Joe Bauer Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 On 10/15/2022 at 12:22 PM, Larry Hancock said: Joe, I'm afraid you are a bit off on both Kathy and Olsen - its a shame that some of the great research done over the years seems to fade into the past. I suggest you check out Ian Grigg's article for the actual details: http://massinjustice.org/Kennedy 4 22 Search Stripper Kathy K.pdf You are correct. Thanks for setting me straight. I needed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: You are correct. Thanks for setting me straight. I needed this. Just read Ian Grigg's article in full. I now know much more about Kay Olsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Kalin Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: Just read Ian Grigg's article in full. I now know much more about Kay Olsen. For more Griggs' stuff on Olsen -- Harry Neal Olsen -- and some fellow Dallas cops with problems: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=146538#relPageId=36 Documents at The Ian Griggs Archive: http://dealeyplazauk.com/research/collections/ian-griggs/documents/ NARA material on the Olsens -- Harry: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/7460780 Kay: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/7460779 Unfortunately none of the above sheds much light on what Olsen was up to on 11/22/63. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Thanks, some interesting docs I had not yet seen before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/15/2022 at 12:22 PM, Larry Hancock said: Joe, I'm afraid you are a bit off on both Kathy and Olsen - its a shame that some of the great research done over the years seems to fade into the past. I suggest you check out Ian Grigg's article for the actual details: http://massinjustice.org/Kennedy 4 22 Search Stripper Kathy K.pdf Larry this link isn't working for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Hancock Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Bob I just checked it again and it came up fine...but took quite a bit of time to do so. Perhaps the delay in loading was an issue for you. Not sure I can suggest anything in particular since its not on a site I have anything to do with. http://massinjustice.org/Kennedy 4 22 Search Stripper Kathy K.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Larry Hancock said: Bob I just checked it again and it came up fine...but took quite a bit of time to do so. Perhaps the delay in loading was an issue for you. Not sure I can suggest anything in particular since its not on a site I have anything to do with. http://massinjustice.org/Kennedy 4 22 Search Stripper Kathy K.pdf Thanks, it could be on my end. I guess others have had no problems, so it probably is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Kelly Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 The article in the March 2011 issue of The Dealey Plaza Echo "A Last Wild Ride for George de Mohrenschildt" by Nancy Wertz Weiford is very interesting. I didn't appreciate how strained the relationship between George and Jeannie D. had become, nor the depth of personal problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, Gene Kelly said: The article in the March 2011 issue of The Dealey Plaza Echo "A Last Wild Ride for George de Mohrenschildt" by Nancy Wertz Weiford is very interesting. I didn't appreciate how strained the relationship between George and Jeannie D. had become, nor the depth of personal problems. Jeanie D. seemed intriguing to me. Her parents, childhood and emigration to America background and dogged climbing the social ladder achievements. A strong willed, confident and practical woman. She several times mentioned her husband George's quirky sense of humor social behavior, which she knew some viewed as immature. Wearing a Hawaiian shirt to a formal function? Cracking off topic quips and jokes? Her and George's machete hacking trek through the Mexican and lower central American jungles was very odd though. Not a typical, practical vacation choice. And included in that silly safari was an odd stop over at a small Mexican airport to meet some official from Russia? Just a coincidental social call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 George... in business with Papa Doc... that pretty much says it all about the man's integrity. On him making a living in Texas, what does it take to make use of the oil depletion allowance ? A document signed by a "geologist" (well... one that has a degree that says he is...), and drill a hole in what ever stretch of land What does one need to abuse the oil depletion allowance ? 1 company that is making way too much profit (oil business is recommended) 1 company that has only drilled a hole. Next you "merge" profits/income from one to the other. Big profit - low tax... you only need "a guy" to sign the paperwork... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) Oops, off topic, sorry (I was playing my old Brel records... Les Adieux à l’Olympia...). But we will probably never now what was going on with Olsen and his dubious connections Edited October 30, 2022 by Jean Paul Ceulemans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Kalin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) On 10/30/2022 at 3:13 PM, Jean Paul Ceulemans said: But we will probably never now what was going on with Olsen and his dubious connections Certainly not if the approach fails to deviate from the traditional recitation of options, discussed in an old EF thread.https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/3497-dpd-officer-harry-olsen/ A. Ramshackle house B. Decedent's estate C. Den of iniquity Correct answer is D, none of the above. Olsen was utterly mendacious. So what else? For an entertaining "solution" verging on ludicrous this video featuring voluble Michael Brownlow & drowsy Professor Pulte is hard to top:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV6O3j0Llrg Edited November 4, 2022 by Michael Kalin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cummings Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) Look's like we know where Shane Stant got his inspiration in whacking Nancy Kerrigan. Edited November 4, 2022 by Paul Cummings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Kalin Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) Getting back on track, where did Harry go after leaving Kay's apartment and how did he get there? Best bet is cabdriver Scoggins drove him to Patton & 10th and back again. Nothing said by either Harry or Kay supports this idea, but Scoggins dropped two strong hints on the subject. The first was this startling disclosure to the Secret Service on 12/2/63: We proceeded north on Patton and possibly turned west on 10th. We cruised an area north of 10th street looking for the man I had seen, but we did not see him. When we left the intersection of 10th and Patton we did not go to Patton and Jefferson, but went in a northerly direction which would be opposite from the intersection of Patton and Jefferson streets. The second was rubbed into the WC during his 3/26/64 appearance: Mr. BELIN. Where were you driving your cab in the early part of the afternoon of November 22, 1963, if you remember? Mr. SCOGGINS. Well, I picked up a gentleman at Love Field at approximately 12:35, I would say, and I discharged him at 1 o'clock at 321 North Ewing. Mr. BELIN. Then where did you go? Mr. SCOGGINS. I went around by the Gentlemen's Club which I believe is 125 Patton. 3H323 Representative FORD. What does your record show about this last trip? Mr. SCOGGINS. Well, I picked him up at Love Field and carried him to 321 North Ewing, as well as I can remember now, that was the address. Representative FORD. And your record shows that? Mr. SCOGGINS. When I picked him up, the mileage started from, the mileage I let him out on the speedometer. When I picked him up we put the mileage down. We don't put the tenth down, and when we let him out we put the mileage and the time; and when we pick him up we put the mileage and the time, and the destination where we start and where we let him off, and the amount the fare was. Representative FORD. And your last entry shows what for that day? Mr. SCOGGINS. I don't know what the last entry was. Up until then that was the one where I let the man off at. It was an apartment building. Of course, l don't have the apartment number, anything like that. The guy says, "I want to go to 321 North Ewing," and that is where I take him. It is an apartment. Of course now, if somebody calls in for a cab at a certain address, if it is an apartment, they have to give their apartment number so we could find it. 3H338 Representative FORD. How far was this last destination to the point of 10th and Patton? Mr. SCOGGINS. It was less than a mile, about a half mile or maybe--well, let's see, it was closer to a mile, I would say. Representative FORD. Was there any particular reason why you went to the corner of 10th and Patton? Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes. I belong to that club there, and I was going around there to get me a coca cola that I could have gotten anywhere else, but I know a lot of the guys. Representative FORD. What is the club called? Mr. SCOGGINS. It is a gentleman's club, a domino parlor where we play dominos. Representative FORD. It is at what address? Mr. SCOGGINS. 123 or 125 South Patton. Mr. BELIN. About where is it in relation to East 10th and Patton, how far away, a block, two blocks? Mr. SCOGGINS. It is not a block. It is just about, I would say, just--if it was measured it would be a little over a half block from where I was parked at to the place, you see. 3H339 The first startles because the purpose of the pursuit was to find a fugitive who "came west on 10th Street ... and proceeded south on Patton on the east side of the street." Scoggins drove the wrong way! Why he said anything at all about the cab's route to the Secret Service is puzzling. He dummied up to each of DPD, FBI & WC on this head, providing information so vague as to be meaningless. The second places him at Kay's residence where he picked up Olsen & drove him to the murder site, afterward driving north from the site back to the same residence, seven-tenths of a mile distant, with the same passenger. Edited November 12, 2022 by Michael Kalin distance correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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