John Simkin Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 The following people associated with the assassination of JFK were members of the Skull and Bones secret society: Henry Luce, William Averell Harriman, James Jesus Angleton, William F. Buckley, McGeorge Bundy and George H. W. Bush. Is anyone aware of any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Robert A. Lovett http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Lovett Lovett, Harriman and C. Douglas Dillon -- the Jupiter Island Gang. http://www.american-buddha.com/unauthor.bio.bush.8b.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Simkin Posted November 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 21, 2011 I have just found out that Frederick Trubee Davison, a friend of Henry Luce, was a member of the Skull and Bones. He was later to become Director of Personnel for the Central Intelligence Agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Burnham Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Barry Zorthian (Skull & Bones 1941) was a Vice President of TIME, Inc., and a spokesperson for the US Embassy in Saigon during the Vietnam War. As President, George H. W. Bush appointed him to the Board for International Broadcasting in 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) The following people associated with the assassination of JFK were members of the Skull and Bones secret society: Henry Luce, William Averell Harriman, James Jesus Angleton, William F. Buckley, McGeorge Bundy and George H. W. Bush. Is anyone aware of any others? vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvOvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Gaspard d'Andelot Belin SKULL AND BONES link http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=15569 oooooooooooooooooOOOOoooooooooooooOOOOooooooooooooo link http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=17035&st=0&p=213762&hl=interview&fromsearch=1entry213762 Now let us go into the Secret Service. The Secret Service was penetrated by the elites. The person that founded it, Lansing, a relative of Allen Dulles, was an Anglophile. There were OSS connections to the Secret Service through Scribner. There was a law firm called Scribner, Hall and Casey. Casey and Hall were with the OSS. Casey worked with Dulles both during World War II and in the decades after. Scribner was the head attorney for Treasury Department, and thus also the Secret Service. Scribner’s successor was Gaspar d'Angelot Belin, who belonged to a secret society called Skull and Bones, which had British connections. It is possible that Belin was involved in a conspiratorial luncheon with Mary Bancroft and Allen Dulles. Researcher Richard Bartholomew comments on a passage that Mary Bancroft wrote in her autobiography (which CIA censors had in manuscript form for a year before it was published). She was the lover of Dulles and Luce at one point simultaneously, but in Switzerland she was Dulles’s lover. In the manuscript itself she talks about metalanguage that she and Dulles used. They talked in code in a metalanguage, and in a paragraph within the autobiography possibly getting it through the censorship of the CIA, she said that she and Dulles had lunch at the Bundys’ house with Gaspar d'Angelot Belin, who had married a Bundy sister. Also there was James Jesus Angleton, whom Probe magazine said was probably very central to the assassination. They had lunch and tennis there. She said that in 1963 Dulles was very competitive and would try to let no one beat him in tennis. It must have been quite a surprise for Mr. Dulles, when Kennedy fired him after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Dulles was one of these people toppling governments all over the world and controlling world events and the CIA, and two words from Kennedy and he's gone out the door, hat in hand. So Bartholomew believes, and I agree with him, that that paragraph describing those lunches was metalanguage code for discussions on how to assassinate the president. As a matter of fact, Douglas Dillon, a friend of British elites and British eugenists and other Anglophiles, let Gaspar d'Angelot Belin handle all the affairs between the Warren Commission and the Secret Service. There is a letter that is addressed to Belin, although it was misconstrued, that referred to him as the head of the Treasury Department, by one of the Secret Service people. So that shows you how much authority that Dillon, who is the actual head of the Treasury Department, gave to Gaspar d'Angelot Belin, a man who was supporting Britain more than the United States through his loyalty to Skull and Bones. So both Belin and his predecessor Scribner show that there was a Dulles connection to the Secret Service through the Treasury Department. So that takes care of the Secret Service. Edited November 22, 2011 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Simkin Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Henry Luce and Briton Hadden established Time Magazine in April, 1923. Both were members of Skull and Bones (only 15 students attending Yale were allowed to join each year). They used their contacts through the Skull and Bones to raise money to publish the magazine. A fellow member, Henry Pomeroy Davison, Jr., persuaded his father, Henry Pomeroy Davison, a senior partner at J. P. Morgan, the most powerful commercial bank in the United States at the time, to invest in the magazine. Davison introduced Luce to fellow partner Dwight Morrow, who also bought stock in the company. Another member, David Ingalls, had married Louise Harkness, the daughter of William L. Harkness, a leading figure in Standard Oil. He had recently died and left $53,439,437 to his family. Louise used some of this money to invest in the magazine. By the summer of 1922 Hadden and Luce had raised $85,675 from sixty-nine friends and acquaintances. The vast majority of this came from the parents of their friends in the Skull and Bones. The Bonesman did very well out of their investments. Frank Peavey Heffelfinger, who joined the Skull and Bones society at the same time as Luce and Hadden, called his expensive summer home in Minnesota "the house that Time built". The value of Henry Davison's shares in Time had reached $7 million by the time he died in 1961. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 The following people associated with the assassination of JFK were members of the Skull and Bones secret society: Henry Luce, William Averell Harriman, James Jesus Angleton, William F. Buckley, McGeorge Bundy and George H. W. Bush. Is anyone aware of any others? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXiiiiXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX James Jesus Angleton was not Skull and Bones ========================================== Bones and the U.S. Intelligence Community In May 2007, CIA historians publicly released an article that rebutted inaccurate but enduring beliefs that Skull & Bones was an incubator of the U.S. intelligence community. The CIA article noted that movies such as The Good Shepherd perpetuated in the public mind the notion that entry into CIA’s upper echelons hinged on membership in Bones. The historians depict a slightly different story, however. Referring to characters depicted in the film, CIA historians pointed out that CIA Counter-Intelligence chief James Jesus Angleton attended Yale, but was not a Bonesman. Edward Wilson (Matt Damon), the main character in the film, was Scroll and Key member Tracy Barnes; Barnes is believed to have devised the Bay of Pigs invasion. Richard Bissell declined the offer of a Tap to join (he was an Elizabethan Club member, although his brother was a Bonesman). Richard Helms (DCI 1966–1973) attended Williams College. Allen W. Dulles (DCI 1953–1961) attended Princeton. McGeorge Bundy, senior adviser to Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, and strong advocate for increased intervention in Vietnam was a Bonesman. Recent former CIA Director Porter Goss, Yale ’60, was a member of Book and Snake, and Goss and classmate John Negroponte, the first Director of National Intelligence, who was a member of the Elihu secret society, were both in Fence Club, Yale’s name for the Psi Upsilon fraternity. (For more on Yale graduates’ and faculty influences on the formation of the intelligence agencies, see the book Cloak and Gown: Scholars in the Secret War, 1939–1961 by historian Robin W. Winks.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Simkin Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 (For more on Yale graduates’ and faculty influences on the formation of the intelligence agencies, see the book Cloak and Gown: Scholars in the Secret War, 1939–1961 by historian Robin W. Winks.) Thank you. I have just ordered a copy from Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert Morrow Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 John Sherman Cooper of the Warren Commission was Skull & Bones at Yale. Cooper was also a personal friend of John Kennedy and became an opponent of the Vietnam War. I do not think Cooper was involved in the JFK assassination, but by signing the fantastically flawed Warren Report, he showed that he could be manipulated into going along with the cover up of the JFK assassination. Overall, the man seems like a pretty good guy in relative comparision to the other politicians of the time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sherman_Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert Morrow Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Barry Zorthian (Skull & Bones 1941) was a Vice President of TIME, Inc., and a spokesperson for the US Embassy in Saigon during the Vietnam War. As President, George H. W. Bush appointed him to the Board for International Broadcasting in 1990. If another Yale Bonesman (and CIA) appointed Zorthian to International Broadcasting, then he was very likely CIA, too. Not definitely, but very possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tom Scully Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) John Sherman Cooper of the Warren Commission was Skull & Bones at Yale. Cooper was also a personal friend of John Kennedy and became an opponent of the Vietnam War. I do not think Cooper was involved in the JFK assassination, but by signing the fantastically flawed Warren Report, he showed that he could be manipulated into going along with the cover up of the JFK assassination. Overall, the man seems like a pretty good guy in relative comparision to the other politicians of the time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sherman_Cooper In May, 1922, two Yale junior class members from the state of Kentucky were among those "tapped" for Skull & Bones in a ceremony closed to the public by order of the faculty. http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1922-05-19/ed-1/seq-7/;words=W+Skull+jr+w+Norton+George ...George Washington Norton, Jr. of Louisville, and John Sherman Cooper of Somerset. 41-1/2 years later, Cooper was "tapped" to "serve" on the Warren Commission, and, in between, and after, the following details are observed.: http://international.loc.gov/service/mss/mssmisc/mfdip/2005%20txt%20files/2004mac06.txtThe Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training Foreign Affairs Oral History Project AMBASSADOR WILLIAM B. MACOMBER, JR. Interviewed by: Roger Ernst Initial interview date: September 30, 1989 ....Q: Was this an internal job within the Department or were you involved with external coordination? MACOMBER: Park and Fisher were constantly sitting on committees involving other government departments and I used to represent them on some occasions; but fundamentally I was an in-house staff officer. Then I left and got a job on the Hill as administrative assistant to a senator, John Sherman Cooper, which was in effect being his chief of staff. I got that job through Charley Bartlett, a mutual friend, and also because Senator Cooper was running against Alben Barkley, and as Senator Cooper's chances were not very good, not many people were after the job. Cooper was a wonderful man and it was a great experience working on the Hill. ... Atlantic Council of the United States http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/acus.htm Names of US representatives on the Atlantic Council -- precursor of NATO. ... AC H. M. Fitch AC William H. G. Fitzgerald AC Alexander Fitz-Hugh AC Henry C. .... A. MacLachlan AC John Dewitt Macomber AC/CFR Harald B. Malgren AC/CFR ... AC Arthur L. Miller AC Francis P. Miller AC/CFR Harlan Miller AC Mrs. Walter I. .. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22 Western interests and US policy ... - James R. Green, Atlantic ... books.google.com/.../Western_interests_and_US_policy_options.htm... Block all books.google.com results Western interests and US policy options in the Caribbean Basin: report of ... By James R. Green, Atlantic Council of the United States ... Western Interests and U.S. Options in the Caribbean Basin: Report ... www.foreignaffairs.com/.../western-interests-and-us-options-in-the-ca... Author Edited by James R. Green and Brent Scowcroft. Publisher Oelgeschlager. Year 1984 ... The first book, the Atlantic Council report, is favorable. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22francis+p+miller%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=cBt&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aunofficial&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=%22*The+group+was+led+by+Lieutenant+Colonel+Francis+P.+Miller%2C+a+Rhodes+scholar%2C+a+%22&pbx=1&oq=%22*The+group+was+led+by+Lieutenant+Colonel+Francis+P.+Miller%2C+a+Rhodes+scholar%2C+a+%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=30655l30655l10l31539l1l1l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=e447b5129e47e464&biw=1173&bih=736 "C": the secret life of Sir Stewart Graham Menzies, spymaster to ... books.google.com Anthony Cave Brown - 1988 - 808 pages - Snippet view Donovan was, however, far less ready for operations than he thought he was, and his stall for Sussex did not arrive in London until September. The group was led by Lieutenant Colonel Francis P. Miller, a Rhodes scholar, a high official of the Council on Foreign Relations, one of the organizers of the destroyers-for-bases campaign in 194o, and a well-known Democrat. They took over a house in Grosvenor Square to plan and carry out the Ossex operations. Although Miller had had no previous experience of clandestine warfare, he came imbued with Donovan's desire for "an equal, independent, http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18521&view=findpost&p=241124 .................................. ......So what we've got here is Ernie Byfield Sr. and Jr., hosts of Irv Kupcinet in the Pump Room from 1943 to 1960. All three were close to Patrick Hoy, hired away from Byfield in 1960 by Henry Crown as liason between Crown Hilton General Dynamics Arvey, and the Chicago Syndicate's Sidney Korshak and Gus Alex Sam Giancana and Tony Accardo. Kupcinet's co-columnist is life long Jack Ruby friend, Jimmy Colitz. Ernie Byfield, Jr. joins the army and the OSS, and is the best man in the 1943 wedding of William HG Fitzgerald, later the senior SMOM in the United States. An usher in that wedding, Oliver W. Hammonds, a WWII army intelligence officer, becomes Jack Crichton's co-director in ARABIAN SHIELD DEVELOPMENT CO. Hammonds' brother-in-law is Chase Manhattan bank director and SMOM Robert W. Flowerree with close ties to Loyola U. in New Orleans. Fitzgerald was a senior partner at Hornblower & Weeks. The daughter of his partner, Ralph Hornblower, married Dr. Daniel Catlin, the brother-in-law of William H. Quasha's son, Wayne. Fitzgerald's son, Desmond, married Helen Muffie Stone, granddaughter of Godfrey Stillman Rockefeller and daughter of Robert G. Stone, Jr., the Harvard Endowment Fund official who made the large, losing investment in Alan Quasha's Harken Energy, resulting in bailing out George W. Bush's failed oil business activity and positioning Bush as a multimillionaire and viable Texas gubernatorial candidate. Stone, Jr., according to Russ Baker, in his book, Family of Secrets, was rewarded with a directorship at R.S. Reynolds with co-director, Jonathan Bush. Reynold's father was a close friend of Frank Vanderlip, Jr., the godfather of William H. Quasha's daughter, Jill. Quasha's other son, Alan, the chairman of Harken Energy, had bought out Bush's bankrupt business, Spectrum 7 and invited Bush to join Harken's board. Alan married the daughter of the Nelson Rockefeller owned William Ronan, onetime chairman of the NYC's MTA, and longtime chairman of the Tri-State Port Authority. Byfield Jr. was married from 1955 until her death in 1970 to Russian noblewoman Valentina Osterman. Valentina's sister Nina married the first cousin and business partner of B. Rionda and George Braga, Placido Ervesun. GHW Bush escorted the daughter of the late Edward Hooker, step-nephew and oil business partner, George DeMohrenschildt down the aisle when she wed B. Rionda Braga's son, Ames. Byfield, Jr.'s mother, Gladys Rosenthal Tartiere leased her Middleburg, VA estate to JFK from December, 1960 until March, 1963. Byfield, Jr. married Italian countess Diana Masiere in the 1970s. Byfield and Masiere were married nearly thirty years and after his death, Diana Masiere Byfield married Robert S. McNamara in 2004. Points to consider.: Whitney Shepardson's son, John, described in 1990 how close his father was to Lt.Col. Francis P. Miller, the WWII commanding officer of Lt. William B. Macomber.: http://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/17/opinion/l-british-aid-figured-in-roosevelt-election-509190.html?pagewanted=print&src=pm http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USMC/USMC-OSS/USMC-OSS-11.html Herringbone Cloak GI Dagger Marines of the OSS Pg. 151 ....William Butts Macomber was a 23-year old Yale man who had enlisted in the Class III Marine Corps Reserve during March 1942. Although only of medium height, Macomber was constructed along the lines of a #10 wood screw. During his college days, Bill Macomber played varsity football, lacrosse, and captained the Eli wrestling squad. During one summer vacation, he had sailed with several North Atlantic convoys as an engine room wiper. Bill Macomber came from the sort of background which Donovan seemed to most prize. His great grandfather, I.W. Butts had been a newspaper publisher, businessman and politician in upstate New York. His grandfather, Francis Macomber, an eminent jurist and Justice of the New York State Supreme Court. Young Macomber had come to Yale by way of Phillip's Academy in Andover, Massachusetts, where he excelled in sports and was president of the debating society.9 Macomber wanted to be a Marine officer. He took extra course work in his pre-law program in order to graduate before his class. Then, upon reaching Parris Island, he was disqualified because of poor eyesight. But anyone with the combative nature of a wrestler was not about to be deterred by such a setback. Macomber petitioned for a waiver, and this request was duly granted.10 Commissioned a Second Lieutenant on 1 December 1943, he was already slated for duty with OSS. After initial training in the U.S., Macomber flew to England. Assigned to the SO Branch, Macomber was immediately tapped for the role of weapons instructor with a team of reinforcements for the SO/SOE FREELANCE circuit which was operating in the vicinity of Puy de Dome, Cantal..... The British and American intelligence commands could not reach a cooperative accomodation in the training of infiltration operatives, such as Macomber. Soon a division occurred with 22 Ossex teams of three training under the command of Lt. Col. Francis P. Miller and separately, 29 Brissex teams under British command. This training activity, begun in Sept., 1943 and involving so few Americans under secrecy and the command of only a Lt. Col., seems an intimate group. Other details making Macomber interesting are that he was the best man in the weddings of George Bush's sister, and 27 years later, also of Thomas J. Devine. In Sept., 1960, Macomber requested that the FBI investigate Lee Harvey Oswald and a handful of other defectors.: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14052&view=findpost&p=170455 Joan Mellen: NOTES.... --Document id number: 1993.06.10.18:04:90000. JFK 201-289248. OSW 12. Vol/Folder V53B. Title: Comparative Statistics Concerning Bloc and US Defectors. 9/23/60. Who from: Richard D. Gatewood, IRC/STATE. Whoto: William B. Macomber, Jr. /State. NARA. Macomber was Prescott Bush's guest at the ceremony where JFk was sworn in as a senator. Macomber attended a 1971 meeting with Nixon white house officials where he committed his support in a planned campaign to discredit Daniel Ellsberg. Macomber in the same year facilitated a white house staffer's request to give E. Howard Hunt access to 240 secret 1963 Diem related State Dept. cables, without asking about or arranging for verification of Hunt's level of security clearance. Hunt's purpose was to construct forgeries of the cables to implicate JFK and RFK in the assassinations of Vietnamese leader Diem and his brother. [PDF] * " ,o D aloes jfk.hood.edu/.../Hunt%20Diem%20Cable%20fakes/Hunt%20Diem%... File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML ment cables, apparently with no check at all on Hunt's own security status. Youn=g's ... quate authority and security clearance, State Department ... Macomber could not recall a conversation with Young concerning Hunt. Bray said, however, that records ... ly noted, however, that as of. July, 1971, Young had been ... Among the names early in this post associated with the Atlantic Council, and taking into account Macomber's close relations with the Bushes and Thomas J. Devine and his early knowledge of Lee Harvey Oswald, can we discount or dismiss the following? 1.) Macomber had a close history with WC's Sen. John Sherman Cooper 2.) Macomber's brother John was and is a longtime officer of the Atlantic Council and an investor in Bush family business ventures, a Bush appointee, and hired Thomas J. Devine as a V.P. at Celanese Corp. 3.) Bush, Devine, and through this link, Atlantic Council's James R. Green(e) are all directly associated with George de Mohrenschildt! http://www.jfk-assassination.de/warren/wch/vol9/page278.php (Testimony of George S. De Mohrenschildt Resumed) Mr. Jenner. the Commercial Bank of Haiti to be of further advantage to the people of Haiti." Mr. Jenner. You have read the two columns appearing under that heading that you described. Now, would you read the column to the right of those two columns? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. "Mr. C. J. Charles, honorary citizen of the city of New York. Mr. Clemard Joseph Charles, president and director of the Bank Commercial of Haiti, Port-au-Prince, has come back yesterday morning with his charming wife, Sophie, from a trip of 2 weeks in New York, and was accompanied by Mr. James R. Green, vice president of the Manufacturers Hanover Trust Co., ... 4.)Macomber's brother, John, was a fellow officer of the Atlantic Council with William HG Fitzgerald, senior US member of the Knights of Malta, Bush ambassador to Ireland, and.... a groom in a 1943 wedding where Fitzgerald's best man is.... Ernest L. Byfield, Jr.! Byfield, through his long association with Irv Kupcinet in the Pump Room in Chicago's Ambassador East Hotel, and via his promotion of Patrick Hoy to the presidency of the Byfield controlled Sherman Hotel Group, is just a step away from Jack Ruby and Hoy's relationships with Gus Alex and Henry Crown. Still a skeptic? https://www.google.com/search?q=ernest+byfield+cia&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a#q=ernest+byfield+cia&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=bks&source=og&sa=N&tab=wp&ei=0kP0Tui1OoiEtgf88dDQBg&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=f14f028f4d8a0938&biw=1280&bih=781OSS against the Reich: the World War II diaries of Colonel David ... - Page 225 books.google.com David Kirkpatrick Este Bruce, Nelson D. Lankford - 1991 - 257 pages - Preview Ernest L Byfield (b. 1914) served on the training staff for the Sussex operation. https://www.google.com/search?q=francis+miller+sussex+d-day&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a#pq=%22the+purpose+of+this+operation+was+to+gather+strategic+military+*%22&hl=en&ds=bo&cp=64&gs_id=6w&xhr=t&q=%22*The+purpose+of+this+operation+was+to+gather+strategic+military%22&tok=ahZPvpsUDZVgsBPKf730dg&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aunofficial&tbm=bks&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=%22*The+purpose+of+this+operation+was+to+gather+strategic+military%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=f14f028f4d8a0938&biw=1280&bih=781 Man from the valley: memoirs of a 20th-century Virginian books.google.com Francis Pickens Miller - 1971 - 253 pages - Snippet view ...After some pulling and hauling I was assigned staff responsibility for planning, organizing, and mounting an operation called "Sussex." The purpose of this operation was to gather strategic military intelligence through agents placed behind the enemy's lines prior to D-day and during subsequent operations. Strategic intelligence meant information regarding enemy ... Nothing less than victory: the oral history of D-Day books.google.com Russell Miller - 2000 - 512 pages - Snippet view Colonel Francis P. Miller, OSS, head of Sussex Operation: I was assigned staff responsibility for planning, organizing and mounting an operation called 'Sussex'. The purpose of this operation was to gather strategic military ... What are the odds that Byfield would be connected to Macomber and his OSS commander, Francis P. Miller, not only because Byfield was the best man of William HG Fitzgerald, but because Byfield was also in the OSS under Miller's command and was a training officer in the same, TOP Secret Sussex operation Macomber was trained in? What are the odds that Pat Hoy was a hotel executive under Byfield for 15 years and Hoy was close to Tony Accardo's top mob lieutenant, Gus Alex, and also that the WC's Howard P. Willens' father moved in next door to Accardo in 1958, and that Howard Willens designed the organizational structure of the WC and prioritized its investigative tasks? What are the odds that one JFK, "best friend", was CIA asset Ben Bradlee, another, Charley Bartlett, was a Bush playmate on Jupiter Island, won a Pulitzer prize through a "tip" he got from Prescott Bush, advised GHW Bush to ask Nixon for the job as U.N. Ambassador, and ceded half of his bi-weekly syndicated column to Cord Meyer, or that "best friend", Bill Walton asked his "friend", Ernie Byfield's mother, Gladys, to lease her Glen Ora estate to JFK, giving Byfield & co. possible surveillance access, or that "best friend" Lem Billings worked for de Mohrenschildt's cousin, McAdoo, and supervised CIA's James Cogswell III's best man in his wedding to Farish cousin, Joan, George O. Walbridge, 2d, in Havana? What are the odds that almost no one on a forum titled "JFK Debate" would show much interest in any of the above coincidences? Edited December 29, 2011 by Tom Scully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) [...] What are the odds that Byfield would be connected to Macomber and his OSS commander, Francis P. Miller, not only because Byfield was the best man of William HG Fitzgerald, but because Byfield was also in the OSS under Miller's command and was a training officer in the same, TOP Secret Sussex operation Macomber was trained in? What are the odds that Pat Hoy was a hotel executive under Byfield for 15 years and Hoy was close to Tony Accardo's top mob lieutenant, Gus Alex, and also that the WC's Howard P. Willens' father moved in next door to Accardo in 1958, and that Howard Willens designed the organizational structure of the WC and prioritized its investigative tasks? What are the odds that one JFK, "best friend", was CIA asset Ben Bradlee, another, Charley Bartlett, was a Bush playmate on Jupiter Island, won a Pulitzer prize through a "tip" he got from Prescott Bush, advised GHW Bush to ask Nixon for the job as U.N. Ambassador, and ceded half of his bi-weekly syndicated column to Cord Meyer, or that "best friend", Bill Walton asked his "friend", Ernie Byfield's mother, Gladys, to lease her Glen Ora estate to JFK, giving Byfield & co. possible surveillance access, or that "best friend" Lem Billings worked for de Mohrenschildt's cousin, McAdoo, and supervised CIA's James Cogswell III's best man in his wedding to Farish cousin, Joan, George O. Walbridge, 2d, in Havana? What are the odds that almost no one on a forum titled "JFK Debate" would show much interest in any of the above coincidences? Wow. That's very interesting, Tom, especially the Pat Hoy connection to Gus Alex. (Just don't tell Ron Ecker because I've heard that he hates coincidences.) --Tommy Edited December 29, 2011 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Give Ron a break, he's the funniest guy on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Give Ron a break, he's the funniest guy on the forum. John, Good one! --Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 You should read some of his older onliners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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