October 1963 Cable Noting LHO's Visit to Russian Embassy

[Benjamin Cole]

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10067-10413.pdf

See page 5 (paper page 7). 

Really, the CIA was faking cables to itself about LHO's visit to the Russian Embassy in October? 

Seems a bit of a stretch. 

Edited December 12, 2023 by Benjamin Cole

[James DiEugenio]

This report is written after the fact.

And as you can see, it relies in part on the Mystery Man photo.

And they ask for a picture of Oswald, which did not get there before the assassination.

 

[Benjamin Cole]

6 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

This report is written after the fact.

And as you can see, it relies in part on the Mystery Man photo.

And they ask for a picture of Oswald, which did not get there before the assassination.

 

Yes, the report is written later, but references the early October 1963 cable sent regarding LHO's visit to the MC Russian embassy. I have seen that October cable but it would take time to find it online. 

It is possible that the Australian women bus riders lied about seeing LHO on the bus, and the MC hotel workers lied about LHO staying at their  hotel, and the CIA was faking cables itself in early October about LHO's visit to the Russian embassy, and that the three KGB officers lied about meeting the real LHO, and that the Russians were sending fake cables to themselves about LHO back in the 1963. 

But really...and what is the point? LHO was in MC, likely at the behest of the CIA, and was being shadowed by the either the CIA and KGB or both, and was impersonated while there, by one or possibly both agencies. LHO may have been given a ride out of Mexico by car or plane. 

Yes, there is no surviving photo of LHO in MC. I don't know why. Perhaps the CIA, in the early days after the JFKA, destroyed everything they could regarding his mission there.  Maybe the cameras and operators outside the embassy were not perfect. We do not know, for example, out of every 100 people to enter the Russian Embassy how many were not photographed. 

The whole point of sending LHO to MC was to establish an LHO-Russia link. What would be the point of not sending the real LHO? 

 

 

[Sandy Larsen]

22 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

The whole point of sending LHO to MC was to establish an LHO-Russia link. What would be the point of not sending the real LHO?

 

There was no need to have Oswald is Mexico City. The advantage of not having him there is that the CIA could create a story of their choosing, about Oswald, Cuba, and Russia without having to ask Oswald to do anything which he might become suspicious of.

And in fact, that is exactly what the CIA did. For which we have great evidence.

People are perplexed by the Mexico City mysteries. But once you figure them out, the whole thing is very easy to understand and everything starts falling in place.

 

[Benjamin Cole]

1 hour ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

There was no need to have Oswald is Mexico City. The advantage of not having him there is that the CIA could create a story of their choosing, about Oswald, Cuba, and Russia without having to ask Oswald to do anything which he might become suspicious of.

And in fact, that is exactly what the CIA did. For which we have great evidence.

People are perplexed by the Mexico City mysteries. But once you figure them out, the whole thing is very easy to understand and everything starts falling in place.

 

My latest understanding is that Larry Hancock believes LHO by late 1963 had become an independent actor, and visited MC as he did wish to migrate to Cuba or Russia. 

I disagree with LH on this one, but the guy knows his stuff. 

[James DiEugenio]

Ben:

The wholeHotel Del Comercio is a house of cards, they first could not find anything at all to place him there.  They had to go back and convince a maid he was there.  And the whole sign in register is a mess.

Greg Parker and David Josephs and Jerry Kroth have all undermined the two Australiam girls from just about every angle inlcuding having the wrong passport and being on the wrong bus.

If you find the cable, I would like to see it.  But its not that a guy named Oswald was not there, it is just that it is not the Oswald.  This is how PBS tricked everyone on Duran.

[Stu Wexler]

Ben. Consider the possibility that they do not have photos of Oswald because those photos show other people in his company that the intel community want out of the Oswald narrative.

[Benjamin Cole]

1 hour ago, Stu Wexler said:

Ben. Consider the possibility that they do not have photos of Oswald because those photos show other people in his company that the intel community want out of the Oswald narrative.

That is a possibility too.

Or LHO knew where the cameras were. A lot of people did, and there is a laughable photo somewhere of the US photographers near the Russian embassy--(Mexican nationals operated the cameras, evidently without much resolve)--in white suits but visible behind a venetian blind with a camera. Maybe LHO flipped the bird, or had a large face-hiding sombrero on. 

As you suggest, maybe the CIA conveniently considered LHO an operational asset, and thus they had the right to destroy evidence of the operation, which was not germane (they decided) to the JFKA. 

Fun side note: There are no surviving photos of LHO in MC. Some people say that proves he was not there. There are no photos of LHO outside the TSBD during the JFKA. And that proves he was in fact on the sidewalk. 

Or something like that.