legislative Library and Riley Digitization Center at Baylor University began digitizing these notebooks in November, 2009 and completed work in the Spring of 2011.

Browse the digitized contents of each notebook, arranged by subject

Browse the digitized contents of each subject tab

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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
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KOPY Radio in Alice, TX
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
South Texas Sightings
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
John Kaylock - 1963-10-02
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Evelyn Sheppard
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Hotel La Salle, New Orleans, 1963-10-03
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
J.G. Hardin 1963-10-03
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Harry Sanderson, 1963-10-03
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
YMCA 1963-10-03
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
JOBCO employ - 1963-10-04
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Carroll Jarnagin, 1963-10-04
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Heber Springs, AR - 1963-10-05
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
LHO - Parry Russo - 1963-10-07
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Mrs. Lovell Penn - 1963-10-06 see links last page more info

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=313608

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=313639

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Cristobal Landivar
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Michigan State University
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Wilbyrn Litchfield
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Martinsburg, PA - Oct. 1963
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Student Directorate of Cuba Meeting
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Grays Cleaners
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Houston - Oct. 15, 16, 17
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Milton Kaack
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Grand Prairie - 1963-10-23
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Laurel Kittral
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Deluxe Diner
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Spring Branch, TX 1963-10-24
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Baton Rouge, LA - 1963-10-25
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
James Gallaher - Oct.
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Court of Two Sisters
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Statler-Hilton
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Unverified Sightings
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
South Cliff Motel - Dallas
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Dorothy Peeples - 1963-10-25
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Waco, TX
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Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963
Job at Little Red Barn
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JUST OCTOBER CONFLICTS !!!!!!!,gaal

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Bernie I will say this one last f'ing time. I READ THE BOOK. I started to read it a third time and take notes which I do plan to get back to. This has gotten very ugly with all the name calling and so many of you arguing from total ignorance. I don't know why anyone bothers to argue this here. It's like arguing with a lone nutter: a total waste of time. I have kept away from this site and especially this thread yet you see fit to just throw me into it once again. I could care less what you all think on this issue. Or God. Or f'ing life. That you must continue to attack a book you all refuse to even read is actually a bit amusing if it was not so damn embarrassing.

Dawn the only reason I raise that point is to counter the accusation that we have to read the entire book before we can make a judgement. When JVB used to come on here she tried to sell her story. It was and is utter nonsense. You too may think it's nonsense. And you would have enough information from the author's own words to form your own judgement. You could ask her questions on points you find difficult to accept. If her story is true it will hold up against criticism and more and more people would be inspired to want to buy and read it. Or, as happened, the points raised will be so pertinent and so difficult to answer with any credibility that eventually her promotion of it will reveal major flaws when thoroughly questioned.

Would it be fair of her to demand that everyone reads the FULL book before making a judgement, even after she had failed to convince no more than half dozen converts?

I've asked this a few times now: what new information are we going to find in the book that hasn't been shown to us by H&L supporters on this forum or on your own H&L site?

Ok Dawn, fair do's, it was a few years ago now that you mentioned you hadn't fully read H&L, and it's a bit childish of me to keep going on about it. My apologies.

Thank you Bernie and apology accepted. Your Baker analogy is interesting but not a true analogy. JA did 12 years of first hand research, and I don't mean just looking at documents, though he also did tons of that. He tracked things, places and people down. There is no way to summarize his work as it is so incredibly detailed. People just have to read the book. When I gave the presentation for him at COPA on the 50th I had read about 70% of this LONG book. The presentation was a lot of new stuff on how Harvey and Lee figured into the Tippit shooting. It was John's work not my own. With Baker she is telling her personal story. A very long time ago, in 2004, for reasons I will not post here I believed her. Then like many others I began to dig deeper. I did read her book and it's a good read but I long ago stopped believing anything she says. She is almost like a mentally ill person to me. Her need to insert herself into this case borders on total madness. And yet many do believe her, on facebook mainly where I don't think a lot of people have done the serious reading or research. I have had to block some people there due to her. Arguments defending her and people believing that someone put glass in her food in Canada for example. Her tall tales just grow and grow. Her ego is very much involved too. John on the other hand is one of the most un- ego driven people I have ever encountered in the research community. I have been involved in this community since 1973 and know or have known most of the major players and in my opinion a lot of the bickering is ego based. I have been saddened by this my entire adult life as we are really a small group, compared to the world populace at large and I know the powers that be have been aware of all of the discord since the start. It's just one more notch in their arsenal. I had hoped after the 50th I could actually just walk away from all of this, but it has consumed so much of my life since day one that it's become like breathing almost. I hold NO conviction that the media or any government agency will ever fess up, or that things will ever improve. So I try to focus on all of the other blessings in my life to remain optimistic and happy.

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Some people sighted LHO in 1963!!!

There you then.

You've proved H&L beyond doubt!

Gaal is sneakily hoping that the reader will assume that these 'inconsistencies' were while one of them was in the USSR, as we were originally talking about.

He's decided to craftily move the goalposts.

There was a sighting of me earlier this morning. Maybe I am part of a doppelganger programme.

Thick as mince...

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Some people sighted LHO in 1963!!!

There you then.

You've proved H&L beyond doubt!

Gaal is sneakily hoping that the reader will assume that these 'inconsistencies' were while one of them was in the USSR, as we were originally talking about.

He's decided to craftily move the goalposts.

There was a sighting of me earlier this morning. Maybe I am part of a doppelganger programme.

Thick as mince...

  • Per your own posting ,you seem to travel to many TAVERNS (part of your self proclaimed, " I have a life"), I posit that there are two LAVERICKS.
  • Pre pints and post pints, (there might be a third ... "oh last night tooooooo many pints")
  • JUST ONE OF SAID SIGHTINGS ABOVE CORRECT AND DOUBLE OSWALDS IDEA IS CORRECT.
  • IF H & L true, then open up the champagne !!!!!!
  • THANKS gaal
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Good to see tommy and BL more concerned with any other subject but learning about the one at hand...

the concepts of metaphor and simile eludes you as badly as the concept of source backed responses not based on what you think but what you know...

if you knew 1/10th about H&L as it appears you do about language, you'd be worth talking to about it... but you don't...

So yes, please keep on posting these terrible responses which illustrate the extent of your abilities and knowledge...

nothing makes you three look more foolish than any one of your posts...

Like free advertising... priceless

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Some people sighted LHO in 1963!!!

There you then.

You've proved H&L beyond doubt!

Gaal is sneakily hoping that the reader will assume that these 'inconsistencies' were while one of them was in the USSR, as we were originally talking about.

He's decided to craftily move the goalposts.

There was a sighting of me earlier this morning. Maybe I am part of a doppelganger programme.

Thick as mince...

  • Per your own posting ,you seem to travel to many TAVERNS (part of your self proclaimed, " I have a life"), I posit that there are two LAVERICKS.
  • Pre pints and post pints, (there might be a third ... "oh last night tooooooo many pints")
  • JUST ONE OF SAID SIGHTINGS ABOVE CORRECT AND DOUBLE OSWALDS IDEA IS CORRECT.
  • IF H & L true, then open up the champagne !!!!!!
  • THANKS gaal

So in Gaal's world to "have a life" simply means drinking beer in a tavern. It's all a lot sadder than I thought.

Wouldn't you just love to have one. eh? A life that is, not a beer. After all, beer is the Devil's brew. Get caught drinking that and you may incite His wrath and cause another global flooding.

No worries, Gaal can be the new Noah, guiding the animals onto his ark two by two...two frogs, two giraffes, two beetles, two Oswalds...

Tea total. Sorry.

Try another smear.

Would Jesus approve of your smear tactics?

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Some people sighted LHO in 1963!!!

There you then.

You've proved H&L beyond doubt!

Gaal is sneakily hoping that the reader will assume that these 'inconsistencies' were while one of them was in the USSR, as we were originally talking about.

He's decided to craftily move the goalposts.

There was a sighting of me earlier this morning. Maybe I am part of a doppelganger programme.

Thick as mince...

  • Per your own posting ,you seem to travel to many TAVERNS (part of your self proclaimed, " I have a life"), I posit that there are two LAVERICKS.
  • Pre pints and post pints, (there might be a third ... "oh last night tooooooo many pints")
  • JUST ONE OF SAID SIGHTINGS ABOVE CORRECT AND DOUBLE OSWALDS IDEA IS CORRECT.
  • IF H & L true, then open up the champagne !!!!!!
  • THANKS gaal

So in Gaal's world to "have a life" simply means drinking beer in a tavern. It's all a lot sadder than I thought.

Wouldn't you just love to have one. eh? A life that is, not a beer. After all, beer is the Devil's brew. Get caught drinking that and you may incite His wrath and cause another global flooding.

No worries, Gaal can be the new Noah, guiding the animals onto his ark two by two...two frogs, two giraffes, two beetles, two Oswalds...

Tea total. Sorry.

Try another smear.

Would Jesus approve of your smear tactics?

Two Oswalds, two Marguerites, ...

--Tommy :sun

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Some people sighted LHO in 1963!!!

There you then.

You've proved H&L beyond doubt!

Gaal is sneakily hoping that the reader will assume that these 'inconsistencies' were while one of them was in the USSR, as we were originally talking about.

He's decided to craftily move the goalposts.

There was a sighting of me earlier this morning. Maybe I am part of a doppelganger programme.

Thick as mince...

  • Per your own posting ,you seem to travel to many TAVERNS (part of your self proclaimed, " I have a life"), I posit that there are two LAVERICKS.
  • Pre pints and post pints, (there might be a third ... "oh last night tooooooo many pints")
  • JUST ONE OF SAID SIGHTINGS ABOVE CORRECT AND DOUBLE OSWALDS IDEA IS CORRECT.
  • IF H & L true, then open up the champagne !!!!!!
  • THANKS gaal

So in Gaal's world to "have a life" simply means drinking beer in a tavern. It's all a lot sadder than I thought.

Wouldn't you just love to have one. eh? A life that is, not a beer. After all, beer is the Devil's brew. Get caught drinking that and you may incite His wrath and cause another global flooding.

No worries, Gaal can be the new Noah, guiding the animals onto his ark two by two...two frogs, two giraffes, two beetles, two Oswalds...

Tea total. Sorry.

Try another smear.

Would Jesus approve of your smear tactics?

PLEASE NOTE YOU POSTED ON THIS FORUM ABOUT GOING OUT TO PUBs / TAVERNS or some such and YOU connected it to the phrase , "I have a life".

You seem to be a musician , link below to help you in your ,"gigs". Jesus would never approve of drinking to excess !!! .,gaal

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http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=571684 (read full page // estimate 22 beers a band member and thus Tavern owner 'owed' money)

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NEVER ADDRESSED POST CHILDREN AS SPIES.

I talked to NameBase founder Daniel Brandt who the Finders tried to recruit. He did a many year investigation of the Finders group. CIA to use children as spies ,confirmatory Harvey and Lee. ,gaal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NameBase

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 04:41 PM

link to info below >> http://www.covertbookreport.com/spy-kids-the-russians-the-finders-and-the-family/

"It seems quite possible that nearly every country in the world may have some similar operation going on – with the intent of penetrating various government agencies. But things get weirder and weirder. Here’s a piece I wrote on “The Finders” in 2010:

Did The Finders Create a “Bourne Identity”?

Suppose you have a thirty-year cult, run by a southern eccentric with ties to the Central Intelligence Agency.

Suppose that cult raised children in austere surroundings combined with advanced education, perhaps to be used by said intelligence agency?

Suppose that cult was investigated for child abuse/neglect but the investigation was shut down for “National Security” reasons?

Sound like something out of a movie? Young “Jason Bournes” being created, nurtured and trained for future use? Well, something like that seems to have happened in “The Finders” cult.

The unraveling of “The Finders” case brought to the forefront many long-rumored stories about possible child trafficking as well as those about children being trained for use as spies and assassins.

In February 1987, a tip to the police led to the arrest of two “well dressed men” in a park in Tallahassee Florida. The men appeared to be “supervising” a group of six disheveled and hungry children. The men, who were based out of Washington D.C., were charged with child abuse. The D.C. police raided a house and warehouse, where they found many items that implicated “The Finders” cult in international intrigue and what appears to be ritual sacrifice of animals. The children were temporarily moved to an undisclosed location under armed guard due to threats to authorities.

This all sounds like typical internet rumor-mongering, except the story was carried by The New York Times and U.S. News And World Report.

The smoking gun was a report by U.S. Customs agent Ramon Martinez. Customs was called in to investigate a possible link to child pornography or child trafficking, and the Martinez document is shocking. There were indeed photos of many children, some naked. This in itself is not surprising due to the commune-type upbringing of The Finders. There were also photos of members in white robes, with the children, in what appears to be ritual sacrifice of goats. The Finders claim it was merely typical harvesting of animals on a farm, but the children actively participated in the disembowelment.

At the time of the arrest, despite the “well dressed” appearance of the adult men, the children seemed to have no knowledge of such things as electricity and hot running water. In a strange twist, they seemed highly educated. Details of what was found in the warehouse and the customs report can be read in this report by Dave McGowan.

Other items seized from the finders included Telex messages about obtaining children from Hong Kong, international money transfers, and this, from the Martinez report:

“Further inspection of the premises disclosed numerous files relating to activities of the organization in different parts of the world. Locations I observed are as follows: London, Germany, the Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa, Costa Rica, and ‘Europe.’ There was also a file identified as ‘Palestinian.’ Other files were identified by member name or ‘project’ name. The projects appearing to be operated for commercial purposes under front names for the Finders. There was one file entitled ‘Pentagon Break-In,’ and others referring to members operating in foreign countries”.

Everything in this case points to a possible prosecution for child abuse, but the investigation was shut down for National Security reasons.

Marion Pettie was the leader of “The Finders” cult. Described as a tall, well-built southern gentleman, Pettie maintained a large property in Culpepper Virginia and the locations that were raided in Washington D.C.

He has admitted that his wife had worked for the CIA and that his son flew for the CIA airline “Air America”, long known for it’s drug-trafficking exploits in Southeast Asia.

In an excellent interview in the Washington “City Paper”, Pettie described his role as “Game Caller”. He instructed his followers to live by the day, hour, minute. He would send them on “projects”, often to foreign countries. All the Finders men dressed like FBI agents, in conservative dark suits. Not exactly your typical hippie-cult attire.

At the dawn of the computer era, Pettie recruited a talented computer engineer who trained members of The Finders in computer technology. They went on to run a project for – you guessed it, The CIA.

Pettie openly admits that he ran a safe house for members of intelligence agencies, from The Office of Navel Intelligence, to the OSS, to any spook that needed a place to hang out. He claims he would “study them”.

The children that were found in the park with the “well-dressed men” were returned to their mothers and the cult. The investigation was dropped.

The most recent information I could research on The Finders was a blog post by a guy named Michael Phillips. Phillips claims to have met The Finders in San Francisco in the 1970’s. Phillips respects the group, and thinks they had innovative ideas. Several Finders-type comments followed his blog post, one saying that Pettie and other founding members were now dead, and thanked him for the kind words. Phillips had just proof-read a 550-page manuscript of a book on the finders by member Robert “Tobe” Terrell.

Another questionable report on a New Zealand Indymedia blog said that The Finders had relocated to Taiwan. I don’t know about that.

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We will never know the true story of “The Finders”, what they were training the children for, or the source of their wealth. The Washington “City Paper” article says that some former members were suing Pettie and the remaining estate of the cult.

The articles I researched are split into at least three categories. The right-wing writers focus on Satanic ritual abuse. The left side suspects the children may have been programed to be spies or assassins. People like the blogger Phillips suggest they were just elaborate role-playing adventurers.

It is well known that intelligence agencies run programs resembling The Finders, such as the Kool-Aid massacres in Jonestown. It’s easy to pull a Sirhan-Sirhan or Lee Harvey Oswald out of these groups when they need one.

But let’s close with this chilling conclusion to the report of U.S. Customs officer Martinez:

“On April 2, 1987, I arrived at MPD at approximately 9:00 a.m. Detective Bradley was not available. I spoke to a third party who was willing to discuss the case with me on a strictly ‘off the record’ basis.

“I was advised that all the passport data had been turned over to the State Department for their investigation. The State Department in turn, advised the MPD that all travel and use of the passports by the holders of the passports was within the law and no action would be taken. This included travel to Moscow, North Korea, and North Vietnam from the late 1950s to mid 1970s.

“The individual further advised me of circumstances which indicated that the investigation into the activity of the Finders had become a CIA internal matter. The MPD report has been classified SECRET and was not available for review. I was advised that the FBI had withdrawn from the investigation several weeks prior and that the FBI Foreign Counter Intelligence Division had directed MPD not to advise the FBI Washington Field Office of anything that had transpired.

“No further information will be available. No further action will be taken.” "

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UPDATE:

The spy aged EIGHT: How American forces recruited a young boy to plant a chip on his stepfather – an Al Qaeda target in Yemen – so they could kill him in a drone strikeNew allegations claim that an 8-year-old Yemeni boy who was abandoned by his biological family was then roped back into their clutches

The boy’s biological father works for the Yemeni Republican Guard, which helps U.S. forces, and they asked have an al Qaeda operative located

That operative had been added to the U.S. ‘kill list’

The Republican Guard knew that one of their officer’s children had been taken in by that target, Adnan al-Qadhi, so they called the biological father and asked him to have his son place the chip on the surrogate father

The boy complied and days later, Qadhi was killed in a drone strike

By Daily Mail Reporter

PUBLISHED: 18:21 EST, 15 August 2013 | UPDATED: 09:10 EST, 16 August 2013

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PLEASE NOTE YOU POSTED ON THIS FORUM ABOUT GOING OUT TO PUBs / TAVERNS or some such and YOU connected it to the phrase , "I have a life".

You seem to be a musician , link below to help you in your ,"gigs". Jesus would never approve of dinking to excess !!! .,gaal

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http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=571684 (read full page // estimate 22 beers a band member and thus Tavern owner 'owed' money)

Gaal has read an article that shows that the fictitious Blues Band once drank more than they earned. So, logic dictates that if you are in a band then you obviously drink to excess. All bands. All musicians.

I know Steven, this new fangled pop music is all the devil's work. So is writing plays. In fact anything that requires personal expression or heartfelt creativity should be abolished forthwith.

Guns and God. That's all we need!

This is the kind of brain-dead logic that leads to accepting without question the H&L nonsense.

Hale Bopp, can you hear me? You missed one!

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Breaker Breaker! Come in Hale Bopp, can ya read me, there feller? Over! We have a sitchi--yation here, Big Bopper. Sure could use your 'ssistence. Feller here claims to be a muse-ician and don't touch the hard stuff. You read me, there, good buddy? Don't make no sense. FakeNews.Com shows that cain't be right. FakeNews.com sez muse-icians are the devils vocal chords and they all drink more'n they earn.

Hale Bopp? Come in Hale Bopp. I'm losing ya there. Come in, ya hear me, Bopper?

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From Armstrong, via the hardlylee.nut website

"Banister and David Ferrie (who knew LEE Oswald from the Civil Air Patrol in 1955"

Okay. Simple -- the Oswald who was in the CAP was the big husky LEE.

So who the hell is this wimpy looking guy - the SHORTEST in the group...??!!!

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From Armstrong, via the hardlylee.nut website

"Banister and David Ferrie (who knew LEE Oswald from the Civil Air Patrol in 1955"

Okay. Simple -- the Oswald who was in the CAP was the big husky LEE.

So who the hell is this wimpy looking guy - the SHORTEST in the group...??!!!

Ciravolo.jpg

Armstrong Harvey & Lee site >>>> link http://harveyandlee.net/Early/Early.html

"In September, 1954 Voebel entered the ninth grade at Beauregard. In October he witnessed a young man in a fight with Johnny and Mike Neymeyer. He helped to clean up the young man after the fight, thought he lost a tooth during the fight, and soon became friends with tall, husky LEE Oswald. A few days later Voebel was with Oswald on the steps of Beauregard when a young man named Robin Reilly punched LEE Oswald in the mouth, cutting his lip badly. Once again Voebel helped clean up LEE Oswald and their friendship began to develop. Soon after the fight Voebel took a photo of LEE Oswald sitting at his desk in Helen DuFour's English class at Beauregard, which he later sold to Life Magazine for $75. Seven months later Voebel attended a pre-high school conference with Oswald at Warren Easton HS. A month later, in June, 1955, Voebel and LEE Oswald began to attend Civil Air Patrol meetings."

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Lee looks slightly wimpy in above sited Life photo. Harvey to coin a phrase would be 'wimpier'. ,gaal

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From Armstrong, via the hardlylee.nut website

"Banister and David Ferrie (who knew LEE Oswald from the Civil Air Patrol in 1955"

Okay. Simple -- the Oswald who was in the CAP was the big husky LEE.

So who the hell is this wimpy looking guy - the SHORTEST in the group...??!!!

Ciravolo.jpg

Armstrong Harvey & Lee site >>>> link http://harveyandlee.net/Early/Early.html

"In September, 1954 Voebel entered the ninth grade at Beauregard. In October he witnessed a young man in a fight with Johnny and Mike Neymeyer. He helped to clean up the young man after the fight, thought he lost a tooth during the fight, and soon became friends with tall, husky LEE Oswald. A few days later Voebel was with Oswald on the steps of Beauregard when a young man named Robin Reilly punched LEE Oswald in the mouth, cutting his lip badly. Once again Voebel helped clean up LEE Oswald and their friendship began to develop. Soon after the fight Voebel took a photo of LEE Oswald sitting at his desk in Helen DuFour's English class at Beauregard, which he later sold to Life Magazine for $75. Seven months later Voebel attended a pre-high school conference with Oswald at Warren Easton HS. A month later, in June, 1955, Voebel and LEE Oswald began to attend Civil Air Patrol meetings."

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Lee looks slightly wimpy in above sited Life photo. Harvey to coin a phrase would be 'wimpier'. ,gaal

RAFLMAO!

You're a crack-up, Steve.

The ingeniousness of the doppelganger program never ceases to amaze!

Now they can grow and shrink and develop or lose muscle tone as needed!

Those boys in the lab were beyond genius... golly,... they were almost up there with Judy Baker in the "clever" stakes...!

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"RAFLMAO!

You're a crack-up, Steve.

The ingeniousness of the doppelganger program never ceases to amaze!

Now they can grow and shrink and develop or lose muscle tone as needed!

Those boys in the lab were beyond genius... golly,... they were almost up there with Judy Baker in the "clever" stakes...!" // PARKER POST

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My point is they seem the same to me. Photos "ABOUT" same time frame. LEE looks like LEE. gaal

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Initialism. (Internet slang) rolling on the floor laughing my ass (or arse) off; used to indicate great amusement.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ ROFLMAO (PARKER)

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I just was posting a response to PARKER post # 1575 this thread. // gaal

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