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  1. Dear Moderators, I think it would be very helpful to add a thread title to the opening page that contains instructions for members on how to use the ignore function. You could place it at the top alongside How to Donate to the Site, and Membership Behavior, etc. Put it up there and then lock it down. Michael Clark provided instructions, but I'm afraid those will get lost in time as newer posts come online. That way, you leave it up to the individual user to decide who he or she wants to interact with. Steve Thomas
  2. The Future of the Education Forum

    Amen. Steve Thomas
  3. Bouhe and DeGolyer

    I guess I had no idea. From the WC testimony of George Bouhe: Mr. BOUHE - For 9 1/2 years I was employed as a personal accountant of a very prominent Dallas geologist, and probably capitalist if you want to say it, Lewis W, MacNaughton, senior chairman of the board of the well-known geological and engineering firm of DeGolyer & MacNaughton, but I was MacNaughton's personal employee. From: Everette Lee Degolyer, 1886-1956: A Biographical Memoir, by A. Roger Dension. National Academy of Sciences, 1959. http://www.nasonline.org/publications/biographical-memoirs/memoir-pdfs/degolyer-everette.pdf "He (DeGolyer) lived to be honored by the highest elective offices and to be awarded the highest decorations of the American Association ofPetroleum Geologists and the American Institute of Mining and Metallurgical Engineers. He was a lecturer much sought after, filled distinguished positions at three universities, and was awarded honorary degrees by six. Nine or more United States Government agencies,commissions, advisory boards, and committees called on him for service which he generously contributed.This combination logically made his advice much sought after in business, and he was for many years the world's leading oil consultant. The opinion of his firm, DeGolyer and MacNaughton, on an appraisal of the worth of a property or a company was accepted as final in financial and government circles the world around. This firm was at one time or another consultant to ten or more foreign governments on subjects ranging from organizing exploration programs to the proper price for oil F.O.B. tankers in the Persian Gulf." George Bouhe would play a prominent role in the life of Lee and Marina Oswald. Steve Thomas
  4. The Future of the Education Forum

    I have been involved in Internet communications for a long time – even before Windows was invented, and people were communicating in community bulletin boards using DOS. Haters (I won't use the “T” word) exist for one purpose; to steer the conversation so that it's about them, and not for whatever the discussion is about at the time. It doesn't matter what the Forum is about, or the form that it takes. The moment the Forum, or discussion group, or newsgroup or whatever changes so that the dialog becomes about him or her, and not about what the Forum was created for, the hater wins. You can't win against a hater, because they live for the combat. They thrive on it. The best you can do is not give it food. The alternative is to leave, which is a loss for everyone else because intellectual thought dies and all you are left with is desert sand. Steve Thomas
  5. The U.S. State Department was very concerned about the Russians sending false defectors to the United States by having their women marry foreigners, returning with these new husbands to their new home, and then divorcing them. Manufacturing a case for domestic abuse would certainly fall into this scenario. I've always been surprised by how fast Marina arranged to get away from Lee Oswald once they got back here to the U.S. They returned to the U.S. in June, and by September, was it?, she was living with someone else. In his WC testimony, George DeMohrenschildt said: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/demohr_g.htm Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. “Right from the very first day my wife told Marina, "You have to learn English, you have to be able to communicate, and especially since you do not get along with your husband and you are going to leave him some day--you have to be able to support your child and yourself. You have to learn English and start immediately on it." WC Testimony of Jeanne DeMohrenschildt http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/demohr_j.htm Mr. JENNER. Now, as I understand it, you met the Oswalds in the summer of 1962. Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. In the late summer. How would Jeanne DeMohrenschildt know in the late summer of 1962 that Marina was going to be leaving Lee unless Marina told her so? Steve Thomas
  6. Why I am leaving the forum

    I recently posted a thread asking people not to feed the trolls. I did not use any names. The thread disappeared within two hours. Steve Thomas
  7. "Mad doctors"? "throwing the body"? my, my, my. Texas didn't "want" to do the autopsy. They were required to. The Secret Service, sworn to uphold the law, broke it; and by doing so, broke the chain of evidence, creating 50 years of confusion. Steve Thomas
  8. Was there a period of time when the bronze casket was left alone at Parkland long enough for JFK's body to be witched to a shipping casket? I couldn't find one. As I said, " I was not able to find a time when Jackie left JFK's body long enough for a switch to be made at Parkland." But I wondered to myself if that's what the big fight in the hallway was all about. I wondered if the bronze casket was empty at that point. Steve Thomas
  9. David, I remember talking to you about this several years ago, and you convinced me that what I was talking about wasn't feasible, but I don't remember what you said. I was talking about the possibility of using the tunnels that Price talked about in his testimony and reports. I was not able to find a time when Jackie left JFK's body long enough for a switch to be made at Parkland. Here's what I posited back then: "I got to wondering where a "pink/grey" shipping casket may have come from. I mean, what does a hospital do when a person arrives DOA at a hospital, or dies during surgery, etc? Do hospitals keep a supply of caskets in storage or something? Dr. Price, Parkland Hospital Administrator was asked this. In his Warren Commission Price Exhibit 33, page 111 he wrote this: http://www.aarclibra...ice_Ex_2-35.pdf About this time a secret service man came to me and asked how we could move the president's body. He asked if we had a casket, a basket or anything that we could get to move the body immediately. I told him that we had nothing like that, but that we had several military installation nearby where we could get a casket, or we could get one from a local funeral director. He asked me to wait where I was, stating he would be back in just a minute,. I noticed that Steve had started out of the area with a secret service man and asked where he was going. He said to get a casket, and I told him to wait a minute as someone had just asked me about one and had asked that no further action be taken at that tine. Another man in the group who had been talking with Mrs. Kennedy and the other secret service agents near her came to me and asked that we get a casket of any kind from any place the quickest possible way. I then turned to Steve and relayed the request to him, and asked that he see what could be done about it. I don't know who this "other man in the group talking with Mrs. Kennedy" was. If you needed a "pinkish/grey" shipping casket similar to ones used to ship servicemen home from Vietnam, what better place to get one than from a military installation? Is this how the casket was removed? On page 110 of this Exhibit, Price wrote: While talking with Mrs. Nelson, one of the secret service men who had been bruised or had a minor injury came to me and asked if there were another way that the President and Mrs. Kennedy could be taken out of the building. I told him there was a tunnel exit and that if he would come with me, I would walk it off for him. I walked down to inspect the tunnel, then returned to the surgery area of the Emergency Room. (Does anyone know about a Secret Service man who had been bruised or had a minor injury?) While I was talking with him, (a Mr. Maher) another secret service man grabbed me by the arm and asked if I knew an alternate route the Johnson*s could use for an exit. I told him I had walked out an alternate route with another agent a few minutes ago and that if he would come with me, I would show him. We went to the Emergency Room elevator, one of the maintenance men was manually operating it and told him to take us to the basement.... I instructed the elevator operator to go to second (floor for an emergency delivery of blood),and then to take us on down to the basement. The secret service agent and I "ran" the alternate route, then when we got back to the Emergency Room area, he asked me to show him where the Johnsons were. While all the attention was on Air Force One, could the shipping casket have been placed on Air Force Two, or the C-130 military plane that took the limousine back to Washington? I would have to find the radio logs for Air Force Two or the cargo manifest for the C-130 to find out more." Do you happen to remember what you told me at the time? Steve Thomas
  10. Does everyone know what these pics are about?

    Don't overlook a common police interrogation technique. Treat all suspects as if they are guilty and force them to prove they are innocent. See the FBI interview of William Chambers. Captain Jones pulls him aside and instructs him that when interrogating the three tramps, "Find out which one shot the President". FBI 124-10179-10312 http://jfkassassinationfiles.com/fbi_124-10179-10312 page 2 That's the way Buell Wesley Frazier was treated. That's the way Joe Molina was treated. Steve Thomas
  11. Jim, I'm thinking about all of the ear witnesses who were asked to recreate the sounds of what they heard. Steve Thomas
  12. Captain Glenn D. King

    “Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology” Volume 53 Issue 1 March, 1962 Article 21 Spring 1962 Police Science Book Reviews FIRST-LINE SUPERVISOR'S MANUAL. Edited by Glenn D. King, Charles C Thomas, Publisher, Springfield, Illinois. 1961. https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=5081&context=jclc Page 3 of this pdf file Recognize the names of any of these contributors? (*smile*) Albuquerque Journal from Albuquerque, New Mexico · September 14, 1975 Page 2 https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/157051445/ "Jimmy Hoffa (the missing former teamsters president) saw the United States as a jungle and was going to get his share by hook or crook. That's how younger people see society." Glenn D. King, executive director of the police chief organization, said, "At the present time there is no effective deterrent to crime at all. There should be a social attitude against crime. In the past, there was a social stigma attached to crime, but we don't see much of that attitude now." - Only King suggested that,' the death penalty would help deter crime,' (Donald A, Byrd, former police chief in Dallas would serve as the police chief in Albuquerque, N.M. From 1971 – 1973.) small world huh? In 1963, Donald A. Byrd was the Lieutenant of the First Platoon 12:00AM to 8:00AM Shift, Patrol Division, Southwest Area Substation – where Tippit was killed and Oswald was captured.) https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf (M.N. McDonald, T.R. Gregory (who rode with McDonald that day,) J.D. Tippit, etc. all worked the Second Platoon, Patrol Division, Southwest Substation 8:00AM to 4:00PM shift) Steve Thomas
  13. Captain Glenn D. King

    Sorry, I juxtaposed his name; it's Thayer Waldo. See p. 590 of his WC testimony here: https://books.google.com/books?id=H7pFAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA590&lpg=PA590&dq="Glenn+King"+Dallas&source=bl&ots=q0nbG51TBB&sig=njbP76Hep4mc2Weavo5fCWdu3f4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwik8bfkne7ZAhVH4VMKHfc1Azo4HhDoAQgxMAI#v=onepage&q="Glenn King" Dallas&f=false Steve Thomas
  14. Captain Glenn D. King

    Bart, See page 4 of this statement by Waldo Thayer to Harold Weisberg. http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/W Disk/Waldo Thayer/Item 03.pdf The Mauser belonged to a guard on the roof of the TSBD. Steve Thomas
  15. Ron, It's funny. I was just thinking about this last night. I think JFK was hit four times. The first one from his left front (the drivers's side) that went through the windshield and hit him in the throat. The second one hit him in the upper back. The third and fourth ones hit him in the head - the first from the rear, and the second from the front. I think at least two missed. That's at least six shots with four hits. I'm not a scientist, so I'll probably get blasted too. Steve Thomas
  16. I always thought the Minox was a "spy" camera too, but ti turns out that it was a pretty common type camera. They were expensive, but not not unheard of. https://flashbackdallas.com/2017/12/07/newly-discovered-footage-of-jack-ruby-1960/ “He’s holding a Minox “spy” camera, which was an expensive tiny camera which had been sold for years in several stores in Dallas (and which was offered in classified ads in The News in 1960 for $75) — by the man’s look of utter fascination with it, it appears that it probably belonged to Ruby.” The man can be seen looking through it in the longer clip at the :50 mark.) (See one of the first Minox ads found in a Dallas paper — sold by Linz Jewelers in 1951 — here, and in the year of this footage, in 1960, in a Neiman-Marcus ad, here.)" The "suggestion" that it might belong to Ruby is intriguing. Classified ad for Minox camera with leather carrying case: $117.50 https://flashbackdallas.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/minox_linz-ad_1951.jpg Steve Thomas
  17. CIA/KGB combo?

    If the assassination of JFK was committed by disaffected elements of the CIA and KGB, is there any evidence of KGB officials or other Russian witnesses dying suddenly in the immediate aftermath of JFK's assassination? Steve Thomas
  18. These seem to be an FBI designation. Who decided where to file, or send these Reports? Who decided who these Reports would get routed to? For example: CD 1020 Lees Harvey Oswald Internal Security – Russia-Cuba Office: Miami CD 1021 Lee Harvey Oswald Internal Security-R Office: El Paso CD 1022 Lee Harvey Oswald Internal Security–R-Cuba Office: Los Angeles CD 1023 Lee Harvey Oswald Internal Security–Russia-Cuba Office: Okla. City CD 1026 Lee Harvey Oswald Internal Security-R-Cuba Office: Washington, D.C. CD 451 Lee Harvey Oswald Internal Security- R-Cuba Office: Washington D.C. (topic of this memo is Yuri Nosenko) 1. REPORT ON KRAMER, NAMAN, AND HYDE'S PICTURE TAKING IN MINSK. Record Number: 104-10003-10226 Record Series: JFK Agency: CIA Agency File No.: 201-289248 Originator: FBI From: ORTON, SA CHESTER C. To: FBI INTERNAL SECURITY - R - CUBA Date: 04/03/1964 Pages: 4 Subjects: MINSK-USSR; OSWALD IN MINSK; PHOTO OF MINSK; 2. INTERVIEW OF MARIE HYDE ABOUT HER TRIP TO MINSK. Record Number: 104-10003-10227 Record Series: JFK Agency: CIA Agency File No.: 201-289248 Originator: FBI From: LEWIS, SA GEORGE L., FBI To: FBI INTERNAL SECURITY - R - CUBA Date: 04/13/1964 Pages: 5 Subjects: HYDE; NAMAN; OSWALD IN MINSK In the Reports, the headings: The Internal Security - R, or Internal Security - R-Cuba is in the Character field. Did somebody say, "All Reports on Lee Harvey Oswald should go the Internal Security - R - Cuba desk, except these kinds of Reports which should go to the Internal Security - Russia desk?" And why would a memo about Yuri Nosenko go to the Internal Security-R-Cuba desk, or memos about Oswald in Minsk? Steve Thomas
  19. Ron, I'm glad you were able to secure a copy. Do your best to preserve it. Steve Thomas
  20. Internal Security Character:

    Posted by Robert Howard in the Education Forum 10/4/2005 http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/1919-bernardo-de-torres/?page=2 The Topic is Bernardo de Torres My note (SAS is Special Affairs Staff) "Also from Peter Dale Scott Deep Politics III (CIA, Drug Traffic & Oswald in Mexico) It is clear that throughout 1963, members like David Morales of the CIA’s Special Affairs Staff, designated to co-ordinate operations against Castro (including new assassination projects),... From about October 1 to October 9 (David Atlee) Phillips made a quick trip, authorized by the Special Affairs Staff, to Washington and then Miami.[193] On October 1 the Mexico City CIA station also sent a cable directing that a diplomatic pouch, sent on October 1 to Washington, should be held in the registry until picked up by “Michael C. Choaden” (i.e. Phillips) presently TDY (temporary duty) HQS.”[194][195] The date October 1 catches our eye, inasmuch as it is the date of the alleged Oswald-Kostikov intercept. One is also struck by Phillips’ presence in the Miami JMWAVE station from October 7-9. There are reports that Rosselli, who had good standing in the JMWAVE station, met on two occasions in Miami in early October with Jack Ruby.[196] Phillips’ trip coincides curiously with a significant change in the contents and handling of Oswald’s 201 file. Up to late September 1963, incoming documents about Oswald had been referred to the CI/OPS and SR/CI (Soviet Russia/Counterintelligence) desks.[197] But there was a new addressee for the next Oswald document, an FBI Report of September 24 from New Orleans about Oswald’s arrest in August 9 after distributing Fair Play for Cuba leaflets. This was “Austin Horn” of SAS/CI (replacing the usual SR/CI), whose name appears next to the date stamp “8 Oct 1963.” This exclusion of SR/CI, coupled with the initial exclusion of the report (entitled “Lee Harvey Oswald”) from Oswald’s 201 file, helps explain how an unwitting member of the SR/CI staff (Stefan Roll) could clear an outgoing cable that stated, falsely, that “Latest HDQS info [on Oswald] was ODACID [state Department] report dated May 1962 [!] saying ODACID had determined Oswald is still US citizen and both he and his Soviet wife have exit permits and Dept State had given approval for their travel with their infant child to USA.[198] Of the six officers responsible for drafting and signing this important cable, only one, Jane Roman of CI/LS (Counterintelligence/Liaison), had seen the incoming FBI report of September 24 that disproved their text. In Chapter III### we shall investigate the probability that this dishonest cable was part of a CIA/CI operation. Who was this “Austin Horn” who was privileged to see documents on Oswald denied to those who were drafting cables about him? We shall postpone to a later chapter the possibility, as yet still uncertain, that “Austin Horn” may in fact be David Phillips." Steve Thomas
  21. Where was Rip Robertson?

    Is this the same guy? Steve Thomas
  22. Pat, I agree with about 90% of what you said. But while I don't think the deflection of the Warren Commission was a CIA operation per se, I think the Garrison deflection definitely was. I think that's because Jim Garrison zeroed in on the CIA right off the bat. I liked your comment on the blue ribbon commission "designed not to get to the bottom of it" investigating the Russians. That made me smile. Steve Thomas
  23. Trygve, I looked into this several years ago. Please forgive me, I am just going by memory now. I didn't keep any notes. If I remember correctly, Charles Hodges and one or two classmates were working on a school project having to do with Kennedy's visit to Dallas (maybe for a Social Studies or current History class?). They took pictures at Love Field and again at Parkland Hospital. I think their story is connected to a story about a Secret Service Agent grabbing a camera from a teenager at Parkland and ripping the film out of it. You might be able to pull up references by running a search for Hodges in the Mary Ferrell Foundation website, or by searching for Hodges in this Forum's search engine. Steve Thomas
  24. Bill Hunter and Jim Koethe

    Michael, I don't know if these will help. The Press Telegram's web site has many individual contact email links. Independent Press-Telegram from Long Beach, California · Page 1 February 9, 1964 https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/24421461/ TOP HONOR FOR '3 DAYS IN DALLAS' / Four major awards were collected by The Independent, Press-Telegram Saturday in the Better Newspaper Contest of the California Newspaper Publishers Association. Awards were presented at a convention luncheon of the association at Corona do by Gov. Brown. The s p o t news award honored a special 16-page section titled "Three Days in Dallas," bringing to I, P-T readers t h e graphic drama of the chain of events touched off by t h e assassination of President Kennedy. The section represented on - the - scene reporting by police reporter Bill Hunter. The l a y o u t was designed and produced by Bryan Hodgson, photo editor. What’s Hot: Long Beach reporter Bill Hunter was in the midst of the JFK conspiracy By Long Beach Press Telegram | presstelegram@dfmdev.com | PUBLISHED: November 16, 2013 at 12:00 am | UPDATED: September 1, 2017 at 3:50 am https://www.presstelegram.com/2013/11/16/whats-hot-long-beach-reporter-bill-hunter-was-in-the-midst-of-the-jfk-conspiracy/ " Throughout his coverage, he never wrote anything about conspiracy, other than his assertion of the assuredness that Oswald killed Kennedy and Ruby killed Oswald (though in the latter case the shooting occurred in front of TV cameras and was seen by millions on American television)." Includes two photos: “The cop shop at LBPD HQ where reporter William Bradley “Bill” Hunter was shot and killed.” “ William Bradley “Bill” Hunter “ William Bradley "Bill" Hunter (November 2, 1928 - April 23, 1964)[1] was an American crime reporter for the Long Beach, California Independent Press-Telegram. Hunter's 16-page special on the assassination of John F. Kennedy and the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald by Jack Ruby, "Three Days in Dallas", was awarded the 1964 "spot news reporting" award of the California Newspaper Publishers Association's "Better Newspaper Contest".[2] 2. ↑ Independent Press-Telegram, February 9, 1964, TOP HONOR FOR '3 DAYS IN DALLAS' How to contact the Long Beach Press-Telegram Press-Telegram 727 Pine Ave. Long Beach, CA 90813 562-435-1161 https://www.presstelegram.com/contact-us/ Public Editor/Community Liaison Rich Archbold rarchbold@scng.com 562-499-1285 Twitter: @RichArchbold1 Steve Thomas
  25. Ron, When you get it, put it under lock and key in a climate controlled dark place. After 40 or 50 more years of being spoon fed Warren Commission propaganda, you can pull it out and tell people, "Here's what some other people were thinking about at the time." Like Pat said, "When one looks back on the history of this case, it's clear there was a window--from mid--66 to late 67--when the research community had a lot of supporters among the MSM." I know I'll always remember the Josiah Thompsons, and the Mark Lanes, and the Sylvia Meaghers. Steve Thomas