Steven Gaal Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Paris Attackers Funded by Pentagon Dinner Guest, and 5 Other ''Coincidences'' (CLICK LINK) Not only was Anwar Al Awlaki a senior leader in Al Qaeda, he also infamously spent dinner with top brass at the Pentagon shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks in Washington, New York, and over Pennsylvania. Edited January 12, 2015 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I am going to read all of this - thanks Douglass and Steven. I understand that Jim Fetzer thinks the Sandy Hook school shooting was somehow the work of Mossad. I don't know if this comment belongs on this thread, but I cannot bring myself to even look at Fetzer's theory. Has anyone reading this looked at that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 BBC Article Calling Charlie Hebdo Attack a False Flag Is a Fake Mediaite 11:40 ========================== gee who faked it up ??? golly NOW I BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT 100 no 110 % now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Two killings in Paris, one cause and a question---Which side are you on? The killings in Paris this week and the assassination of our Kurdish women comrades there two years ago have triggered a number of events and reactions and the pace of the news has not allowed us to analyze matters very deeply. We did do a post this week about what the killings have taught us to this point and we stand by anti-fascist and optimistic tone of that blog post. We continue to see in all that has happened this week and two years ago sharp contrasts between the liberation movement and the really revolutionary forces, on he one hand, and the fascist ISIS forces and the governments behind ISIS on the other hand. Let's look at what has been said recently in order to spell this out.Rojava's YPG (People's Defense Units) General Command strongly condemned the terrorist attack on the French magazine Charlie Hebdo on January 7th, expressing their sympathy with the victims' families and the people of France in a statement issued yesterday. The YPG underlined that “As the guardians of human values in a fight against Daesh (ISIS) terrorists in Kobani, we promise again to confront the vicious terrorists until the end when the justice is served." The statement also says that Kurdish people are conducting an extensive struggle against terrorist forces and that young Kurdish men and women are giving their lives every day for this cause and stresses that since there are experiencing these conditions, they can understand the grief of the people of France and share their sorrow. The YPG statement notes that "As the editor of Charlie Hebdo magazine, Stephane Charbonnier (Charb) had earlier mentioned in one of his writings that we, the People’s Defense Units, are not only defending our land but also conducting an honorable resilience against a dark force which is trampling on human values. While accepting no difference between people’s languages, religions, races or genders, we have been fighting against the enemies of humanity for over two years to defend equality, freedom, and democracy which are common human values." The YPG continued to say it has been clearly established once more that temporary and interest-considering policies cannot help the fight against terrorism to reach a positive result. Terrorism does not only target a particular geography or a nation, it is against all human values achieved through centuries of civilization, the YPG said, and argued that a rigorous struggle must be conducted against the dark forces not only in words, but in practice and action. The YPG statement also underlined that "To promote solidarity among the peoples, and strengthen the fight against terrorism, as Kurds, we will always stand alongside the people and the government of France. For our people in Europe and our friends, we will be enchanted if you stood with the people of France, in this regard we call on you to participate eagerly in the events that are due to take place tomorrow in France." The Democratic Kurdish Council in France (CDK-F) picked this up and called on Kurds to participate in the Charlie Hebdo commemorative and protest demonstrations even while mass mobilizations were underway to remember the assassinations of three Kurdish revolutionaries, Sakine Cansız, Fidan Doğan and Leyla Şaylemez in the Kurdistan Information Office in Paris two years ago. A CDK-F statement condemned the Charlie Hebdo massacre and offered its condolences to the French press. It emphasized that the mentality that slaughtered the 3 Kurdish women 2 years ago was the same one that perpetrated the Charlie Hebdo massacre. The statement continued “The mentality that massacred 12 innocent people in Paris on January 7 is the same mentality that has slaughtered Kurds in Kobanê, Sinjar, Mosul and Kirkuk. We therefore call on all Kurds and their friends to attend the rally tomorrow.” The CDK-F statement concluded by calling for a mass turnout at protest rallies in order to call the murderers to account, noting that these people were also the murderers of Kurds. “Let us attend tomorrow’s rallies en masse to show we stand alongside the French people in their sorrow,” the statement said. Enwer Muslim, the Prime Minister of the Kobanê Canton of West Kurdistan, Rojava, also condemned the bloody attack on Charlie Hebdo. He said on his Twitter account, “On behalf of Kobane Canton and its people we condemn the terror attacks in France and extend our condolences to French people.” It was acknowledged by all progressive and democratic Kurdish circles that the Charlie Hebdo shooting has raised among the Kurds a desire and will to manifest a joint stance against the Islamist groups among which the ISIS, notorious for beheadings and brutal killings, have been attacking the Kurds and minorities living in Kurdish territories, the Yazidi community in the first place, in West and South Kurdistan for a long time now. In contrast, the French state is yet to shed light on the murders of Sakine Cansız, Fidan Doğan and Leyla Şaylemez. Meanwhile, the ISIS (Daesh) gang group praised the gunmen behind the killings at Charlie Hebdo as "heroic jihadists." The ISIS statement was distributed on Twitter and jihadi forums on Thursday. "We start our bulletin with France. Heroic jihadists killed 12 journalists and wounded ten others working in the French magazine Charlie Hebdo, and that was support for our master (Prophet) Mohammad, may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him," it said. In Kobanê the ISIS gangs proved how devoted they are to Islam by hitting the Sheikh Sehan mosque there with mortar fire and practically destroying it as the YPG/YPJ (People's/Women's Defense Forces) fighters continued their historic resistance and advanced against the gangs. As they continue to suffer defeats the ISIS gangs targeted the mosque. An ISIS mortar shell went through the roof of the Sheikh Sehan mosque, exploding inside and rendering it unusable. All the windows have been broken and the mihrab and the qibla wall (the niche pointing in the direction of Mecca and its wall) were badly damaged. The glass section next to the niche where books written by Islamic scholars are kept was knocked to the floor. The mosque has been closed as it is not possible to repair it since clashes are continuing. Also, a deputy from Turkey’s reactionary ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) claimed that the deadly Charlie Hebdo attack was “staged like a movie scene.” Ali Şahin, a member of Parliament representing the southeastern Turkish province of Gaziantep, sent a series of tweets on Jan. 8 saying that the lack of traffic in the Paris street during the attack was “thought-provoking” and that it seemed “as if it was a movie scene.” He also claimed that the “God is great” rallying cry of the assailants was “a fabricated mise-en-page (layout),” apparently mixing the French word with “mise-en-scene.” “The moment that (the assailant) left the vehicle and fired on the policeman who was lying is also thought-provoking. The direction that the gun was pointed at and fired is not the policeman. It targets to the front of him. There is no blood. The camera stops filming after the terrorists shot the police and left,” Şahin also said. Finally, posters have been put up on municipal billboards in the Tatvan district of Bitlis province declaring that the Kouachi brothers who carried out the attack on the Charlie Hebdo office are martyrs. The posters, put up in the AKP-run municipality, declared “Greetings to the Kouachi brothers who took revenge for the prophet of Allah. May Allah accept your sacrifice. When you strike you call it democracy, when we take revenge you call it terrorism.” While it is not clear who put the posters up, the AKP municipality did not comment on the posters or remove them despite negative public reaction. On the people's side, then, we see mass sympathy and protests and a linking of the killings of our three women comrades two years ago to the killings carried out this week. We see on our side a support for religious tolerance and a reminder that our side fights the people who carried out the Paris killings every day and at great expense. The strong YPG/YPJ statement contains a promise that will be kept. On the other side we see mosques and other religious institutions destroyed, a crazy conspiracy theory, fascist attacks on Jews, a suspect fleeing through Turkey to Syria and posters supporting the killers. It's fair to ask---which side are you on? Posted by Urun Harvest at 6:57 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 In my view, the downfall of Western Civilization began on November 22, 1963. JFK adhered to the notion that the proper place for contest was the marketplace of ideas. He expressed confidence the ideas embodied in America were superior and confidence in testing those ideas against competing ideas. He embraced in principle the First Amendment. The First Amendment is the cornerstone of Western Civilization. It embodies all freedoms. Since that awful day in Dallas, U.S. leaders have resorted to force rather than persuasion to sell American interests. Force is much easier to deploy than persuasion. Deploying military force requires summoning popular support. Hitler and Goebbels understood this. The U.S. learned a lot from Nazi Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Jon: Again I want to associate myself with your remarks. JFK assassination was a super mega event in world history. Thoughtful people realize this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Controversial Issues in History ?? because true information is hard to get....GAAL==========OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO============== 46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can’t seem to find (CLICK LINK) Not surprisingly, much of the “where is the Muslim outrage” outrage is coming from… Fox News, as Media Matters notes. Fox’s own Monica Crowley, for example, said that Muslims “should be condemning” the attack and that she hadn’t “heard any condemnation… from any groups.” Fox News’ America’s Newsroom guest Steve Emerson complained, “you don’t see denunciations of radical Islam, by name, by mainstream Islamic groups.” Bob Beckel, a host of Fox News’ The Five host said Muslims were “being quiet” about the shooting and accused the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) of keeping “their mouth shut when things happen.” ==========OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO============== OH COME ON: ISIS Just So Happens to Hack CENTCOM Just as Obama Is Announcing New Cyber Security Legislation? So while they are calling for even more surveillance state spying on Americans, even more unconstitutional collection of our data, at the same time they admit they cannot protect anyone's data... so please give them more laws and power? ==========OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO============== Seems world leaders didn't "lead" #CharlieHebdo marchers in Paris but conducted photo op on empty, guarded street (CLICK LINK) Edited January 13, 2015 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I am going to read all of this - thanks Douglass and Steven. I understand that Jim Fetzer thinks the Sandy Hook school shooting was somehow the work of Mossad. I don't know if this comment belongs on this thread, but I cannot bring myself to even look at Fetzer's theory. Has anyone reading this looked at that? [double post] Don't feel bad, Paul. I can't even bring myself to look at Fetzer. BTW, didn't you know that all of the evils in this world are attributable to the CIA and the Mossad? Everyone else is just a victimized, sorely-aggrieved, peace-loving individual. You know, like those nice Islamic boys in Paris who were brutally murdered by the fascist police there a couple of days ago? And that charming man Vlad Putin in Russia, just letting all those Russian soldiers fight in Ukraine on their vacations? LOL --Tommy Edited January 13, 2015 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Thanks Thomas. The result of that type of thinking is to justify the negative connotation of conspiracy theorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Thanks Thomas. The result of that type of thinking is to justify the negative connotation of conspiracy theorist. Well, Paul, when thinking about the JFK assassination I'm a conspiracy theorist myself. But, unlike several members of this forum, I don't automatically blame the CIA for what took place in France recently, or what's taking place in eastern Ukraine, or ... --Tommy Edited January 13, 2015 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Thanks Thomas. The result of that type of thinking is to justify the negative connotation of conspiracy theorist. Well, Paul, when thinking about the JFK assassination I'm a conspiracy theorist myself. But, unlike several members of this forum, I don't automatically blame the CIA for what took place in France recently, or what's taking place in eastern Ukraine, or ... --Tommy Last weekend, Czech President Milos Zeman deplored the warmongering attitude of the Kiev regime, denouncing the CIA-installed Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk as “the prime minister of war.” mycatbirdseat JAN 7 =================================================== Part of The Best of Print in 2014 http://www.foreignaffairs.com/ Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault The Liberal Delusions That Provoked Putin By John J. Mearsheimer JOHN J. MEARSHEIMER is R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago. See more by this author From our September/October 2014 Issue A man takes a picture as he stands on a Soviet-style star re-touched with blue paint so that it resembles the Ukrainian flag, Moscow, August 20, 2014. (Maxim Shemetov / Courtesy Reuters) ---------------------------------------o According to the prevailing wisdom in the West, the Ukraine crisis can be blamed almost entirely on Russian aggression. Russian President Vladimir Putin, the argument goes, annexed Crimea out of a long-standing desire to resuscitate the Soviet empire, and he may eventually go after the rest of Ukraine, as well as other countries in eastern Europe. In this view, the ouster of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014 merely provided a pretext for Putin’s decision to order Russian forces to seize part of Ukraine. But this account is wrong: the United States and its European allies share most of the responsibility for the crisis. The taproot of the trouble is NATO enlargement, the central element of a larger strategy to move Ukraine out of Russia’s orbit and integrate it into the West. At the same time, the EU’s expansion eastward and the West’s backing of the pro-democracy movement in Ukraine -- beginning with the Orange Revolution in 2004 -- were critical elements, too. Since the mid-1990s, Russian leaders have adamantly opposed NATO enlargement, and in recent years, they have made it clear that they would not stand by while their strategically important neighbor turned into a Western bastion. For Putin, the illegal overthrow of Ukraine’s democratically elected and pro-Russian president -- which he rightly labeled a “coup” -- was the final straw. He responded by taking Crimea, a peninsula he feared would host a NATO naval base, and working to destabilize Ukraine until it abandoned its efforts to join the West. Putin’s pushback should have come as no surprise. After all, the West had been moving into Russia’s backyard and threatening its core strategic interests, a point Putin made emphatically and repeatedly. Elites in the United States and Europe have been blindsided by events only because they subscribe to a flawed view of international politics. They tend to believe that the logic of realism holds little relevance in the twenty-first century and that Europe can be kept whole and free on the basis of such liberal principles as the rule of law, economic interdependence, and democracy. =================================== Register for free to continue reading. Registered users get access to two free articles every month. Register Have an account? Log in. ================= @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Czech President: “Only Poorly Informed People” Don’t Know About Ukraine Coup By Eric Zuesse Global Research, January 05, 2015 ========================= The Czech Republic’s President Milos Zeman said, in an interview, in the January 3rd edition of Prague’s daily newspaper Pravo, that Czechs who think of the overthrow of Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovych, on 22 February 2014, as having been like Czechoslovakia’s authentically democratic “Velvet Revolution” are seeing it in a profoundly false light, because, (as Russian Television translated his statement into English) “Maidan was not a democratic revolution.” He said that this is the reason why Ukraine now is in a condition of “civil war,” in which the residents of the Donbass region in Ukraine’s southeast have broken away from the Ukrainian Government. He furthermore said that, “Judging by some of the statements of Prime Minister Yatsenyuk, I think that he is rather a prime minister of war because he does not want a peaceful solution, as recommended by the European Union (EU), but instead prefers to use force.” He added, by way of contrast to Yatsenyuk, the possibility that Ukraine’s President, Petro Poroshenko “might be a man of peace.” So: though Zeman held out no such hope regarding Yatsenyuk (who was Obama’s choice to lead Ukraine), he did for Poroshenko (who wasn’t Obama’s choice, but who became Ukraine’s President despite Obama’s having wanted Yatsenyuk’s sponsor, the hyper-aggressive Yulia Tymoshenko, to win the May 25thPresidential election, which was held only in Ukraine’s pro-coup northwest, but claimed to possess authority over the entire country). What this statement from Zeman indicates is that the European Union is trying to deal with Poroshenko, as the “good cop” in a “good cop, bad cop” routine, with Yatsenyuk playing the bad cop; and, so, the EU’s policies regarding Ukraine will depend upon what comes forth from Poroshenko, not at all upon what comes from the more clearly pro-war, anti-peace, Yatsenyuk. Furthermore, Zeman’s now publicly asserting that the overthrow of Yanukovych was a coup instead of having merely expressed the democratic intentions of most of the Maidan demonstrators, constitutes a sharp break away from U.S. President Barack Obama, who was behind that Ukrainian coup and who endorses its current leaders. Zeman isn’t yet going as far as Hungary’s President Viktor Orban did in his siding with Russia’s President Putin against America’s President Obama, but Zeman is indicating that, unless Obama will get Poroshenko to separate himself more clearly from Yatsenyuk (whom the U.S. State Department’s Victoria Nuland actually selected onFebruary 4th to become Ukraine’s Prime Minister in the coup just 18 days later, and so there can be no reasonable question that he is an Obama stooge), Czech policy regarding Ukraine will separate away from Obama’s war against Putin, and will join instead with Putin’s defense against Obama’s Ukrainian assault. Zeman is thus now in very much the same position that Orban had been prior to Orban’s clear decision recently to side with Putin: each is a head-of-state of a former Soviet satellite nation, which had waged a democratic revolution (in 1956 in Hungary, and in 1968 in Czechoslovakia) against the Soviet communist tyranny. He is saying to his own countrymen, that the tyrant now is the United States, under its President Barack Obama, and is not Russia, under its President Vladimir Putin. That’s a seismic shift, away from the U.S., because of the Ukrainian coup. Zeman was careful in his selection of which Czech news-medium would hold this interview with him. As wikipedia has noted, Pravo “is the only Czech national daily that is not owned by a foreign company.” The message that this fact sends to Czechs is that Zeman wanted to make clear that foreign influences, and any currying of favor with aristocrats (who own the ‘news’ media) in foreign countries, will not dictate his policies; only the Czech Republic’s own democratic values, and the behavior of Poroshenko, will. Zeman is indirectly telling Obama: Back off from me — you’re trying to get too close, and I won’t tolerate this. When Victoria Nuland said “F—k the EU,” she expressed Obama’s view, and all of them recognized the fact; some, like Orban and Zeman, don’t like to be treated this way; others, such as Germany’s Angela Merkel, seem not to mind. It’s also interesting that the first two EU nations to indicate that they might leave the EU for an alliance with Russia are both former Soviet satellite countries that revolted against the Soviet dictatorship; both are Eastern European, not Western European. Perhaps these leaders are more loathe to be controlled by tyrants than are the ones for whom the very idea of being subordinate to a tyrant is just a mere abstraction. (Merkel, however, seems simply to love whatever is conservative, even if it might happen to be nazi, as in Ukraine.) In any case, Ukraine’s coup has already produced one earthquake of historical magnitude, in Hungary, with Orban, and might soon do the same in the Czech Republic, with Zeman (which will depend upon Poroshenko reducing his war against Ukraine’s former east — which, in turn, will depend upon what instructions Obama provides to Poroshenko). The European Union could actually be in the process of breaking up; and not only because of the Ukrainian civil war, but also because Obama’s forcing each and every one of the EU nations to choose up sides in Obama’s Ukrainian war against Putin will have very different economic effects upon the various individual EU member-nations, some of which will lose far more business with Russia, from adhering to Obama’s sanctions against Russia, than will others that go along with those sanctions. U.S. President Obama is thus now pressing his pedal to the metal in order to achieve maximum destructive force against Russia, regardless of how many or what nations will follow him — perhaps even over the cliff, into a nuclear war. Obama is, in effect, now saying to each and every European head-of-state: Either you’re with us, or you’re against us. He’s George W. Bush II, only with regard to Russia, instead of to Iraq. It’s “choosing up sides” time, yet again; and, this time, Obama and Putin are both waiting, no doubt each somewhat nervously, to see what his team will consist of, and what the opposing team will turn out to be. However, there can be no reasonable doubt that Obama was the aggressor here. A coup followed by an ethnic cleansing is nazi, not at all democratic. That’s not opinion; it’s fact; and so it warrants to be noted in a news report, even though (if not especially because) others don’t report this fact, so that it’s still news, for long after it should have been reported as being “news.” Unfortunately, it remains as news, even today. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Czech President Milos Zeman and JOHN J. MEARSHEIMER the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago TWO THOMAS GRAVES ZERO = Czech President Milos Zeman stated those who dont know the Ukrainian coup was of Western origin are uninformed. ==== > Please Mr. Graves raise your hand. Edited January 13, 2015 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Mady Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Thomas What I see presented are facts that governments have successfully used false flag incidents to promote their agendas by influencing public opinion nefariously, what is new is that they have evolved from utilizing false flags to using drills pervaded as being real events. Since governments control news medias, governments control the nature of information, virtually the only information broadcast is created by them. We really have no organized system of checks and balances to determine what is now real and what is being created with intentions. What has been presented is evidence of fraud in the news, are these cracks in the egg or just coincidences? Can you identify one Drill pervaded in the news as a real event? I posted LAX, did you watch as the wounded TSA agent was being brought to the ambulance for emergency aid and was is in fact a dummy or mannequin? If the news media lied about this drill being a real event what else are they lying about? Where does it end? Edited January 13, 2015 by Robert Mady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 http://www.activistpost.com/2015/01/paris-attackers-funded-by-pentagon.html Interesting commentary on the Paris event and what preceded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Mady Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) The Boston Marathon Bombing, their poster child was the man in the wheel chair with both his legs supposedly severed in the blast being rushed to the aid center. This image was horrific when first viewed, but upon critical analysis there are problems with this being real. 1) When one femoral artery is severed a person can bleed out in a matter of a minute or two, they certainly will loose consciousness within a minute. 2) Man in wheelchair had both legs severed, both femoral arteries severed, no blood, little sign of trauma, he was wide eyed and conscious. 3) Lack of blood, on victims hands or the hands of his rescuers. 4) Moving a person with extreme blood loss sitting up in a wheel chair seems to be a sure way to end the persons life. 5) Who would have had the materials and the presence of mind in the first few seconds after the blast to identify this victim and administer life saving aid? 6) What dolt is going to move a seriously injured person in a wheel chair? Look at other poster child of man walking directly toward the photographer looking like a crazed zombie, his cloths are torn, but shredded in perfectly straight lines. His skin underneath is unharmed, no bruises no cuts no burns no blood. Sorry I did not post images, you can find both of these if you take 1 minute to google search. Look at the blasts caught on camera, the blasts go up, it is nothing but dust, this is not the blast from high explosives this is the blast from simulated explosives used in drills, you can see military drills of this sort on youtube with the exact same type of explosions, same dust, same patterns. We are being presented drills as being real, is every event where someone murders others a drill, obviously not, but the real must be sorted from the drills to understand that there is an agenda being pressed and that agenda is more surveillance and more tyranny. Edited January 13, 2015 by Robert Mady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 http://spartacus-educational.com/spartacus-blogURL47.htm John Simkin on the History of Free Speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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