Sandy Larsen Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) First look at this still: That's the west end of the TSBD in the background. There is nothing but parking lot west of that. Okay, now look at this short video: Looking at the 2nd story of the TSBD, the southwest corner of it can be seen just to the left of the right-most traffic sign. HOWEVER, there appears to be something extending west of that on the bottom floor. There is a dark rectangular area that has within five whitish diamond shapes arranged the way they would be on dice. It looks like it has a flat roof over it. The left end of the "roof" looks like it is attached to another building-like structure. This is all supposed to be parking lot, as seen in the top photo. Please explain how my eyes are fooling me. Edited December 30, 2015 by Sandy Larsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Maybe this wider look of the TSBD will help.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sandy Larsen Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Ah! Turns out my eyes weren't deceiving me after all. As far as I can tell, that first-floor extension is now gone... at least on the west end of the building. Correct me if I'm wrong. So what I see in the top photo isn't the TSBD proper, but rather the extension. Thanks David! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) It's a grillework facade, most visible in the "Three Tramps" photo series. Still there in Dealey today. Edited December 30, 2015 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 First look at this still: I hate to bring up old stuff, but I guess I for one am not up to speed on it, so would appreciate some brief comment. I note in this still that JFK's coat is considerably bunched, and someone drew a red box around it. This photo would be only seconds before the shooting. Cliff Varnell, you're the person to ask. What's up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 First look at this still: I hate to bring up old stuff, but I guess I for one am not up to speed on it, so would appreciate some brief comment. I note in this still that JFK's coat is considerably bunched, and someone drew a red box around it. This photo would be only seconds before the shooting. Cliff Varnell, you're the person to ask. What's up with that? Ron, check out JFK's visible shirt collar. The jacket collar rode in a normal position, the lower margin of the collar at C6/C7, just above the base of the neck. According to all LNers and a whole lot of CTs JFK was shot in the back base of the neck, or slightly below. According to this scenario multiple inches of shirt and jacket were bunched up entirely above this in-shoot without pushing upon the jacket collar. Flat-out impossible. Obvious, ain't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Ron, check out JFK's visible shirt collar. The jacket collar rode in a normal position, the lower margin of the collar at C6/C7, just above the base of the neck. According to all LNers and a whole lot of CTs JFK was shot in the back base of the neck, or slightly below. According to this scenario multiple inches of shirt and jacket were bunched up entirely above this in-shoot without pushing upon the jacket collar. Flat-out impossible. Obvious, ain't it? Okay, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 According to all LNers and a whole lot of CTs JFK was shot in the back base of the neck, or slightly below. Really? A lot of CTers believe JFK was shot higher than he really was? That's very surprising. Can you give some examples? Either famous ones or ones on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) According to all LNers and a whole lot of CTs JFK was shot in the back base of the neck, or slightly below. Really? A lot of CTers believe JFK was shot higher than he really was? That's very surprising. Can you give some examples? Either famous ones or ones on this forum. Dr. Cyril Wecht Dr. David Mantik Dr. Josiah Thompson Roger Feinman Pat Speer Stuart Wexler Martin Hay John Hunt Jim DiEugenio seems to think they have an argument, apparently, given his hostility toward the clothing evidence. The only way I can explain this is "incompetent research methods," pure and simple. Edited January 1, 2016 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 According to all LNers and a whole lot of CTs JFK was shot in the back base of the neck, or slightly below. Really? A lot of CTers believe JFK was shot higher than he really was? That's very surprising. Can you give some examples? Either famous ones or ones on this forum. Dr. Cyril Wecht Dr. David Mantik Dr. Josiah Thompson Roger Feinman Pat Speer Stuart Wexler Martin Hay John Hunt Jim DiEugenio seems to think they have an argument, apparently, given his hostility toward the clothing evidence. The only way I can explain this is "incompetent research methods," pure and simple. Thanks for the list, Cliff. Maybe they buy into the bunched-up jacket argument. Because if they don't buy that, then it should be obvious that the bullet hit the back around T3, well below the neck. I think some jackets might bunch up some. (Though not four inches.) But a shirt certainly wouldn't. Regardless, the videos and stills don't indicate substantial bunching up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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