Chris Davidson

John, I believe this might be what you just described, and what Karl is looking for in the Z film. http://98.155.2.255:8400/18B91/LAMPPOST.gif I'm tilting the camera ever so slightly as I'm panning. The lamp-post is slowly becoming more vertical, up to and past a plumb position. Notice the openings in the brick wall "behind the top of the lamp-post" start to appear as my camera position changes. chris

Karl, This might help. If you stabilize the lamp-post, the other "stationary background" elements do not move. Their relationship stays the same. Appears to be O.K. chris

Frames from Bell. chris

Hughes Stabilized. www.denisedavidson.info chris

Audio of the gunshots. http://98.155.2.255:8400/F480E/DEALEY8K.mp3 Timed with a stopwatch, I get these results. First sound at 0. Second at 2.2 seconds. Third at 7.8 seconds. Last at 8.8 seconds. If you compare the individual time difference between shots 2/3 and 2/4 to the previously supplied D.B. Thomas document, sounds 2,3 and 4 work well. The first sound comparison is off by approx 7/10 of a second. chris

Holland says the 4th shot was much louder than the 3rd shot. Bill Newman's reaction is to the loudest shot. Newman sees and describes the 313 shot, but his reaction in Nix indicates a response to the later shot. chris Chris, I tend to believe that the location of Z-313 (physically marked on the street) is erroneous. I further believe that the Z-film frames are less than reliable [read:INACCURATE] when used as a baseline to determine...ummmm--just about anything! It is not an accurate "time clock" for starters, for numerous reasons. Unfortunately, it is "just close enough" to occupy our attention in an attempt to discover the truth, only to disappoint in the end. However, close scrutiny reveals little about reality, beyond the fact that the perpetrators were very thorough. The alteration of the Zapruder film is probably the single most effective element of the ongoing cover up [obstruction of justice] in the assassination of John F Kennedy. It sends even sincere researchers down the wrong path... Hi Greg, I would tend to agree with much of what you have said. But, I'm trying to supply a somewhat cohesive scenario with (in my opinion) concrete multiple elements thrown in, to see if it holds water. chris

John, Haven't got that far, yet. I'm trying to keep the firing location aspect out of this right now. I've tried to mold together different pieces, and see if this scenario is feasible. I believe there is at least one shot after 313. Newman starts ducking and covering at about 332. He said he only heard two shots. I don't think he heard the 313 shot. I think he saw it's affect, but reacted to the louder sound a split second later. If there is a weak link/s in what I have presented, please chime in. chris

Holland says the 4th shot was much louder than the 3rd shot. Bill Newman's reaction is to the loudest shot. Newman sees and describes the 313 shot, but his reaction in Nix indicates a response to the later shot. chris Chris, I tend to believe that the location of Z-313 (physically marked on the street) is erroneous. I further believe that the Z-film frames are less than reliable [read:INACCURATE] when used as a baseline to determine...ummmm--just about anything! It is not an accurate "time clock" for starters, for numerous reasons. Unfortunately, it is "just close enough" to occupy our attention in an attempt to discover the truth, only to disappoint in the end. However, close scrutiny reveals little about reality, beyond the fact that the perpetrators were very thorough. The alteration of the Zapruder film is probably the single most effective element of the ongoing cover up [obstruction of justice] in the assassination of John F Kennedy. It sends even sincere researchers down the wrong path... Tom Wilson established that the head shot was approximately across from the knoll steps. Jack Thanks Jack. Can you briefly describe how he came to that conclusion? That would corroborate what Tom Purvis has provided in the past, WC document 875, which is provided as part of this file. http://98.155.2.255:8400/98C58/Orientation.jpg I also included a view of that curb mark from a photo taken at or near the steps, along with Tom's measurements again. chris

Distance Measurements. Thank you Tom Purvis. http://98.155.2.255:8400/4CD9F/Yellow_Curb...easurements.jpg chris

Holland says the 4th shot was much louder than the 3rd shot. Bill Newman's reaction is to the loudest shot. Newman sees and describes the 313 shot, but his reaction in Nix indicates a response to the later shot. chris

Sorry, but I'm unable to tell as the gif is very shaky. Greg, Try this and also pay attention to Z filming on the pedestal. When do we see him react to a shot while filming? http://98.155.2.255:8400/179CC/NIX_FILMING1.mov chris

Altgen's is not 15 feet away from the 313 head shot. He is 15 feet away from the impulse which occurs 7/10 of a second later. chris

13 frames equals approx 10 ft. farther down the street with limo traveling at 9.2 mph. Mr. ALTGENS - This would put me at approximately this area here, which would be about 15 feet from me at the time he was shot in the head--about 15 feet from the car on the west side of the car--on the side that Mrs. Kennedy was riding in the car. I had refocused to 15 feet because I wanted a good closeup of the President and Mrs. Kennedy, and that's why I know that it would be right at 15 feet, because I had prefocused in that area, and I had my camera almost to my eye when it happened and that's as far as I got with my camera. Because, you see, even up to that time I didn't know that the President had been shot previously. I still thought up until that time that all I heard was fireworks and that they were giving some sort of celebration to the President by popping these fireworks. It stunned me so at what I saw that I failed to do my duty and make the picture that I was hoping to make. There was flesh particles that flew out of the side of his head in my direction from where I was standing, Mr. LIEBELER - And that it was 15 feet away at the time the third shot was fired. Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER - I don't know how many feet it moved, but it moved quite a ways from the time the first shot was fired until the time the third shot was fired. I'm having trouble on this Exhibit No. 203 understanding how you could have been within 30 feet of the President's car when you took Commission Exhibit No. 203 and within 15 feet of the car when he was hit with the last shot in the head without having moved yourself. Now, you have previously indicated that you were right beside the President's car when he was hit in the head. Mr. ALTGENS - Well, I was about 15 feet from it. Mr. LIEBELER - But it was almost directly in front of you as it went down the street; isn't that right? Mr. ALTGENS - Yes. Mr. LIEBELER - So, it is clear from your testimony that the third shot--the last shot, rather--hit the President? Mr. ALTGENS - Well, off and on we have been referring to the third shot and the fourth shot; but actually, it was the last shot, the shot did strike the President and there was no other sound like a shot that was made after that. I was just going to make a conclusion here, but that's not my place to do that, so I'll just forget it--what I was going to say chris

7/10 of a second equals approx. 13 Z frames. Difference between D.B. Thomas's last two impulses. Added to 313 headshot equals approx 326. Add 6 frames to the Z film for operator movement and we're at 332. chris

I believe the ordinary response time for an individual in reaction to external stimulus (gun shot) was proven to be about a 5 to 6 Z frame span. Not including the camera movement at frame 318 in response to the 313 shot, at what frame/s is there another incident of obvious camera movement in this Z clip? http://98.155.2.255:8400/256B5/Z_.mov chris

When do Toni Foster and Bill Newman react in Nix, in relation to the frame #? There is a frame count in red for the time period I'm concerned with. http://98.155.2.255:8400/FCBD7/NIX_FILMING1.gif chris

Thank you Greg. Exactly. I'm only concerned with the descriptive difference between the last two. chris

Next, I ask that you pay attention to the bottom red square and the time difference between these 2 impulses. http://98.155.2.255:8400/6BFD1/D.B.Thomas.jpg chris

I'll start this with an excerpt from the S.M. Holland interview. http://98.155.2.255:8400/F3DEA/HOLLAND.mov Please note his description of the sound difference between shots. chris

A stabilized gif to end it. http://98.155.2.255:8400/8A2ED/Darnell.gif chris

Does anyone know what type of hat this other person has on, behind the fence? chris

Amazing what appears when we have something decent to work with. Enjoy. chris

Towner frames. Bottom frames are original. Above them, somewhat enhanced. chris

Jerry, The Jefferies film was a little to small to see the steering wheel clearly, but that led me to another comparison frame. This one appears to validate your initial description of not seeing very much, if any, of Greer. Thank you, chris

This is a better frame of Greer's face through the windshield. chris