James DiEugenio Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Talk about CYA. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-claims-declassify-jfk-assassination-records-biden-nara-2023-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 4 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: Talk about CYA. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-claims-declassify-jfk-assassination-records-biden-nara-2023-7 I agree. I do not believe Trump will open up the JFK Records, and the Biden snuff job is fact and fait accompli. That leaves RFK Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted July 9, 2023 Author Share Posted July 9, 2023 I am surprised he is even bringing this up. If what he told Napolitano and Stone is accurate, what difference does it make if he disclosed it then or in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said: I am surprised he is even bringing this up. If what he told Napolitano and Stone is accurate, what difference does it make if he disclosed it then or in the future? Unfortunately, Trump is not only a transactional character, but erratic and inconsistent, and untruthful. If Trump is the hope to open up the JFK Records, I am not holding my breath. We know Biden has done the snuff job on the JFK Records, so he is out. Biden has assumed the role of a puppet-dictator. That leaves RFK Jr., a man with a terrific intellect, and a troubled yet productive life. But due to his history and world views, I believe RFK Jr. will open up the JFK Records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 In the past week, Donald Trump has now vowed to, "obliterate the Deep State," and to release the JFK records, if re-elected. My question. Why doesn't Trump tell us now about the "horrible" stuff that prompted him to block the release of the JFK records in 2017? If the truth is important, why does he have to wait until 2025 to finally spill the beans? It reminds me of Trump's 2016 debate with Jeb Bush, when he said, "When I'm President, the American people are going to find out who really destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 17 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: I am surprised he is even bringing this up. If what he told Napolitano and Stone is accurate, what difference does it make if he disclosed it then or in the future? JD, a little OT, but worth reading.... https://themessenger.com/opinion/populism-may-be-driving-rfk-jr-toward-the-white-house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Trump opening up the JFK files? Just another dangling of candy he thinks might win him some votes. Would he deliver? Just reported on several internet news sites is an interview of a former Pennsylvania Mob boss. He says he had to deal with Trump and Trump screwed him. Atlantic City Casino stuff. He trashes Trump. A man you could not trust at all. When the Mob says you're a POS...well.... At least America knows Trump dealt with the American Mafia is his business dealings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share Posted July 10, 2023 I just wonder if Bobby 's interview for Oliver in JFK Revisited had anything to do with this. The most moving interview we did was with him. When Oliver asked him if he thought his uncle's assassination was related to his father's. He said there were many parts of his father's case that were unexplored and needed to be opened and he said that because of that the possibility existed that they were connected and the same forces were involved. He choked up a bit at this. You could tell he was thinking that America was stolen. A couple of nights before, Oliver invited me to dinner at his house with his family and with Bobby and his wife. During the dinner, I don't recall how this came up, but Oliver said something like, everything would have been different if JFK and RFK had lived. If anything, that was an understatement. But I just wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) I too wonder what would have come about in our country if JFK had lived and been re-elected in 1964? And the same with Bobby in 1968. I don't think the average American was even halfway aware of the true extent of special interest power battles going on in this country between those interests and JFK and RFK after JFK was elected in 1960. Power battles of unprecedented intensity, yet never presented as such in the MSM. Kept behind the scenes in that way. Of the top 12 power groups and individuals in this country ( who up until 1963 really ran things behind the scenes it seems) JFK and Bobby were considered the greatest threats to their power, wealth and control that they had ever encountered. The military old guard. The MIC which had their way to make tens of billions of dollars every year. Our intelligence agencies. Hoover. LBJ. WASP old wealth and banking set. The wealthiest men on Earth...Texas Oil. Organized crime which had grown to unfathomable power, wealth and influence. One third our citizenry which was rabidly segregation minded and hated JFK for his more liberal stances on civil rights equality for blacks. Hot headed Cubans who felt JFK had betrayed them in the BOP. If JFK had not been removed...those adversaries would have probably found JFK more of a threat to their interests in his second term than his first! JFK was going to implement his adversarial policies with a fuller commitment than he did in his first term. He wouldn't have to hold back for re-election reasons. This group of JFK hating adversaries ( which when combined was huge ) would probably have become even more desperate and aggressive in fighting JFK and RFK over their efforts to not only keep them in check, but to even dissipate their monopolistic power which Eisenhower had warned the nation about in his farewell speech. Describing this Military, Industrial and Congressional complex which had grown to possess unwarranted unelected power and influence that threatened our very democracy. JFK and RFK did not realize the true depths of seriously minded physical danger they were in just during JFK's first term alone. Imo anyways. All those highest power groups who felt threatened by JFK and RFK played for keeps. If JFK had survived and been re-elected and continued to confront them as he did in his first term...he and RFK both would have had to hunker down with unprecedented security the likes of which even they would have a hard time accepting. Edited July 11, 2023 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share Posted July 10, 2023 As John Newman told me: "Jim, by the end of 1962, everybody hated Kennedy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: As John Newman told me: "Jim, by the end of 1962, everybody hated Kennedy." Everybody that had interests that JFK threatened. That left half the country that was admiring of him and falling in love with Jackie Kennedy. The most beautiful and glamourous first lady in American history...by far! Jackie was what...only 34 years old in 1963? Compared to the other and much older first ladies in the 20th century ... Edith Wilson, Lou Henry Hoover, Eleanor Roosevelt, Bess Truman, Mamie Eisenhower ... Jackie was a Venus. Beautiful, super well educated, classy and stylish to boot. The entire world had become infatuated and enamored with her. Billions of people! Edited July 11, 2023 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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