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    Splice in Tina Towner Film

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    On 4/19/2017 at 6:12 PM, Michael Walton said:

     

    "Also, a serious question and not to stir things up with you.  I've been developing training for over 20 years now.  When you present something, you have to list things for people 1-2-3, in order for them to get it."

     

    Chris' previous quote below:

    "Now convert 1.8 sec of 18.3fps film into total number of frames.
    Does that result sound familiar?"

    If you were serious about the above excerpt, you could have answered the question with a number. Period!!!

    Yet you followed with this drivel. Imo

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    Yes, it's very familiar.  Chris Davidson just won't let this "the films have been faked" theory die. I mean, really?  Watch JFK and Jackie as they glide by Towner, who's filming.  Nothing is happening. JFK sits there looking at the audience...the same with Jackie pre- and post- "splice."

    Rate x Time = Distance

    We're expected to believe that 7 frames have been removed from Towner during that sequence all to reveal...what?

    You don’t want to question Dale Myers. Why is that?

    7 frames is what Myers pointed out. 

    That's the funniest thing about these film alteration theories - no one on here, not Davidson, not Josephs, not others - can still to this day tell us WHAT was removed.  Or better WHY they were removed. No one that early in the motorcade has ever said anything or come forward to corroborate something sinister that has happened at that point. Not a one word. You can even see close to the same sequence from the woman who was filming from the 4th floor of the TSDB - people are just standing there clapping, taking photos, and so on.

    Frames were removed. I don’t have to explain why.

    Speculation = B.S.

    And yet...the film alteration theories never die.

    Of course they won’t.

    The previous A-B-C postings in this topic are not theories. Prove them wrong?

    When did the car average 14.2mph in the span provided?

    Meanwhile, if you choose to believe the assassination was a conspiracy and if the TSBD was nothing but a stage for the police to find fake evidence so they can pin the blame on the "lone nut" Oswald, do you really think that the plotters would have even suggested that their shooters start firing BEFORE the kill zone?  The goal here was to blame Oswald with as few shots as possible from the fake sniper's window.  That kill zone was obviously pre-planned to happen right down in the knoll area and that's pretty much what happened because IMO, the first shot did NOT start until Kennedy appears again from the freeway sign.

    Choose to believe. IMO. Real convincing.

    Glad you have it all figured out.

    No need to concern yourself with the information I provide.

    So why, pray tell, would the plotters have a crazy shooter as part of their team to fire way up as the car was turning the corner, completely destroying the plot?  It's ridiculous to think so.

    You are the one that keeps speculating on what the films should show in relationship to shooters.   

    Talk about ridiculous. 

    Further, Davidson here thinks that the Z film was filmed at 48 FPS and then 67% of the frames removed. Fantastic. But again, when I and others have asked him over and over again WHY 67% of the frames needed to be removed - in other words, what did these removed frames reveal - then crickets chirp.  No reply.  Nothing.

    Now you want to rehash your same old response.

    Here’s the problem you have:

    I showed you the exact method.

    Should I re-submit, that, which has already been explained in great detail again. Un-necessary for those that get it.

    Exactly. Because all of these removed frames and splices and painted in blobs are just another wacky theory that does nothing but confuse both serious researchers and newbies just getting interested in why Kennedy was murdered.

    It's regrettable that you consider applying a basic mathematic formula to the assassination films a "wacky theory".

    It’s not difficult to solve a R x T = D equation.

    Even easier when all elements are provided.

    Unfortunately, not everyone will understand.

    Such is life.

     

    Splice in Tina Towner Film

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    11 minutes ago, Chris Davidson said:

    Myer's frame rate for Towner's camera = 22.8fps for his multi-sync hypothesis to work.

    Excerpt from Gary Mack on Towner's film: "The Towner film's true speed is likely closer to 18fps or slightly faster for most of the reel than to any other speed; it certainly was not operating at 16fps on November 22, 1963. Gary Mack"

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwrExtVD005ONzVvdm1iOWlXUDg/view?usp=sharing

    Towner's true camera speed = 18.3fps

     

    Oswald Leaving TSBD?

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    On 4/15/2017 at 3:41 AM, Andrej Stancak said:

     

    Mr. Dale Myers reconstructed the time axes of different films, and assumed it was Wiegman's frame 14/15 which matched with Altgens6. However, I doubt Myers's time reconstruction at this particular point for a very simple reason: we see Carl Jones viewing east in Altgens6 but to the west in Wiegman's frame 14 or 15. Of course, the image quality of Groden's version of Wiegman's film available to me is very poor to determine the Mr. Jones's gaze axis. Anyway, I wonder what are the opinions of forum members about Carl Jones viewing towards the Tripple Underpass in frame 14/15 and eastwards in Altgens6.

     

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    Andrej,

    Myers didn't assume anything.

    You are wise to doubt his timeline.

    No opinion necessary, just a matter of excised frames.

     

     

     

    Help Please - need to see FBI Item D-77: Kleins orders

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    David,

    Just to compliment your previous post, so others (I know you are already familiar with it) might understand the MO of the powers that be.

    Don't want to sidetrack your topic, so carry on.

    Quote Tom Purvis:

    The reduction in size and resolution problems are an apparant means of the WC to, as stated, "Hide in plain Sight" much of that information which they could not risk keeping completely hid.

    And although you are most probably not up to date on the altered survey data in the WC Data block, this too was one of their "slight" sleight-of-hand tricks.

    CE882 is purportedly* a copy of the survey plat which Mr. West prepared for the WC after their May 1964 re-enactment of the assassination.

    CE883 is reported to be a EXACT "cardboard reproduction" of CE882.

    Dates on these are May 31, 1964

    In order to understand much of the WC, one must also understand their "slight" sleight-of-hand tricks.

    The actual survey plat(CE882) was introduced into evidence in a sealed envelope which was never opened.

    Thereafter, CE883 (reproduction on cardboard) was introduced as representing what was inside the envelope and never opened for view.

    Now! You may find that I often tend to, if you will, see if anyone is paying attention---------to detail.

     

     

     

    Why Humes Thought the Back Missile Hit at a Sharp Angle -- a Hypothesis

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    Sandy,

    Your quote "I used physics to determine how far over the catcher's head the thrower needs to throw the baseball in order for it to come down in the catcher's vicinity."

    The distance was approx 320ft in 3.2 sec.

    The top blue line is the top of the baseball arc. (Red arrow points to baseball).

    If you replay the video and time the travel of the ball, in relationship to the runner getting ready to slide, (straight line distance between 3rd base and home plate = 90ft), the runner has approx 7 strides, is in an arc outside the straight base line distance and slides, all from when the ball in flight reaches it's top height which is 1/3 of the remaining time of 3.2 sec = 1.07sec.

    7 strides @ 3.5ft per stride = 24.5ft

    extra baseline running arc = 5ft approx

    slide before ball hits glove = 3.5ft

    Total approx 33ft

    Fastest runner in the world Usain Bolt at 27MPH Olympic Record 100meters

    Base runner 33ft in 1.07 sec = 21mph

    Ball in flight, caught by catcher approx 5ft before runner slides.

    At 1.07 seconds (travel time from top height of ball arc to catcher's mit), how fast/far does the ball have to travel to beat the runner by approx 5ft?

    chris

     

     

     

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