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Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
The parked limo on the rightside is supposed to represent the location of JFK when the magic bullet struck. The two red parallel lines represent both the WC(dots) and Robert West(+ sign)physical location for JFK. As the plotted position of JFK according to the WC at z222, flashes, is the parked limo more reflective of the dot positioning by the WC or the + positioning of Robert West? -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
And, since Newcomb/Perry arrived at frames missing where the WC melded two shots, one being a 10.2ft adjustment behind the StemmonsSign, while the tire chalking photo supports the reduced speed and/or limo stop as the plat plots a leftward moving limo behind the sign, it's no wonder Brehm might have conflated the events just a slight bit with regards to when the limo traveled 10-12ft. The last time I checked, 10.2ft would be between that estimation. Charles Brehm (on south side of Elm Street, close to the President at the start of the shooting), November 24, 1963: “Brehm expressed his opinion that between the first and third shots, the President’s car only seemed to move some 10 or 12 feet. It seemed to him that the automobile almost came to a halt after the first shot, but of this he is not certain.” [FBI re port: CE1425: 22H837] In case you forgot, ballistically, JFK within the limo has to be in the correct physical location for the SBT magical mystery tour to succeed. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
The area that needed fixing was the StemmonsSign, etc. Why? " DPD James Chaney (one of the four Presidential motorcyclists)---stated that the Presidential limousine stopped momentarily after the first shot (according to the testimony of Mark Lane; corroborated by the testimony of fellow DPD motorycle officer Marion Baker: Chaney told him that "…at the time, after the shooting, from the time the first shot rang out, the car stopped completely, pulled to the left and stopped." TSBD Supervisor Roy Truly---after the first shot "…I saw the President's car swerve to the left and stop(Extant Z135?) somewhere down in the area…[it stopped] for a second or two or something like that…I just saw it stop." [3 H 221, 266]; Dallas Morning News reporter Mary Woodward (Pillsworth)---"…Instead of speeding up the car, the car came to a halt."; she saw the President's car come to a halt after the first shot. "DPD D.V. Harkness---". . . I saw the first shot and the President's car slow[ed] down to almost a stop…I heard the first shot and saw the President's car almost come to a stop and some of the agents [were] piling on the car." [6 H 309]; -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
After you listen to Dino for less than a minute, imagine on the plat above where the limo started veering leftward. https://vimeo.com/797251262 -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Copied from the last entry in the previous post pertaining to the tire chalk marks: "My guess would be, since one full tire rotation equals 7.4ft and z207 is halfway between z222/240 while CE884 lists the z207-222 span at 14.8ft traveled which is exactly twice the 7.4ft rotation amount, the speed from z207-z222 according to the chalk marks would be: 18/15 = 1.2x 7.4ft = 8.88ft per sec / 1.47 = 6.04mph" Newcomb/Perry expanded below, from the quote in red above by .0057 The difference between .48ft per frame and .4857ft per frame 10.2ft/21frames = .4857ft per frame x 18.3fps = 8.888ft per sec /1.47 = 6.046mph That's a match between chalked tire and Newcomb/Perry. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Back to Newcomb/Perry: Credit to Tony Krome for directing me to this photo: https://emuseum.jfk.org/objects/29149/black-and-white-photograph-of-fbi-reenactment-of-assassinati He started the following conversation(below)with astute observations of the chalked tire. It's a fairly quick read and I'll follow up with the Newcomb/Perry support in the next post. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
I've added back what I purposely left out from the original plat, plus the angle/lines at which the dots connect from z208-231. If you connect the dots from z231-z313(not shown) it is a straight line. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
The excerpt is from the Clay Shaw trial. The witness is Robert West. He is the surveyor hired to handle the survey work for the WC and all the other official reenactments. I have added the graphic with the dot path connected vs a straight line path, beginning from where the bogus limo speed entry at z161/168 begins, to approx extant z225/226. If you read West's responses, please ask yourself why there are objections. Then, take a look at the graphic and ask yourself if there is a lateral angle that is created, connecting the dots. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
For use as a reference: 2.24mph = .18ft per frame 3.74mph = .30ft per frame 5.98mph = .48ft per frame 2.34ft/5.5frames = 5.3mph from graphic above 2.34ft + .30ft per frame(3.74mph)= 2.64ft 2.64ft/5.5frames =.48ft per frame = 5.98mph or a little more than 1/2 frame removed will yield the same result. 2.34ft/4.87frames = .48ft per frame I guess my parameter should be +/- 1 frame instead of .3frame. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
For use as a reference: 2.24mph = .18ft per frame 3.74mph = .30ft per frame 5.98mph = .48ft per frame -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
The following is from Tom Purvis and his discussion with Robert West regarding the limo angular change relating to the CE884 entries from the previous post. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
I don't want to dwell on this area too much, but for a little context, I have to with a few posts. There should have been no reason for creating TWO versions of CE884, and yet, here's an excerpt from the graph below. The limo speed combined, using both CE884 documents equals the limo speed set forth by Newcomb/Perry using the distance the WC used(10.2ft) to move West's plotting of a shot at extant z207/208 down to station# 381.3 = extant z218 approx,(behind the StemmonsSign) Remove the .9ft BS distance entry, and combine the total frame span involved from both documents or in essence, z161-z171 =10 frames. That span puts us fairly close to (at the least) the eleven surmised by Newcomb/Perry. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
The graphic below is an excerpt from what I provided Tony. The scale is 1" = 10ft so each individual line is 1.25ft. When I originally sent him the plotting results, I used 1.875ft as the distanced travel, but 1.875 was reflective of the individual measuring lines. Hence the reason that equation is in red type. So, 5.3mph(shorter frame span) vs 5.98mph so far. Fairly close, and it will get tighter. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Apply simple math (if it disinterests you I understand, but I think you'll be greatly missing out) to the previous posting: 10.2ft/21frames = .48ft per frame x 18.3 frames(1sec) = 8.78ft per sec/1.47(1mph) = 5.98mph Parameters being (+/-) .3frame, because of full frame(18fps) vs partial frame (18.3fps) count -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Newcomb and Perry had some of it figured out. Start by replacing their 10ft/21 frames with 10.2ft/21frames Tony Krome, are there some tire measurements we should release? Below is an excerpt from Newcomb and Perry's book "Murder From Within" -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
I’ll just mention this briefly as I want to stick around the StemmonsSign. But, if you add the distance differences among the two previous melding occurrences, it might appear as an adjustment in another location. For instance: 15.25ft + 10.2 ft -.9ft (BS adjustment advancement from CE884 z161-166 entry) = 24.55ft -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
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Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
A little from the other side: -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
It was just a general question to the audience. I never spoke to Robert West. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Sorry, I don't know the answer to my question. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Just another building block of the deception/adjustment to tie trajectories/timing back to the SE 6th floor. Using the same concept from the previous posting should allow you to understand Shaneyfelt's testimony a little better. Remember too, the speed from said z161-166 now becomes 2.24mph because of retarded distances. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
btw, Station# 381.3 = extant z218 approx. I'll fill in a little bit more from z207-station# 371.1 to 381.3 in a bit. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Yes, the camera was higher in the reenactment than the original. Why? I'm quite sure it was done intentionally. By May of 64 (among all the other prior reenactments) had they not ascertained Zapruder's camera height? Why? They had his physical position on the pedestal well established and Zapruder was still available for height sizing. Shaneyfelt surely knew the importance of this as he shot the reenactment from the pedestal using Z's camera. Where is the beautiful color reenactment footage shot by Shaneyfelt? It was only the president that was shot, I guess they could half-ass the reenactments. The StemmonsSign alterations were completed in "Notchville" Tennesee. "Raised up in his seat" - Enough to see, partial hands at the throat, above the sign??? I asked if West saw a version described in the previous sentence at approx extant Z208 ,which was then advanced to what is seen starting at approx extant Z226. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Four/Five extant frames after Robert West(Life Mag Investigation) surveys in a shot, we arrive at extant z212, which shows someone in the QueenMary reacting to something. The time period between West and the QueenMary reaction is where the extant sprocket hole images are missing. This gif might also help you with the SA Ready apparel fiasco. -
Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Does this clone work for you with the blue lines being an equal distance apart? Making the assumption that an adult human head averages between 9.4 and 10"