Nix Film

[Robin Unger]

Groden: Muchmore Frame.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

1 hour ago, Robin Unger said:

Officer Chaney can be seen coming up from behind in the McIntire photo. (Identification: Gary  Mack)

Chaney has 5 cars ahead of him here. But he did catch up to the lead car when the whole motorcade stopped on the on-ramp.

Notice in QM SSA's are looking at Hickey, holding his stinking AR15.

SSA Bennett is probly picking up the 4 or 5 casings.  

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

1 hour ago, Robin Unger said:

Groden: Muchmore Frame.

The windshield duznt yet have a "hole" in it (as can be seen), but the headshot & "hole" will arrive in a few frames.

Edited Wednesday at 10:08 PM by Marjan Rynkiewicz

[Robin Unger]

1 hour ago, Marjan Rynkiewicz said:

Chaney has 5 cars ahead of him here. But he did catch up to the lead car when the whole motorcade stopped on the on-ramp.

Yes i agree.

"On ramp to Stemmons freeway"

[Karl Kinaski]

The editors of all those Dealy plaza films were moving around bystanders like Lego bricks. 

picture comparison puzzle.

Find the difference and ask yourself which one is fake: The Bell-Frame (on the left)or the Muchmore Frames? (On the right.)

 

 Solution to the puzzle: Jean Hill and Mary Moorman are jumping all over Beverly Oliver and the Brehms while simultaneously changing their positions. All three frames are sold to you as unaltered. 

[Robin Unger]

10 hours ago, Karl Kinaski said:

The editors of all those Dealy plaza films were moving around bystanders like Lego bricks. 

picture comparison puzzle.

Find the difference and ask yourself which one is fake: The Bell-Frame (on the left)or the Muchmore Frames? (On the right.)

 

 Solution to the puzzle: Jean Hill and Mary Moorman are jumping all over Beverly Oliver and the Brehms while simultaneously changing their positions. All three frames are sold to you as unaltered. 

The Muchmore film segment was taken during the assassination.

The Bell film segment was taken after the assassination.

[Karl Kinaski]

@Robin

 I know. But there are only about 10 seconds between those frames, and neither Hill nor Moorman ever mentioned that they were running about ten meters to the east before sitting down for cover. In the Muchmore frame, Hill is to the right of Moorman, while in the Bell frame, it's the other way around... whereas the positions of the Brehms and Oliver remain the same.

[Chris Bristow]

On 10/3/2024 at 8:55 AM, Karl Kinaski said:

The editors of all those Dealy plaza films were moving around bystanders like Lego bricks. 

picture comparison puzzle.

Find the difference and ask yourself which one is fake: The Bell-Frame (on the left)or the Muchmore Frames? (On the right.)

 

 Solution to the puzzle: Jean Hill and Mary Moorman are jumping all over Beverly Oliver and the Brehms while simultaneously changing their positions. All three frames are sold to you as unaltered. 

After mapping out the lines of sight from Bell and Muchmore's positions,  to Moorman, Babushka and Brehm, some definitive conclusions can be drawn. Moorman and Hill did switch positions but they moved no more the 2 ft from their location in the Muchmore frame. Hill ended up sitting 2 ft west of Moorman's original standing location. The reason they appear under the witnesses on the steps in Muchmore and near Z's pedestal in the Bell film is all due of Bell's position relative to Muchmore's. Those backgrounds are exactly what we would expect to see if Moorman and Hill did not move more that 2 ft.
  Babushka Lady and Brehm did change position from Muchmore to Bell. They both apparently walked around 20 ft west. Although Brehm is seen standing in front of  Babushka Lady in Muchmore and Z, but is seated behind her in Bell after they walked 20 ft west. 
 The question is, could Brehm and Babushka move 20 ft in the time frame from Muchmore to Bell? Consider that Hargis is just coming to a stop in the Muchmore frame. But in the Bell frame he has already stopped the bike, dismounted, and ran about 40 ft across Elm. He also had to wait a second or two for LBJ and his SS car to pass by before crossing the street.  Then he traveled another 30 ft up to the lamppost on north Elm by the time we see him in the Bell film. If he had time for that, Brehm and Babushka could have easily walked 20 ft.
 Zapruder is seen in the Bell frame approx 15 ft away from the pedestal. But we know he did not stop filming till the limo entered the underpass 9 seconds after the headshot. That means the time frame from Muchmore's headshot frame and Bells frame can't be as little as 12 seconds because that only leaves 3 seconds for Z to climb down off the pedestal and walk 15 ft.
  Bell must have taken his finger off the trigger for several seconds in the blurred frames that occurred after the limo and before we see the 1st extremely smeared image of Hargis' bike.  It is likely that after Bell filmed the limo he had to make a quick decision about the next best thing to film and that is why he stopped the camera momentarily.     
      The 1st frame of Hargis' smeared bike seems over exposed. That does happen on the first frame after the trigger is depressed because the camera is not up to speed and the frame is open a bit longer.
  I think Hargis' movements alone prove that Bell had to have stopped filming for a several  seconds. Or maybe a few seconds of camera jiggle was removed from the Bell film.

[Robin Unger]

Bell GIF

We see Zapruder walking away from Sitzman as she turns to walk towards the pergola entrance.

We see Weigman going down on the grass to film the Hesters.

And we see Atkins holding his camera as he prepares to film the Newmans on the ground.

Edited yesterday at 10:09 AM by Robin Unger

[Robin Unger]