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  1. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    I don't know what to make of this because I am not an expert, but 76710292 is an eight digit number. According to this same website: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_number_(United_States_Armed_Forces) eight digit numbers between 70,000,000 and 90,000,000 were not issued. Steve Thomas
  2. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    On 10/20/17 I asked if RA-76710292 was a valid ID number. According to this web site: Service number (United States Armed Forces) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_number_(United_States_Armed_Forces) The RA is a prefix " Used by Regular Army enlisted personnel ". Steve Thomas
  3. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Tom, Thank you. I don't suppose you have foot note number 32 do you? You can see the FBI report in CD 788 here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11186#relPageId=4&tab=page It's interesting that these are memorandums of Dinkins' FBI interview, and not the interview itself, which is on a Form 302 isn't it? It says that on April 1st, Dinkin told "agents" of the FBI that... We don't know who those "agents" were. The reason I bring that up is that according to Lippincott (as told to Russell supposedly,) Dinkin was assigned to the 529th Ordnance Company; but according to the FBI (as told to them by Dinkin supposedly), he was assigned to the 599th Ordnance Group. Different animals altogether. I don't suppose you have a copy of the New Orleans research conference transcript as cited in footnote 34 do you? I'd like to know where that OAS business came from. One minute, Dinkin is intercepting NATO cable traffic (according to Redmon), and the next he's deciphering OAS "telegraph traffic" (according to Nagell). The inconsistencies abound. Steve Thomas
  4. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Paul, Thanks, Steve
  5. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Request for info: Could someone please reproduce page 555 of the book The Man Who Knew Too Much? or, reproduce CIA Cable No. 56631," dated November 7, 1963 from the Geneva Station to Washington? This is supposed to be the first alert on Dinkin. I tried searching the MFF by that cable number, but that didn't work for me. Thanks, Steve Thomas
  6. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Ray, In researching this topic, it was kind of fascinating to read the descriptions of the ordnance missions of the Civil War and WWI evolving to include the chemical weapons and nuclear weapons of the Cold War. It made me shudder. Steve Thomas
  7. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Gene, I agree. The writer could have meant the 599th Ordnance Company, or the 599th Field Artillery Battalion, or... Who knows? But were any units you ran across based in Metz, and had a cryptography or communication intercept component? More than anything else, the Dinkin story makes me think of a certain poster on this Forum who takes peoples' names and turns them into anagrams from which he spins all kinds of conspiracy ideas and goes on and on for pages on end. Steve Thomas
  8. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Gene, I hate you. Thank you for the picturesque backdrop of Metz. The rivers' wine country you paint of NE France sounds really beautiful. PS: I spent my teenage years, and a couple of years after college in Harrisburg. Steve Thomas
  9. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Mathias, I said, "Just as an aside, have you ever read any of Guerin Serac's writings? Some scary stuff there." And you said, "No, I haven't. Where can I find them?" Mostly what I've read is in references such as L'Orchestre Noir and in researching the "Strategy of Tension", Aginter Presse, and the Portugese P.I.D.E. You might be interested in this page: http://gmic.co.uk/topic/47128-yves-guillou-aka-yves-guerin-serac/ Somehow this guy was supposed to have obtained Serac's combat medals. See also this reference: http://libcom.org/book/export/html/36251 https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=n0uRAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA117&dq=%22The+others+have+laid+down+their+weapons#v=onepage&q=%22The%20others%20have%20laid%20down%20their%20weapons&f=false page 118. Steve Thomas
  10. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Jim, This may be a case of splitting fine hairs, but the O.A.S. was dissolved by Salan in 1962 and its remnants were folded into the C.N.R. (the Consèil de Resistance National). You might be interested in this document: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=64993#relPageId=3&tab=page It's case of; you say tomato and I say tomato, I think. Steve Thomas
  11. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Gene, I'm not trying to belabor the point, but an Armored Field Artillery Battalion and an Ordnance Group are horses of a different color - different missions, different chains of command. Again, I can find no record of, not any mention of a 599th Ordnance Group in any place I have looked outside of these references to Dinkin which repeat the same line in his "biography" over and over again. From what I can gather, during the Cold War, Metz was a gigantic supply depot. Steve Thomas
  12. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Gene, Boy do I envy you. I'll concede the point, although grudgingly. That whole French/German frontier has been fluid for hundreds of years. I still think it's kind of sloppy to refer to Metz as being German in a scholarly paper though. Metz had been French for over 300 years before the end of the Franco-Prussian War in 1871. Steve Thomas
  13. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Jim, Thank you for taking the time to respond. I see where the 599th Field Artillery Battalion was part of the 18th Artillery Group, but not the 599th Ordnance Group. I'm pretty sure these are different altogether. https://www.usarmygermany.com/Sont.htm?https&&&www.usarmygermany.com/Units/FieldArtillery/USAREUR_18th Arty Group.htm Steve Thomas
  14. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Mathias, I was going to mention Portugal in my response to Paul. Just as an aside, have you ever read any of Guerin Serac's writings? Some scary stuff there. Steve Thomas
  15. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Paul, I tend to agree with your theory in its broad outline, but I think I'd be a little careful with the Dinkin angle for a couple of reasons. And Jim DiEugenio, I'm sorry, but I don't find Ronald Redmon's article thorough at all for the same reasons. 1) Maybe my research has been sloppy, but I've tried in vain to find some record, or even mention of the "599th Ordnance Group" anywhere. My mind would be eased if someone could answer me the simple question, Who was the Commanding Officer of the 599th Ordnance Group? 2) Mr. Redmond's article says that "Regular Army Private First Class Dinkin was serving in Metz, Germany..." There is no Metz, Germany. Metz was occupied by the Germans from 1940-1944 and was liberated at the end of WWII. Metz is in France. 3) Redmond's article says, "Dinkin was transferred to the Army Depot in Metz, France, where his duties did not require a secret clearance." If Dinkin was already in Metz, how could he be transferred to Metz? 4) This web page: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=8407#relPageId=2&tab=page gives Dinkin's military ID number as: Serial number RA-76710292. Is this even a valid military ID? I didn't serve in the military, so I don't know. Do the armed forces issue military personnel, serial numbers? And/or numbers that start with RA? Has any armed forces veteran in this, or any other research forum ever tried to run this number through the National Archives or VA, or anywhere else? Paul I'd be a little careful with the OAS angle on this. For all intents and purposes, the OAS was splintered in 1962 following the Evian Peace Accords in March. They even disavowed any involvement in the Petit Clamart attack against DeGaulle in August of that year. Most of the leadership had been captured or killed by 1963, and the remaining members for the most part were scattered to the winds and became mercenaries in somebody else's wars. If Dinkin was intercepting OAS communications, I'd like to know whose traffic he was intercepting. I have never seen the product of what that communication was. How was it intercepted? Was somebody's phone tapped? Whose? Was it telegraph? Shortwave radio? What language was it in? English, French? German? Portugese? Is there any indication that Dinkin knew any of these? Needless to say, I'm pretty skeptical. Steve Thomas
  16. Has Trump Cut a Deal with the CIA and FBI to Keep Concealing Key JFK Assassination Documents? Plans for full disclosure by October 26 deadline are "in flux," says National Archives. By Jefferson Morley https://www.alternet.org/has-trump-cut-deal-cia-and-fbi-secret-jfk-records What Are They Hiding? Researchers for the Mary Farrell Foundation, which has the largest online repository of JFK assassination records, scraped the National Archives database of JFK records earlier this year. Our keyword analysis, published in Newsweek, yielded new insight into what the government is still concealing, including: Approximately 700 pages of secret material from the files of two high-ranking CIA officers, William K. Harvey and David Phillips, who ran assassination operations in the 1960s. Both men were open in their contempt for JFK's Cuba policy. The records of two undercover officers, Howard Hunt and David Morales, both of whom later made statements to family members that seemed to implicate themselves (and CIA personnel) in the murder of the liberal president in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. A transcript of the closed-door testimony of CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton to Senate investigators in September 1975. As I document in my forthcoming biography of Angleton, his staff monitored the movements of accused assassin Lee Oswald from November 1959 through November 1963. Steve Thomas
  17. Number of shots in Dealy Plaza?

    Michael, I can't speak to the number of shots, but for me, the best evidence for conspiracy has always been the number of shots that missed. Not the ones that hit, but the number that missed. Steve Thomas
  18. Number of shots in Dealy Plaza?

    Joe, I've always thought the first shot was from a .22, and that's why it was described as a "crack" as opposed to a "boom". I live in the country, and around this time of year (fall), a lot of guys around me are sighting in their rifles for the beginning of hunting season. You can definitely tell the difference. Steve Thomas
  19. If there was a conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy, I have been mulling over the question lately as to who paid for it. There would have been a lot of things to finance: the weapons, the assassins, food, lodging, transportation, fake id's, fake passports, etc. It seems like it is not enough to just say that JFK's assassination was a classic military-style ambush with triangulation of fire. The assassination attempt against Charles DeGaulle at Petit-Clamart in 1962 involved military people too, and look at how amateurish that was with people blasting away with tommy submachine guns to no avail. JFK researchers spend a lot of time talking about the trajectory of shots, and film alteration, and who had the most compelling motive, but I don't see much of how the hit was paid for. There's the old adage of “follow the money”, but in this case I don't think you are going to find a lot of cancelled checks lying around. You have to kind of reverse engineer the whole question, and ask, who had that kind of money to spend. For what it's woth, I'll toss this out: My money (if you'll excuse the pun) is on those people interested in exploiting the natural resources (particularly oil and natural gas) of the Central Asian land mass that forms the bridge between the Middle East and China; more colloquially known as Eurasia. I have read three things lately that are shaping my thinking right now: 1) Peter Dale Scott COPA Conference 11/24/2010 http://archive.politicalassassinations.net/2010/11/peter-dale-scott-the-jfk-assassination-as-an-engineered-provocation-deception-plot/ “(Jack) Crichton, an oil engineer and corporation executive, also doubled as a member of the Dallas overworld. Although his 488th intelligence unit consisted almost 50 percent of Dallas policemen, Crichton also used it as a venue in the late 1950s to conduct “a study of Soviet oil fields;” and in the 1990s Crichton would himself explore the oil and gas reserves in the former Soviet Union. Also interested in Soviet oil reserves at this time were Ilya Mamantov’s employers and personal friends, the wealthy Pew family in Dallas who were owners of Sunoco. By 2009 the second largest source of crude for Sunoco (after Western Africa) was Central Asia, supplying 86,000 barrels of crude a day.” 2) https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-298-gladio-b-and-the-battle-for-eurasia/ “But more important even than its location and strategic value are the region’s vast, largely untapped resources. The oil and gas fields of the Caspian Sea region are particularly sought after, containing the third-largest reserves of any fields on the planet. Azerbaijan in the Caucasus and Kazakhstan in Central Asia both have direct access to Caspian Sea oil, with Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan providing ample gas reserves. The dream of a Trans-Caspian pipeline has been in the works for years now to transport Central Asian reserves across to the Southern Caucasus and the so-called “BTC” pipeline funneling the energy through Azerbaijan and Georgia to Turkey has been equally prized as a way for Europe to find an alternative to Russia’s increasingly-threatening stranglehold over energy known as Gazprom. The region also contains strategically important deposits of uranium as well as industrially useful minerals including copper, manganese, turngsten and zinc. As one example of this interest, I present to you the U.S.-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce, an organization that sounds about as important to global geopolitics as the Groningen Chamber of Commerce. But look at its list of current and former advisors, chairmen and directors: former Vice President Dick Cheney, Bush family advisor James Baker III and his son James Baker IV, Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft, Richard Armitage and, of course, former National Security Advisor and perennial Washington insider Zbigniew Brzezinski. This Chamber of Commerce boasts some of the most influential figures in US foreign policy in the past half century amongst its ranks. What is it they see that the general public doesn’t? In 1904 the Geographical Journal published an article that articulated the reason that these great powers were engaged in the struggle for this piece of the globe. The article was called “The Geographical Pivot of History” and was written by Sir Halford John Mackinder PC, the Director of the London School of Economics... The Geographical Pivot of History” is the document that is often said to be the founding document of geopolitics and constitutes the first formulation of what would come to be called the “Heartland Theory.” “Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland; Who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island; Who rules the World-Island commands the World.” Looking at the map of what Mackinder had in mind for the Heartland it’s apparent that the “heart” of this Heartland is indeed the Central Asia-Caucasus region.” 3) https://theintercept.com/2017/07/22/donald-trump-and-the-coming-fall-of-american-empire/ In the Shadows of the American Century: The Rise and Decline of US Global Power Paperback– September 15, 2017 by Alfred W. MCCoy (Author) “One of the key things that I think very few people understand, after World War II, the United States became the first world power, the first empire in a 1000 years to control both ends of the vast Eurasian continent. Now Eurasia, that enormous landmass, is the epicenter of world power. It’s got the resources, the people, the civilizations that—you’ve got to control that to control the world. And the United States, through the NATO alliance in Western Europe and a string of alliances along the Pacific littoral with Japan, South Korea, the Philippines and Australia, controlled the axial ends of the Eurasian landmass.” By the end of the Cold War we have about 800 overseas military bases. Most of those were arrayed around the Eurasian landmass.” I would encourage everyone to read numbers 2 and 3. They were a real eye opener for me anyway. I think JFK was killed because he believed in self determination, and allowing smaller nation states to have control over their own natural resources. The powers that be couldn't allow that. Steve Thomas
  20. Who financed the JFK hit?

    Echoes from the past. https://www.alternet.org/human-rights/profiting-americas-longest-war-trump-seeks-exploit-mineral-wealth-afghanistan " Afghanistan’s deposits of iron, copper, zinc, gold, silver, lithium and other rare-earth metals are estimated to be worth roughly $1 trillion, a price tag which has intrigued the business mogul-turned-President Trump. " Steve Thomas
  21. Karl, Here's what I wrote on another thread: "I indexed those files back in 2008. You can see them here: New Dallas Documents Online http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/12338-new-dallas-documents-online/ Back then I urged them to donate the material to the Mary Ferrell site where they would be keyword searchable, but to no avail. The Dallas Morning News url link doesn't work anymore - they took it down. Sigh." Steve Thomas
  22. Eugene Dinkin.

    Paul, I'm sorry, but I still think I'm with Larry Hancock on this. I'd like to see what unit Dinkin was supposed to be with and what his Military Occupational Specialty was supposed to be. For one thing, Dinkin was a private. From what I've read, privates don't do analysis. They might do intercepts, but they would forward that intercepted raw data on to someone else to do the analysis. And what "cable traffic" was Dinkin supposed to have intercepted? Shortwave radio? telegraph? Morse Code? Is there any indication in Dinkin's military record that he knew any of that? Look at the post by Thomas Graves on page 2 of this thread. Quote: " The Mary Ferrell website says that Dinkin was trained by the Army to be a "cryptographic code operator." "FWIW, "Cryptographic Code Operator" is not listed in this (unofficial) list of Vietnam War - era Army MOSes. http://ed-thelen.org/MOS-Vietnam-era.html Nor is it to be found in this list of Army MOSes from 1950: http://militaryyearbookproject.com/references/old-mos-codes/korean-war-era/army-mos-codes-korean-war-era" You might also want to look through the references that Peter Lemkin compiled in the Deep Politics Forum here: "Much needed bump and a bit 'o other details" https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?5734-The-strange-tale-of-eugene-dinkin-PRE-KNOWLEDGE#.WdMy-8ZryM8 10-05-2013, 02:15 PM DINKIN: DOB: 6/10/38. POB: Chicago, IL. US Army personnel in Metz said Dinkin first predicted JFK to be assassinated 11/28/63 and then changed it to 11/22/63. U.S. Army PFC, Serial # RA 76710292. Received discharge from US Army after 4 months detention for psychological testing. (See DINKINS) # RA 76710292, left his unit in Metz on 4 Nov 1963, day he was scheduled for psychiatric exam. Turned up in Geneva Nov 6-7 in Press Room of United Nations office. Told reporters he was being persecuted. (See DINKIN) CD 321-b,p.5, CIA 227-648, CD 788; CD 943; CD 1107, pp. 354-362; CIA 19-530; CIA 22-531; CIA 121-53; CIA 227-648 (re-released as JFK 104-10015-10231 , Lifton's pp. 134-137); CIA 699-305; JFK Collection List, pg. 41 (AMKW 79); Kennedy Conspiracy, Flammonde, p. 162; The Man Who Knew Too Much, Russell, pp. 553-557; 104-10400-10041 ; 104-10400-10042 ; 104-10400-10043 I'd like to see Dinkin's military service record. Steve Thomas
  23. Eugene Dinkin.

    Larry, Thanks for bringing this up. If you go back to the first page of this thread, Lisa Pease posted: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/7078-eugene-dinkin/ “On April 1, 1964, Mr. Eugen B. Dinkin, ... advised Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation that he had been recently discharged from the United States Army...” “Dinkin advised that he had been in trouble with the officers of his military group, the 599th Ordnance Group stationed in Germany, due to his refusal to purchase United States savings bonds.” “As a result of his opposition to the bond purchases, according to Dinkin, he was removed from his position in the code section and transferred to an Army Depot at Metz, France.” I've looked, and there ain't no animal called the "599th Ordnance Group" I've run across references to 599th Battalions, and Companies, but no such thing as an Ordnance Group. Army Groups aren't set up that way. And, as for me, I'm finding it hard to understand how somebody involved in depot and ordnance work could be involved in cryptography. Steve Thomas
  24. Mr. Caddy, Thank you for referencing this. I will read it closely. Without minimalizing or detracting from what you are directing people to, I was fascinated by the html coding of your referenced lead. I had never seen that before. Steve Thomas
  25. The Three Prior Plots to kill JFK

    Joe, As you put it, Willie Somersett asked the essential question: SOMERSETT: “Well how in the hell do you figure would be the best way to get him”? That's it in a nutshell. The way I see it, is that the people who conceived the idea, were not the same people who planned it. The people who planned it were not the same people who carried it out. The people who carried it out were not the same people who covered it up. I think Oliver Stone had it right in the basic outline. JFK's assassination was conceived by a cabal consisting of a military guy, a mob guy, a military-industrial guy and a spy guy at a minimum. You had a small group of men sitting in the cigar-smoke filled den of somebody's home, or the private dining room of the Navy Club or whatever, and somebody says, “That sum-a-bitch Kennedy has got to go”. And the group says, “Hear, hear”. And somebody in the group turns to the military guy and asks, “General, you kill people for a living. What do you think would be the best way to carry it out”? And the military guy says, “If I wanted to ensure success, I'd set up enfilading fields of fire, and with a crossfire, hit him from the front and the back, and the side so that there would be no chance of escape”. And somebody turns to the mob guy and says, “You take contracts out on people all the time. Do you have any killers out there who could pull it off”? And the mob guy says, “Yeah, we got a stable full of guys. I could bring in some people from out of town, and maybe even from out of the country. And somebody in the group says, “Well, if they're from out of town, they're not going to be familiar with the territory. And the military guys says, “I know some people from the local Army Reserve down there who could help with transportation, and lodging and escape routes and stuff”. And somebody in the group says, “That's going to cost a lot of money, what with the contract, and all the arrangements. And the military-industrial guy says, “I can take care of that – maybe even pay them off in heroin so there's no paper trail. And the mob guy says, “I could do that too.” And somebody in the group turns to the spy guy and asks, “Secret Agent man, you deal in smoke and mirrors for a living, how could it be done so that it couldn't be traced back to us?” And the spy guy says, “Don't worry. There are so many people out there with a grudge against Kennedy that I'll plant so many false leads leading back to the mafia, and the anti-Castro people and so on, that people will be chasing their tails for years. We've also got ways to finger some poor dumb schmuck to take the fall.” And somebody says, “Yeah, but we've also got to screw up the physical evidence and the body.” And (probably the military guy) says, “I can do that with my local contacts down there, and make sure we have control of the autopsy.” And everything is compartmentalized that no single person knows the full extent of the plot, only their small part of it. The group decides to execute this plan when JFK is out of town and decides on several opportunities, Chicago, Miami and Dallas. Anyway, that's my take on it. Steve Thomas
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