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On the recent thread about Jack Valenti, Mark Wilson made the following remark:

There is a short essay in Michael Collins Piper's 6th edition of Final Judgement entitled,maybe a thousand words,The Myth of Dallas:New Revelations.The information included in the essay is said to have arrived to Piper when the 6th edition was to go to press therefore it was an add on.Piper says it was sent anonymously and included 115 footnotes,some of which rely on the mainstream media...in a nutshell the documents attempt to prove that Dallas had a very powerful Jewish community in contrast to " a clique of anti semitic White Anglo-Saxon oil plutocrats"(quote)....The document states that the Citizen Council was the sponsor of the Dallas trip and that Sam Bloom was the long time executive director of the CC.Bloom is described ,"the chairman was Dallas Jewish leader and public relations man,Sam Bloom,the CC's longtime executive director and in retrospect one of the least known but most pivotal figures in world history."

Here is the extract from Final Judgment to which Mark referred:

As the second printing of the sixth edition of Final Judgment was being readied

for press, a detailed 19-page anonymously written document, cited with 115

footnotes, relying on a wide variety of mainstream sources, arrived in the mailbox of

Final Judgment author Michael Collins Piper. The document was in an envelope

(with no return address) postmarked "Dallas, Texas." Entitled "The Kennedy

Assassination and Israel: Some Dallas Connections," the document—apparently the

work of a professional journalist—focused on "the specifics of how the Israelis could

have influenced the events in Dallas," filling in details never explored in previous

editions of Final Judgment. The data is quite explosive, particularly when

contrasted with the mythology regarding "Big D" repeated ad infinitum in JFK

literature. However, understanding the real Dallas—not the city of legend and of

Hollywood drama—prepares one for the revelations laid forth in Final Judgment.

The document buries the tired old myth that a clique of anti-Semitic White

Anglo-Saxon Protestant oil plutocrats ruled Dallas. Instead, the truth is quite the opposite.

Not only did Dallas have an immensely powerful Jewish community, but, more

importantly, the city (and Texas) had been a major center of fundraising and arms

smuggling on behalf of the Zionist cause, going back to the 1940s. Even Jonathan

Pollard, the American spy for Israel, said he was inspired to pro-Israel activism by

stories he heard (while living in Texas) of gunrunning for the Israeli underground by Jews

in Texas. In fact, the official published history of a major Zionist arms smuggling

operation, the Sonneborn Institute, reports its agents smuggled aircraft parts out of

Texas to Israel. This was happening when a then recently discharged Army Air Corps

aircraft mechanic, Jack Ruby, was re-settling in Dallas in 1947, the year prior to Israel's

birth, when Sonneborn's activities were at a zenith. Ruby bragged of having run arms to

Israel and, in 1963, is now known to have part of an arms smuggling operation overseen by

an Israeli intelligence officer. So the Israeli connection to Texas was a lot more intimate

than many today ever realized.

In 1963, JFK's primary interest in Dallas was raising money from the Dallas

elite, and that meant the wealthy pro-Israel Jewish Democrats who were major financial

angels for the ruling Democratic Party there. And since JFK was, at that time, at

loggerheads with Israel over its nuclear arms program, it is critical to recognize how JFK

was lured to Dallas and who was in charge of the arrangements that actually facilitated

his assassination. And while it is well known that the Dallas leg of JFK's Texas trip

was sponsored by the Citizens Council (CC), the elite business group that ruled

Dallas, the little-noticed evidence shows that two of the three key figures who dominated

the CC were Jewish—not "WASPs," as the legend of Dallas would have it. These were

the folks who really ran Dallas, not the conservatives affiliated with the John Birch

Society, as the old myth suggests. In 1963, one of those Jewish power brokers was an

outspokenly pro-Israel liquor wholesaler, Julius Schepps, who held the distribution rights

in Dallas for the Bronfman family's Seagram's products. And as we shall see, there

is evidence that Jack Ruby was on the payroll of the Bronfman family, whose

fingerprints are to be found all over the JFK assassination conspiracy.

The means by which the Dallas elite gained control of JFK's Dallas trip agenda is

interesting. Since JFK's Dallas trip was officially designated as "non political"—in contrast

to other Texas stops such as Houston and Austin which were designated as "political"—

the private entities paying for the Dallas trip gained control of the planning (taking

it out of the hands of the JFK-controlled Democratic National Committee). The

CC designated a "host committee." The chairman was Dallas Jewish leader and public

relations man, Sam Bloom, the CC's longtime executive director, and—in

retrospect—one of the least known but most pivotal figures in world history.

There was an immediate confrontation between Bloom, representing the Dallas elite,

and Jerry Bruno, JFK's veteran advance man. Bruno wanted the president to speak at the

Women's Building, but the rulers of Dallas insisted JFK speak at the Trade Mart.

Although Bruno fought long and hard, after much pressure, the Dallas elite prevailed,

causing the JFK loyalist to comment that "this was one of the few fights like this that I

had lost. On things like this my judgment was usually taken. This time it wasn't."

By forcing JFK to speak at the Trade Mart, the Dallas elite positioned the JFK

motorcade to take the now-infamous "dog-leg" turn into what was a classically sniperfriendly

"kill zone" on Elm Street just below the Texas School Book Depository

(TSBD), from where it later was claimed the alleged assassin, TSBD employee Lee

Harvey Oswald, fired the fatal shots. The spot was also in easy range of the "grassy

knoll" and the nearby Dal-Tex Building, where assassination researchers believe

snipers were located. Had JFK's advance man prevailed—as he usually did—JFK (on

his way to the preferred location) would have traveled two blocks farther away from the

TSBD—out of the kill zone—at a greater speed.

Although the Secret Service objected (for security reasons) to the publication of

JFK's motorcade route, Bloom (the point man for the Dallas elite) nonetheless made

sure a map of the route was repeatedly published in Dallas papers. Thus, later, when

the "patsy" was in custody, there was a plausible explanation as to how he knew JFK

would pass by his workplace.

That an assassin quite probably fired on JFK from the Dal-Tex Building is most

relevant in the context of an Israeli connection. Co-owned by David Weisblat, a major

financial backer of the Israeli lobby's Anti-Defamation League, Dal-Tex housed, on

different floors, a number of firms that utilized the telephone number of Morty

Freedman, an attorney, garment manufacturer, and activist in Jewish affairs. Since

JFK was working to stop Israel's nuclear arms program—which received smuggled

uranium from U.S. sources—it is notable that one Dal-Tex firm linked to Freedman

was the Dallas Uranium & Oil Company. It is also intriguing that one of Freedman's

Dal-Tex business partners was Abe Zapruder, the Jewish dress manufacturer who

filmed the assassination and profited immensely. Today there are some who now

believe Zapruder had advance knowledge of the assassination.

Once the accused assassin was in custody, it was—you guessed it—Sam Bloom,

who had earlier maneuvered JFK into the kill zone, who pressured Elgin Crull, the

city manager, to in turn pressure Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry into making

Oswald accessible to the press and to move him publicly from the Dallas police

station to the city jail. Thus, the situation was in place for Jack Ruby to move in for

the kill. There are several sources, including Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, who

stated Bloom and his backers were the forces behind this. When the police searched

Ruby's home, they found a slip of paper with Bloom's name, address and telephone

number on it.

So it is that the Dallas myth comes to an end. This will be painful for those who

thought the city an anti-Jewish stronghold, ripe for Nazi revolution. Instead, Dallas was

actually an outpost for the advancement of the interests of Israel and today it very much

remains so.

Although Walt Brown suggested in Treachery in Dallas that the city's elite were

prime movers behind the events of November 22, 1963, he rushed to write elsewhere

that the JFK assassination "wasn't done by Mossad . . . as some would have us believe"

(referring to Final Judgment). However, in light of the "Big Picture of Big D"—

details Brown ignored (or suppressed) in terms of their ultimate (and critical) context—

it's time for real JFK assassination truth seekers to take a new look at Final Judgment.

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On the recent thread about Jack Valenti, Mark Wilson made the following remark:
There is a short essay in Michael Collins Piper's 6th edition of Final Judgement entitled,maybe a thousand words,The Myth of Dallas:New Revelations.The information included in the essay is said to have arrived to Piper when the 6th edition was to go to press therefore it was an add on.Piper says it was sent anonymously and included 115 footnotes,some of which rely on the mainstream media...in a nutshell the documents attempt to prove that Dallas had a very powerful Jewish community in contrast to " a clique of anti semitic White Anglo-Saxon oil plutocrats"(quote)....The document states that the Citizen Council was the sponsor of the Dallas trip and that Sam Bloom was the long time executive director of the CC.Bloom is described ,"the chairman was Dallas Jewish leader and public relations man,Sam Bloom,the CC's longtime executive director and in retrospect one of the least known but most pivotal figures in world history."

Here is the extract from Final Judgment to which Mark referred:

As the second printing of the sixth edition of Final Judgment was being readied

for press, a detailed 19-page anonymously written document, cited with 115

footnotes, relying on a wide variety of mainstream sources, arrived in the mailbox of

Final Judgment author Michael Collins Piper. The document was in an envelope

(with no return address) postmarked "Dallas, Texas." Entitled "The Kennedy

Assassination and Israel: Some Dallas Connections," the document—apparently the

work of a professional journalist—focused on "the specifics of how the Israelis could

have influenced the events in Dallas," filling in details never explored in previous

editions of Final Judgment. The data is quite explosive, particularly when

contrasted with the mythology regarding "Big D" repeated ad infinitum in JFK

literature. However, understanding the real Dallas—not the city of legend and of

Hollywood drama—prepares one for the revelations laid forth in Final Judgment.

The document buries the tired old myth that a clique of anti-Semitic White

Anglo-Saxon Protestant oil plutocrats ruled Dallas. Instead, the truth is quite the opposite.

Not only did Dallas have an immensely powerful Jewish community, but, more

importantly, the city (and Texas) had been a major center of fundraising and arms

smuggling on behalf of the Zionist cause, going back to the 1940s. Even Jonathan

Pollard, the American spy for Israel, said he was inspired to pro-Israel activism by

stories he heard (while living in Texas) of gunrunning for the Israeli underground by Jews

in Texas. In fact, the official published history of a major Zionist arms smuggling

operation, the Sonneborn Institute, reports its agents smuggled aircraft parts out of

Texas to Israel. This was happening when a then recently discharged Army Air Corps

aircraft mechanic, Jack Ruby, was re-settling in Dallas in 1947, the year prior to Israel's

birth, when Sonneborn's activities were at a zenith. Ruby bragged of having run arms to

Israel and, in 1963, is now known to have part of an arms smuggling operation overseen by

an Israeli intelligence officer. So the Israeli connection to Texas was a lot more intimate

than many today ever realized.

In 1963, JFK's primary interest in Dallas was raising money from the Dallas

elite, and that meant the wealthy pro-Israel Jewish Democrats who were major financial

angels for the ruling Democratic Party there. And since JFK was, at that time, at

loggerheads with Israel over its nuclear arms program, it is critical to recognize how JFK

was lured to Dallas and who was in charge of the arrangements that actually facilitated

his assassination. And while it is well known that the Dallas leg of JFK's Texas trip

was sponsored by the Citizens Council (CC), the elite business group that ruled

Dallas, the little-noticed evidence shows that two of the three key figures who dominated

the CC were Jewish—not "WASPs," as the legend of Dallas would have it. These were

the folks who really ran Dallas, not the conservatives affiliated with the John Birch

Society, as the old myth suggests. In 1963, one of those Jewish power brokers was an

outspokenly pro-Israel liquor wholesaler, Julius Schepps, who held the distribution rights

in Dallas for the Bronfman family's Seagram's products. And as we shall see, there

is evidence that Jack Ruby was on the payroll of the Bronfman family, whose

fingerprints are to be found all over the JFK assassination conspiracy.

The means by which the Dallas elite gained control of JFK's Dallas trip agenda is

interesting. Since JFK's Dallas trip was officially designated as "non political"—in contrast

to other Texas stops such as Houston and Austin which were designated as "political"—

the private entities paying for the Dallas trip gained control of the planning (taking

it out of the hands of the JFK-controlled Democratic National Committee). The

CC designated a "host committee." The chairman was Dallas Jewish leader and public

relations man, Sam Bloom, the CC's longtime executive director, and—in

retrospect—one of the least known but most pivotal figures in world history.

There was an immediate confrontation between Bloom, representing the Dallas elite,

and Jerry Bruno, JFK's veteran advance man. Bruno wanted the president to speak at the

Women's Building, but the rulers of Dallas insisted JFK speak at the Trade Mart.

Although Bruno fought long and hard, after much pressure, the Dallas elite prevailed,

causing the JFK loyalist to comment that "this was one of the few fights like this that I

had lost. On things like this my judgment was usually taken. This time it wasn't."

By forcing JFK to speak at the Trade Mart, the Dallas elite positioned the JFK

motorcade to take the now-infamous "dog-leg" turn into what was a classically sniperfriendly

"kill zone" on Elm Street just below the Texas School Book Depository

(TSBD), from where it later was claimed the alleged assassin, TSBD employee Lee

Harvey Oswald, fired the fatal shots. The spot was also in easy range of the "grassy

knoll" and the nearby Dal-Tex Building, where assassination researchers believe

snipers were located. Had JFK's advance man prevailed—as he usually did—JFK (on

his way to the preferred location) would have traveled two blocks farther away from the

TSBD—out of the kill zone—at a greater speed.

Although the Secret Service objected (for security reasons) to the publication of

JFK's motorcade route, Bloom (the point man for the Dallas elite) nonetheless made

sure a map of the route was repeatedly published in Dallas papers. Thus, later, when

the "patsy" was in custody, there was a plausible explanation as to how he knew JFK

would pass by his workplace.

That an assassin quite probably fired on JFK from the Dal-Tex Building is most

relevant in the context of an Israeli connection. Co-owned by David Weisblat, a major

financial backer of the Israeli lobby's Anti-Defamation League, Dal-Tex housed, on

different floors, a number of firms that utilized the telephone number of Morty

Freedman, an attorney, garment manufacturer, and activist in Jewish affairs. Since

JFK was working to stop Israel's nuclear arms program—which received smuggled

uranium from U.S. sources—it is notable that one Dal-Tex firm linked to Freedman

was the Dallas Uranium & Oil Company. It is also intriguing that one of Freedman's

Dal-Tex business partners was Abe Zapruder, the Jewish dress manufacturer who

filmed the assassination and profited immensely. Today there are some who now

believe Zapruder had advance knowledge of the assassination.

Once the accused assassin was in custody, it was—you guessed it—Sam Bloom,

who had earlier maneuvered JFK into the kill zone, who pressured Elgin Crull, the

city manager, to in turn pressure Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry into making

Oswald accessible to the press and to move him publicly from the Dallas police

station to the city jail. Thus, the situation was in place for Jack Ruby to move in for

the kill. There are several sources, including Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, who

stated Bloom and his backers were the forces behind this. When the police searched

Ruby's home, they found a slip of paper with Bloom's name, address and telephone

number on it.

So it is that the Dallas myth comes to an end. This will be painful for those who

thought the city an anti-Jewish stronghold, ripe for Nazi revolution. Instead, Dallas was

actually an outpost for the advancement of the interests of Israel and today it very much

remains so.

Although Walt Brown suggested in Treachery in Dallas that the city's elite were

prime movers behind the events of November 22, 1963, he rushed to write elsewhere

that the JFK assassination "wasn't done by Mossad . . . as some would have us believe"

(referring to Final Judgment). However, in light of the "Big Picture of Big D"—

details Brown ignored (or suppressed) in terms of their ultimate (and critical) context—

it's time for real JFK assassination truth seekers to take a new look at Final Judgment.

Sid, interesting how JFK authors repeat mythology surrounding the Big D on the one hand, but are right on the money concerning the Del -Tex building as a sniper location on the other. How do you suppose that works?

Sam Bloom worked on the White House Conference on Equal Employment and the National Advisory Committee on Desegregation at the behest of Kennedy, and was a chief architect in the successful move to desegregation in Dallas.

Bloom employed 350 people. His agency had departments. One such department handled PR. The head of the PR department was Helen Holmes. Ms Holmes was the one who handled the bulk of the work concerning the trip. Later, Ms Holmes branched out on her own and did a lot of work for the Republican Party. I guess Bloom just wasn't fussy who he hired...

It is a fact that there were wealthy Jews in Dallas, but with only one or two exceptions, their influence did not go beyond the Jewish community. The same can be said for most leaders in ethnic communities in the West.

The Citizens Council certainly did have a lot of power, but the leaders of the CC were neither ethnic, nor "anti-Semitic White

Anglo-Saxon Protestant oil plutocrats." Despite those types not running the Citizens Council, Dallas was a stronghold of the extreme right. If you think all the literature on this (whether JFK related, or not) is wrong, I suggest you at least read the letters sent by Larrie Schmidt to Larry Jones and Bernard Weissman. In one letter, he urged Jones to convince Weissman to both change religion and name prior to coming to Dallas, and explicitly states how much his hoped for backers hated Jews.

All that said, I do not exonerate the Citizens Council from having played a role in manipulating the motorcade route. Pinpointing just who pulled the strings on that isn't so cut and dry, and may require looking at various intricate relationships between those businessmen, certain politicians and intelligence personnel.

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On the recent thread about Jack Valenti, Mark Wilson made the following remark:
There is a short essay in Michael Collins Piper's 6th edition of Final Judgement entitled,maybe a thousand words,The Myth of Dallas:New Revelations.The information included in the essay is said to have arrived to Piper when the 6th edition was to go to press therefore it was an add on.Piper says it was sent anonymously and included 115 footnotes,some of which rely on the mainstream media...in a nutshell the documents attempt to prove that Dallas had a very powerful Jewish community in contrast to " a clique of anti semitic White Anglo-Saxon oil plutocrats"(quote)....The document states that the Citizen Council was the sponsor of the Dallas trip and that Sam Bloom was the long time executive director of the CC.Bloom is described ,"the chairman was Dallas Jewish leader and public relations man,Sam Bloom,the CC's longtime executive director and in retrospect one of the least known but most pivotal figures in world history."

Here is the extract from Final Judgment to which Mark referred:

As the second printing of the sixth edition of Final Judgment was being readied

for press, a detailed 19-page anonymously written document, cited with 115

footnotes, relying on a wide variety of mainstream sources, arrived in the mailbox of

Final Judgment author Michael Collins Piper. The document was in an envelope

(with no return address) postmarked "Dallas, Texas." Entitled "The Kennedy

Assassination and Israel: Some Dallas Connections," the document—apparently the

work of a professional journalist—focused on "the specifics of how the Israelis could

have influenced the events in Dallas," filling in details never explored in previous

editions of Final Judgment. The data is quite explosive, particularly when

contrasted with the mythology regarding "Big D" repeated ad infinitum in JFK

literature. However, understanding the real Dallas—not the city of legend and of

Hollywood drama—prepares one for the revelations laid forth in Final Judgment.

The document buries the tired old myth that a clique of anti-Semitic White

Anglo-Saxon Protestant oil plutocrats ruled Dallas. Instead, the truth is quite the opposite.

Not only did Dallas have an immensely powerful Jewish community, but, more

importantly, the city (and Texas) had been a major center of fundraising and arms

smuggling on behalf of the Zionist cause, going back to the 1940s. Even Jonathan

Pollard, the American spy for Israel, said he was inspired to pro-Israel activism by

stories he heard (while living in Texas) of gunrunning for the Israeli underground by Jews

in Texas. In fact, the official published history of a major Zionist arms smuggling

operation, the Sonneborn Institute, reports its agents smuggled aircraft parts out of

Texas to Israel. This was happening when a then recently discharged Army Air Corps

aircraft mechanic, Jack Ruby, was re-settling in Dallas in 1947, the year prior to Israel's

birth, when Sonneborn's activities were at a zenith. Ruby bragged of having run arms to

Israel and, in 1963, is now known to have part of an arms smuggling operation overseen by

an Israeli intelligence officer. So the Israeli connection to Texas was a lot more intimate

than many today ever realized.

In 1963, JFK's primary interest in Dallas was raising money from the Dallas

elite, and that meant the wealthy pro-Israel Jewish Democrats who were major financial

angels for the ruling Democratic Party there. And since JFK was, at that time, at

loggerheads with Israel over its nuclear arms program, it is critical to recognize how JFK

was lured to Dallas and who was in charge of the arrangements that actually facilitated

his assassination. And while it is well known that the Dallas leg of JFK's Texas trip

was sponsored by the Citizens Council (CC), the elite business group that ruled

Dallas, the little-noticed evidence shows that two of the three key figures who dominated

the CC were Jewish—not "WASPs," as the legend of Dallas would have it. These were

the folks who really ran Dallas, not the conservatives affiliated with the John Birch

Society, as the old myth suggests. In 1963, one of those Jewish power brokers was an

outspokenly pro-Israel liquor wholesaler, Julius Schepps, who held the distribution rights

in Dallas for the Bronfman family's Seagram's products. And as we shall see, there

is evidence that Jack Ruby was on the payroll of the Bronfman family, whose

fingerprints are to be found all over the JFK assassination conspiracy.

The means by which the Dallas elite gained control of JFK's Dallas trip agenda is

interesting. Since JFK's Dallas trip was officially designated as "non political"—in contrast

to other Texas stops such as Houston and Austin which were designated as "political"—

the private entities paying for the Dallas trip gained control of the planning (taking

it out of the hands of the JFK-controlled Democratic National Committee). The

CC designated a "host committee." The chairman was Dallas Jewish leader and public

relations man, Sam Bloom, the CC's longtime executive director, and—in

retrospect—one of the least known but most pivotal figures in world history.

There was an immediate confrontation between Bloom, representing the Dallas elite,

and Jerry Bruno, JFK's veteran advance man. Bruno wanted the president to speak at the

Women's Building, but the rulers of Dallas insisted JFK speak at the Trade Mart.

Although Bruno fought long and hard, after much pressure, the Dallas elite prevailed,

causing the JFK loyalist to comment that "this was one of the few fights like this that I

had lost. On things like this my judgment was usually taken. This time it wasn't."

By forcing JFK to speak at the Trade Mart, the Dallas elite positioned the JFK

motorcade to take the now-infamous "dog-leg" turn into what was a classically sniperfriendly

"kill zone" on Elm Street just below the Texas School Book Depository

(TSBD), from where it later was claimed the alleged assassin, TSBD employee Lee

Harvey Oswald, fired the fatal shots. The spot was also in easy range of the "grassy

knoll" and the nearby Dal-Tex Building, where assassination researchers believe

snipers were located. Had JFK's advance man prevailed—as he usually did—JFK (on

his way to the preferred location) would have traveled two blocks farther away from the

TSBD—out of the kill zone—at a greater speed.

Although the Secret Service objected (for security reasons) to the publication of

JFK's motorcade route, Bloom (the point man for the Dallas elite) nonetheless made

sure a map of the route was repeatedly published in Dallas papers. Thus, later, when

the "patsy" was in custody, there was a plausible explanation as to how he knew JFK

would pass by his workplace.

That an assassin quite probably fired on JFK from the Dal-Tex Building is most

relevant in the context of an Israeli connection. Co-owned by David Weisblat, a major

financial backer of the Israeli lobby's Anti-Defamation League, Dal-Tex housed, on

different floors, a number of firms that utilized the telephone number of Morty

Freedman, an attorney, garment manufacturer, and activist in Jewish affairs. Since

JFK was working to stop Israel's nuclear arms program—which received smuggled

uranium from U.S. sources—it is notable that one Dal-Tex firm linked to Freedman

was the Dallas Uranium & Oil Company. It is also intriguing that one of Freedman's

Dal-Tex business partners was Abe Zapruder, the Jewish dress manufacturer who

filmed the assassination and profited immensely. Today there are some who now

believe Zapruder had advance knowledge of the assassination.

Once the accused assassin was in custody, it was—you guessed it—Sam Bloom,

who had earlier maneuvered JFK into the kill zone, who pressured Elgin Crull, the

city manager, to in turn pressure Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry into making

Oswald accessible to the press and to move him publicly from the Dallas police

station to the city jail. Thus, the situation was in place for Jack Ruby to move in for

the kill. There are several sources, including Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, who

stated Bloom and his backers were the forces behind this. When the police searched

Ruby's home, they found a slip of paper with Bloom's name, address and telephone

number on it.

So it is that the Dallas myth comes to an end. This will be painful for those who

thought the city an anti-Jewish stronghold, ripe for Nazi revolution. Instead, Dallas was

actually an outpost for the advancement of the interests of Israel and today it very much

remains so.

Although Walt Brown suggested in Treachery in Dallas that the city's elite were

prime movers behind the events of November 22, 1963, he rushed to write elsewhere

that the JFK assassination "wasn't done by Mossad . . . as some would have us believe"

(referring to Final Judgment). However, in light of the "Big Picture of Big D"—

details Brown ignored (or suppressed) in terms of their ultimate (and critical) context—

it's time for real JFK assassination truth seekers to take a new look at Final Judgment.

In 1963, one of those Jewish power brokers was an

outspokenly pro-Israel liquor wholesaler, Julius Schepps

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online...sc65_print.html

There exists a number of correlating factors in the "Schepps" connection.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=83

http://anna.lib.usm.edu/~spcol/crda/oh/ohfeibelmanjb.html

The president of the board at that time was Clarence Schepps, who was a vice-president of Tulane

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo/jfk9/hscv9g.htm

Harmon Schepps, a Dallas businessman who might be a backer for Ruby, takes the Weinbergs, who have control of the Dallas Transit Co., to the Carousel Club

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/w...H23_CE_1557.pdf

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On the recent thread about Jack Valenti, Mark Wilson made the following remark:
There is a short essay in Michael Collins Piper's 6th edition of Final Judgement entitled,maybe a thousand words,The Myth of Dallas:New Revelations.The information included in the essay is said to have arrived to Piper when the 6th edition was to go to press therefore it was an add on.Piper says it was sent anonymously and included 115 footnotes,some of which rely on the mainstream media...in a nutshell the documents attempt to prove that Dallas had a very powerful Jewish community in contrast to " a clique of anti semitic White Anglo-Saxon oil plutocrats"(quote)....The document states that the Citizen Council was the sponsor of the Dallas trip and that Sam Bloom was the long time executive director of the CC.Bloom is described ,"the chairman was Dallas Jewish leader and public relations man,Sam Bloom,the CC's longtime executive director and in retrospect one of the least known but most pivotal figures in world history."

Here is the extract from Final Judgment to which Mark referred:

As the second printing of the sixth edition of Final Judgment was being readied

for press, a detailed 19-page anonymously written document, cited with 115

footnotes, relying on a wide variety of mainstream sources, arrived in the mailbox of

Final Judgment author Michael Collins Piper. The document was in an envelope

(with no return address) postmarked "Dallas, Texas." Entitled "The Kennedy

Assassination and Israel: Some Dallas Connections," the document—apparently the

work of a professional journalist—focused on "the specifics of how the Israelis could

have influenced the events in Dallas," filling in details never explored in previous

editions of Final Judgment. The data is quite explosive, particularly when

contrasted with the mythology regarding "Big D" repeated ad infinitum in JFK

literature. However, understanding the real Dallas—not the city of legend and of

Hollywood drama—prepares one for the revelations laid forth in Final Judgment.

The document buries the tired old myth that a clique of anti-Semitic White

Anglo-Saxon Protestant oil plutocrats ruled Dallas. Instead, the truth is quite the opposite.

Not only did Dallas have an immensely powerful Jewish community, but, more

importantly, the city (and Texas) had been a major center of fundraising and arms

smuggling on behalf of the Zionist cause, going back to the 1940s. Even Jonathan

Pollard, the American spy for Israel, said he was inspired to pro-Israel activism by

stories he heard (while living in Texas) of gunrunning for the Israeli underground by Jews

in Texas. In fact, the official published history of a major Zionist arms smuggling

operation, the Sonneborn Institute, reports its agents smuggled aircraft parts out of

Texas to Israel. This was happening when a then recently discharged Army Air Corps

aircraft mechanic, Jack Ruby, was re-settling in Dallas in 1947, the year prior to Israel's

birth, when Sonneborn's activities were at a zenith. Ruby bragged of having run arms to

Israel and, in 1963, is now known to have part of an arms smuggling operation overseen by

an Israeli intelligence officer. So the Israeli connection to Texas was a lot more intimate

than many today ever realized.

In 1963, JFK's primary interest in Dallas was raising money from the Dallas

elite, and that meant the wealthy pro-Israel Jewish Democrats who were major financial

angels for the ruling Democratic Party there. And since JFK was, at that time, at

loggerheads with Israel over its nuclear arms program, it is critical to recognize how JFK

was lured to Dallas and who was in charge of the arrangements that actually facilitated

his assassination. And while it is well known that the Dallas leg of JFK's Texas trip

was sponsored by the Citizens Council (CC), the elite business group that ruled

Dallas, the little-noticed evidence shows that two of the three key figures who dominated

the CC were Jewish—not "WASPs," as the legend of Dallas would have it. These were

the folks who really ran Dallas, not the conservatives affiliated with the John Birch

Society, as the old myth suggests. In 1963, one of those Jewish power brokers was an

outspokenly pro-Israel liquor wholesaler, Julius Schepps, who held the distribution rights

in Dallas for the Bronfman family's Seagram's products. And as we shall see, there

is evidence that Jack Ruby was on the payroll of the Bronfman family, whose

fingerprints are to be found all over the JFK assassination conspiracy.

The means by which the Dallas elite gained control of JFK's Dallas trip agenda is

interesting. Since JFK's Dallas trip was officially designated as "non political"—in contrast

to other Texas stops such as Houston and Austin which were designated as "political"—

the private entities paying for the Dallas trip gained control of the planning (taking

it out of the hands of the JFK-controlled Democratic National Committee). The

CC designated a "host committee." The chairman was Dallas Jewish leader and public

relations man, Sam Bloom, the CC's longtime executive director, and—in

retrospect—one of the least known but most pivotal figures in world history.

There was an immediate confrontation between Bloom, representing the Dallas elite,

and Jerry Bruno, JFK's veteran advance man. Bruno wanted the president to speak at the

Women's Building, but the rulers of Dallas insisted JFK speak at the Trade Mart.

Although Bruno fought long and hard, after much pressure, the Dallas elite prevailed,

causing the JFK loyalist to comment that "this was one of the few fights like this that I

had lost. On things like this my judgment was usually taken. This time it wasn't."

By forcing JFK to speak at the Trade Mart, the Dallas elite positioned the JFK

motorcade to take the now-infamous "dog-leg" turn into what was a classically sniperfriendly

"kill zone" on Elm Street just below the Texas School Book Depository

(TSBD), from where it later was claimed the alleged assassin, TSBD employee Lee

Harvey Oswald, fired the fatal shots. The spot was also in easy range of the "grassy

knoll" and the nearby Dal-Tex Building, where assassination researchers believe

snipers were located. Had JFK's advance man prevailed—as he usually did—JFK (on

his way to the preferred location) would have traveled two blocks farther away from the

TSBD—out of the kill zone—at a greater speed.

Although the Secret Service objected (for security reasons) to the publication of

JFK's motorcade route, Bloom (the point man for the Dallas elite) nonetheless made

sure a map of the route was repeatedly published in Dallas papers. Thus, later, when

the "patsy" was in custody, there was a plausible explanation as to how he knew JFK

would pass by his workplace.

That an assassin quite probably fired on JFK from the Dal-Tex Building is most

relevant in the context of an Israeli connection. Co-owned by David Weisblat, a major

financial backer of the Israeli lobby's Anti-Defamation League, Dal-Tex housed, on

different floors, a number of firms that utilized the telephone number of Morty

Freedman, an attorney, garment manufacturer, and activist in Jewish affairs. Since

JFK was working to stop Israel's nuclear arms program—which received smuggled

uranium from U.S. sources—it is notable that one Dal-Tex firm linked to Freedman

was the Dallas Uranium & Oil Company. It is also intriguing that one of Freedman's

Dal-Tex business partners was Abe Zapruder, the Jewish dress manufacturer who

filmed the assassination and profited immensely. Today there are some who now

believe Zapruder had advance knowledge of the assassination.

Once the accused assassin was in custody, it was—you guessed it—Sam Bloom,

who had earlier maneuvered JFK into the kill zone, who pressured Elgin Crull, the

city manager, to in turn pressure Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry into making

Oswald accessible to the press and to move him publicly from the Dallas police

station to the city jail. Thus, the situation was in place for Jack Ruby to move in for

the kill. There are several sources, including Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, who

stated Bloom and his backers were the forces behind this. When the police searched

Ruby's home, they found a slip of paper with Bloom's name, address and telephone

number on it.

So it is that the Dallas myth comes to an end. This will be painful for those who

thought the city an anti-Jewish stronghold, ripe for Nazi revolution. Instead, Dallas was

actually an outpost for the advancement of the interests of Israel and today it very much

remains so.

Although Walt Brown suggested in Treachery in Dallas that the city's elite were

prime movers behind the events of November 22, 1963, he rushed to write elsewhere

that the JFK assassination "wasn't done by Mossad . . . as some would have us believe"

(referring to Final Judgment). However, in light of the "Big Picture of Big D"—

details Brown ignored (or suppressed) in terms of their ultimate (and critical) context—

it's time for real JFK assassination truth seekers to take a new look at Final Judgment.

Sid, interesting how JFK authors repeat mythology surrounding the Big D on the one hand, but are right on the money concerning the Del -Tex building as a sniper location on the other. How do you suppose that works?

Sam Bloom worked on the White House Conference on Equal Employment and the National Advisory Committee on Desegregation at the behest of Kennedy, and was a chief architect in the successful move to desegregation in Dallas.

Bloom employed 350 people. His agency had departments. One such department handled PR. The head of the PR department was Helen Holmes. Ms Holmes was the one who handled the bulk of the work concerning the trip. Later, Ms Holmes branched out on her own and did a lot of work for the Republican Party. I guess Bloom just wasn't fussy who he hired...

It is a fact that there were wealthy Jews in Dallas, but with only one or two exceptions, their influence did not go beyond the Jewish community. The same can be said for most leaders in ethnic communities in the West.

The Citizens Council certainly did have a lot of power, but the leaders of the CC were neither ethnic, nor "anti-Semitic White

Anglo-Saxon Protestant oil plutocrats." Despite those types not running the Citizens Council, Dallas was a stronghold of the extreme right. If you think all the literature on this (whether JFK related, or not) is wrong, I suggest you at least read the letters sent by Larrie Schmidt to Larry Jones and Bernard Weissman. In one letter, he urged Jones to convince Weissman to both change religion and name prior to coming to Dallas, and explicitly states how much his hoped for backers hated Jews.

All that said, I do not exonerate the Citizens Council from having played a role in manipulating the motorcade route. Pinpointing just who pulled the strings on that isn't so cut and dry, and may require looking at various intricate relationships between those businessmen, certain politicians and intelligence personnel.

Greg,

Your claim that Jewish influence in Dallas did not extend beyond the Jewish community is merely an opinion, imo.

As a statement of fact, it certainly can't be proven.

Jewish influence in Dallas circa 1963 (and more importantly, support for the state of Israel in Dallas circa 1963) is often dismissed by those citing the argument that right-wing rednecks are universally anti-Semitic. It's true, the stereotypical redneck hates Jews--and hispanics, asians, africans and all ethnic minorities. However, the possibility that the conflict between JFK and Israel played a role in the assassination can't be dismissed on the basis of a widely held belief in the behavior of stereotypes, imo. Jack Ruby took the precaution of changing his name and subsequently carried out clandestine operations on behalf of Israel while living and working right in the heart of redneck centrale. He moved to Dallas in 1947--one year before Israel's creation. Establishing a base of operations in a locality where it is presumed that an anti-semitic hostility prevails could be regarded as quite dumb--or perhaps the perfect cover.

Also, the fact that Bloom was appointed to an official capacity by JFK doesn't exonerate him from suspicion, imo. JFK also appointed Myer Feldman as his advisor--ostensibly as a reward to the Jewish lobby for its support of his 1960 campaign. However, RFK is on record as stating that Feldman's 'major interest was Israel rather than the US' (see Piper thread). Where Feldman's real loyalties lay is very much an open question and I believe Bloom might fall into the same category. It's clear to me that JFK was betrayed by those who had his confidence, as well as by those, like LBJ, who he kept at arm's length.

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Bloom, Valenti, Feldman, Schepps, Rostow, Paley, Sarnoff, Lansky, Ruby, LBJ and who knows who else. Can't think of any more off the top of my head just now.

Passionately pro-Israel to a man. Where there's smoke.

Slightly OT, but I read a book a while back which contained a pro-Israel rant attributed to Clay Shaw prior to the assassination---can't remember which book and unable to trace the quote through the internet. Perfect recall would be a rare gift.

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On the recent thread about Jack Valenti, Mark Wilson made the following remark:
There is a short essay in Michael Collins Piper's 6th edition of Final Judgement entitled,maybe a thousand words,The Myth of Dallas:New Revelations.The information included in the essay is said to have arrived to Piper when the 6th edition was to go to press therefore it was an add on.Piper says it was sent anonymously and included 115 footnotes,some of which rely on the mainstream media...in a nutshell the documents attempt to prove that Dallas had a very powerful Jewish community in contrast to " a clique of anti semitic White Anglo-Saxon oil plutocrats"(quote)....The document states that the Citizen Council was the sponsor of the Dallas trip and that Sam Bloom was the long time executive director of the CC.Bloom is described ,"the chairman was Dallas Jewish leader and public relations man,Sam Bloom,the CC's longtime executive director and in retrospect one of the least known but most pivotal figures in world history."

Here is the extract from Final Judgment to which Mark referred:

As the second printing of the sixth edition of Final Judgment was being readied

for press, a detailed 19-page anonymously written document, cited with 115

footnotes, relying on a wide variety of mainstream sources, arrived in the mailbox of

Final Judgment author Michael Collins Piper. The document was in an envelope

(with no return address) postmarked "Dallas, Texas." Entitled "The Kennedy

Assassination and Israel: Some Dallas Connections," the document—apparently the

work of a professional journalist—focused on "the specifics of how the Israelis could

have influenced the events in Dallas," filling in details never explored in previous

editions of Final Judgment. The data is quite explosive, particularly when

contrasted with the mythology regarding "Big D" repeated ad infinitum in JFK

literature. However, understanding the real Dallas—not the city of legend and of

Hollywood drama—prepares one for the revelations laid forth in Final Judgment.

The document buries the tired old myth that a clique of anti-Semitic White

Anglo-Saxon Protestant oil plutocrats ruled Dallas. Instead, the truth is quite the opposite.

Not only did Dallas have an immensely powerful Jewish community, but, more

importantly, the city (and Texas) had been a major center of fundraising and arms

smuggling on behalf of the Zionist cause, going back to the 1940s. Even Jonathan

Pollard, the American spy for Israel, said he was inspired to pro-Israel activism by

stories he heard (while living in Texas) of gunrunning for the Israeli underground by Jews

in Texas. In fact, the official published history of a major Zionist arms smuggling

operation, the Sonneborn Institute, reports its agents smuggled aircraft parts out of

Texas to Israel. This was happening when a then recently discharged Army Air Corps

aircraft mechanic, Jack Ruby, was re-settling in Dallas in 1947, the year prior to Israel's

birth, when Sonneborn's activities were at a zenith. Ruby bragged of having run arms to

Israel and, in 1963, is now known to have part of an arms smuggling operation overseen by

an Israeli intelligence officer. So the Israeli connection to Texas was a lot more intimate

than many today ever realized.

In 1963, JFK's primary interest in Dallas was raising money from the Dallas

elite, and that meant the wealthy pro-Israel Jewish Democrats who were major financial

angels for the ruling Democratic Party there. And since JFK was, at that time, at

loggerheads with Israel over its nuclear arms program, it is critical to recognize how JFK

was lured to Dallas and who was in charge of the arrangements that actually facilitated

his assassination. And while it is well known that the Dallas leg of JFK's Texas trip

was sponsored by the Citizens Council (CC), the elite business group that ruled

Dallas, the little-noticed evidence shows that two of the three key figures who dominated

the CC were Jewish—not "WASPs," as the legend of Dallas would have it. These were

the folks who really ran Dallas, not the conservatives affiliated with the John Birch

Society, as the old myth suggests. In 1963, one of those Jewish power brokers was an

outspokenly pro-Israel liquor wholesaler, Julius Schepps, who held the distribution rights

in Dallas for the Bronfman family's Seagram's products. And as we shall see, there

is evidence that Jack Ruby was on the payroll of the Bronfman family, whose

fingerprints are to be found all over the JFK assassination conspiracy.

The means by which the Dallas elite gained control of JFK's Dallas trip agenda is

interesting. Since JFK's Dallas trip was officially designated as "non political"—in contrast

to other Texas stops such as Houston and Austin which were designated as "political"—

the private entities paying for the Dallas trip gained control of the planning (taking

it out of the hands of the JFK-controlled Democratic National Committee). The

CC designated a "host committee." The chairman was Dallas Jewish leader and public

relations man, Sam Bloom, the CC's longtime executive director, and—in

retrospect—one of the least known but most pivotal figures in world history.

There was an immediate confrontation between Bloom, representing the Dallas elite,

and Jerry Bruno, JFK's veteran advance man. Bruno wanted the president to speak at the

Women's Building, but the rulers of Dallas insisted JFK speak at the Trade Mart.

Although Bruno fought long and hard, after much pressure, the Dallas elite prevailed,

causing the JFK loyalist to comment that "this was one of the few fights like this that I

had lost. On things like this my judgment was usually taken. This time it wasn't."

By forcing JFK to speak at the Trade Mart, the Dallas elite positioned the JFK

motorcade to take the now-infamous "dog-leg" turn into what was a classically sniperfriendly

"kill zone" on Elm Street just below the Texas School Book Depository

(TSBD), from where it later was claimed the alleged assassin, TSBD employee Lee

Harvey Oswald, fired the fatal shots. The spot was also in easy range of the "grassy

knoll" and the nearby Dal-Tex Building, where assassination researchers believe

snipers were located. Had JFK's advance man prevailed—as he usually did—JFK (on

his way to the preferred location) would have traveled two blocks farther away from the

TSBD—out of the kill zone—at a greater speed.

Although the Secret Service objected (for security reasons) to the publication of

JFK's motorcade route, Bloom (the point man for the Dallas elite) nonetheless made

sure a map of the route was repeatedly published in Dallas papers. Thus, later, when

the "patsy" was in custody, there was a plausible explanation as to how he knew JFK

would pass by his workplace.

That an assassin quite probably fired on JFK from the Dal-Tex Building is most

relevant in the context of an Israeli connection. Co-owned by David Weisblat, a major

financial backer of the Israeli lobby's Anti-Defamation League, Dal-Tex housed, on

different floors, a number of firms that utilized the telephone number of Morty

Freedman, an attorney, garment manufacturer, and activist in Jewish affairs. Since

JFK was working to stop Israel's nuclear arms program—which received smuggled

uranium from U.S. sources—it is notable that one Dal-Tex firm linked to Freedman

was the Dallas Uranium & Oil Company. It is also intriguing that one of Freedman's

Dal-Tex business partners was Abe Zapruder, the Jewish dress manufacturer who

filmed the assassination and profited immensely. Today there are some who now

believe Zapruder had advance knowledge of the assassination.

Once the accused assassin was in custody, it was—you guessed it—Sam Bloom,

who had earlier maneuvered JFK into the kill zone, who pressured Elgin Crull, the

city manager, to in turn pressure Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry into making

Oswald accessible to the press and to move him publicly from the Dallas police

station to the city jail. Thus, the situation was in place for Jack Ruby to move in for

the kill. There are several sources, including Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, who

stated Bloom and his backers were the forces behind this. When the police searched

Ruby's home, they found a slip of paper with Bloom's name, address and telephone

number on it.

So it is that the Dallas myth comes to an end. This will be painful for those who

thought the city an anti-Jewish stronghold, ripe for Nazi revolution. Instead, Dallas was

actually an outpost for the advancement of the interests of Israel and today it very much

remains so.

Although Walt Brown suggested in Treachery in Dallas that the city's elite were

prime movers behind the events of November 22, 1963, he rushed to write elsewhere

that the JFK assassination "wasn't done by Mossad . . . as some would have us believe"

(referring to Final Judgment). However, in light of the "Big Picture of Big D"—

details Brown ignored (or suppressed) in terms of their ultimate (and critical) context—

it's time for real JFK assassination truth seekers to take a new look at Final Judgment.

Sid, interesting how JFK authors repeat mythology surrounding the Big D on the one hand, but are right on the money concerning the Del -Tex building as a sniper location on the other. How do you suppose that works?

Sam Bloom worked on the White House Conference on Equal Employment and the National Advisory Committee on Desegregation at the behest of Kennedy, and was a chief architect in the successful move to desegregation in Dallas.

Bloom employed 350 people. His agency had departments. One such department handled PR. The head of the PR department was Helen Holmes. Ms Holmes was the one who handled the bulk of the work concerning the trip. Later, Ms Holmes branched out on her own and did a lot of work for the Republican Party. I guess Bloom just wasn't fussy who he hired...

It is a fact that there were wealthy Jews in Dallas, but with only one or two exceptions, their influence did not go beyond the Jewish community. The same can be said for most leaders in ethnic communities in the West.

The Citizens Council certainly did have a lot of power, but the leaders of the CC were neither ethnic, nor "anti-Semitic White

Anglo-Saxon Protestant oil plutocrats." Despite those types not running the Citizens Council, Dallas was a stronghold of the extreme right. If you think all the literature on this (whether JFK related, or not) is wrong, I suggest you at least read the letters sent by Larrie Schmidt to Larry Jones and Bernard Weissman. In one letter, he urged Jones to convince Weissman to both change religion and name prior to coming to Dallas, and explicitly states how much his hoped for backers hated Jews.

All that said, I do not exonerate the Citizens Council from having played a role in manipulating the motorcade route. Pinpointing just who pulled the strings on that isn't so cut and dry, and may require looking at various intricate relationships between those businessmen, certain politicians and intelligence personnel.

Greg,

Your claim that Jewish influence in Dallas did not extend beyond the Jewish community is merely an opinion, imo.

As a statement of fact, it certainly can't be proven.

Jewish influence in Dallas circa 1963 (and more importantly, support for the state of Israel in Dallas circa 1963) is often dismissed by those citing the argument that right-wing rednecks are universally anti-Semitic. It's true, the stereotypical redneck hates Jews--and hispanics, asians, africans and all ethnic minorities. However, the possibility that the conflict between JFK and Israel played a role in the assassination can't be dismissed on the basis of a widely held belief in the behavior of stereotypes, imo. Jack Ruby took the precaution of changing his name and subsequently carried out clandestine operations on behalf of Israel while living and working right in the heart of redneck centrale. He moved to Dallas in 1947--one year before Israel's creation. Establishing a base of operations in a locality where it is presumed that an anti-semitic hostility prevails could be regarded as quite dumb--or perhaps the perfect cover.

Also, the fact that Bloom was appointed to an official capacity by JFK doesn't exonerate him from suspicion, imo. JFK also appointed Myer Feldman as his advisor--ostensibly as a reward to the Jewish lobby for its support of his 1960 campaign. However, RFK is on record as stating that Feldman's 'major interest was Israel rather than the US' (see Piper thread). Where Feldman's real loyalties lay is very much an open question and I believe Bloom might fall into the same category. It's clear to me that JFK was betrayed by those who had his confidence, as well as by those, like LBJ, who he kept at arm's length.

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Fascinating, "enlightening" thread

--Thomas

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There was an immediate confrontation between Bloom, representing the Dallas elite,

and Jerry Bruno, JFK's veteran advance man. Bruno wanted the president to speak at the

Women's Building, but the rulers of Dallas insisted JFK speak at the Trade Mart.

Although Bruno fought long and hard, after much pressure, the Dallas elite prevailed,

causing the JFK loyalist to comment that "this was one of the few fights like this that I

had lost. On things like this my judgment was usually taken. This time it wasn't."

This is misleading if you look at Bruno's own account in his book "The Advance Man." Bruno mentions no trouble at all with the Citizens' Council or Dallas elite." All his trouble was with John Connally. Bruno's reference to losing the fight is the fight he had with Connally over the site of the luncheon.

Bruno does state that the Trade Mart location would be "totally under the control of the Dallas Citizens' Council," "the establishment group that ran the town's politics, social life, and everything else. A Trade Mart luncheon would be a rich people's luncheon: a way of identifying Kennedy with the Dallas establishment" (p. 90). This would be preferred by the council over the Women's Building, which had "a sprawling auditorium which could hold four thousand" and would mean that the place would be opened up after lunch so that "the people in Dallas," not just the privileged establishment, could come in and hear Kennedy (p. 89).

In jerking Bruno around over the site, Connally may have been acting on behalf of Sam Bloom and the Citizens' Council, but if so Bruno apparently wasn't aware of it. According to Bruno, Connally wanted the Trade Mart because in the Women's Building the luncheon dais could be only one level high. "At the Trade Mart you could build tiers on the dais. And that's what Connally wanted to do, so that his allies could sit with the President, while Yarborough was put as far away from Kennedy as possible, to prove who had clout and who was out of it - the Russian May Day idea again, that the closer you were to Number One, the more important you were" (p. 90).

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Greg,

Your claim that Jewish influence in Dallas did not extend beyond the Jewish community is merely an opinion, imo.

As a statement of fact, it certainly can't be proven.

Mark, I said, "with only one or two exceptions", and I was referring to direct political influence. Jews did have influence in the arts, professions and commerce (Oi vey! There are those damn stereotypes again!). What would you accept as proof of this? There is a book on the subject called "Pioneer Jewish Texans: Their Impact on Texas and American History for Four Hundred Years 1590-1990". You can pick up a used copy for $2.48US at Amazon.

It wasn't until 1984 that Dallas even had a Jewish Mayor. If Jews had been so politically influential, why did it take until 1984 to get one of their own into that office? Just as Bouhe was the "go-to" guy for White Russians, so Julius Schepps was for the Jewish community. I'm sure you're aware of similar roles played by prominent members of various communities in Sydney.

I would also refer you to this testimony from one-time Ruby lawyer, Stanley Kaufman:

Well, Tom Howard, I think, talked to me several times about this Rubenstein deal. I would call Tom Howard and say, "The Jewish community is in an uproar about this, I had a call from so-and-so," and this was true this is true. In fact, I had a call from Julius Schepps and some of the most responsible and influential people we do have in Dallas too, and they said to me, "I hope you are not going to get involved in this case," and to Julius I remember I said, "Well, Julius, you know--" he heard my name mentioned, and I said, "Julius, if I were able to represent the man I would"

"...Julius Schepps and some of the most responsible and influential people we do have in Dallas..." the "we" being the Jewish community. I would think if Schepps was involved, he'd want one of his "own kind" representing Ruby. Instead, he advised him to steer clear of it.

Jewish influence in Dallas circa 1963 (and more importantly, support for the state of Israel in Dallas circa 1963) is often dismissed by those citing the argument that right-wing rednecks are universally anti-Semitic.

Since that wasn't what I argued, I have to wonder why you make the point? Regarding what I did say, your argument isn't with me, Mark, it's with Larrie Schmidt. I can put you in touch if you want to take it up with him.

It's true, the stereotypical redneck hates Jews--and hispanics, asians, africans and all ethnic minorities. However, the possibility that the conflict between JFK and Israel played a role in the assassination can't be dismissed on the basis of a widely held belief in the behavior of stereotypes, imo.

The conspiracy is close to being unlocked. Israel, along with several other groups/individuals under suspicion won't be in the picture.

Jack Ruby took the precaution of changing his name and subsequently carried out clandestine operations on behalf of Israel while living and working right in the heart of redneck centrale. He moved to Dallas in 1947--one year before Israel's creation. Establishing a base of operations in a locality where it is presumed that an anti-semitic hostility prevails could be regarded as quite dumb--or perhaps the perfect cover.

Ruby was into anything he could potentially make a buck out of.

Also, the fact that Bloom was appointed to an official capacity by JFK doesn't exonerate him from suspicion, imo.

Agreed. But it does militate against involvement.

JFK also appointed Myer Feldman as his advisor--ostensibly as a reward to the Jewish lobby for its support of his 1960 campaign. However, RFK is on record as stating that Feldman's 'major interest was Israel rather than the US' (see Piper thread). Where Feldman's real loyalties lay is very much an open question and I believe Bloom might fall into the same category. It's clear to me that JFK was betrayed by those who had his confidence, as well as by those, like LBJ, who he kept at arm's length.

They do say, "keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer". :cheers

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Greg,

Your claim that Jewish influence in Dallas did not extend beyond the Jewish community is merely an opinion, imo.

As a statement of fact, it certainly can't be proven.

Mark, I said, "with only one or two exceptions", and I was referring to direct political influence. Jews did have influence in the arts, professions and commerce (Oi vey! There are those damn stereotypes again!). What would you accept as proof of this? There is a book on the subject called "Pioneer Jewish Texans: Their Impact on Texas and American History for Four Hundred Years 1590-1990". You can pick up a used copy for $2.48US at Amazon.

It wasn't until 1984 that Dallas even had a Jewish Mayor. If Jews had been so politically influential, why did it take until 1984 to get one of their own into that office? Just as Bouhe was the "go-to" guy for White Russians, so Julius Schepps was for the Jewish community. I'm sure you're aware of similar roles played by prominent members of various communities in Sydney.

The argument's drifting from the central point, imo (at least the point I'm trying to stress), namely that many of the central players in the assassination and coverup seemed to share a common unity of purpose--support for the state of Israel. Not all supporters of Israel were Jewish. LBJ, for example. At this point it is difficult to pinpoint how much support for Israel's predicament vis-a-vis JFK existed within the power elite of Dallas but it's plain, imo, that many Dallas's power elite hated JFK and needed little persuasion in order to lend assistance to the plan. Separating the manipulators from the manipulated is the tricky part. From my standpoint, Israel gained more from the assassination than right wing rednecks did. Civil rights legislation was their reward.

I would also refer you to this testimony from one-time Ruby lawyer, Stanley Kaufman:

Well, Tom Howard, I think, talked to me several times about this Rubenstein deal. I would call Tom Howard and say, "The Jewish community is in an uproar about this, I had a call from so-and-so," and this was true this is true. In fact, I had a call from Julius Schepps and some of the most responsible and influential people we do have in Dallas too, and they said to me, "I hope you are not going to get involved in this case," and to Julius I remember I said, "Well, Julius, you know--" he heard my name mentioned, and I said, "Julius, if I were able to represent the man I would"

"...Julius Schepps and some of the most responsible and influential people we do have in Dallas..." the "we" being the Jewish community. I would think if Schepps was involved, he'd want one of his "own kind" representing Ruby. Instead, he advised him to steer clear of it.

Jewish influence in Dallas circa 1963 (and more importantly, support for the state of Israel in Dallas circa 1963) is often dismissed by those citing the argument that right-wing rednecks are universally anti-Semitic.

Since that wasn't what I argued, I have to wonder why you make the point? Regarding what I did say, your argument isn't with me, Mark, it's with Larrie Schmidt. I can put you in touch if you want to take it up with him.

It's true, the stereotypical redneck hates Jews--and hispanics, asians, africans and all ethnic minorities. However, the possibility that the conflict between JFK and Israel played a role in the assassination can't be dismissed on the basis of a widely held belief in the behavior of stereotypes, imo.

The conspiracy is close to being unlocked. Israel, along with several other groups/individuals under suspicion won't be in the picture.

This is big news, Greg. I hope you are right. You obviously know more about this than me. Frankly, if it were proven that Israel was not involved in the conspiracy I would be surprised but I think the truth, if it were ever revealed, will be surprising. Closure is what everyone wants.

Jack Ruby took the precaution of changing his name and subsequently carried out clandestine operations on behalf of Israel while living and working right in the heart of redneck centrale. He moved to Dallas in 1947--one year before Israel's creation. Establishing a base of operations in a locality where it is presumed that an anti-semitic hostility prevails could be regarded as quite dumb--or perhaps the perfect cover.

Ruby was into anything he could potentially make a buck out of.

Sure. But, like many of his colleagues, he was passionate about Israel. That's my point. How passionate? Enough to participate in a conspiracy to remove a President whom Israel deemed a serious threat to their long term viability and install a man with a long record of support for Israel? History has shown that JFK's removal and LBJ's accession was a major turning point in Israel's fortunes, allowing them to become a regional superpower, enjoying almost unconditional financial and military support from the US ever since.

Also, the fact that Bloom was appointed to an official capacity by JFK doesn't exonerate him from suspicion, imo.

Agreed. But it does militate against involvement.

JFK also appointed Myer Feldman as his advisor--ostensibly as a reward to the Jewish lobby for its support of his 1960 campaign. However, RFK is on record as stating that Feldman's 'major interest was Israel rather than the US' (see Piper thread). Where Feldman's real loyalties lay is very much an open question and I believe Bloom might fall into the same category. It's clear to me that JFK was betrayed by those who had his confidence, as well as by those, like LBJ, who he kept at arm's length.

They do say, "keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer". :cheers

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The conspiracy is close to being unlocked. Israel, along with several other groups/individuals under suspicion won't be in the picture.

What a tantalizing remark, Greg. I am truly all ears. Can you say more?

Ron - thanks for posting the comment that refers to Bruno's story of how the day was arranged. Was Connally relaying orders - or acting independently - when he battled Bruno over the itinerary? As you point out, the former is possible - neverhteless, the discrepancy between Bruno's first hand narrative and Mike Piper's account is interesting.

It would be interesting to get a response from Piper on this.

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The conspiracy is close to being unlocked. Israel, along with several other groups/individuals under suspicion won't be in the picture.

What a tantalizing remark, Greg. I am truly all ears. Can you say more?

Sid, I'm all too aware of how many times this case has been closed; how many times the Fat Lady has entered stage right, only to throw a pie at the audience, so whilst I may end up satisfied it's the FINAL final solution, what I really want to see is legal closure. That is the ultimate aim, but whether or not it is achieved, I'm sure those involved will present the work in due course. Obviously I can't go into specifics but (just to tantalise you even further), there will be some surprises.

Ron - thanks for posting the comment that refers to Bruno's story of how the day was arranged. Was Connally relaying orders - or acting independently - when he battled Bruno over the itinerary? As you point out, the former is possible - neverhteless, the discrepancy between Bruno's first hand narrative and Mike Piper's account is interesting.

Not wishing to speak for Ron, but if I can add my 2.8 cents worth... Connally was who I had in mind when I said previously you need to look at which politicians were involved along with the CC. I do believe it had the last say in the matter. If for instance, Connally had pushed for the Womens Centre, the CC would have over-ruled. As it was, the Trade Mart suited both Connally and the CC - and for ostensibly similar reasons; it ensured a lockout of the Great Unwashed aka Yarborough supporters, and it gave great publicity to the still newish Trade Mart complex. As far as the PR (Bloom) side of things went - they could care less about security. That isn't what PR people are paid for.

It would be interesting to get a response from Piper on this.

Agreed.

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The conspiracy is close to being unlocked. Israel, along with several other groups/individuals under suspicion won't be in the picture.

What a tantalizing remark, Greg. I am truly all ears. Can you say more?

Sid, I'm all too aware of how many times this case has been closed; how many times the Fat Lady has entered stage right, only to throw a pie at the audience, so whilst I may end up satisfied it's the FINAL final solution, what I really want to see is legal closure. That is the ultimate aim, but whether or not it is achieved, I'm sure those involved will present the work in due course. Obviously I can't go into specifics but (just to tantalise you even further), there will be some surprises.

Ron - thanks for posting the comment that refers to Bruno's story of how the day was arranged. Was Connally relaying orders - or acting independently - when he battled Bruno over the itinerary? As you point out, the former is possible - neverhteless, the discrepancy between Bruno's first hand narrative and Mike Piper's account is interesting.

Not wishing to speak for Ron, but if I can add my 2.8 cents worth... Connally was who I had in mind when I said previously you need to look at which politicians were involved along with the CC. I do believe it had the last say in the matter. If for instance, Connally had pushed for the Womens Centre, the CC would have over-ruled. As it was, the Trade Mart suited both Connally and the CC - and for ostensibly similar reasons; it ensured a lockout of the Great Unwashed aka Yarborough supporters, and it gave great publicity to the still newish Trade Mart complex. As far as the PR (Bloom) side of things went - they could care less about security. That isn't what PR people are paid for.

It would be interesting to get a response from Piper on this.

Agreed.

Thanks Greg

All very interesting.

Without being unduly cynical, I don't expect the folk working on a Final Final Judgment (with closure) are short of funds if they really are onto something important that is as you report.

Mike Piper has a lot of folk believing that's he has pinned the tail on the donkey (including me).

There must be billions aplenty available to decisively prove him wrong.

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The conspiracy is close to being unlocked. Israel, along with several other groups/individuals under suspicion won't be in the picture.

What a tantalizing remark, Greg. I am truly all ears. Can you say more?

Sid, I'm all too aware of how many times this case has been closed; how many times the Fat Lady has entered stage right, only to throw a pie at the audience, so whilst I may end up satisfied it's the FINAL final solution, what I really want to see is legal closure. That is the ultimate aim, but whether or not it is achieved, I'm sure those involved will present the work in due course. Obviously I can't go into specifics but (just to tantalise you even further), there will be some surprises.

Ron - thanks for posting the comment that refers to Bruno's story of how the day was arranged. Was Connally relaying orders - or acting independently - when he battled Bruno over the itinerary? As you point out, the former is possible - neverhteless, the discrepancy between Bruno's first hand narrative and Mike Piper's account is interesting.

Not wishing to speak for Ron, but if I can add my 2.8 cents worth... Connally was who I had in mind when I said previously you need to look at which politicians were involved along with the CC. I do believe it had the last say in the matter. If for instance, Connally had pushed for the Womens Centre, the CC would have over-ruled. As it was, the Trade Mart suited both Connally and the CC - and for ostensibly similar reasons; it ensured a lockout of the Great Unwashed aka Yarborough supporters, and it gave great publicity to the still newish Trade Mart complex. As far as the PR (Bloom) side of things went - they could care less about security. That isn't what PR people are paid for.

It would be interesting to get a response from Piper on this.

Agreed.

Thanks Greg

All very interesting.

Without being unduly cynical, I don't expect the folk working on a Final Final Judgment (with closure) are short of funds if they really are onto something important that is as you report.

Mike Piper has a lot of folk believing that's he has pinned the tail on the donkey (including me).

There must be billions aplenty available to decisively prove him wrong.

Sid, consider people like Karen Silkwood and Erin Brokavich. I'm talking about ordinary people with ordinary occupations and debts - including a retired welder. No one is setting out to prove anyone wrong - and no one I'm talking about has the time or inclination to indulge in such nonsense. When it all comes out, you will of course, be free to continue supporting whatever theory you want, and maybe one day, you, me and Mark can get together over a beer and discuss it.

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Sid, consider people like Karen Silkwood and Erin Brokavich. I'm talking about ordinary people with ordinary occupations and debts - including a retired welder. No one is setting out to prove anyone wrong - and no one I'm talking about has the time or inclination to indulge in such nonsense. When it all comes out, you will of course, be free to continue supporting whatever theory you want, and maybe one day, you, me and Mark can get together over a beer and discuss it.

It's a deal. I don't know what 'nonsense' you're alluding to, but I'll be glad to shout the first round. The Lord Nelson in Kent Street has their own boutique brewery and serves pints of high quality (and high strength) ales.

'Admirals Blood' is my favorite. :)

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The conspiracy is close to being unlocked. Israel, along with several other groups/individuals under suspicion won't be in the picture.

What a tantalizing remark, Greg. I am truly all ears. Can you say more?

Sid, I'm all too aware of how many times this case has been closed; how many times the Fat Lady has entered stage right, only to throw a pie at the audience, so whilst I may end up satisfied it's the FINAL final solution, what I really want to see is legal closure. That is the ultimate aim, but whether or not it is achieved, I'm sure those involved will present the work in due course. Obviously I can't go into specifics but (just to tantalise you even further), there will be some surprises.

Ron - thanks for posting the comment that refers to Bruno's story of how the day was arranged. Was Connally relaying orders - or acting independently - when he battled Bruno over the itinerary? As you point out, the former is possible - neverhteless, the discrepancy between Bruno's first hand narrative and Mike Piper's account is interesting.

Not wishing to speak for Ron, but if I can add my 2.8 cents worth... Connally was who I had in mind when I said previously you need to look at which politicians were involved along with the CC. I do believe it had the last say in the matter. If for instance, Connally had pushed for the Womens Centre, the CC would have over-ruled. As it was, the Trade Mart suited both Connally and the CC - and for ostensibly similar reasons; it ensured a lockout of the Great Unwashed aka Yarborough supporters, and it gave great publicity to the still newish Trade Mart complex. As far as the PR (Bloom) side of things went - they could care less about security. That isn't what PR people are paid for.

It would be interesting to get a response from Piper on this.

Agreed.

Thanks Greg

All very interesting.

Without being unduly cynical, I don't expect the folk working on a Final Final Judgment (with closure) are short of funds if they really are onto something important that is as you report.

Mike Piper has a lot of folk believing that's he has pinned the tail on the donkey (including me).

There must be billions aplenty available to decisively prove him wrong.

Sid, consider people like Karen Silkwood and Erin Brokavich. I'm talking about ordinary people with ordinary occupations and debts - including a retired welder. No one is setting out to prove anyone wrong - and no one I'm talking about has the time or inclination to indulge in such nonsense. When it all comes out, you will of course, be free to continue supporting whatever theory you want, and maybe one day, you, me and Mark can get together over a beer and discuss it.

Convince me of your take on the JFK assassination, Greg and the drinks shall be on me.

I retain an open mind and would actually be relieved if you are correct, but I feel confident I shaln't be shouting you.

It's clear that other players were involved in the assassination of JFk and subsequent cover-up.

However, the Israel Lobby, to use Piper's term, is the tie that binds, IMO. It alone could pull together an internationally effective cover-up. It alone had the necessary pull in the mass media. It alone had ties to Angleton, Ruby, Shaw, Bloom and many others we pretty well know had key roles in a conscious conspiracy. It alone had sufficient influence within the US Government - including LBJ himself - to carry through the cover-up. It alone had a network of prominent journalists and other talking heads capable of steering attention away from its own role in the assasination for decades.

The Israel Lobby - along with the American MIC with which it is inextricably connected - benefitted from the assassination, in the short and long term. That's no accident, IMO.

The reasons why JFK was murdered still have massive political relevance. This explains why it is still such a hot topic, so heaviliy contested, with so many disniformationalists still involved.

To illustrate this point, I'd argue that the 'debate' about Iraq's WMDs, prior to 2003, that was the pretext for invasion by the USA, was a grotesque inversion of the 1960's reality faced by John Kennedy and the outcome of that contest of wills. (incidentally, this isn't a wholly original take; I recall Israel Shamir making a similar argument in around the time of the 2003 Iraq invasion).

Iraq 2003 and Israel 1963 - A Tale with Two Outcomes

Four Decades through the Looking Glass

Although Saddam Hussein had been sold tidbits in the past by western governments, he got rid of Iraqi WMDs in the 1960s as demanded by the UN. He had never been within a country mile of building nuclear weapons. The pre-invasion WMD story was bogus. Those orchestrating the war knew that very well.

By contrast, in the early 60s, Ben Gurion
was
actively pursung a policy of developing Israeli WMDs - biological, chemical and nuclear. The American Government suspected it. In retort, he maintained his WMD program and lied about it (along with his accolytes such as Simon Peres, who had the priviledge of meeting JFK personallyand lying directly to his face about Israel's nuclear intentions).

In the case of Iraq, the UN was used for the whole circus of mediating increasingly hysterical US demands and exasperated Iraqi responses. International inspection authorities were utilized. In other words, the saga was acted out in the glaze of publicity, although the process was corrupted. The UN Security Council, ultimately, was not convinced. Nevertheless, the USA attacked Iraq anyway.

Israel had been more furtunate. Discussions between the USA and the suspected nuclear-armed aspirant were kept top secret. Kennedy never pushed Israel in public. Hence few had any notion of what had been going behind the scenes until decades later - protecting Israel's secret
and
a key possible motive behind Kennedy's assassination from public knowledge until the horse had well and truly bolted.

In the case of Iraq, the Brits were actively involved (and implicated) in the propaganda show and the ensuing invasion. By contrast, Britain was kept entirely out of the loop, as far as I know, in Kennedy's negotiations with Israel over Israel's WMD program.

In the case of Saddam Hussein, his country’s invasion was followed by his own execution, following a show trial orchestrated by the victors,

Ben Gurion had much better luck. His angst of early 1963 appeared to dissipate - rather as though he had suffered a bad toothache, but the offending molar had been successfully extracted.

Kennedy, as we know, died a violent death (followed by no trial and a four-decade cover-up of the truth).

Dubya is alive – and makes a living out of killing.

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