Altgens Photo

[Ray Mitcham]

Something just doesn't look right about the shoulder line to me. The upper part of the white shirt is cutting off the bottom left of Lovelady's jaw. It looks clearly pasted over, in my opinion.

Roger, this is similar to the lean that Lovelady is making. IMO

Ray,

You realize that Lovelady was standing next to the center handrail, don't you?

Here are two Wiegman frames, taken about 5 seconds apart. The one with the car was taken first. The one without the car was taken at the same time that Altgens 6 was taken.

Credit: Chris Davidson

It looks like Lovelady may have come down one step between the two frames, and is leaning forward in the second one.

--Tommy

Yep, Just that I didn't have a center rail available when i took the photo.

Ray,

What most newbies (not you) don't realize is that Altgens was standing down Elm Street at about a 60 degree angle from Wiegman's line of sight to Lovelady. That's why Lovelady appears to be hugging the left wall (and why Prayer Man isn't visible) in Altgens 6. But Lovelady wasn't hugging the left wall -- he was standing near the center handrail.

--Tommy

I agree, Tom, but didn't say he was hugging the left wall. I was trying to show the angle that Lovelady appeared to be hanging out at.

[Thomas Graves]

I agree, Tom, but didn't say he [Lovelady] was hugging the left wall. I was trying to show the angle that Lovelady appeared to be hanging out at.

I know you didn't Ray. You're not the newbie.

--Tommy

Edited September 29, 2015 by Thomas Graves