Thomas Graves Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Hi Robin, Looks to me as if nobody's being arrested in this picture, actually. I think the man in the suit who's standing in front of the policeman is holding a rifle (or shotgun?) pointed up towards the sky. If so, maybe it's the MC or one of the several other firearms which were reportedly found right after the assassination.... FWIW, Thomas Hello again, Robin I decided to take another "look" at the photo you posted, and now I see what I think you're referring to. I think the flesh-colored area inside the red box is profile of a person's face who is looking to our left. My intuition tells me that it's a child.......... FWIW, Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Hi Robin, Looks to me as if nobody's being arrested in this picture, actually. I think the man in the suit who's standing in front of the policeman is holding a rifle (or shotgun?) pointed up towards the sky. If so, maybe it's the MC or one of the several other firearms which were reportedly found right after the assassination.... FWIW, Thomas Hello again, Robin I decided to take another "look" at the photo you posted, and now I see what I think you're referring to. I think the flesh-colored area inside the red box is profile of a person's face who is looking to our left. My intuition tells me that it's a child.......... FWIW, Thomas I believe I can make a contribution here. "The Jim Murray photograph that shows the Rambler on Elm and a man strolling down the knoll toward the footpath was snapped 10 minutes after the shooting. I guess if we can lock in a time when the image in the parking lot was taken, then we might be able to determine if there is a chance that these cars are one in the same." The Robert Hughes Film which begins as the Motorcade turns onto Houston Street (and thus would begin at approximately 12:30), show some footage of the TSBD Parking Lot area. I do not know if the film is shot continuously, or if he turned off the camera after the motorcade passed by DP and then turned it back on when he shot the footage of the crowds proceeding towards the Plaza, my guess is the latter. But even so this info, might give you an appx. point of reference as far as when the Police officers are around the cars in the parking lot. (The Hughes Film UNEDITED Version from the Groden video is (I believe) exactly 1:30 seconds, the versions I have seen on the Internet have a few seconds of beginning and end footage cut out. Also the Adrian O'Hare, Rip Robertson individuals can be seen being filmed from behind in the Hughes Film after the motorcade sequence, unfortunately the TSBD Parking Lot footage is shot too far to the right to show the officers around the cars close to the fence, BUT IT DOES show the Rip Robertson/O'Hare individuals standing in the center of the parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 (edited) Lee Forman has kindly given me permission to post this photo which he aquired through E-Bay so that all may enjoy.Large Image: Click Here __________________________ It's interesting to compare the thin black guy walking across the grass towards Elm Street in the company of the two "suits" (Rip Robertson and John Adrian O'Hare?) in Lee Foreman's Cancellare photo (above) with the guy standing third from left in this photo taken by Jim Murray (which I found on Robin Unger's great website-- http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri4/ ): http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri4/Murray_knoll.jpg The same guy (I think) is visible in the background of another Murray photo, also from Robin's site: http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri4/LastScan_Murray.jpg If he's not Rip's and O'Hare's companion, then maybe he's the guy who can be seen running across Elm Street towards the knoll after two three-wheeled motorcycle cops have passed about 40-45 seconds into this version of the Robert Hughes film: http://www.jfk-online.com/1hughes.html FWIW, --Thomas __________________________ Edited September 20, 2007 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen Collins Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Thanks to Martin Shakelford for this image.Large Cancellare (7) Click Here Notice how many women are wearing white socks. This must have been a fashion for women in Texas. I know NJ women of that day didn't wear dresses and socks together. Kathy Collins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 (edited) Lee Forman has kindly given me permission to post this photo which he aquired through E-Bay so that all may enjoy.Large Image: Click Here __________________________ It's interesting to click on the link that Robin provided, above, and compare the skinny black guy walking across the grass towards Elm Street in the company of the two "suits" (Rip Robertson and John Adrian O'Hare?) with the guy standing third from left in this photo taken by Jim Murray which I found on Robin's great website. http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri4/Murray_knoll.jpg The same guy (I think) is visible in the background of another Murray photo, also from Robin's site: http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri4/LastScan_Murray.jpg If he's not Rip's and O'Hare's companion, then maybe he's the guy who can be seen running across Elm Street towards the knoll after two "three-wheeled" motorcycle-cops heading down Elm Street have passed by the cameraman about 40-45 seconds into this version of the Robert Hughes film: http://www.jfk-online.com/1hughes.html FWIW, --Thomas __________________________ (bump) ____________ Edited September 20, 2007 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Thomas, The only problem with that guy in the Murray photos is that he doesn't look enough like a suspect. I was hoping that someone could ID the guy walking with the "suits" as a known bloodthirsty anti-Castro Cuban killer. Drat! Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 (edited) Thomas,The only problem with that guy in the Murray photos is that he doesn't look enough like a suspect. I was hoping that someone could ID the guy walking with the "suits" as a known bloodthirsty anti-Castro Cuban killer. Drat! Ron ___________________________ Ron, I would like to think that the black guy walking with the two "suits" in the Cancellare photo is Tony Izquierdo, but unfortunately he looks way too skinny to be him when you look at the photos of Izquierdo that James Richards posted on the thread "Nestor 'Tony' Izquierdo-- Dallas Participant?" (Especially the first two photos-- Izzy looks diminutive overall in the third photo, doesn't he?) BTW, Great work James! Thanks. --Thomas ___________________________ Edited September 21, 2007 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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