The Zapruder Film and NPIC/Hawkeyeworks Mysteries

[Kevin Balch]

5 hours ago, Roger Odisio said:

I've answered this several times.  Have you read earlier posts?  Short answer: destruction was never a viable option.  The media and others knew that the Z film was important evidence.  There was an open bid for rights to the film Saturday morning.  Life won and said they were going to publish stills from the film in their magazine in a few days.  Most important, the officials  needed something they could claim was the original film. 

I was referring to the briefing boards made by Brugioni, not the film itself.

[Roger Odisio]

17 hours ago, Kevin Balch said:

I was referring to the briefing boards made by Brugioni, not the film itself.

Lundahl could have told Brugioni to destroy his boards that Sunday when a copy was returned to Brugioni after the briefings. Instead Lundahl told him to put them away in Brugioni's safe and don't let anyone see them.  Brugioni thought of himself as Lundahl's right hand man and he was to some extent.  Lundahl trusted Brugioni to follow his orders, which Brugioni did.  It's not clear to me how much Lundahl knew about the second set of boards, though it seems unlikely he was totally unaware of them.

Lundahl retired in 1973.  When the feds started sniffing around parts of the JFKA in 1975, the new regime ordered Brugioni to get rid of his boards when he mentioned he still had them.  He sent them to the CIA director, never to be seen again.

[Kevin Balch]

22 hours ago, Roger Odisio said:

Lundahl could have told Brugioni to destroy his boards that Sunday when a copy was returned to Brugioni after the briefings. Instead Lundahl told him to put them away in Brugioni's safe and don't let anyone see them.  Brugioni thought of himself as Lundahl's right hand man and he was to some extent.  Lundahl trusted Brugioni to follow his orders, which Brugioni did.  It's not clear to me how much Lundahl knew about the second set of boards, though it seems unlikely he was totally unaware of them.

Lundahl retired in 1973.  When the feds started sniffing around parts of the JFKA in 1975, the new regime ordered Brugioni to get rid of his boards when he mentioned he still had them.  He sent them to the CIA director, never to be seen again.

If Lundahl and McCone were not in on the plot, weren’t they shocked by the conclusion of multiple shooters from the briefing boards? Why would they decide to immediately cover up evidence of a conspiracy, particularly since the indications at that time was that a Cuban sympathizer who lived in the Soviet Union was the prime and only suspect? Did they raise alarm bells within the CIA and were told, “No worries, it was our guys”? I can understand withholding the conclusion pending confirmation which would have been responsible and understandable but that is not what is alleged here.

If they were in on the plot, would they risk having the film examined by Brugioni who might see evidence of multiple shooters? They had to know there would be a chance NPIC would be asked to examine photographic evidence of the assassination. Why wasn’t there a planned effort to seize control of any photographic evidence in Dealey plaza (dismissing the bullshit stories of Beverley Oliver and Gordon Arnold)?

[Jonathan Cohen]

1 hour ago, Kevin Balch said:

If Lundahl and McCone were not in on the plot, weren’t they shocked by the conclusion of multiple shooters from the briefing boards?

Careful, Kevin. You're making far too much sense for the alterationists on this thread :).

[Miles Massicotte]

Does Dino Brugioni being an expert in photographic analysis necessarily mean that his recollection of an event about 50 years after the fact is accurate? No one is doubting that Brugioni was a respected expert, but the elephant in the room here is that his recollections are being trusted far more than the average witness because of his resume. I submit that his credentials as an analyst are separate from the faculties of his memory.

[Sandy Larsen]

4 hours ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

5 hours ago, Kevin Balch said:

If Lundahl and McCone were not in on the plot, weren’t they shocked by the conclusion of multiple shooters from the briefing boards?

4 hours ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

Careful, Kevin. You're making far too much sense for the alterationists on this thread :).

 

Perhaps. But keep in mind that you're debating just one CTer... Roger Odisio. There are others like myself who think that Horne's Hawkeyeworks  theory is basically correct, but who think that the plotters built into their plan both a communist conspiracy and a lone gunman angle. (The Peter Dale Scott Phase-1 / Phase-2 theory.)

 

[Kevin Balch]

29 minutes ago, Miles Massicotte said:

Does Dino Brugioni being an expert in photographic analysis necessarily mean that his recollection of an event about 50 years after the fact is accurate? No one is doubting that Brugioni was a respected expert, but the elephant in the room here is that his recollections are being trusted far more than the average witness because of his resume. I submit that his credentials as an analyst are separate from the faculties of his memory.

My only question is the matter of whether the frames he saw were directly from the camera original and what detail might have been lost regarding the frames showing the misty cloud from the head shot. Of course, the shock of seeing it for the first time 50 years ago might have dulled the perception of the frames he was shown.

Notice he says nothing about the cloud going back or coming out of the back of the skull.

But he answers the questions with certainty and adds elaboration without prompting.

By contrast, Homer McMahon is hazy on some of the details and gets some details wrong such as when NPIC moved into the building where he did the Z-film work. The alterationists say he is feigning loss of cognition but they have provided no evidence to support this assertion.

[Kevin Balch]

8 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

Perhaps. But keep in mind that you're debating just one CTer... Roger Odisio. There are others like myself who think that Horne's Hawkeyeworks  theory is basically correct, but who think that the plotters built into their plan both a communist conspiracy and a lone gunman angle. (The Peter Dale Scott Phase-1 / Phase-2 theory.)

 

How do the implications of what you suggest with regard to alteration differ from Roger, Horne, etc.?

[Sandy Larsen]

1 hour ago, Kevin Balch said:

How do the implications of what you suggest with regard to alteration differ from Roger, Horne, etc.?

 

I'm not intimately familiar with the differences of opinion between us all.

Some CTers believe that the assassination plotters planned for Oswald to take the blame. Others believe that it was the U.S. government who made that decision.

What I believe is that the plotters made it appear that Oswald was paid by Cuba to assassinate Kennedy. This was done to set up a pretext for an American invasion of Cuba. But it had a backup plan... should LBJ choose not to invade Cuba, the plotters made it easy for him to blame Oswald alone and keep the Cuban conspiracy secret.

What the plotters did to make blaming Oswald alone easy, was to control the Best Evidence so that it looked like the work of a lone gunman. Controlling the Best Evidence meant controlling the autopsy and any films that gave good views of the gunshot wounds. The only film that fit that bill was the Zapruder film.

The autopsy and the Zapruder film needed to show shots only from the rear.

 

[Roger Odisio]

15 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

I'm not intimately familiar with the differences of opinion between us all.

Some CTers believe that the assassination plotters planned for Oswald to take the blame. Others believe that it was the U.S. government who made that decision.

What I believe is that the plotters made it appear that Oswald was paid by Cuba to assassinate Kennedy. This was done to set up a pretext for an American invasion of Cuba. But it had a backup plan... should LBJ choose not to invade Cuba, the plotters made it easy for him to blame Oswald alone and keep the Cuban conspiracy secret.

What the plotters did to make blaming Oswald alone easy, was to control the Best Evidence so that it looked like the work of a lone gunman. Controlling the Best Evidence meant controlling the autopsy and any films that gave good views of the gunshot wounds. The only film that fit that bill was the Zapruder film.

The autopsy and the Zapruder film needed to show shots only from the rear.

 

Sure, there were factions among the plotters who wanted to use the murder to go after the commies, Cuba, the SU.  But the question is, what was the plan on the morning of Nov 22?  The final plan.  The one in place before any shots were fired that gave the plotters the confidence to proceed. Killing the POTUS required a comprehensive and coherent plan to get away with the murder, blame someone else, and get the policy changes that motivated the idea in the first place.

The message from the WH Situation Room to the two planes loaded with top officials coming back to DC within a few hours after the murder proclaiming that Oswald did it alone is clear evidence about what that part of the plan was.  Oswald was murdered two days after the assassination so he couldn't defend himself. Quickly followed 5 days later by the establishing of the WC to frame him.

It's true, Oswald was a particularly malleable patsy who could be used in several scenarios.  Oswald as patsy didn't necessarily eliminate going after the commies.

But that was never going to happen.  There was no "if" about what LBJ would do.  As the new president he would have to implement any plan to take on Cuba/the SU.  He was never going to risk a war with them at the beginning of his administration. After lusting after the job for decades.  Either the other top planners knew that (likely) or he told them.  

The message from the WH Situation Room to the planes was intended to be the "official" explanation about what happened in Dallas to other officials, largely from the Kennedy administration.  The murder had been already solved; nothing to see here.  Getting at least the acquiescence of those officials was the first hurdle for the planners in the coverup.

 

 

[Kevin Balch]

22 hours ago, Roger Odisio said:

Sure, there were factions among the plotters who wanted to use the murder to go after the commies, Cuba, the SU.  But the question is, what was the plan on the morning of Nov 22?  The final plan.  The one in place before any shots were fired that gave the plotters the confidence to proceed. Killing the POTUS required a comprehensive and coherent plan to get away with the murder, blame someone else, and get the policy changes that motivated the idea in the first place.

The message from the WH Situation Room to the two planes loaded with top officials coming back to DC within a few hours after the murder proclaiming that Oswald did it alone is clear evidence about what that part of the plan was.  Oswald was murdered two days after the assassination so he couldn't defend himself. Quickly followed 5 days later by the establishing of the WC to frame him.

It's true, Oswald was a particularly malleable patsy who could be used in several scenarios.  Oswald as patsy didn't necessarily eliminate going after the commies.

But that was never going to happen.  There was no "if" about what LBJ would do.  As the new president he would have to implement any plan to take on Cuba/the SU.  He was never going to risk a war with them at the beginning of his administration. After lusting after the job for decades.  Either the other top planners knew that (likely) or he told them.  

The message from the WH Situation Room to the planes was intended to be the "official" explanation about what happened in Dallas to other officials, largely from the Kennedy administration.  The murder had been already solved; nothing to see here.  Getting at least the acquiescence of those officials was the first hurdle for the planners in the coverup.

 

 

The cabinet meeting in Japan was apparently an annual event. If the plot had to consider having a large number of cabinet members out of the way, this would be a severe constraint on the number of opportunities to schedule the assassination. Meanwhile, the most important cabinet official, Robert Kennedy was in Washington, along with Robert McNamara.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/learning-of-kennedys-death-while-in-flight/2013/11/21/6e6b03ea-52c9-11e3-a7f0-b790929232e1_story.html

How was the plotter’s need to have cabinet officials out of the way met in the Chicago, Miami and Tampa plots?

Or is the absence of several cabinet members a coincidence that has nothing to do with the assassination and retroactively interpreted as a “dot” to be connected?

Edited Sunday at 07:37 PM by Kevin Balch

[Denny Zartman]

1 hour ago, Kevin Balch said:

The cabinet meeting in Japan was apparently an annual event. If the plot had to consider having a large number of cabinet members out of the way, this would be a severe constraint on the number of opportunities to schedule the assassination. Meanwhile, the most important cabinet official, Robert Kennedy was in Washington, along with Robert McNamara.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/learning-of-kennedys-death-while-in-flight/2013/11/21/6e6b03ea-52c9-11e3-a7f0-b790929232e1_story.html

How was the plotter’s need to have cabinet officials out of the way met in the Chicago, Miami and Tampa plots?

Or is the absence of several cabinet members a coincidence that has nothing to do with the assassination and retroactively interpreted as a “dot” to be connected?

Good points.

[Keven Hofeling]

On 7/21/2024 at 12:44 PM, Tom Gram said:

Great point. This is probably the most unintentionally hilarious part of the O’Sullivan film. Horne goes on this whole rant about how the “most startling” thing he learned from Brugioni is that he remembered the plume of brain matter appearing in more than one frame. Horne concludes from this that “the film we have today is an altered film”. The O’Sullivan film cuts Brugioni’s interview when this comes up, right after Brugioni describes exactly what is seen in the extant Z-film.

DB: There was a chunk of body… of head … above his head. And uh, and then there was a uh, there was a uh, little mist or cloud around it. 

So instead of questioning Brugioni further on camera, Horne cuts the interview immediately after the above statement, goes into his ridiculous rant, then plays an audio clip from a Janney interview. Incredibly, Janney tells Brugioni straight up that the explosion is only visible in one frame, Z313. Based on the audio, it sounds like Janney only showed Brugioni Z313, and didn’t closely examine the subsequent frames with him. The only substantive thing Brugioni says is he thought the Z313 explosion went “3 or 4 feet” into the air. 

Here’s the funny part IMO. Later in the O’Sullivan film, images of panels III and IV of the NARA briefing boards are shown, and in panel IV, the plume of blood and brain matter is clearly visible for more than one frame. As you point out, the multi-frame plume is even visible in multi-generational digital copies of the Z-film. It surely would have been even more visible in a first generation copy that was was only 24 hours old. 

I might start a tally of debunked Horne claims about Brugioni. So far the only thing I have that isn’t completely worthless is Brugioni’s failure to recognize the NARA briefing boards as his own work, and even that is highly questionable. 

@Jeremy Bojczuk wrote:

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My favourite anomaly claim is this one: the plume of brain matter above JFK's head only appears in frame 313, which means that frames must have been removed! That claim has actually been made more than once on this very thread. Needless to say, if you look at frames 314 onwards, you'll see the plume of brain matter. It's visible even in poor-quality copies. This fact has been known and pointed out on this very forum for years, and people still repeat the claim. The only thing these people needed to do was look at the actual film! But they didn't bother. It makes me think that it isn't the Zapruder film that's missing some brain matter. The sheer moon-landings level of amateurishness when it comes to claims of alteration is appalling.

Mr. Bojczuk and I have been at odds over this before as demonstrated by his 2/20/2024 EdForum post in which, using the same tone of self-righteous indignation, he purported to school me on the topic, as follows:

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30150-the-logic-of-zapruder-film-alteration/?do=findComment&comment=528865

And before that, on 1/19/2024, assuming the same condescending demeanor, and alleging that the position that the pink halo appears only in Z-313 is the product of "newbies" who have failed to perform "basic research":

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30083-why-do-some-conspiracy-theorists-accept-the-x-rays-and-autopsy-photos-as-genuine/?do=findComment&comment=526382

My response to Mr. Bojczuk here will be the same as my responses to those two posts, but I must first preface it by pointing out that Mr. Bojczuk has in his 7/21/2024 post modified the terms of his argument from one that addresses it as "fine red mist suspended in the air" (aka the pink halo) to a "plume of brain matter" above President Kennedy's head. Mr. Bojczuk's efforts to modify the terminology of his argument notwithstanding, his renewed efforts are equally erroneous, if not more so.

Mr. Bojczuk's position that the pink halo that appears in Zapruder frame 313 is also present in Z-314 through Z-316 is demonstrably false, as we see as follows (and it is demonstrably equally false that a "plume of brain matter" is visible in these frames):

ROBERT GRODEN COPY OF ZAPRUDER FILM  (BELIEVED TO BE FIRST GENERATION COPY)

1995 MPI "IMAGES OF AN ASSASSINATION" FIRST GENERATION COPY OF ZAPRUDER FILM

WILKINSON/WHITEHEAD 6K SCANS OF FORENSIC VERSION OF ZAPRUDER FILM

Clearly, the pink halo (or pink cloud) appears exclusively in Z-frame 313 for 1/18th of one second. Granted, there are indications of the remnants of the pink cloud in frames 314-316, but these are virtually imperceptible and cannot be said to be the pink halo as it appears in Z-313. The fundamental significance of the observation that the pink cloud itself appears only in Z-313 is that 1/18th of one second is a supernaturally short time for the cloud to exist, and indicates that frames have been removed, and the nearly imperceptible remnants of the cloud in frames 314-316 in reality do not detract from the hypothesis that frames have been removed, but support it, because they demonstrate that the pink cloud dissipates at an artificially rapid rate.

The following head shot sequence, at normal speed, from the 1995 MPI "Images of an Assassination" first generation copy of the Zapruder film emphasizes, highlights and underscores the unnaturally rapid dissipation of the pink halo, showing that it would have been imperceptible in real time on the ground in Dealey Plaza; which is highly significant when considered in the context of the eyewitness testimony about the head explosion, especially that of Marilyn Willis, as we shall see below:

 

The method of the madness of critics and lone nutter advocates such as Mr. Bojczuk, Mr. Gram, and Mr. Cohen is to advocate that we remove events from their natural context, and consider them in isolation, confined to the altered evidence itself, which devolves the discussion of same to an exercise of circular reasoning, and reliance upon the altered evidence itself as corroboration for the very same altered evidence, thereby excluding from consideration both the expert and eyewitness testimony which falsifies the altered evidence. It is the stuff of pseudoscience, which in the case of the headshot sequence of the Zapruder film asks that we decline to consider an extraordinary amount of expert reports and eyewitness testimony that there are irreconcilable discrepancies between the head wound depicted by the Zapruder film and what was actually seen and reported by scores of lay and expert witnesses; and in the case of the evidence of CIA NPIC and Hawkeyeworks tampering with the Zapruder film, asks that we dismiss significant evidence of alteration on the basis of trivial discrepancies (which are unsurprising, given the time elapsed between the events and the testimony).

The context that Mr. Bojczuk asks that we ignore with regard to the headshot sequence of the extant "original" Zapruder film is the expert and laywitness testimony, as well as an enormous number of expert medical reports, which indicate that the blowout wound was on the right side of the back (occipital-parietal) of President Kennedy's head, and not a cantaloupe sized cavernous hole in JFK's forehead as is depicted in the following stills of the Zapruder film (from the 1995 MPI "Images of an Assassination" first generation copy of the extant "original" Zapruder film with minor emphasis), which none of the Dealey Plaza, Parkland Hospital or Bethesda autopsy witnesses reported, which is contradicted by the autopsy photographs, and is the basis of the mathematical proof @Sandy Larsen has referred to in this thread. Moreover, Mr. Bojczuk expects us to ignore the testimony of multiple expert and lay witnesses that the blood, brain and skull blasted from the back of President Kennedy's head was ejected rearward and impacted those behind and on the left of the Presidential limousine, and he goes further by claiming that the extant Zapruder film depicts none of that whatsoever simply because the shutter speed of Abraham Zapruder's camera was too slow to capture any of that imagery:

 

The context to which I refer is provided by the following testimony of professional Secret Service agents and police officers, Dealey Plaza lay witnesses, and witnesses of the camera-original film (Dino Brugioni and Erwin Schwartz):

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"...BLOOD, BRAIN MATTER, AND BONE FRAGMENTS EXPLODED FROM THE BACK OF THE PRESIDENT'S HEAD. THE PRESIDENT'S BLOOD, PARTS OF HIS SKULL, BITS OF HIS BRAIN WERE SPLATTERED ALL OVER ME -- ON MY FACE, MY CLOTHES, IN MY HAIR..."

Secret Service Agent Clint Hill (in his 2012 book "Mrs. Kennedy and Me: An Intimate Memoir").
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"...I HAD BRAIN MATTER ALL OVER MY WINDSHIELD AND LEFT ARM, THAT'S HOW CLOSE WE WERE TO IT ... IT WAS THE RIGHT REAR PART OF HIS HEAD ... BECAUSE THAT'S THE PART I SAW BLOW OUT. I SAW HAIR COME OUT, THE PIECES BLOW OUT, THEN THE SKIN WENT BACK IN -- AN EXPLOSION IN AND OUT..."

Secret Service Agent Samuel Kinney (3/5/1994 interview by Vince Palamara).

"...WHEN PRESIDENT KENNEDY STRAIGHTENED BACK UP IN THE CAR THE BULLET HIT HIM IN THE HEAD, THE ONE THAT KILLED HIM AND IT SEEMED LIKE HIS HEAD EXPLODED, AND I WAS SPLATTERED WITH BLOOD AND BRAIN, AND KIND OF A BLOODY WATER...."

Dallas Motorcycle Patrolman Bobby Hargis (4/8/1964 Warren Commission testimony).
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"...I CAN REMEMBER SEEING THE SIDE OF THE PRESIDENT'S EAR AND HEAD COME OFF. I REMEMBER A FLASH OF WHITE AND THE RED AND JUST BITS AND PIECES OF FLESH EXPLODING FROM THE PRESIDENT'S HEAD..."

Dealey Plaza witness Bill Newman interviewed about the JFK assassination -- 0:13-0:27 -- https://youtu.be/EEhlbAwI7Zg?t=13

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"...THE HEAD SHOT SEEMED TO COME FROM THE RIGHT FRONT. IT SEEMED TO STRIKE HIM HERE [gesturing to her upper right forehead, up high at the hairline], AND HIS HEAD WENT BACK, AND ALL OF THE BRAIN MATTER WENT OUT THE BACK OF THE HEAD. IT WAS LIKE A RED HALO, A RED CIRCLE, WITH BRIGHT MATTER IN THE MIDDLE OF IT - IT JUST WENT LIKE THAT...."

Dealey Plaza witness Marilyn Willis from 24:26-24:58 of TMWKK, Episode 1, at following link cued in advance for you https://youtu.be/BW98fHkbuD8?t=1466 ).

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"...Charles Brehm: 0:21 WHEN THE SECOND BULLET HIT, THERE WAS, THE HAIR SEEMED TO GO FLYING. IT WAS VERY DEFINITE THEN THAT HE WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD WITH THE SECOND BULLET, AND, UH, YES, I VERY DEFINITELY SAW THE EFFECT OF THE SECOND BULLET.

Mark Lane: 0:38 Did you see any particles of the President's skull fly when the bullet struck him in the head?

Charles Brehm: 0:46 I SAW A PIECE FLY OVER OH IN THE AREA OF THE CURB WHERE I WAS STANDING.

Mark Lane: 0:53 In which direction did that fly?

Charles Brehm: 0:56 IT SEEMED TO HAVE COME LEFT AND BACK...."

Dealey Plaza witness Charles Brehm interviewed about JFK assassination by Mark Lane for the 1967 documentary "Rush to Judgment": https://youtu.be/RsnHXywKIKs

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"...I SAW THE HEAD PRACTICALLY OPEN UP AND BLOOD AND MANY MORE THINGS, WHATEVER IT WAS, BRAINS, JUST CAME OUT OF HIS HEAD...."

Testimony of Dealey Plaza witness Abraham Zapruder -- who filmed the assassination -- at the Clay Shaw trial -- https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/zapruder_shaw2.htm
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"...AND THE NEXT THING THAT I REMEMBERED CLEARLY WAS THE SHOT THAT HIT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US, OR ALMOST DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US, THAT HIT HIM ON THE SIDE OF HIS FACE ... ABOVE THE EAR AND TO THE FRONT ... AND, WE COULD SEE HIS BRAINS COME OUT, YOU KNOW, HIS HEAD OPENING..."

Dealey Plaza witness, Marilyn Sitzman (Abraham Zapruder's secretary) interviewed in 1966 by Josiah Thompson for 'Six Seconds in Dallas' (1967).

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"...I also asked him if he saw the explosion of blood and brains out of the head. He replied that he did. I asked him if he noticed which direction the eruption went. He pointed back over his left shoulder. He said, "IT WENT THIS WAY." I said, "You mean it went to the left and rear?" He said, "YES." Bartholomew then asked him, "Are you sure that you didn't see the blood and brains going up and to the front?" Schwartz said, "NO; IT WAS TO THE LEFT AND REAR...."

Excerpt from interview of Erwin Schwartz -- Abraham Zapruder's business partner -- who accompanied Zapruder to develop the camera-original Zapruder film, and saw the camera-original projected more than a dozen times. Bloody Treason by Noel Twyman.

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"...Brugioni's most vivid recollection of the Zapruder film was "...OF JFK'S BRAINS FLYING THROUGH THE AIR." He did not use the term 'head explosion,' but rather referred to apparent exit debris seen on the film the night he viewed it. "...AND WHAT I'LL NEVER FORGET WAS -- I KNEW THAT HE HAD BEEN ASSASSINATED -- BUT WHEN WE ROLLED THE FILM AND I SAW A GOOD PORTION OF HIS HEAD FLYING THROUGH THE AIR, THAT SHOCKED ME, AND THAT SHOCKED EVERYBODY WHO WAS THERE..."

Excerpt from interview of Dino Brugioni -- Photoanalyst at the CIA's National Photographic Interpretation Center -- who viewed the camera-original Zapruder film the evening of 11/23/1963. Douglas Horne, Inside the Assassination Records Review Board" , 2009, Volume IV, Chapter 14, page 1329. 

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The white elephant in the room that Mr. Bojczuk and the intellectually lazy lone nutters don't want to talk about, of course, is the trapezoid shaped black patch with sharp edges that covers the occipital parietal wound on the right side of the back of President Kennedy's head where so many expert and lay Dealey Plaza witnesses saw the large avulsive blow out wound from which blood, brain and skull was ejected (as seen here in Z-317):

When I pointed out to Mr. Bojczuk the ridiculousness of the notion that instead of all of the blood colored biological debris described as being ejected rearward and leftward from the back of JFK's head all we are seeing instead is that D-Max black patch, and that given that we can see the bright red roses in the same footage, it is absurd to believe that Abraham Zapruder's camera simply couldn't capture ANY of that bloody damage, Bojczuk's retort left me incredulous...

Mr. Bojczuk wrote that he had no idea what I meant by the red roses example...

In conclusion, should Mr. Bojczuk wish to argue against the contextual information presented above, I will simply respond in advance with the evidence of JFK's rear blow out wound which has the greatest probative value and evidentiary weight out of all of the medical evidence -- the first day Admission Notes that were filed by Drs. Kemp Clark, Charles Carrico, Malcolm Perry, Charles Baxter, Robert McClelland and Marion Jenkins immediately after their efforts to resuscitate President Kennedy on November 22, 1963. None of these reports support the existence of the frontal head wound depicted by the fraudulent Zapruder film imagery either:

COMMISSION EXHIBIT NO. 392: APPENDIX VIII - MEDICAL REPORTS FROM DOCTORS AT PARKLAND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, DALLAS, TEXAS: https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/jfkinfo/app8.htm

Summary (By Dr. Kemp Clark)

The President arrived at the Emergency Room at 12:43 P. M., the 22nd of November, 1963. He was in the back seat of his limousine. Governor Connally of Texas was also in this car. The first physician to see the President was Dr. James Carrico, a Resident in General Surgery.

Dr. Carrico noted the President to have slow, agenal respiratory efforts. He could hear a heartbeat but found no pulse or blood pressure to be present. Two external wounds, one in the lower third of the anterior neck, the other in the occipital region of the skull, were noted. Through the head wound, blood and brain were extruding. Dr. Carrico inserted a cuffed endotracheal tube. While doing so, he noted a ragged wound of the trachea immediately below the larynx.

At this time, Dr. Malcolm Perry, Attending Surgeon, Dr. Charles Baxter, Attending Surgeon, and Dr. Ronald Jones, another Resident in General Surgery, arrived. Immediately thereafter, Dr. M. T. Jenkins, Director of the Department of Anesthesia, and Doctors Giesecke and Hunt, two other Staff Anesthesiologists, arrived. The endotracheal tube had been connected to a Bennett respirator to assist the President's breathing. An Anesthesia machine was substituted for this by Dr. Jenkins. Only 100% oxygen was administered.

A cutdown was performed in the right ankle, and a polyethylene catheter inserted in the vein. An infusion of lactated Ringer's solution was begun. Blood was drawn for type and crossmatch, but unmatched type "O" RH negative blood was immediately obtained and begun. Hydrocortisone 300 mgms was added to the intravenous fluids.

Dr. Robert McClelland, Attending Surgeon, arrived to help in the President's care. Doctors Perry, Baxter, and McClelland began a tracheostomy, as considerable quantities of blood were present from the President's oral pharynx. At this time, Dr. Paul Peters, Attending Urological Surgeon, and Dr. Kemp Clark, Director of Neurological Surgery arrived. Because of the lacerated trachea, anterior chest tubes were place in both pleural spaces. These were connected to sealed underwater drainage.

Neurological examination revealed the President's pupils to be widely dialted and fixed to light. His eyes were divergent, being deviated outward; a skew deviation from the horizontal was present. Not deep tendon reflexes or spontaneous movements were found.

There was a large wound in the right occipito-parietal region, from which profuse bleeding was occurring. 1500 cc. of blood were estimated on the drapes and floor of the Emergency Operating Room. There was considerable loss of scalp and bone tissue. Both cerebral and cerebellar tissue were extruding from the wound.

Further examination was not possible as cardiac arrest occurred at this point. Closed chest cardiac massage was begun by Dr. Clark. A pulse palpable in both the carotid and femoral arteries was obtained. Dr. Perry relieved on the cardiac massage while a cardiotachioscope was connected. Dr. Fouad Bashour, Attending Physician, arrived as this was being connected. There was electrical silence of the President's heart.

President Kennedy was pronounced dead at 1300 hours by Dr. Clark

Kemp Clark, M. D.
Director
Service of Neurological Surgery
KC:aa

cc to Dean's Office, Southwestern Medical School
cc to Medical Records, Parkland Memorial Hospital

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PARKLAND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL

ADMISSION NOTE

J. F. KENNEDY

DATE AND HOUR 11/22/63 1620 DOCTOR: Carrico

When patient entered Emergency room on ambulance carriage had slow agonal respiratory efforts and scant cardiac beats by auscultation. Two external wounds were noted. One small penetrating wound of ant. neck in lower 1/3. The other wound had avulsed the calvarium and shredded brain tissue present with profuse oozing. No pulse or blood pressure were present. Pupils were dilated and fixed. A cuffed endotracheal tube was inserted and through the laryngoscope a ragged wound of the trachea was seen immediately below the larynx. The tube was passed past the laceration and the cuff inflated. Respiration using the resp assistor on auto-matic were instituted. Concurrently an IV infusion of lactated Ringer solution was begun via catheter placed in right leg and blood was drawn for type and crossmatch. Type O Rh negative blood was obtained as well as hydrocortisone.

In view of tracheal injury and decreased BS an tracheostomy was performed by Dr. Perry and Bilat. chest tubes inserted. A 2^nd bld infusion was begun in left arm. In addition Dr. Jenkins began resp with anethesia machine, cardiac monitor, and stimulator attached. Solu cortef IV given (300mg), attempt to control slow oozing from cerebral and cerebellar tissue via packs instituted. Despite these measures as well as external cardiac massage, BP never returned and EKG evidence of cardiac activity was never obtained.

Charles J. Carrico M.D.

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PARKLAND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL

ADMISSION NOTE

J. F. KENNEDY

DATE AND HOUR 22 Nov 1963 DOCTOR: PERRY

Staff Note

At the time of initial examination, the pt. was noted as non-responsive. The eyes were deviated and the pupils were dilated. A considerable quantity of blood was noted on the patient, the carriage and the floor. A small wound was noted in the midline of the neck, in the lower third anteriorly. It was exuding blood slowly. A large wound of the right posterior cranium was noted, exposing severely lacerated brain. Brain tissue was noted in the blood at the head of the carriage.

Pulse or heartbeat were not detectable but slow spasmodic respiration was noted. An endotracheal tube was in place and respiration was being assisted. An intravenous infusion was being placed in the leg.

At this point I noted that respiration was ineffective and while additional venisections were done to administer fluids and blood, a tracheostomy was effected. A right lateral injury to the trachea was noted. The tracheostomy tube was put in place and the cuff inflated and respiration assisted. Closed chest cardiac massage was instituted after placement of sealed drainage chest tubes, but without benefit. Electrocardiographic evaluation revealed that no detectable electrical activity existed in the heart. Resuscitation attempts were abandoned after the team of physicians determined that the patient had expired.

Malcolm O. Perry, M.D.
1630 hr 22 Nov 1963

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PARKLAND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL

ADMISSION NOTE

DATE AND HOUR NOV 22, 1963 DOCTOR: BAXTER

Note of Attendance to President Kennedy.

I was contacted at approx 12:40 that the President was on the way to the emergency room having been shot. On arrival there, I found an endotracheal tube in place with assisted respirations, a left chest tube being inserted and cut downs going in one leg and in the left arm. The President had a wound in the mid-line of the neck. On first observation of the remaining wounds the rt temporal and occipital bones were missing and the brain was lying on the table, with .extensive lacerations and contusions. The pupils were fixed and deviated lateral and dilated. No pulse was detectable and respirations were (as noted) being supplied. A tracheotomy was performed by Dr. Perry and I and a chest tube inserted into the right chest (2^nd intercostal space anteriorally). Meanwhile, 2 pts of O neg blood were administered by pump without response. When all of these measures were complete, no heart beat could be detected. Close chest message was performed until a cardioscope could be attached which revealed no cardiac activity was obtained. Due to the excessive and irreparable brain damage which was lethal, no further attempt to resuscitate the heart was made.

Charles R. Baxter M.D.
Associate Prof of Surgery
Southwestern Medical School

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PARKLAND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL

ADMISSION NOTE

JOHN F. KENNEDY

DATE AND HOUR 22 Nov 1963 DOCTOR: [KEMP CLARK]

12:20pm to 13:00 hrs

Called by EOR while standing in (illegible) Laboratory at SWMS. Told that the President had been shot. I arrived at the EOR at 1220 - 1225 and .The President was bleeding profusely from the back of the head. There was a large (3 x 3cm) amount of cerebral tissue present on the cart. There was a smaller amount of cerebellar tissue present also.

A tracheostomy was being performed by Drs. Perry, Baxter and McClelland. Exam of the President showed that an endotracheal tube was in place and respiratory assistance was being given by Dr. Akins and Jenkins. The pupils were dilated, fixed to light and his eyes were deviated outward and the right one downward as as well .

The trach was completed and I adjusted the endotracheal tube a little bit. Blood was present in the oral pharynx. Suction was used to remove this. Levine Catheter was passed into the stomach at this time.

He was (illegible) that I (illegible) no carotid pulse. I immediately began closed chest massage. A pulse was obtained at the carotid and femoral pulse levels.

Dr. Perry then took over the cardiac massage so I could evaluate the head wound.

There was a large wound beginning in the right occiput extending into the parietal region. Much of the skull appeared gone at brief examination . The previously described lacerated brain was present.

By this time an EKG was hooked up. There was no electrical activity of the heart and no respiratory effort - He was pronounced dead at 1300 hrs by me.

W. Kemp Clark
22 Nov 1963
1615 hrs -

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PARKLAND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL

ADMISSION NOTE

DATE AND HOUR Nov. 22, 1963 4:45 P.M. DOCTOR: Robert N. McClelland

Statement Regarding Assassination of President Kennedy

At approximately 12:45 PM on the above date I was called from the second floor of Parkland Hospital and went immediately to the Emergency Operating Room. When I arrived President Kennedy was being attended by Drs Malcolm Perry, Charles Baxter, James Carrico, and Ronald Jones. The President was at the time comatose from a massive gunshot wound of the head with a fragment wound of the trachea. An endotracheal tube and assisted respiration was started immediately by Dr. Carrico on Duty in the EOR when the President arrived. Drs. Perry, Baxter, and I then performed a tracheotomy for respiratory distress and tracheal injury and Dr. Jones and Paul Peters inserted bilateral anterior chest tubes for pneumothoracis secondary to the tracheomediastinal injury. Simultaneously Dr. Jones had started 3 cut-downs giving blood and fluids immediately, In spite of this, at 12:55 he was pronounced dead by Dr. Kemp Clark the neurosurgeon and professor of neurosurgery who arrived immediately after I did. The cause of death was due to massive head and brain injury from a gunshot wound of the left temple. He was pronounced dead after external cardiac message failed and ECG activity was gone.

Robert N. McClelland M.D.
Asst. Prof. of Surgery
Southwestern Med.
School of Univ of Tex.
Dallas, Texas

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PARKLAND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL

ADMISSION NOTE

DATE AND HOUR Nov. 22, 1963 4:45 P.M. DOCTOR: BASHOUR

Statement Regarding Assassination of the President of the U.S.A., President Kennedy.

At 12:50 PM, we were called from the 1st floor of Parkland Hospital and told that President Kennedy was shot. Dr. D ?? and myself went to the emergency room of Parkland. Upon examination, the President had no pulsation, no heartbeat, no blood pressure. The oscilloscope showed a complete standstill. The president was declared dead at 12:55 P.M.

F. Bashour M.D.
Associate Professor of Cardiology
Southwestern Medical School
Dallas, Texas.

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THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS
SOUTHWESTERN MEDICAL SCHOOL
DALLAS

November 22, 1963
1630

To: Mr. C.J. Price, Administrator Parkland Memorial Hospital

From: M.T. Jenkins, M.D., Professor and Chairman Department of Anesthesiology

Subject: Statement concerning resusciative efforts for President John F. Kennedy

Upon receiving a stat alarm that this distinguished patient was being brought to the emergency room at Parkland Memorial Hospital, I dispatched Doctors A . H. Giesecke and Jackie H. Hunt with an anesthesia machine and resuscitative equipment to the major surgical emergency room area, and I ran down the stairs . On my arrival in the emergency operating room at approximately 1230 I found that Doctors Carrico and/or Delaney had begun resuscitative efforts by introducing an orotracheal tube, connecting it for controlled ventilation to a Bennett intermittent positive pressure breathing apparatus . Doctors Charles Baxter, Malcolm Perry, and Robert McClelland arrived at the same time and began a tracheostomy and started the insertion of a right chest tube, since there was also obvious tracheal and chest damage . Doctors Paul Peters and Kemp Clark arrived simultaneously and immediately thereafter assisted respectively with the insertion of the right chest tube and with manual closed chest cardiac compression to assure circulation.

For better control of artificial ventilation, I exchanged the intermittent positive pressure breathing apparatus for an anesthesia machine and continued artificial ventilation . Doctors Gene Akin and A . H. Giesecke assisted with the respiratory problems incident to changing from the orotracheal tube to a tracheostomy tube, and Doctors Hunt and Giesecke connected a cardioscope to determine cardiac activity.

During the progress of these activities, the emergency room cart was elevated at the feet in order to provide a Trendelenburg position, a venous cutdown was performed on the right saphenous vein, and additional fluids were begun in a vein in the left forearm while blood was ordered from the blood bank . All of these activities were completed by approximately 1245, at which time external cardiac massage was still being carried out effectively by Doctor Clark as judged by a palpable peripheral pulse. Despite these measures there was no electrocardiographic evidence of cardiac activity .

These described resuscitative activities were indicated as of first importance, and after they were carried out attention was turned to all other evidences of injury . There was a great laceration on the right side of the head (temporal and occipital), causing a great defect in the skull plate so that there was herniation and laceration of great areas of the brain, even to the extent that the cerebellum had protruded from the wound. There were also fragmented sections of brain on the drapes of the emergency room cart . With the institution of adequate cardiac compression, there was a great flow of blood from the cranial cavity, indicating that there was much vascular damage as well as brain tissue damage .

It is my personal feeling that all methods of resuscitation were instituted expeditiously and efficiently . However, this cranial and intracranial damage was of such magnitude as to cause the irreversible damage . President Kennedy was pronounced dead at 1300 .

Sincerely,
/s/ M. T. Jenkins
M. T. Jenkins, M.D .

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The summation is provided by Doug Horne, as follows:

 

On 7/21/2024 at 12:44 PM, Tom Gram said:

Great point. This is probably the most unintentionally hilarious part of the O’Sullivan film. Horne goes on this whole rant about how the “most startling” thing he learned from Brugioni is that he remembered the plume of brain matter appearing in more than one frame. Horne concludes from this that “the film we have today is an altered film”. The O’Sullivan film cuts Brugioni’s interview when this comes up, right after Brugioni describes exactly what is seen in the extant Z-film.

DB: There was a chunk of body… of head … above his head. And uh, and then there was a uh, there was a uh, little mist or cloud around it. 

Now here we have Mr. Gram, who seems to believe that Mr. Bojczuk's treatment of the pink cloud that appears only in Zapruder frame 313 in isolation of the entire context presented above is pure genius.

Mr. Gram next editorializes about the following excerpt from the 2014 "Zapruder Film Mystery"  by Shawn O'Sullivan using loaded words such as "unintentionally hilarious," and "rant," and states that Brugioni describes "exactly what is seen in the extant Z-film."

DB: There was a chunk of body… of head … above his head. And uh, and then there was a uh, there was a uh, little mist or cloud around it. 

I would ask readers to view the clip and assess for yourselves whether Mr. Gram's loaded terms and venomous derisive commentary seems appropriate, and then consider whether Brugioni is really describing exactly what is seen in the extant Zapruder film when it is Brugioni himself who is ultimately declaring that the biological debris blown out of JFK's head appeared differently to him in 1963 than what he was viewing in the extant film in 2013; and finally, in light of all of the above testimony recited about the blood, brain and skull blown out of JFK's head to the left and rear of the limo, whether or not Brugioni's description is in fact exactly what we are seeing in the extant Zapruder film?:

 

On 7/21/2024 at 12:44 PM, Tom Gram said:

So instead of questioning Brugioni further on camera, Horne cuts the interview immediately after the above statement, goes into his ridiculous rant, then plays an audio clip from a Janney interview. Incredibly, Janney tells Brugioni straight up that the explosion is only visible in one frame, Z313. Based on the audio, it sounds like Janney only showed Brugioni Z313, and didn’t closely examine the subsequent frames with him. The only substantive thing Brugioni says is he thought the Z313 explosion went “3 or 4 feet” into the air. 

I would ask Mr. Gram to explain the basis of what appears to me to be his assumptions about the involvement of Doug Horne in the editing of Shawn O'Sullivan's film, The Zapruder Film Mystery: What makes Gram so sure that it was Horne who made these editorial decisions? 

Secondly, while Mr. Gram writes that "Janney tells Brugioni straight up that the explosion is only visible in one frame, Z313," the following transcript of the exchange appears to me to be far less precise than Mr. Gram represents:

BRUGIONI: What I saw was more than that.

JANNEY: This is frame 313: So you saw more pink mist, going up, straight up?

BRUGIONI: I remember the scatter was high.

JANNEY: Yah.

BRUGIONI: You know, say, three or four feet from his head

JANNEY: Uh huh, up in the air?

BRUGIONI: Yeah.

JANNEY: Uh huh. This is the only frame on the whole Zapruder film you get to see...

BRUGIONI: No, there was more than that in the original...

JANNEY: So you're saying there was more than one frame for sure. How many frames do you think there would be?

BRUGIONI: I don't know. All I know is that we were shocked when we saw it.

JANNEY: Right. Right.

BRUGIONI: If you went out to the archives and asked for the Zapruder film, they claim that that's the true one?

JANNEY: That's the true one, right. The one, the frames that we just looked at. No? You're shaking your head. That's not the true one is it? Is that what you mean?

BRUGIONI: I say the one that I saw, his head, his, there was, way high off of his head.

JANNEY: Yeah. The debris.

BRUGIONI: I can't imagine that there would only be one frame.

JANNEY: Right.

BRUGIONI: What I saw was more than what you had there.

From the above it appears obvious to me that Janney was not saying, as Mr. Gram claims, that "Janney t[old] Brugioni straight up that the explosion is only visible in one frame, Z313," but that Janney was instead referencing the pink cloud that is in fact present only in frame 313 of the extant Zapruder film.

Furthermore, if Mr. Gram was familiar with the body of material on which he is opining, he would know that there is a very simple, straightforward, basis upon which we can be sure that Peter Janney wasn't just showing Brugioni frame Z-313 alone in isolation of the film. Besides it being extremely naive to just assume that Brugioni would have allowed such a scenario, we have video footage (which I have posted before in this thread) showing Doug Horne reviewing Z-313 with Brugioni in the context of the extant film as a moving picture, and Brugioni did not say anything like "Hey, Peter Janney only showed me the one slide, and I can now see that the explosion lasted more than one frame!" No, Dino Brugioni was not stupid as Mr. Gram seems to assume, and we see Dino reacting and commenting to Z-313 in motion completely consistent with all of the other materials presented by Peter Janney and Doug Horne:

Dino Brugioni Commenting on Z-313 and Z-317 -- Heretofore Unseen Footage From Doug Horne Interview

And of particular relevance to all of the above is the interest Brugioni displayed with regard to the black patch covering up the large avulsive wound on the back of JFK's head, which Brugioni said "trouble[d]" him.

 

On 7/21/2024 at 12:44 PM, Tom Gram said:

Here’s the funny part IMO. Later in the O’Sullivan film, images of panels III and IV of the NARA briefing boards are shown, and in panel IV, the plume of blood and brain matter is clearly visible for more than one frame. As you point out, the multi-frame plume is even visible in multi-generational digital copies of the Z-film. It surely would have been even more visible in a first generation copy that was was only 24 hours old.

The briefing board Mr. Gram is referring to (NPIC Zapruder Film Panel IV) is as follows:

 

And consistent with the above, as well as the following, Panel IV represents that the pink cloud is present exclusively in Z-313 (what is truly funny is that Mr. Gram accepts Mr. Bojczuk's representations on the matter as if they were tantamount to old time Gospel):

ROBERT GRODEN COPY OF ZAPRUDER FILM  (BELIEVED TO BE FIRST GENERATION COPY)

1995 MPI "IMAGES OF AN ASSASSINATION" FIRST GENERATION COPY OF ZAPRUDER FILM

WILKINSON/WHITEHEAD 6K SCANS OF FORENSIC VERSION OF ZAPRUDER FILM

1995 MPI "IMAGES OF AN ASSASSINATION" FIRST GENERATION COPY OF ZAPRUDER FILM

 

Edited 17 hours ago by Keven Hofeling

[Paul Bacon]

Beautiful job Keven.  The bottom line here is, did Dino Brugioni "mis-remember" what he says he saw.  He said that he was shocked and everyone gasped at the head shot(s).  You don't mis-remember what you've been shocked by.

The film was altered.

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[Denny Zartman]

@Keven Hofeling is a quality member of this forum. Good work here, Keven.