JFK was on the trailing curve to prevent this?

[Jim Phelps]

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Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 predicting Insiders plans to destroy America

Uploaded by NYredwhiteandblue on Apr 27, 2009

Proof that the NEW WORLD ORDER has been planned by the elite. Robert Welch, Founder of The John Birch Society, predicted today's problems with uncanny accuracy back in 1958 and prescribed solutions in 1974 that are very similar to Ron Paul's positions today. This is proof that there are plans in place by the elite to systemically disassemble US sovereignty. I wonder who those elite are.

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This same basic discription appears in what appears to be well over a thousand Internet hits for a seach on this topic, so literally thousands of others associate this speech to 1958 and the assimilated information was on the table at that time.

Edited August 6, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

So tell us Mr. Hogan, if your really watched this video, what is spelled out on the screen at "35 seconds" of play time.

You intentionally leave this out. Is there some deceptive reason for this? Is this more of your Deceit games, or did you fall asleep at this early part of the video?

It is clear that you don't want to admit the obvious, that this was a 1958 speech by Welch.

Here is what the video tells at 35 seconds:

"In his first speech Welch Quotes from himself the 1958 JBS founding meeting about insider's long-range plans."

Thus, this speech was given in 1958 and these are his quotations of that 1958 Speech. So, this has been rattling around the circles of JBS, LDS, the FBI, all the McCarthy types, and likely right into RFK's ears and attention as he worked with McCarthy for a time. By the time the Kennedy's hit office and ran into Walker they'd all know what Welch was about and about this 1958 speech.

So, it is logical to ask if JFK learned of this 1958 Welch Speech and Paid attention. Obviously, he either paid attention or just knew it outright without Welch's help. JFK also knew the cental problem wasn't the Communists, as they were the tool of a bigger plan.

So, tell us why you are not argueing with all of the YouTube and other listings that make the very same 1958 observations as the one listed here, and how that makes you look utterly wanting for simple logic.

Admit you fell asleep on this part, else you are up to trying to deceive that JFK could not learn of this Speech from 1958.

You JFK Heaven non-sense, is pure illogical non-sense.

Go away.

Stay awake and watch the video next time. Do a Google seach and find thousands of people agree with the information being on the table in 1958 originating from Welch and the common theme of all his Echo group.

Edited August 6, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[John Dolva]

So tell us Mr. Hogan, if your really watched this video, what is spelled out on the screen at "35 seconds" of play time.

You intentionally leave this out. Is there some deceptive reason for this? Is this more of your Deceit games, or did you fall asleep at this early part of the video?

It is clear that you don't want to admit the obvious, that this was a 1958 speech by Welch.

Here is what the video tells at 35 seconds:

"In his first speech Welch Quotes from himself the 1958 JBS founding meeting about insider's long-range plans."

Thus, this speech was given in 1958 and these are his quotations of that 1958 Speech. So, this has been rattling around the circles of JBS, LDS, the FBI, all the McCarthy types, and likely right into RFK's ears and attention as he worked with McCarthy for a time. By the time the Kennedy's hit office and ran into Walker they'd all know what Welch was about and about this 1958 speech.

So, it is logical to ask if JFK learned of this 1958 Welch Speech and Paid attention. Obviously, he either paid attention or just knew it outright without Welch's help. JFK also knew the cental problem wasn't the Communists, as they were the tool of a bigger plan.

So, tell us why you are not argueing with all of the YouTube and other listings that make the very same 1958 observations as the one listed here, and how that makes you look utterly wanting for simple logic.

Admit you fell asleep on this part, else you are up to trying to deceive that JFK could not learn of this Speech from 1958.

You JFK Heaven non-sense, is pure illogical non-sense.

Go away.

Stay awake and watch the video next time.

I wouldn't automatically assume anything without knowing ( afaik the founding meeting of the jbs was attended by many (Harry?) ) the overall context in which these particular words were according to Welsh in 1974 were spoken.

[Jim Phelps]

So tell us Mr. Hogan, if your really watched this video, what is spelled out on the screen at "35 seconds" of play time.

You intentionally leave this out. Is there some deceptive reason for this? Is this more of your Deceit games, or did you fall asleep at this early part of the video?

It is clear that you don't want to admit the obvious, that this was a 1958 speech by Welch.

Here is what the video tells at 35 seconds:

"In his first speech Welch Quotes from himself the 1958 JBS founding meeting about insider's long-range plans."

Thus, this speech was given in 1958 and these are his quotations of that 1958 Speech. So, this has been rattling around the circles of JBS, LDS, the FBI, all the McCarthy types, and likely right into RFK's ears and attention as he worked with McCarthy for a time. By the time the Kennedy's hit office and ran into Walker they'd all know what Welch was about and about this 1958 speech.

So, it is logical to ask if JFK learned of this 1958 Welch Speech and Paid attention. Obviously, he either paid attention or just knew it outright without Welch's help. JFK also knew the cental problem wasn't the Communists, as they were the tool of a bigger plan.

So, tell us why you are not argueing with all of the YouTube and other listings that make the very same 1958 observations as the one listed here, and how that makes you look utterly wanting for simple logic.

Admit you fell asleep on this part, else you are up to trying to deceive that JFK could not learn of this Speech from 1958.

You JFK Heaven non-sense, is pure illogical non-sense.

Go away.

Stay awake and watch the video next time.

I wouldn't automatically assume anything without knowing ( afaik the founding meeting of the jbs was attended by many (Harry?) ) the overall context in which these particular words were according to Welsh in 1974 were spoken.

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The overall concensus, on the Internet, is the content of this speech stemmed directly from his original speech in 1958, so those concepts had been put on the table in 1958 for their like anti-Communist followers or the Welch sympathtic Echos of this period.

Certainly, well over a thousand web pages from Google searches on this all turn up this information was on the table in 1958. Which appears part and parcel as to their collective concerns that this was all known in 1958. It says so in all the discriptions.

It was such an impressive speech that it kicked off the JBS, so Welch's 1958 words would became a large part of the JBS recruitment message. He still likes the message so much, he gives the same in latter years. Thus, Especially to associate, the FBI took interest in what made the JBS and Welch tick, so all that would have been pulled out via investigations and leakers.

JFK certainly took a dim image of the JBS via Walker tossing out the Welch theme to the guys in Europe and attempting to directly interfere with the Commander and Chief and the Foreign Policy. So, I'd have to reasonably expect and conclude that the Kennedys would have been exposed to this and it was a large part of what JFK was battling to promote Peace over these fear mongering Drums for War.

RFK certainly bought into this stuff for a long time, but then pulled away from McCarthy and this Ilk. Part of the problem was RFK still remained a little too connected to this old group of paranoia promoters.

Edited August 6, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

"Telling the Truth" appears to have become a little complex in the times of the late 50s and 60s as the two factions of Extreme Wealth and Socialist Agenda's fought a war for the minds of men of these days.

"Telling the Truth" in these times was also about abduction of the truth of the church, as the Essene Message of Jesus tells a story that doesn't like the Royalist's agenda. Jesus and his Essene were good stewards for the environment and was a service to mankind without expectation of vast wealth in return. Even the values of Jesus and the Essene have become a casulty of this war between the Extreme Royalists and the Socialists resistance to this Oligarcic and Fascist like dominance. JFK's theme of a Rising Tide Lifts All Boats would fit the Essene and Jesus beliefs well, and the rest of his actions speak well to someone that followed those beliefs. But, JFK was killed for doing those right things and following in the footsteps of the Essene and Jesus like values. So corrupted was the Church in the US in these times that I has litterally shot Jesus and left his true values for dead.

Only in these latter times has the truth begun to appear as the Soviets adopted the JFK theme of "Waging Peace", so as not to play into the Capitalist's Extremes of robbing American's Freedoms and exploitation of their money and resources to promote wars for the Royalist's Riches.

In 20/20 hindsight these days, the history for the failure of the Eastern Roman Empire due to these like Factors of today tells us the days for the US are short and numbered unless we find these truth and not the propaganda games of those with greed for money, power, and control.

JFK found the truths, and he was doing something about them. And "We The People" need to back our fallen Hero, JFK, fixes, or watch our country die also.

A little bit better Bio on Welch and the JBS:

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http://www1.appstate.edu/~clarkne/socm/bios/birch.htm

Timeline

Dec 1, 1899 It was on this date that Robert Welch, the future founder of The John Birch Society was born. Welch was born into a family that is known for its farmers and Baptist preachers. It was a time when self-reliance, moral uprightness, good manners, respect for hard work, and integrity were the standards Americans held. Welch was reared into these characteristics and never forgot them, no matter the circumstances, especially honesty/integrity. Welch always said, "most of the ills of the world would disappear if people would just start telling the truth." He was home schooled for the first part of his life - this began when he was a mere two years old. At the age of three he was capable of not only reading, but reading well. By the age of four he had memorized his multiplications, and had a firm grasp of algebra by the age of six. At seven he had a desire to study Latin and read the nine volumes of John Clark Ridpath's History of the World. I t was these writings by Ridpath that helped mold Welch into the Americanist that he became. Welch then entered high school at the unusual age of ten, followed by the University of North Carolina at age 12. Welch performed amazingly, graduating from UNC in the top third of his class at 16 years of age. Following UNC he quenched his curiosity for law, for the next two and a half years, at Harvard's Law school. Needless to say, Robert Welch was a very educated individual.

1918 It was on this date in which the world would never be the same - John Birch was born. He came from a spiritual background with both of his parents being missionaries. John was the eldest of his siblings and at an early age showed great potential to be a leader. Not only was he intellectually sharp be he also had a firm grasp of the Christian faith. It was at the age of eleven in which while speaking to his pastor said that he wished to answer the call to the ministry - specifically the mission field. Not only did he know what he was going to do with his life, but he knew where he was to go as well. After hearing about Chinese communists killing missionaries he knew all too well where he was heading. He said, "I know the big enemy is communism, but the Lord has called me. My life is in His hands, and I am not turning back." Birch later attended Mercer University and really excelled graduating with the honor of magna cum laude. Despite that fact that he had achieved excellence while in school he never forgot his dream of reaching out to China.

1939 It was now, at age 21, that John finally leaves home for China. Japan is invading China as Birch is arriving. At this point these two countries have been at war with for the past three years. After arriving in China and learning the language John was fearless in his attempt to share the gospel with the Chinese, not even a major war was going to stand in his way. Quite frequently, though, his mission was put on pause due to malaria, but because he was in such profound physical condition it never stopped him for long. Japan's attack was getting more and more ruthless, so the State Department ordered all missionaries out of China. One problem� John refused to go. John had developed countless relationships with the Chinese and was adored by many. He was finally making an impact and now was ordered to leave - no way. He was determined to some how find a way to stay. At this point the US is about to enter the war, but being a clergyman meant he was exempt from the draft. His only resort was to volunteer. He was no pacifist, and felt that if he was to continue his greater cause of delivering the message to the people of China then he was going to have to take advantage of the opportunity at hand. That opportunity being joining the US military and getting sent back over seas to China with the rest of our troops to aid the Chinese in their effort to fight off the Japanese. Birch then happens to be at the right place at the right time. He accidentally rescued General James Doolittle. From this point Birch was appointed head over General Claire Chennault's "intelligence department" - with the permission to preach whenever he had the opportunity. It was General Chennault's 14th Air Force that Birch was the intelligence for - known as the Flying Tigers. Birch was the "eyes" of the outfit. He lead downed airmen to safety. He was nothing short of brilliant, and due to his courage and unparalleled ability to lead he was promoted to Captain.

Aug. 14, 1945 The war has officially ended, but communists were taking over the defeated Japanese bases and airfields.

Aug. 25, 1945 In an attempt to stop the communist take-over Captain Birch and a band of eleven are sent out to claim one of the bases in Suchow, Japan. Birch and his group was stopped along the way to Suchow by a group of Chinese communists. Birch and his Chinese aide got separated from the rest of the group. After given the order to disarm Birch, his aide tried to stop them. The aide's actions got he and Birch shot in the leg as a means of stopping their revolt. From here Birch's ankles were bound and he was forced to kneel in preparation for his demise. He was shot in the back of his head - execution style - and his face has smashed with the butt's of their guns. The aide was also beaten and left for dead. The aide lived though, to tell the magnificent story of John Birch. The story of John Birch and his murder were stamped Top Secret and placed under lock and key. However, the story that was told to Birch's parents read like this, "There was a clash between Chinese Central Government forces and irregular Chinese troops and your son was struck by a stray bullet� his death was instantaneous and without pain."

1950 Robert Welch, a candy manufacture, read a speech by a politician - Senator William Knowland - that talked about the cover-up of John Birch's murder, as well as the cover-up of the idea of the US government destroying our friends in China to bring into power our enemies the Communist Chinese. It is due to this moving speech that will, in eight years from now, touch Robert Welch and inspire him to name his anti-Communist freedom organization in honor of Captain Birch - The John Birch Society.

July/Aug. 1951 Welch begins to write his first major political work, May God Forgive Us, which deals with his analysis of post World War II disasters. Some of these disasters include: the loss of Eastern Europe and of China to the Communist Bloc, the widespread influence of various leftist organizations in accomplishing these victories for communism, spot-lighting government agencies that had been subverted by communist agents, and also on individuals who used their positions of power and prestige to change the direction of American policy. Welch also talks about the indifference and complacency of Americans and how that is a huge problem. The answer according to Welch is simply education.

1952 The publication of May God Forgive Us. This book began simply as a rather extensive letter Welch planned on sending to a few friends. He sent three copies out and in no time he had requests for more copies. Before all is said and done, Welch ends up publishing this letter and distributing tens of thousands of copies all over the world. Welch also expresses intense shame for his country and deep distress that, "the land of the free and home of the brave" was being undermined and used to betray innocent people as well as our foundation or Western culture: "The real trouble is callousness throughout the whole mood and the collective conscience of the American people. How can we expect either a Roosevelt or Truman to have been disturbed by the barbarous Katyn Massacre, or to have reduced for that reason their pampering appeasement and generosity to it's perpetrators? The news of a similar mass murder, of eight thousand of our own sons and brothers, as prisoners of war behind the Koreans lines, caused only a temporary ripple of indignation across the international consciousness; and we go serenely on negotiating with, and making new concessions to, the cold-blooded murders." "As we sit in our warm homes, after a happy meal with our families, and turn on our television sets or radios, it is hard for us to think of a man just like ourselves always half-starved, always half-frozen, haggard and hopeless, remember the days when he too was free, as he is brutally driven to finish up the literal exhaustion of his body in labor for the benefit of the very tyrant who has enslaved him. It is harder still to remember that there are millions of such men; or that in the past six years six hundred million of our fellow human beings have been placed under the merciless heel of this monster and the bestial control of his henchman and police." "For the pusillanimous part that we played in all this spreading horror; for our indifference to the grief of others; for our apathy to the crimes we saw and our blindness to those we should have seen; for our gullibility in the acceptance of veneered treason and our easy forgetfulness even when the veneer rubbed off; for all our witting and unwitting help to the vicious savages of the Kremlin and to their fellow ordinate savages everywhere, may God - and our fellow men -some day forgive us!" In other words, Welch is crying out to the American people asking them to recognize what is happening and to start caring about it. He also discusses the sheer dominance and control that Communism has over a nation. He finishes by asking forgiveness from and for his fellow Americans for all the indifference and complacency. Here is where Welch displays his true love for his country.

Jan. 1, 1957 Welch changes his life's purpose from that of a business man to that of a "conspirator squasher". It is at this time that he devotes the majority of his time to the anti-Communist cause and ultimately his new freedom organization.

Dec.1, 1958 It is now that Welch established The John Birch Society. Welch was very impressed with who John Birch was. It was said that John Birch's last words were, "It doesn't matter what happens to me. But it is of utmost importance that my country learn now whether these people are friend or foe." It was these words that struck Welch that this guy was truly sincere about coming against Communism and restoring America and the world back to "the way it use to be." Not only this but to achieve a goal great as this there must also be great sacrifice. Welch saw Birch's whole life as a sacrifice. The selflessness that Birch displayed was commendable and deserved to have his name live on.

Feb. 1959 Welch and The John Birch Society release a story in Welch's American Opinion, which was already painfully obvious, that Fidel Castro was a Communist. Welch is quoted by saying, "If you have any doubt that Castro is a Communist, don't. If he is successful, time will clearly reveal that he is an agent of the Kremlin." Welch is quoted in the American Opinion saying, "the fact that Castro was, and all of his adult life had been, a vicious, lying, brutal, murdering Communist."

April 1959 There was a movement by the United Nations (UN) to have all major departments stores across the country remove all their conventional Christmas decorations and replace them with decorations with the UN insignia on them. This was shaping up to be the beginning of the one-world government. But due to great letters of opposition written by people from The John Birch Society (JBS) to the heads of department stores, this movement made by the UN die out within a year.

May 1959 Around the same time as the UN uproar, the JBS organized a protest, with Robert Welch as chairman, to come against the meeting of Eisenhower and Krushchev. To not allow this to occur JBS ran full-page ad's and put them in all the major newspaper in hopes that Eisenhower would get some bad press and wouldn't go to Moscow. It worked perfectly; Eisenhower called off his trip.

Oct. 1959 The JBS pulled together to rally Congress to stop supplying foreign aid, especially to countries that are Communist. Because of the massive resistance to the Communist Party, they (communists) tried to have the anti-Communists groups disassembled. Their efforts were thwarted though. This was a big victory for "good guys."

1960 Because the anti-Communist organizations were having such a huge impact on Communist interaction the Communist leaders (80+ nations) met in Moscow to wage "resolute struggles against anti-Communism."

Feb. 25, 1961 This enormous attack from the Communists focused on defamatory attacks against The JBS and sought to ruin their reputation and credibility. The Communists accused The JBS of being racists, anti-Semitists, fascists, Nazis, Ku Klux Klan, and more. Individuals were labeled paranoids, extremists, radicals, super-patriots, hate mongers, subversives, lunatics, and fanatics. This was anticipated by Welch, he knew that the Communists would resort to such behaviors quoted by a report saying, "(Communist Party) Members and front organizations must continually embarrass, discredit, and degrade our critics� When obstructionists become too irritating, label them as fascist or Nazi or anti-Semitic� Constantly associate those who oppose us with those names that already have a bad smell. The association will, after enough repetition, become "fact" in the public mind." Despite the fact that these smears about The JBS were terrible they did not back down, realizing that if they are being treated in such a manner must mean that they doing something right.

1963 It was at this point that The JBS felt a need to encourage the law enforcement. This effort not only encouraged the officers, but protected them as well. They formed Support Your Local Police (SYLP). This effort was started because the independence of America's local police was being threatened. There was talk of a dangerous trend of moving toward a nationalizing the police force. The JBS moved and were successful.

Dec. 1970 It was this year that Welch established Resolutions for The Society. Here is the JBS stand behind: "In the Birch Society we believe that both less government, and a greater sense of responsibility by all groups and individuals, will automatically help to produce a better world. We further believe, therefore, that our actions and reactions in all circumstances should be determined by an honest answer to this basic question: "If everybody else on earth should think and act as I do, would this become a better world?" "The John Birch Society has been founded in a time and place where the people are - or were - predominantly Christian. The Society was named in honor of a man who nobly exemplifies great many Christian values. It is natural, therefore, that we should lean most heavily on the moral customs and beliefs which are associated with Christianity, and with the Judaic commandments and traditions that preceded it." "We believe that Communist movement is determined to destroy every religion, primarily by infiltration within its ranks. But that Christianity is - or was - the Communists' most automatic and implacable enemy which, from their point of view, they must destroy more surely and more completely then even temporal governments that stand in their way". Welch also included standards or "commandments" for Society members to follow as closely as they can: 1. I shall always do unto others as I would have them due unto me. It expresses what is probably the most universal of all moral exhortations. And it is a fundamental principle of Christianity. 2. I shall always be truthful. If all men (and women too, or course), from diplomats to drunken bums, would simply resolve tomorrow always to be truthful, about everything - to the best of their knowledge and understanding - and would then abide by that resolution, I believe that fully half of all the troubles and grief of the human race would disappear within six months. 3. I will neither kill nor injure another human being, except in such circumstances that it is morally justifiable to do so. By almost universal custom, those circumstances include self-defense on behalf of myself, my family, or any lawful group with legally clean hands of which I am properly a member. By equally strong tradition, they include combat engagements, while I am in the armed services of my country during war with a foreign nation, and am carrying out the orders of my superiors. 4. I shall oppose, in every practicable way that I can, the widespread use or legalization of abortion, or of euthanasia. For abortion, in plain language, is simply murder - as any honest doctor will tell you who has witnessed the struggle of the living fetus to survive. And about euthanasia being murder there can be no argument. 5. I shall always support the concept and the practice of monogamy. This is one course of conduct on which the morality of many other religions and Christian morality sharply diverge. And I am aware that much can be said for those other points of view. Also, I agree that we should be very hesitant about rushing in to try to impose our ideas of the proper relationships between men and women on the people of other civilizations. 6. I shall not steal, and I shall oppose stealing by others, whether they be individuals, groups, or governments. The right to own private property is much more the cause, than it is the result, of civilization. The desire to be secure and protected in the ownership of property has been one of the great motivating forces in causing men to surrender some of their individual freedom to governments. 7. . Most especially I shall be tolerant of the religion of others, while faithful to the beliefs and principles I shall be tolerant of other people's views of my own, with reverence always and blasphemy never as visible manifestations of my spiritual outlook. The evangelically minded devotees of any religious faith must be allowed the right and the opportunity to convert others to their beliefs, provided this is done entirely by persuasion through civilized procedures. 8. I shall be a good patriot of my country. Patriotism, meaning the love of one's own country, is still an admirable trait, as it has been for thousands of years. In the US today patriot is usually an Americanist, as distinguished from a Communist; meaning that he believes the traditional American way of life is superior to the Communist system. 9. I shall honor and cherish all of my family relationships and responsibilities. The family is the structural unit of which any civilization is built. Unless these building blocks be a good quality, with firmness of form and cohesiveness of substance, the whole social structure will gradually disintegrate and crumble into ruins. 10. I shall be self reliant, to the full extent that is consistent with, my age, my physical condition, my sex, and my family relationships. I shall teach self-reliance to our children, and encourage it in other human beings. This means that I earnestly support in practice, and advocate in theory, The John Birch Society emphasis on less government and more individual responsibility. 11. I shall always participate in charity for the needy, to full extent that my resources and my other responsibilities will permit. One reason that poverty can not be abolished is that it is a relative condition. The very poorest people in America today are well off, even by the most materialistic measures, compared with the great masses of those who live in Soviet Russia; and are actually rich in their living standards when compared with a least a hundred million of the poorest people in India. 12. I shall always do what I can to prevent cruelty, whether to human beings or to any living thing; and to be guided by a genuine compassion for all mental or physical suffering by man or beast. This does not mean that I am necessarily a vegetarian in diet. The torture of any human being for any reason - as is now so widely practiced by the beasts who call themselves Communists - is morally far worse than even cold-blooded murder. 13. I shall always recognize my responsibilities for the physical, mental, and moral training of children entrusted to my care as parent, teacher, or guardian. These responsibilities, on the part of a parent, include the giving to each child of a happy home, with adequate food, shelter, clothing, education, and entertainment. As well as love and attention and inspiration and praise and discipline which clearly are a part of their total duties. 14. I believe, emphatically and earnestly, in justice as an ideal which every social organization should strive to provide, through it's laws and customs and attitudes, for all human beings. The only deviations from justice should be on the side of mercy, in situations where mercy is dictated by humane public conscience. It should be noted, as a plain and tragic historical fact, that the human race has not known any reasonable degree or dependable certainty of justice except in fortunate areas, under unusual circumstances, for comparatively short eras. But the expectation of justice is strong enough in most human beings, especially throughout their early years, to be one of the great driving forces towards the formation of a truly civilized national life. And we should do all we can to promote the fulfillment of this divinely inspired hope and ideal. 15. I shall never accept the satanic sophistry that the end justifies the means. Nor the parallel and equally fraudulent theory presented as "situation ethics". As to the end justifying the means, who is to decide what end is noble enough to justify means of what degree of foulness? Why, the person who wishes to commit the foul deeds, of course. And who is to decide what otherwise clearly immoral act is to be reassessed as morally all right under some particular circumstances, as permitted by "situation ethics"? Why, the person in those circumstances, of course, who wants to commit the immoral act. 16. I shall not yield to any of immorality which the enemies of God and man are now trying to get widely practiced and accepted, especially by our young people, as fashionable, or "modern." And I shall do my utmost to have all of these grossly immoral practices understood, resisted, and made the object of deserved contempt by young and old alike. The most flagrant among the bestialities to which I refer are: sexual perversion; sexual promiscuity outside of marital ties; the use of narcotic drugs which seriously damage either the mind or the body (or both) of the user; the flaunting of dirty hair and dirty clothes over dirty bodies; and the stupid and sometimes criminal manifestations of rebelliousness against an inherited civilization of which these rebels do not have the slightest understanding. 17. I shall always be industrious. The devil not only finds too much mischief for idle hands to do, but increasingly in our contemporary world he causes idle minds to turn inward on themselves. There is no time and little temptation for those who work hard on their jobs and their responsibilities to engage in vandalism, arson, or similar recreations of contemptible parasites. 18. I shall try had to preserve a sense of moderation and balance with regard to all my appetites, desires, and expectations. The intensity of my urge to learn, to see, to do, to understand, and to experience all that life has to offer, will always be kept under control, to the best of my ability, by all of the common sense, sound judgment, and weighing of conflicting considerations that I can muster for the occasions when they are needed. 19. I intend always to maintain a spirit sincere humility concerning my own position and deeds and influence, in connection with all organizations, undertakings, and activities of which I am apart. This will be simple because I have so much to be humble about. It will not be because of, nor indicated by, any weakness in the face of opposition, lack of confidence in tackling any task for which I am equipped, or undue restraint in battling for what I believe to be right. My underlying, continuous, and very real humility will be more deeply rooted in my realization of how little I can possibly know and do in all the vast areas of knowledge and of need which loom so overwhelmingly over and around all intelligent men of good will and good conscience, at this stage of our western civilization. 20. I shall always try to have, and to demonstrate, the courage that can properly be expected of me, in all situations where courage is required. This promise, to myself more than others, is made in full realization of a most important fact about courage, in the kind of struggle which engages us all today. Courage on a battlefield, with the constantly clear and present danger of being killed, is an admirable and much needed trait for any patriot.

1974 TRIM (Tax Reform IMmediately) was formed. This program by The Society was developed to keep close ties on each of the 435 House of Representatives. It's been referred to as the members "report cards". It looks at how they are spending dollars in excess as well as unconstitutional spending. Due to the distribution of these so called "report cards" on the Rep's there have been a lot of premature retirements, firings, and drop outs of elections.

1975 The Society's "Get US Out!" proposal was a direct opposition to the United Nations and all they stood for. The JBS distributed huge quantities of advertisements such as bumper stickers, billboards, and petitions, in conjunction with it's books, magazines, pamphlets, film showings, lectures, and broadcasts. All of this contributed to the unpopularity of the UN.

Between 1975 and 182 The JBS delivered "Get US Out!" petitions to Congress with an excess of eleven million signatures.

1984 It was here when The JBS formed an effort to stop two twin efforts at destroying the Constitution, called the Save the Constitution program. The two efforts wanting to relinquish the Constitution were: The drives for a constitutional convention (con con) and a Conference of the States (COS). Back in '83, 32 states (of the required 34) had actually been in favor of having Congress convene a constitutional convention. But The Society wasn't going to allow this to happen. They were able to stop this movement from Alabama, Florida, and Louisiana withdrew from the convention so that dropped them back to only 29 states which placed them out of reach of attaining their goal.

Jan. 6, 1985 Robert Welch leaves his legacy behind to be carried on - he passes away. However, the story does not end here the battle remains "unwon" and The JBS will continue to wage war against anything that stands in the way of the American way.

May 13, 1996 Even nowadays The JBS is receiving grief and being called fanatics. This smear campaign consisted of an article entitled "When Conspiracy Theory Replaces Thought", that bashed The Society's whole purpose of existence. The writer, Ira Straus, says, "Conspiracy is doing America real harm� It rationalizes thinking on every issue. It kills."

April 19, 1998 This was the most recent smearing of The JBS. It was on the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing. This article was entitled "Targeting the Government: The Road to Oklahoma City Was Paved by 40 Years of Fringe Movements". The John Birch Society was labeled "paranoia's" and accused of leading "violent anti-government movements". Near this same time an NBC special report was ran on "Conspiracy Theories" on television. They warned: "There is a group of people here in the United States who would love to see the United Nations out of New York and out of the country for that matter. These people believe that U.S. sovereignty is in some way threatened by the United Nations and that the UN or some nebulous New World order is out to take over America." Robert Welch has been labeled a criminal and his John Birch Society has been criticized in the past. Even though The Society was attacked most of their opponents are gone now and they are still here. The present President, John McManus, said, "The fact that the John Birch Society is as strong as it has ever been after 40 years is a testament to the strength of its vision and the continuing need for the services we provide. Our slogan, "Less government, more responsibility, and - with God's help - a better world, summarizes what we stand for. We are here to preserve the American system of government as created by our founding fathers and to assure the blessings of liberty to future generations of Americans."

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Leadership Style

I would definitely say that his leadership style would be Democratic. Within The Society they fought such a variety of things. One person wouldn't have interest in all of that. I believe there was a "ladder" and that others opinions were welcomed. In an article I read there was mention of a President, which doesn't necessarily mean that they were democratic but I think that he would have a different title if it were otherwise. Also, this was a "Christian based" organization - there isn't going to be any Authoritarian or Laissez-faire or Abdocratic leader(s).

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Political Philosophy

As I look back at everything that Robert Welch accomplished, I consider it amazing that neither he nor any of his "followers" ever resorted to violence. They were big supporters of America and Her justice system and used the system to impose their influence. They did everything by the book (despite the fact that they were extreme - not extreme as in crazy, psycho, Nazi's, but not quite all there either).

Finding or deciding on Welch's political philosophy is difficult. He doesn't fit perfectly into one category. My best suggestion would be to classify Robert Welch in combination of categories. The mix being between: Radicalism and Reactionism. Both of these groups are highly active in disliking the present situation. Reactionists desires to have the past back, and Radicalists are very confrontational but without the use of violence. I see both of these categories in Robert Welch. He was a man that was desperate to combat injustice towards America - to put it plainly the UN. He highly disliked the UN and saw them as a huge threat to American freedom. The UN always was plotting to form a one world government and Welch would do all in his power to oppose them. Reactionism applies because they have a strong desire for the past and it's plain as day to see when skimming through the Resolution that he instated in 1970 that he wanted an America, a world that went back to it's roots of solid Christian beliefs and a high standard of morality.

As far as his types of arguments goes I would, once again, have to use a combination: Reversive and Restorative. Reversive because he does feel that society has gone too far and needs to go back to a time when people, "�were self-reliant, good mannered, had moral uprightness, a respect for hard work, and valued integrity". He was also a Restorative because I'm sure he feels that now is a very bad time and that any time (in the past) is better than now. You get a sense of this when reading the 16th proposal. He seemed to think that sexual immorality runs rampant with kids and this is due to a decrease in our nation's society.

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Edited August 6, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[John Dolva]

I'd still like to know the context (ie setting, others present, full text etc) of what Welch said in this meeting if that info is available.

[Jim Phelps]

I'd still like to know the context (ie setting, others present, full text etc) of what Welch said in this meeting if that info is available.

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It'll take some digging around to turn that up. I've done some searches looking for details. I'll keep looking and see what turns up.

But, I'd include the FBI's knowledge and years that lapsed since 1958 that allowed the information to spread into Govt, as they were definitely trying to drive Govt Policy. Welch was the leader and the group would be his Echo. That founding speach was all of their inspiration.

Looks like DDE had buy-in and JFK didn't. JFK likely thought them a theat to Peace Making and his directions, as he learned all the schemes afoot for dragging the US into a war, trying to dupe JFK.

RFK appeared to be walking the tight rope between the two factions, when he should have taken a more solid JFK peace stance earlier.

Edited August 6, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

Looking like some others found the vile deceptions underlying the JBS. It appears the JBS sprang up in Belmont, Mass., and appear to have gotten the Nickname of the "Belmount Brotherhood". Certainly, all in the Kennedy back yard.

Plus, some really good insights on what the London based Masonic Eyes and Two-Faced Eagles are all about. Masons valued the Serpents imagery and sought designs based upon such.

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http://watch.pair.com/belmont.html

You may object: 'Look at all the great things Welch has done - he has exposed the Illuminati.' Baloney. The Illuminati was merely a branch of the Conspiracy. How can one attack the Illuminati without attacking the diabolical power behind it: organized Freemasonry? Welch has provided the most valuable service of all time to the Conspiracy. He founded an organization to neutralize millions of Americans from discovering what the true power behind the Illuminati really was. And we concede the Mason's chose an extremely clever man to do the job. Welch, with the help of the Belmont Brotherhood, plays his role very effectively.

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Oswald Wirth would not agree at all with those two words. Wirth speaks with some authority, being a 33rd Degree Mason and an author of many books on Freemasonry, he held an eminent position with fellow Masons as an initiate of he Grand Lodge of France. In Wirth's L'deal Iniatique, he explains the great significance of an initiation into a Masonic Order:

"It is a serious matter to ask for Initiation, for one has to sign a pact...it demands that the man's soul be truly committed in the act." (op.cit., de Poncins, p. 48)

Wirth cites The Book of Genesis to arrive at the cardinal tenet of all Freemasonry:

"The beguiling serpent, who incites us to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, symbolizes one particular instinct. He breaks away from the conservative instinct and represents both a nobler and subtler instinct, whose purpose is to make man aware of his need to rise in the scale of beings".

"This secret spur is the promoter of all progress, and of all the conquests which enlarge the sphere of action both of individuals and of groups"

"That explains why the Serpent, inspiring disobedience, in subordination and revolt, was held accursed by the ancient theocracies, while at the same time he was honoured among the initiated." (op.cit., de Poncins, pp. 87-88)

Welch puts it a little differently. But the more it changes, the more it stays the same. For Welch calls man's need to rise to a higher scale of beings his "upward reach." As he wrote in The Blue Book:

"I want to convince you as I am convinced, that even under such leadership (his, that is -- N. we have no chance (emphasis ours) unless the specific battles are fought as part of a larger and more lasting movement (like Wirth's or Pike's Grand Orient Masonry perhaps? -- N.B.) to restore once again an upward reach in the heart of man." (The Blue Book, p. 115)

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As 33rd Degree Mason Oswald Wirth explained it:

The object of the ancient mysteries was to make men like unto gods. The mystery took on more of the divine nature as it rose morally and intellectually further beyond the level of common humanity. The programme of Initiation has not changed even in our own day: the modern Mason, too, also becomes more divine, but he realizes that he can only become so if he works divinely, that is, by completing the unfulfilled task of creation. Raised above the level of man's animal nature, the Builder, by carrying out the divine plan, himself became a god, in the ancient sense of the word. (O. Wirth, Le Livre du Compagnon, p. 74 - as quoted by Vicomte Leon de Poncins, Freemasonry and the Vatican, p. 88)

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http://www.answers.com/topic/john-birch-society

A transcript of Welch's two-day presentation at the founding meeting was published as The Blue Book of the John Birch Society, and became a cornerstone of its beliefs, with each new member receiving a copy.[9}

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Former Eisenhower cabinet member Ezra Taft Benson – a leading Mormon – spoke in favor of the John Birch Society, but in January 1963 the LDS church issued a statement distancing itself from the Society.[34]

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Edited August 6, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

More excellent insight:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/jbs.htm

Sara Diamond's book, Roads to Dominion: Right-Wing Movements and Political Power in the United States, notes: "Before and after the formation of the John Birch Society, corporations played a major role in rallying the public to the anticommunist cause." 1. In 1947, the Taft-Hartley Act granted corporations the right to distribute literature to counter labor union organizing -- a movement they blamed on the communists. To reduce the cost of producing and distributing anti-Communist materials, corporations turned to non-profit organizations such as the JBS.

By 1963, corporations were spending an estimated $25 million per year on anticommunist literature... Some corporations circulated print and audio-visual materials produced by the John Birch Society; other corporations produced their own in-house literature...By the early 1960s, the Nation magazine reported that there was a minimum of 6,600 corporate-financed anticommunist broadcasts, carried by more than 1,300 radio and television stations at a total annual budget of about $20 million...Leading sponsors included Texas oil billionaire H.L. Hunt and Howard J. Pew of Sun Oil. The corporate sector's massive anticommunist propaganda campaigns created a favorable climate for the mobilization of activist groups like the John Birch Society. 2.

On the other hand, or rather the other side of the dialectic, super-capitalists such as John D. Rockefeller would come to understand the potential of using labor unions to corporate advantage -- as a means of controlling the opposition.

The Rockefeller interests have not overlooked and have made good use of the monopoly of labor that is afforded to unions, to effect monopolies of industry that would be recognized as illegal if they had been effected by a monopoly of machinery. Labor unions have proved to be a powerful weapon for the Rockefeller Empire in extending its world conquest; and subsidized unioneers are always in the forefront of the emissaries that they send out into newly conquered territories. With Marxism as a shibboleth, they are rapidly accomplishing a world-wide subjugation of the "peasantry". This has earned for wily John D. Jr. a reputation for "liberalism". It is more appropriately called "Rockefellerism". 3.

In the long march toward a new social order, ultra-right and left-wing agitation propaganda serve not only to polarize and destabilize society, they create a diversionary conflict to prevent recognition of the true conspiracy. Lest an informed and united citizenry form an alliance against them, principles of conflict management are employed by the power elites:

The plan, I think, is the old one of world dominion in a new form. The money-power and revolutionary power have been set up and given sham but symbolic shapes ("Capitalism" or "Communism") and sharply defined citadels ("America" or "Russia"). Such is the spectacle publicly staged for the masses. But what if similar men, with a common aim, secretly rule in both camps and propose to achieve their ambition through the clash between those masses? I believe any diligent student of our times will discover that this is the case. -- Douglas Reed 4.

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The Belmont Brotherhood documents that the founding JBS National Council was entrenched in the Eastern Establishment it purported to despise. Nor is its progeny, the Council for National Policy, a conservative, anti-Communist organization, but rather a globalist organization, anti-American and unpatriotic in the extreme. Noting the curious crossover tendencies between right and left in the World Anti-Communist League, authors of Inside the Leagueoffer the following insightful analysis:

The first enemy for both political extremes is the center. Both ultra-leftists and ultra-rightists have the same primary objective: to polarize the country, to implement the breakdown of the governing system, and ultimately to create a situation of chaos where armed conflict will be between the right and the left, the center having been discredited by its failure to prevent it...

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We contend that Soviet communism was merely one phase of the global dialectic, fascism and communism being two expressions of the same conspiracy. Nicholas Murray Butler of the English-Speaking Union has informed us: "Communism is the tool by which Britain's international finance is knocking down national governments in the interest of world government, world police and world currency." 57. The true conspirators are identified in The New Unhappy Lords:

If the facts concerning the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations be accepted, it will be seen that the proper study of political mankind is the study of power elites, without which nothing that happens can be understood. These elites, preferring to work in private, are rarely found posed for photographers, and their influence upon events has therefore to be deduced from what is known of the agencies they employ.

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"Capitalism and Communism, in terms of power, are merely their twin mechanisms to destroy the sovereignty of Christian nations. They will merge them into the projected super-state, where their financial power will exercise full sway and masterdom through that monopoly of atomic energy which is being sought with such feverish and fiendish persistence. They are selling us into slavery and using our material resources for their own nefarious world-wide purposes. To say that in exposing their plans for world domination we are playing the Kremlin's game is to act as an unconscious agent of Christendom's betrayal."

Using religion to control the masses is an essential fact of World Revolution, the dynamics of which are extensively treated in the online version of The Union Jack.

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The effect of the activities of these Christian fronts is to create counteraction against the United States government, which in turn builds the revolution to a point where the people themselves overthrow their own government, thinking all the time that they are patriots. The purpose of the right wing as used by British Israel is to create and encourage a revolutionary state of mind and then the people will bring down their own government.

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[Jim Phelps]

Since there is all the Chuch control, the name Joseph Milteer comes up as predicting JFK's assassination and how it would be done. So, the necessary question becomes what is the glue that binds Joeseph Milteer's knowledge about JFK soon to be killed and this piece below binds together the loose ends:

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http://www.jfkmontreal.com/joseph_milteer.htm

On November 9, 1963, a Miami police informant named William Somersett met with Milteer who outlined the assassination. Somersett was a union organizer with extensive right-wing political ties. President Kennedy was scheduled to come to Miami on November 18, 1963. As a security measure, the local police were monitoring known subversives like Milteer. A tape recorder and microphone was placed in Somersett’s apartment where the two men met.(7)

The following is a transcript of the conversation between Milteer and Somersett on November 9, 1963 nearly two weeks before Kennedy was killed:

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Somersett:

I think Kennedy is coming here on the 18th, or something like that to make some kind of speech . . .

Milteer:

You can bet your bottom dollar he is going to have a lot to say about the Cubans. There are so many of them here.

Somersett:

Yeah. Well, he will have a thousand bodyguards, don't worry about that.

Milteer:

The more bodyguards he has the easier it is to get him.

Somersett:

Well, how in the hell do you figure would be the best way to get him?

Milteer:

From an office building with a high-powered rifle.

Somersett:

Do you think he knows he’s a marked man?

Milteer:

I’m sure he does. I’m sure he does. Yes.

Somersett:

They are really going to try to kill him?

Milteer:

Oh yeah, it’s in the working.

Somersett:

Hitting this Kennedy I’ll tell you is going to be a hard proposition, I believe. Now you may have it figured out to get him from an office building and all that, but I don’t know how the Secret Service—they’d … cover all them office buildings and anywhere he’s going. Do you know whether they’d do that or not?

Milteer:

If they have any suspicions, they will of course. But without suspicions the chances are they wouldn’t. You wouldn’t have to take a gun up there. They’d take it up in pieces, assemble it and take it out in pieces. All those guns come knocked down and you can take them apart.

Somersett:

Boy, if that Kennedy gets shot, we have to know where we are at. Because you know that will be a real shake if they do that.

Milteer:

They wouldn't leave any stone unturned there, no way. They will pick somebody up within hours afterwards, if anything like that would happen. Just to throw the public off.

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This information is extremely important because Milteer was clearly a man with prior knowledge about the assassination. Despite his extremist politics, Milteer was a person to be taken seriously. His comment about Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy, and "the big Jew" tells us three things. First, his reference to "the big Jew" corroborates my thesis that one Jewish individual—likely Louis Bloomfield—ran the coup against Kennedy. Second, it reveals that right-wing extremists broke ranks with the Jewish-led coup immediately after the assassination. Apparently, Milteer and his associates had made a pact with Bloomfield to support the coup but secretly plotted to kill him—Bloomfield—upon completion of the deed. Third, it suggests that contingency plans were in place in 1963—by the right-wing extremists—to kill Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy.

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As previously stated, Milteer and his right-wing associates apparently made a pact with the Jewish forces—namely Louis Bloomfield—who organized the coup against Kennedy. Such an alliance seems highly plausible for several reasons. First of all, Evangelical Christians supported Israel for religious reasons mentioned before. Secondly, Milteer and his right-wing associates were racists and surely detested Kennedy for supporting American "negroes" in the burgeoning civil rights struggle. Thirdly, Milteer and his associates likely gave Louis Bloomfield a green light to step up heroin smuggling into the United States—as payment to the assassins—by Auguste Ricord et al so long as narcotics sales were confined to blacks in the inner cities, thereby making them a permanent underclass. Lastly, Milteer and his associates were ardent anti-communists and felt that Kennedy was getting too friendly with the Soviets.

Apparently Milteer and his associates learned that many of the Jews sponsoring the assassination had leftist leanings even stronger than Kennedy’s. Louis Bloomfield and Sam Bronfman, for example, were active members of the leftist Israeli labor union, Histadrut. Whatever the motivation, Milteer clearly indicated—in the cited FBI report—that he was declaring war on the Jews.

Such an action against Jews was not surprising in light of the origins of the Ku Klux Klan. Originally formed in Nashville, Tennessee in 1867 by Confederate cavalry general Nathan Bedford Forrest, the Klan disappeared by 1882 because its original objective—the restoration of white supremacy throughout the South—had largely been achieved during the 1870s. In addition, Forrest had ordered it disbanded in 1869, because of the group's excessive violence.(14)

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Did Joseph Milteer have enough influence—even within his group right-wing extremist—to instigate a war against Jews? As it turns out, he may have had assistance from at least one prominent politician, namely Alabama Governor George Wallace who was friendly with right-wing General Curtis LeMay, a hawkish adversary of Kennedy’s during the Cuban Missile Crisis.(16) Their animosity toward one another has been widely documented.

The Constitutional American Party—the group that Milteer reportedly addressed on November 24, 1963 when he declared war on Jews—later evolved into The American Independent Party, Wallace’s party when he ran for president in 1968.(17) General LeMay was his running mate.

Wallace loathed the Kennedy brothers and Martin Luther King because they shamed him in June 1963 during a standoff at the University of Alabama where Wallace stood in the doorway to block enrollment of black students. Under President Kennedy's direction, Bobby Kennedy called out the Alabama National Guard who forced Wallace to step aside. King was in the middle of the conflict as well. In fact, he solicited the aid of the Kennedy brothers to deal with Wallace.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yz2JucgbEA

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More of the glue that binds things together with the Southern Hate groups is the membership of HL Hunt in Dallas, Tx.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKhuntHL.htm

Hunt also funded two right-wing radio shows, Facts Forum and Life Line. He used these radio stations to support the anti-communist campaign of Joseph McCarthy. He also helped to finance the political career of Lyndon B. Johnson. A member of the John Birch Society, Hunt was a close friend of Edwin Walker.

A strong opponent of Fidel Castro, Hunt helped to fund the Cuban Revolutionary Council, a group that worked with the Mafia and the Central Intelligence Agency in an effort to remove Castro from power.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace

In November 15–20 of 1963, in the City of Dallas, Texas, George C. Wallace announced that he had intended to challenge the then 35th U.S. President, John F. Kennedy, for the Democratic Party's nomination as candidate for U.S. President for the November 1964 general election.

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So the glue that binds all the likely suspects becomes all the more obvious.

It is extremely telling that: "January 1963 the LDS church issued a statement distancing itself from the Society"

Apparently, the LDS saw these extremes rising to the point of designing to kill a US President and wanted no part of their political arm of the LDS any longer.

Edited September 9, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[John Dolva]

''A transcript of Welch's two-day presentation at the founding meeting was published as The Blue Book of the John Birch Society, and became a cornerstone of its beliefs, with each new member receiving a copy.[9}''

I wonder if it's possible to obtain a copy of the Blue Book.

[Jim Phelps]

There appear to be several editions that are online out there, and it appears even Amazon has them:

This appears to be a 1992 and 24th print edition:

http://www.archive.org/stream/TheBlueBook/MicrosoftWord-Document1_djvu.txt

http://www.scribd.com/doc/49130424/Blue-Book

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Here is what is told to be the 1959 Edition Blue Book in various formats from PDF to Kindel editions:

http://www.archive.org/details/TheBlueBook

It appears each edition may differ only via the Foreword, and the body of all of them are the 1958 presentation.

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http://www.reformed-theology.org/jbs/catalog/html/aobscat1.htm

The Blue Book of The John Birch Society

by Welch - $5.95 + $1.85 special surcharge

A transcript of the entire two-day presentation given by Robert Welch at the founding meeting of The John Birch Society in Indianapolis, December 9, 1958. The background, methods, and purposes of The John Birch Society are set forth. This version includes a revised Foreword and the complete text of Mr. Welch’s speech The Truth in Time, an overview of the national and world situation in 1966. (1992 ed, 202pp, pb) Order Now

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Then ran into these Polarization Concepts that Welch appears to have set off, very intentionally. It appears Welch's biggest game was to promote Polarization, which set off Kruchev and used DDE. It also opened the door for intensive exploitation of the extreme right capitalists. The Whole Purpose of the JBS seemed to be to reinflame the Russian US division and enhance the profits for the Mil / Ind Network and their Royalist capitalism that wanted a war to wipe out Communist resistance of their methods.

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http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/search/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=ED227535&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=ED227535

Opinion Papers; Speeches/Meeting Papers; Reports - Research

Abstract:A brief narrative description of the journal article, document, or resource. Conventional wisdom holds that the right-wing John Birch Society disintegrated during the late 1960s. An examination of the society's periodical readership indicates that it has, instead, expanded. Moreover, this expansion occurred during a period of ideological dissonance for the organization, a fact that undermines confidence in the explanation for Birchist appeal that sees the society as providing a protective, closed belief system for its members. Psychological explanations of the authoritarian character structure does, however, provide an explanation for this trend. An examination of "The Blue Book of the John Birch Society," a transcription of Robert Welch's addresses at the society's founding in 1958, reveals that the society epitomizes the three characteristics of classical authoritarianism--a view of the world as jungle, a tendency toward hierarchy, and a sadomasochistic tendency. Consequently, Birch doctrine functions psychologically for the authoritarian types most desirable for organization purposes while alienating potentially troublesome democratic characters. In this way, the society accomplishes its recruitment, consolidation, and confrontation with one rhetorical approach. (Author/JL)

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http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Americanism's+standard-bearer%3A+Robert+Welch+launched+an+unprecedented...-a0110025656

But Welch did not wait for "time" to reveal what was already obvious. In the February 1959 issue of American Opinion, he published a concise but withering expose of Castro's Red bona tides. That was followed in April with the entire issue of American Opinion devoted to fully documenting "the fact that Castro was, and all of his adult life had been, a vicious, lying, brutal, murdering Communist." If such a statement seems self-evident today, please be informed that at the time Comrade Fidel was being celebrated as an anti-Communist. According to the Eisenhower administration, the New York Times, The U.S. State Department, Harvard University, Reader's Digest, and virtually the entire Establishment media chorus, Castro was the "George Washington" of Cuba.

The same chorus heaped scorn and ridicule on the Birch Society founder for daring to besmirch their darling Fidel, and for two years kept bleating their unalloyed praises of the new Cuban "liberator." Some of these self-anointed "experts" continued their adulation even after Castro, having consolidated his power, himself came forward to boast that he was indeed a Communist and had been one all along. All of which went a long way toward establishing the credibility of Robert Welch and the Birch Society with all who had eyes to see. Moreover, the American people were becoming more and more outraged and were demanding to know how it could be that our government had made yet another terrible mistake, this time installing a Communist dictator on our very doorstep.

In its first months of existence, the Society scored a major victory by organizing a nationwide protest against the 1959 Eisenhower-Khrushchev Summit and the exchange visits in Moscow and Washington planned for the two leaders as a send-up before the summit. The JBS hastily organized the Committee Against Summit Entanglements, with Robert Welch serving as chairman. The committee ran full-page ads in the New Y0rk Times, Chicago Tribune, Dallas News, Cincinnati Enquirer, Arizona Republic, and scores of other newspapers throughout the country.

Public reaction was so favorable to the Birch ad campaign, and so unfavorable to President Eisenhower's overtures toward the "Butcher of Budapest," that Khrushchev's anticipated propaganda coup was a crashing failure and the Eisenhower return visit to Moscow was called off. Once back in Moscow, a furious Khrushchev delivered a scathing speech reporting on his visit. "There are forces in the United States working against us," he said. "They must be publicly whipped, subjected to the torments of Hell!"

Those torments were not long in coming. The Communist attack was launched on February 25, 1961, with a lead smear in People's World, an official newspaper of the Communist Party, under the headline "Enter (from stage right) the John Birch Society." The Society found itself falsely accused of racism, anti-Semitism, fascism, Nazism, Ku Kluxism, and the entire litany of defamatory labels. Birchers were called paranoids, extremists, radicals, super-patriots, hatemongers, bigots, subversives, lunatics, and fanatics.

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http://www.wisegeek.com/who-is-nikita-khrushchev.htm

Khrushchev, while attempting a peaceful relationship with especially the United States and even touring the US in 1959 with President Eisenhower,

It was thus interesting that after World War II and especially after Stalin’s death in 1953, Khrushchev was openly critical of Stalin’s policies, including the purges. Instead, he sought to provide a government less oppressive to its people and more open to peace with Western Europe and the United States. His program of destalinization that began when he became the leader of the Soviet Union in 1956 accomplished, at least temporarily, several things:

•Easier, more peaceful relationship with the West

•Cutback on the Secret Police's power

•Release of thousands of political prisoners

•Encouragement of the arts, especially literature

•Improvement of the economy and most people’s standard of living

At the same time that Khrushchev advanced these goals, and achieved them, he also easily retained his nickname, “the Butcher.” When Hungary revolted at USSR control in 1956, he sent 500,000 troops to suppress the revolution. Huge numbers of Hungarian citizens, especially young teenage men were jailed, and thousands of people were executed for rebellion.

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Obviously, the Robert Welch gang's hate for Khrushchev was intense with this "Butcher of Budapest" tagged on him and their going after DDE for encouragement of peace between Russia and the US. KHrushChev was aiming for good relationship with the US, until this Robert Welch gang inflamed the process via Polarization methods and extremes of name calling Demonization.

JFK was doing the same thing and learning about this out of control John Burch group pushing for a war with Russia. Walker was doing the same things as the John Burch gang.

Since this involved Hungary, one must then automatically associate that Fernec Nagy and George Mandello (Mandel) will get into the situation, along with Tibor Rosenbaum and the entire PERMINDEX gang as being interested. This gang would have hated Khrushchev, and the last thing they wanted was him riding around with DDE in the US.

I'd think JFK was getting really close to dropping a bomb on the John Burch Society.

Edited August 8, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[John Dolva]

I should have said a firt edition unrevised copy. Even better would be that actual minutes, and presuming a transcription from tape, the very tape itself (or stenographer notes) as well as the speech pages themselves.

[Jim Phelps]

OK---still looking. Might not be on-line, but there is likely that information archived somewhere.

Ran into this Bob Dylan Song that illustrates the JBS Paranoia:

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http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/talkin-john-birch-paranoid-blues

Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues

Well, I was feelin’ sad and feelin’ blue

I didn’t know what in the world I wus gonna do

Them Communists they wus comin’ around

They wus in the air

They wus on the ground

They wouldn’t gimme no peace . . .

So I run down most hurriedly

And joined up with the John Birch Society

I got me a secret membership card

And started off a-walkin’ down the road

Yee-hoo, I’m a real John Bircher now!

Look out you Commies!

Now we all agree with Hitler’s views

Although he killed six million Jews

It don’t matter too much that he was a Fascist

At least you can’t say he was a Communist!

That’s to say like if you got a cold you take a shot of malaria

Well, I wus lookin’ everywhere for them gol-darned Reds

I got up in the mornin’ ’n’ looked under my bed

Looked in the sink, behind the door

Looked in the glove compartment of my car

Couldn’t find ’em . . .

I wus lookin’ high an’ low for them Reds everywhere

I wus lookin’ in the sink an’ underneath the chair

I looked way up my chimney hole

I even looked deep down inside my toilet bowl

They got away . . .

Well, I wus sittin’ home alone an’ started to sweat

Figured they wus in my T.V. set

Peeked behind the picture frame

Got a shock from my feet, hittin’ right up in the brain

Them Reds caused it!

I know they did . . . them hard-core ones

Well, I quit my job so I could work all alone

Then I changed my name to Sherlock Holmes

Followed some clues from my detective bag

And discovered they wus red stripes on the American flag!

That ol’ Betsy Ross . . .

Well, I investigated all the books in the library

Ninety percent of ’em gotta be burned away

I investigated all the people that I knowed

Ninety-eight percent of them gotta go

The other two percent are fellow Birchers . . . just like me

Now Eisenhower, he’s a Russian spy

Lincoln, Jefferson and that Roosevelt guy

To my knowledge there’s just one man

That’s really a true American: George Lincoln Rockwell

I know for a fact he hates Commies cus he picketed the movie Exodus

Well, I fin’ly started thinkin’ straight

When I run outa things to investigate

Couldn’t imagine doin’ anything else

So now I’m sittin’ home investigatin’ myself!

Hope I don’t find out anything . . . hmm, great God!

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So, once one notices what the John Burch Society did to the Process of Russia's "Better Relations with the West," as set up with Khrushchev, and what they did to DDE, then you know exactly why DDE warned that the Mil / Ind Network was out of control, as they didn't want Peace or good relations with the "Butcher of Budapest" or Russia.

Once one makes note that they are upset with Khrushchev on Budapest, Hungary, then the Red Flags are on the field to connect up Dulles (The Royalist's Big Banking Butt Kisser), Fernec Nagy, George Mandel, Tibor Rosenbaum (Mossad), and Louis Bloomfield (Mossad, CIA, OSS, British Intelligence, DISC) and the PERMINDEX killing gang.

Just as automatic an association, one then has to connect King Harvey (CIA James Bond / Mongoose) and the out of control Cuba/Castro operations with JBS's demonization of Castro for booting out corrupt Batista, shutting down the Cuba exploitation, and giving the wealth back to the people.

JFK would know who exactly upset the Russian Peace process in the mid-50s with DDE and Khrushchev. They intentionally broke up the Peace Process. Not just one Peace process, but many.

JFK made the same moves toward Peace with Khrushchev and had all the dirty division game players in his sights, for the second time around. This gang wanted a war for profit and expansionism of their capitalistic extremes with only them in total control. No way was Khrushchev and JFK going to be allowed to take the show and make peace with Russia.

Who were the obvious top players---JBS's Polarization Gang, Milteer's Southern Hate Gang, and the Hungarian Sympathizer PERMINDEX's gang.

I think it might come into view why there was a distraction and disrespectful scene for talking so frankly about the John Burch Society's glue that pulls all the pieces together and exposes the Hate Networkers and their intentional Polarization methods to make profits for war or the Mil / Ind Network that interferred with DDE and killed JFK.

Perhaps there needs to be a line for Bloomfield / PERMINDEX in the "JBS False Flagging Blues" for Bob Dylan to have sung. That sure was a good political protest song, for those that knew the whole story.

Edited August 7, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Michael Hogan]

First editions are relatively rare and relatively costly: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=john+birch+society&sortby=1&tn=blue+book&x=80&y=10