Matt Cloud Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 12 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: Jackson vs Warnke: Carter capped these by naming Paul Warnke as head of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency and chief weapons negotiator. As chief defense-policy adviser to McGovern’s 1972 campaign, Warnke had authored a plan to reduce the entire U.S. military by one-third. This appointment was too much for Scoop, and he decided to fight Warnke’s nomination despite the tradition of allowing a new president a honeymoon. Warnke won confirmation in the Senate but only by a vote of 58 to 40. This implied that Scoop would be able to muster the votes to block any arms-control treaty that did not meet his approval since ratification requires a two-thirds vote. "You're in over your head, Jimbo." A count by veteran observers on Capitol Hill indicated that Mr. Warnke would receive overwhelming approval if a vote were held today but that there would be significant criticism from Senators who felt the Carter Administration was not concerned enough about Soviet military strength. This concern was heightened by a widely circulated memorandum that included Mr. Warnke's well‐known views advocating arms‐control measures, including some effort to promote reciprocal unilateral gestures by the United States and the Soviet Union. The memorandum was prepared by a Washington‐based group, A Coalition for a Democratic Majority, which has advocated tougher positions toward the Russians. A co‐chairman, Ben Wattenberg, is a close adviser to Senator Henry‐M. Jackson, Democrat of Washington, one of those who has questioned Mr. Warnke's being named to the Administration. Josh Muravchik, an aide to Senator Daniel P. Moynihan, Democrat of New York, said today that he had formerly worked for the coalition, had helped draft the memorandum and had given it to about eight or nine people more than a month ago, before joining Mr. Moynihan's staff. Mr. Warnke, a former senior official in the Pentagon, is a partner in a Washington law firm headed by Clark M. Clifford, the former Defense Secretary. He is well known in Democratic political circles and does not face the kind of widespread opposition that forced Theodore C. Sorensen https://www.nytimes.com/1977/02/05/archives/approval-of-warnke-described-by-carter-as-a-crucial-step.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) More on Jackson vs Warnke: https://www.nytimes.com/1977/02/26/archives/warnke-controversy-reflects-wider-issues.html Finally, if you search long enough you will find the video of Jackson cross examining Warnke by going through every single defense system that Warnke opposed. If I recall, it was about nine of them. Edited July 31 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cloud Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 2 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: More on Jackson vs Warnke: https://www.nytimes.com/1977/02/26/archives/warnke-controversy-reflects-wider-issues.html "You're in over your head, Jimbo." A count by veteran observers on Capitol Hill indicated that Mr. Warnke would receive overwhelming approval if a vote were held today but that there would be significant criticism from Senators who felt the Carter Administration was not concerned enough about Soviet military strength. This concern was heightened by a widely circulated memorandum that included Mr. Warnke's well‐known views advocating arms‐control measures, including some effort to promote reciprocal unilateral gestures by the United States and the Soviet Union. The memorandum was prepared by a Washington‐based group, A Coalition for a Democratic Majority, which has advocated tougher positions toward the Russians. A co‐chairman, Ben Wattenberg, is a close adviser to Senator Henry‐M. Jackson, Democrat of Washington, one of those who has questioned Mr. Warnke's being named to the Administration. Josh Muravchik, an aide to Senator Daniel P. Moynihan, Democrat of New York, said today that he had formerly worked for the coalition, had helped draft the memorandum and had given it to about eight or nine people more than a month ago, before joining Mr. Moynihan's staff. Mr. Warnke, a former senior official in the Pentagon, is a partner in a Washington law firm headed by Clark M. Clifford, the former Defense Secretary. He is well known in Democratic political circles and does not face the kind of widespread opposition that forced Theodore C. Sorensen https://www.nytimes.com/1977/02/05/archives/approval-of-warnke-described-by-carter-as-a-crucial-step.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted July 31 Author Share Posted July 31 Matt, Insulting James DiEugenio, inaccurately, and insulting the mods is a violation of Education Forum policies. Infractions are cumulative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Balch Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 27 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: Kevin, You need to do some remedial reading on the history of Mary Pinchot Meyer's assassination, and the conflicting, convoluted CIA narratives about Angleton's confiscation of her diary. (See the references above.) Do you even read the comments and references posted in response to your comments here? As for Matt Cloud, perhaps he should start a separate Hegelian thread entitled, "Mary Pinchot Meyer's Diary and the Dialectical Rise of the Neocons Under Daniel Patrick Moynihan." Since you have read the references, what they say about what she knew about the assassination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cloud Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, W. Niederhut said: Matt, Insulting James DiEugenio, inaccurately, and insulting the mods is a violation of Education Forum policies. Infractions are cumulative. Here's one for you: You're a total xxxxwit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Morrow Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 6 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: Here is Part 3, it just went up. Its about Rumsfeld, Jackson and Strauss. https://substack.com/home/post/p-147174529?source=queue Sidenote: You mentioned journalist David Brinkley LBJ tried to have sex with Journalist David Brinkley’s wife Ann at LBJ Ranch QUOTE When David Brinkley and his wife were invited to visit the Johnsons at the ranch for a weekend, he was unable to attend, so she went alone. Mistake. LBJ kept trying to get her to go to bed with him. UNQUOTE [D. Jablow Herschman, Power Beyond Reason: The Mental Collapse of Lyndon Johnson, p. 146] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Balch Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, Robert Morrow said: Sidenote: You mentioned journalist David Brinkley LBJ tried to have sex with Journalist David Brinkley’s wife Ann at LBJ Ranch QUOTE When David Brinkley and his wife were invited to visit the Johnsons at the ranch for a weekend, he was unable to attend, so she went alone. Mistake. LBJ kept trying to get her to go to bed with him. UNQUOTE [D. Jablow Herschman, Power Beyond Reason: The Mental Collapse of Lyndon Johnson, p. 146] Gives a new dimension to the “Johnson” treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cloud Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, Kevin Balch said: Since you have read the references, what they say about what she knew about the assassination? An excellent and reasonable question. Somehow I think the preference however is to just to drop-names and page-numbers and say be on your way. BTW, and most importantly, you have been for the most part a fair-dealer here. I appreciate that. I'm afraid however certain topics and and certain officiating of such topics is seriously at risk, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted July 31 Author Share Posted July 31 3 minutes ago, Kevin Balch said: Since you have read the references, what they say about what she knew about the assassination? How much she knew is a mystery. She was, reportedly, quite angry about the Warren Commission cover up. Are you aware that Mary Meyer was the ex-wife of CIA Mockingbird propagandist, Cord Meyer, and socialized with the Angletons and other CIA big wheels? Her sister was married to the CIA's WaPo asset, Ben Bradlee. But let's get back to the DiEugenio essays. Mary Meyer had nothing significant to do with the subject of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Morrow Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kevin Balch said: Gives a new dimension to the “Johnson” treatment. Lyndon Johnson was ALWAYS ready to administer the "Johnson treatment." Robert Dallek: Lyndon Johnson “would bang the table and declare that he had more women by accident than Kennedy ever had on purpose” https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1998/04/three-new-revelations-about-lbj/377094/ QUOTE Johnson had "an unfillable hole in his ego," Moyers says. Feelings of emptiness spurred him to eat, drink, and smoke to excess. Sexual conquests also helped to fill the void. He was a competitive womanizer. When people mentioned Kennedy's many affairs, Johnson would bang the table and declare that he had more women by accident than Kennedy ever had on purpose. UNQUOTE Edited July 31 by Robert Morrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Morrow Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 6 hours ago, Matt Cloud said: Who the hell is Monika Wiesak? Monika Wiesak is an author and a huge fan of JFK. Amazon.com: America's Last President: What the World Lost When It Lost John F. Kennedy: 9798986556802: Wiesak, Monika: Books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 6 hours ago, Matt Cloud said: Who the hell is Monika Wiesak? You're not That well-read are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 30 minutes ago, Matt Cloud said: 32 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: Matt, Insulting James DiEugenio, inaccurately, and insulting the mods is a violation of Education Forum policies. Infractions are cumulative. Here's one for you: You're a total xxxxwit. Matt, you seem intelligent and knowledgeable. You know what you've done, intentionally. Insulting me, W, and member Jim, along with others over time. Your smart enough to have read the rules and know the suspension penalties double or more with admin/mod discretion. You seem to insult just about anyone you converse with, a bit adversarial. What is your purpose regarding the JFK assassination? Here's a few days to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Balch Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, W. Niederhut said: How much she knew is a mystery. She was, reportedly, quite angry about the Warren Commission cover up. Are you aware that Mary Meyer was the ex-wife of CIA Mockingbird propagandist, Cord Meyer, and socialized with the Angletons and other CIA big wheels? Her sister was married to the CIA's WaPo asset, Ben Bradlee. But let's get back to the DiEugenio essays. Mary Meyer had nothing significant to do with the subject of this thread. How much she knew is a mystery. But we’re sure she was killed for her knowledge of the assassination. OK.... Yes, I knew all that as well as Cord Meyer’s previous flirtation with the United World Federalists. Surprisingly, the book is in a local library, the same one that I borrowed Hit List from. I’m glad I didn’t spend money on that one. I’ll have to check it out. Edited July 31 by Kevin Balch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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