Cliff Varnell Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 (edited) I suppose that many of you have "speculated" as have I, regarding the "timing" of this NEW FIND.I take this to be a media sneak preview of what Mr. Bugliosi will no doubt "heavily" weigh on, in his 1600 page forthcoming book, which shall prove to all, the validity of the Warren Report; except possibly for its few insignificant and honest errors. It has begun ! We will be led down those same worn out paths, the purpose of which is to further ensnare the research community in those very time consuming re re re-discussions. Since the only seeming "evidentiary" value of this film seems to be once again "coat bunching".....I cannot fail to wholeheartedly believe that a major point in Bugliosi's work will have to do with this so called "bunching". Many more thousands of pages and millions of words and hours will be wasted on a "not even new TANGENT" that can absolutely prove nothing other than it can waste more time. Time is the conspiracy's greatest ally, and the wasting of researchers time on insignificant matters, is their time proven method. Why will it not work again? We continue to make the exact same mistakes and bewilderingly wonder why we come up with the same answers. According to Jim Marrs this "insignificant" matter of the holes in the clothes is the single most important piece of evidence in the case. Gaeton Fonzi has also endorsed the holes in the clothes as key to demolishing the Lone Nut theory (THE LAST INVESTIGATION.) Ditto Noel Twyman in BLOODY TREASON. Meanwhile, Gerald Posner claims that the Jefferies film on Main St. shows the jacket in the precise location required to reconcile the holes in the clothes with the SBT in-shoot 3 inches higher. Note the jacket rode over the top of the shirt collar. http://video.jfk.org/George_Jefferies_film.wmv But the Towner film images on Elm St. -- taken within 5 seconds of the shooting -- clearly show the shirt collar at the back of JFK's neck. http://www.jfk-online.com/Towner.mpg Jacket up on Main St. Jacket down on Elm St. Ergo, the jacket dropped in Dealey Plaza, the SBT thus stands debunked. What could be more simple, obvious, un-debatable? Edited February 26, 2007 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hogan Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 According to Jim Marrs this "insignificant" matter of the holes in the clothes is the single most important piece of evidence in the case. Gaeton Fonzi has also endorsed the holes in the clothes as key to demolishing the Lone Nut theory (THE LAST INVESTIGATION.) Ditto Noel Twyman in BLOODY TREASON. From Accessories After the Fact by Sylvia Meagher, Bobbs-Merrill 1967, p 142: The holes in the President's coat and shirt are also powerful evidence of a wound well below the neckline. The holes are about 5.5 inches below the top of the collar, while the wound is supposedly about 5.5 inches below the tip of the mastoid process. The discrepancy is substantial. Yet Dr. Humes testified that the holes and the wound "conform quite well." He conceded that they gave the appearance "when viewed separately....as being somewhat lower," and proceeded to belabor a hypothesis that the discrepancy resulted from the fact that "the President was extremely well-developed, an extremely well-developed muscular young man with a very well-developed set of muscles....I believe this would have a tendency to push the portions of the coat which shows the defects somewhat higher on the back of the President than on a man of less muscular development." (2H 365) This explanation is singularly unconvincing and guaranteed to stir the wrath of Mr. Kennedy's tailor. The President's coat fit him with elegance, as photographs show. Governor Connally is also a large, well-developed, well-muscled man, but his wounds and the holes in his clothing correspond almost exactly. Was his tailor more gifted than Kennedy's? The Warren Commission may accept Hume's implausible speculations but it does not dispose of reports by eyewitnesses that the wound was four or six inches below the neck. Nor is it understandable that the Commission has failed to mention the discrepancy between the alleged location of the wound and the holes in the clothing in its Report..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 (edited) From Accessories After the Fact by Sylvia Meagher, Bobbs-Merrill 1967, p 142: The holes in the President's coat and shirt are also powerful evidence of a wound well below the neckline. The holes are about 5.5 inches below the top of the collar, while the wound is supposedly about 5.5 inches below the tip of the mastoid process. The discrepancy is substantial. Yet Dr. Humes testified that the holes and the wound "conform quite well." He conceded that they gave the appearance "when viewed separately....as being somewhat lower," and proceeded to belabor a hypothesis that the discrepancy resulted from the fact that "the President was extremely well-developed, an extremely well-developed muscular young man with a very well-developed set of muscles....I believe this would have a tendency to push the portions of the coat which shows the defects somewhat higher on the back of the President than on a man of less muscular development." (2H 365) This explanation is singularly unconvincing and guaranteed to stir the wrath of Mr. Kennedy's tailor. The President's coat fit him with elegance, as photographs show. Governor Connally is also a large, well-developed, well-muscled man, but his wounds and the holes in his clothing correspond almost exactly. Was his tailor more gifted than Kennedy's? The Warren Commission may accept Hume's implausible speculations but it does not dispose of reports by eyewitnesses that the wound was four or six inches below the neck. Nor is it understandable that the Commission has failed to mention the discrepancy between the alleged location of the wound and the holes in the clothing in its Report..... Thank you, Michael. It should also be noted that Robert Groden in The Killing of a President referred to the bullet hole in the shirt as "uncontested" evidence of conspiracy. The early researchers got it right. Edited February 27, 2007 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myra Bronstein Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Hmmmmmmmm?OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR Single Bullet, Single Gunman By GERALD POSNER A never-before-seen home movie showing President John F. Kennedy's motorcade just before his assassination definitively resolves one of the case's enduring controversies. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/21/opinion/...l?th&emc=th February 21, 2007 Op-Ed Contributor Single Bullet, Single Gunman By GERALD POSNER THE ability to use advanced forensics and minuscule traces of DNA to solve crimes, even cold cases decades old, has turned many Americans into armchair sleuths seeking to “solve” the unexpected deaths of people like Princess Diana and Anna Nicole Smith. But sometimes, old-fashioned evidence is as useful in solving puzzles as anything under a nuclear microscope. ... Gerald Posner is the author of “Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of J.F.K.” ... Note the framing in the opening paragraph: "cold cases decades old, has turned many Americans into armchair sleuths seeking to “solve” the unexpected deaths of people like Princess Diana and Anna Nicole Smith." So JFK assassination researchers are lumped in with readers of trashy tabloids obsessing on Anna Nicole Smith. And they sneer at researchers into Princess Diana's murcer while they're at it. ... Warm up your sneer Gerald. "Mohamed al-Fayed brands British royals Diana's "murderers" By Anna Tomforde dpa German Press Agency Published: Friday March 2, 2007 By Anna Tomforde London- Harrods-owner Mohamed al-Fayed Friday described Britain's royal family as "gangsters and murderers" after winning a major legal victory in his campaign for a public investigation into the death of his late son, Dodi, with Princess Diana, in Paris in August 1997. In a move described as "sensational" by commentators, three High Court judges in London ruled that an official British inquest into the death of the couple should be heard by a jury of 12 men and women chosen from the public. They overturned an earlier decision by Judge Elizabeth Butler- Sloss, the deputy royal coroner, that she should sit without a jury during proceedings expected to start in May. ... Al-Fayed, who owns the Harrods luxury department store and also the Ritz Hotel in Paris, from where Dodi and Diana set out before their fatal journey, has always maintained that the couple were killed by British "state agents" because Diana was expecting a "Muslim child" from his son. ... "Diana was the people's princess. The people must be allowed to hear all the evidence and then, and only then, decide how she died, why she died and who ordered her murder," said al-Fayed Friday. ... The decision is seen as a blow to the royal family who had hoped that the conspiracy theories would die down following a British police report that the crash was a "tragic accident."..." http://rawstory.com/news/dpa/Mohamed_al_Fa...y_03022007.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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