Sean Murphy Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) sample frame Robin, Thank you so much for uploading these higher-quality frames from Darnell. I certainly will not be renaming Prayer Man 'Prayer Woman', because the frame above puts the matter pretty much beyond doubt: This is Lee Oswald. The womanly appearance is due to the fact that a ) his sleeves are rolled up; b ) the eye is confusing the back of a woman's head with part of Lee's torso. Here's the woman in question's lower leg and foot: If you place your finger to the screen to cover where her head should be, the chief source of the 'Prayer Woman' illusion becomes apparent. This is Lee Oswald. Just look at the hairline. ** And speaking of hairlines, this frame tells us something else: Buell Wesley Frazier knew--knows--Lee is innocent. Someone urgently needs to show this image to him. Edited September 7, 2013 by Sean Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Prudhomme Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Darnell Zip file (110=Frames ) 5.9MB Taken from "JFK The movie (Blu-Ray) version" https://app.box.com/s/xqv9vkhpeztayt8pxizk Very nice slide show, Robin. I've studied it, or at least the portions with Prayer Man in them, for half an hour now, looking for clues that PM may be a woman. Could you point out to me what you found in these frames that raised this possibility? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Raymond Carroll Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) sample frame Robin, Thank you so much for uploading these higher-quality frames from Darnell. I certainly will not be renaming Prayer Man 'Prayer Woman', because the frame above puts the matter pretty much beyond doubt: This is Lee Oswald. The womanly appearance is due to the fact that a ) his sleeves are rolled up; b ) the eye is confusing the back of a woman's head with part of Lee's torso. Here's the woman in question's lower leg and foot: If you place your finger to the screen to cover where her head should be, the chief source of the 'Prayer Woman' illusion becomes apparent. This is Lee Oswald. Just look at the hairline. ** And speaking of hairlines, this frame tells us something else: Buell Wesley Frazier knew--knows--Lee is innocent. Someone urgently needs to show this image to him. Bravo Robin! Forget The Pub With No Beer This calls for the real Aussie Anthem, A song Seamus Heaney loved so well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDit0DyItsM To my compatriot Sean I say be careful about approaching Frazier. We need to do more homework before approaching Frazier. What was the story about his brother -in-law who was returning from Austin that day. Years ago I was looking at Frazier and got the feeling that his brother-in-law was in trouble with the law which might have been a pressure point. Has anyone ever looked into this? Edited September 8, 2013 by J. Raymond Carroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Larger FramesDarnell Gallery http://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=19&page=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 (edited) Click on images to view full size: Edited September 8, 2013 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Prudhomme Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Hello Robin Once again, I have studied the larger frames and found nothing indicating this person to be a woman. Is it something very obvious? Please share with us why you feel Prayer Man may be a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Darnell Zip file (110=Frames ) 5.9MB Taken from "JFK The movie (Blu-Ray) version" https://app.box.com/s/xqv9vkhpeztayt8pxizk Very nice slide show, Robin. I've studied it, or at least the portions with Prayer Man in them, for half an hour now, looking for clues that PM may be a woman. Could you point out to me what you found in these frames that raised this possibility? Thanks. I could be mistaken Robert It wouldn't be the first time. My conclusion was reached BEFORE i had time to go in and really have a good look at a Larger higher resolution version of the frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 I would say now, that it most probably is a man, as to it being Oswald, that is a different matter, and i will refer judgement on that issue until a later date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the Comments J. Raymond Sean Correct me if i am wrong, but i don't ever recall seeing Oswald in a shirt with his sleeves " Rolled Up " ? Edited September 8, 2013 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Prudhomme Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 I would say now, that it most probably is a man, as to it being Oswald, that is a different matter, and i will refer judgement on that issue until a later date What a shame they didn't have the high tech digital cameras that are available nowadays back in 1963. We could have enlarged this photo and counted the nose hairs on PM, if we so desired. As it is, I peer at these grainy photos until my eyes are red and sore, and I am still none the wiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Prudhomme Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Thanks for the Comments J. Raymond Sean Correct me if i am wrong, but i don't ever recall seeing Oswald in a shirt with his sleeves " Rolled Up " ? Excellent point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Prudhomme Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Here it is, Robert: Interesting, Sean. I'm at a bit of a loss to make the connection, although it is still early here, and I am on my first cup of coffee. Hello Sean I, too, find it odd that Dougherty would only hear one shot while on the 5th floor. If all three shots came from above him (albeit on the far kitty corner of the TSBD), one would think they would be equally audible. Is the connection with Dougherty using the stairs to descend to the 1st floor related to the fact Dougherty only testified to hearing a single shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 (edited) quote: Buell Wesley Frazier knew--knows--Lee is innocent. Sean Are you saying that there was a GIANT conspiracy of silence, from every TSBD employee seen in this frame that they were NEVER mention the fact that Oswald was actually standing in the Doorway entrance, as Baker entered the building. ? Edited September 8, 2013 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Richards Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Interesting thread. I seem to remember this being discussed briefly way back in the early days of Rich Delarosa's forum. I can't get all the pages to load so I apologize if this has been already discussed. Billy Lovelady had his sleeves rolled down that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Prudhomme Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 quote: Buell Wesley Frazier knew--knows--Lee is innocent. Sean Are you saying that there was a GIANT conspiracy of silence, from every TSBD employee seen in this frame that they were NEVER mention the fact that Oswald was actually standing in the Doorway entrance, as Baker entered the building. ? Hello Robin It does seem rather odd, though, that not only do none of the TSBD employees on those steps recall if PM was a TSBD employee, as well, it is as if PM was never there at all. If that is Frazier circled in the photo at the top of the steps, could we not just ask him who the person was in the corner? Perhaps we could start a fresh rumour holding that overzealous CT's, in their efforts to grant Oswald an alibi, altered the Darnell film by inserting the image of PM onto the TSBD steps. Bit of a reversal, n'est-ce pas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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