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It's a weal trategy, isn't it. -- Tommy
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Anatomy Of The Second Floor Lunch Room Encounter
Thomas Graves replied to a topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Researchers have speculated over the years that one of those two guys (way way back there behind the retaining wall) whom "Detective Roger Craig" (I don't think that's Craig, btw) appears to be looking at in the Murray photo was the "Oswald-looking guy" whom Craig claimed to have witnessed running down the grass and getting into a 1959-ish Rambler station wagon on Elm Street. -- Tommy- 278 replies
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David, What, then, are we to make of KGB officer (and Third Secretary at the Soviet Embassy) Nikolai Leonov's claim in his Russian-language book (and in National Enquirer magazine, of all places) that Oswald showed up at the Embassy on Sunday, September 29, while (5' 6") Leonov and The Boys were playing volleyball outside the Embassy, and that he alone met with revolver-packin' n' - cryin' Oswald? Just more fake news from one of Putin's supporters who nowadays sits in the Russian parliament? Below Left: Leonov, as photographed near the Soviet Embassy on October 2, 1963. Right: Leonov interpreting for Castro and Mister K. in Moscow -- Tommy
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Was "Full-Figured" Gloria Calvery "Running Woman"?
Thomas Graves replied to Thomas Graves's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Sandy, Upon a "second viewing," I'm incredibly ashamed to say that her white headscarf isn't visible in Betzner 3, although her white blouse is. She's just behind and to the right of the dark-suited guy who's sitting in the middle of (and leaning forward a bit) in the Queen Mary follow-up car. Btw, I just now noticed that my "Shorty" June Dishong might be visible standing in front of her. -- Tommy -
Was "Full-Figured" Gloria Calvery "Running Woman"?
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Bill Simpich's State Secret
Thomas Graves replied to William Kelly's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Newbies, of course, will probably not realize that CIA officer Bright was instrumental in making Lee Harvey Oswald appear, in the CIA's computerized Biographical Registry data base, to have the same physical attributes as another "defector", 165 lb.- Robert E. Webster, when he (Bright) apparently collaborated in early 1960 with the Marguerite-Oswald-interviewing FBI agent John Fain to do so, and that Bright was, in September-October, 1963, a rather recently-arrived "floating helper" at the Mexico City CIA Station. -- Tommy -
Bill Simpich's State Secret
Thomas Graves replied to William Kelly's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Thanks Larry. I'm glad I just now noticed this informative post of yours. -- Tommy PS I wonder if Bill Bright was involved, somehow. -
Anatomy Of The Second Floor Lunch Room Encounter
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Sandy, A final thought. Wouldn't it be something if Bart's "Shelley and Lovelady Walking Down Elm Street Extension" turned out to be the two guys "Detective Roger Craig" is watching as they walk back the other way on the E.S.E. in the Murray photo, about ten minutes after the assassination? -- Tommy- 278 replies
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Anatomy Of The Second Floor Lunch Room Encounter
Thomas Graves replied to a topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Sandy, Excellent post, imho. (lol) I think it's important for members and guests to realize, as you've so ably pointed out above, that I (with your technical and moral support) spotted the "clincher" clothing-related clue that proves "Woman In Black" is Calvery. To wit: she's wearing a dress that's lighter-colored than her black blouse and black headscarf, and it's "patterned", just like the dress"Big Girl" is wearing down on Elm Street during the motorcade. Keep up the good fight if I go away "on vacation" soon, and do try to get around to reading State Secret some day, won't you? -- Tommy- 278 replies
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Anatomy Of The Second Floor Lunch Room Encounter
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What's your point? You don't think that's Frazier on the landing?- 278 replies
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Anatomy Of The Second Floor Lunch Room Encounter
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Shirt color? Bill Shelley was wearing a dark-colored, un-patterned suit over a white shirt that day. That's him on the right. -- Tommy PS If I understand your question correctly (always a risky assumption), yes there is. In other words, the explanation you seek is very simple --- it wasn't Shelley who was walking down Elm Street "with" that other guy (who looks like Lovelady) in that dizzying Couch-Darnell GIF or in the blowups thereof. But then again, I probably don't know what you're talking about. LOL- 278 replies
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Anatomy Of The Second Floor Lunch Room Encounter
Thomas Graves replied to a topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Dear Gerry, To my knowledge, no one on this forum has ever claimed that Frazier was photographically "captured" walking down Elm Street Extension with another man about 30 seconds after the assassination. It's obvious to me that you're confusing Frazier with the guy Bart Kamp says is "William Shelley" in the dizzying Couch-Darnell clip, walking with the guy Bart Kamp claims is "Lovelady" on his right in said dizzying clip. -- Tommy- 278 replies
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A Case of Book Suppression
Thomas Graves replied to James DiEugenio's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
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Sandy, As I've tried to point out on different threads, Lovelady was actually standing next to the center hand rail in Altgens6. It's just hard to realize that because of the 120-degree angle (iirc) Ike Altgens was to the plane of the TSBD's facade, and the fact that the left wall of the steps / entryway jutted out so much in the LOS of his camera as to make it seem that Lovelady aka Doorman was standing next to that wall. -- Tommy
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I know it's a crazy idea, but it might explain why both Duran and Azcue described the blond "Oswald" they'd dealt with in a way that closely resembled Mexico City-based KGB officer Nikolai Leonov. And why the LI-FEAT (spelling?) documents Trejo referred to are still being withheld by CIA and the other CIA-DNS telephone tap documents "went missing." years ago. And why ..... (lost my train of thought there for a minute) ..... Nothing was said about Oswald's or "Oswald's" visit(s) to the Cuban Consulate in the Warren Commission's report, but his visit to the Soviet Embassy was spoken about, iirc.