Evan Marshall

Welcome to the Forum Evan, As far as I am concerned you speak the plain, and obvious truth. We will have to figure this one out without a "deathbed confession" Regards, Steve. Steve: I inherited several old Homicide cases and did solve some of them-I think it was possible to solve the case at the leadership level if not the shooter level-

Weird. why overcomplicate it-guys with the right creds and long guns could easily just disappear-all these super clandestine guns are difficult to use and impossible to explain away if dsicovered. A good bolt gun with a scope in the hands of some one in plain clothes or uniform could be explained away as part of security and then casually escape. Officialdom is still not exercised about people with secret service creds on the knoll. ear and eye witnesses are often problimatical AND remember this was preWatergate-we were for the most part political virgins.

Nancy doesn't understand people like Porter Goss or John Negroponte-operator's of the 1st order. other folks I know-"The Katzenjammer Kids" operate in a whole different world than little Nancy and her friends-they may investigate but need to remember the old Hell's Angels Motto-"Three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead." "Most human truths are fiction to God"

Welcome to the Forum Evan, As far as I am concerned you speak the plain, and obvious truth. We will have to figure this one out without a "deathbed confession" Regards, Steve. Yes. Plus the fact that if someone will murder--they'll probably lie. I just don't see plotters as fountains of truth. actually, many of them probably have/had a "moral code" they strictly adhered to-skewed, of course, but I've met a number of killers I would trust my kids with and some Church people I wouldn't. In 20yrs in Detroit PD I only met a handful of truely evil people and sadly many of them had badges. Subsequent to that I've met a ton-many in Federal employment.

All I could find was a (yawn!) thread from one of the alt.whatever.jfk newsgroups on this. I found some other Donald Willis stuff (e.g., "Fact After All: Tippit Shot With an Automatic"), but not that. Well, Harry's little bit there sort of shoots the O-giving-fake-address thing, as well as him giving his info to a cop and being told he could leave. I have to admit, though, it did have the ring of truth to it! Ah, but we're no longer certain that he gave a false address, as true to form as that may have been, are we. That he knew something seems pretty apparent, if only from his statement - if I'm remembering correctly that this happened at all - that "it will all come out at my trial," or words to that effect. Of course, if it did, it no doubt redoubled people's concerns about what he'd say about them, and sealed his fate ... if it hadn't been sealed already.I've read of some scenarios where Oz was supposed to have been an infiltrator of sorts - they "listen" pretty well, actually - in Dallas into the whole Fort Hood/Terrell Armory weapons thing. That would lend some sense to why he would have been set up as the patsy - a big "gotcha!" - and might even lend some credence to his getting into someone's car in DP and heading off to Oak Cliff: how could he refuse them? Like an undercover narc who's gotten into a big coke ring or something having to tag along for and even participate in killings to maintain the cartel's trust. But when all's said and done, I really can't imagine anything as to what did or even might have happened at TSBD with Oz after the shooting ... or after he knew there was a shooting. It's just unfathomable to me, I can't get into a dead man's head. Well, I guess that "whole Bircher crew" could include the Roy Trulys of the world. You can't forget the Walker group either, tho' I suspect they really didn't have anything to do with it, but that only from Walker's own attitude about it, having people checking into things and so forth: it almost seemed as if he knew more than the WC did!Have you ever read the testimony of Revilo Pendleton Oliver, "America's premier patriot and scholar?" If not, before you do, read his articles about the assassination first, particularly "Marxmanship in Dallas" and "The Aftermath of the Assassination." Actually, you can check out the website dedicated to his fond memory at revilo-oliver.com, which includes several recordings of his speeches. According to one site discussing his patriotism and scholarship, This book, which is one of many that Oliver wrote during his long career as an academic at the University of Illinois, deals with his association with the John Birch Society, an organization founded to fight Communism. Oliver was a founding member of this patriotic organization and he not only edited their flagship publication, American Opinion, but also wrote numerous book reviews and articles. Oliver also spent many years traveling the Birch speaking circuit, trying desperately to persuade Americans of the dangers of Communism and the values of conservatism. Eventually, Oliver became disillusioned by the conservative movement and John Birch founder Robert Welch, and he turned his energies to what he perceived were the real issues in the struggle against Communism: Jews and the complete ignorance of the white race to recognize its greatness and destiny. It would be gut-busting hilarious if he wasn't so god-awful serious. The man is Rush Limbaugh on steroids. Yes, please do. Yet every single cop failed to see a shotgun ... or to testify to seeing one anyway.As you read those accounts, you'll probably come across Pinky Westbrook's anecdote - which may be the same as above (underlined) - about how (ha-ha) one of the officers' hands was cuffed, someone apparently mistaking it for Oswald's. How, I don't know, it's not like Lee was dressed like a cop or detective. Did it have a gun in it at some point? Nobody who testified before the WC mentioned this incident other than Westbrook. I believe that it was either Thomas Hutson or C.T. Walker who also commented that someone wsa telling Oz to let go of the gun, and he'd responded "I can't" or "I'm trying," like he was unable to let loose of it. Interesting scenario. I'm guessing this will be in the installment about officers' testimonies about the goings-on at the theater? So, who killed him? I retired from Detroit Homicide and let me assure you nothing effects a cop like the murder of another officer-frankly, I think Tippit was killed to "encourage" responding officers not to take Oswald alive. I participated in a number of searches for cop killers and arrest was always the last and least preferred option.

another point that's always bothered me about LHO-he may have been a mediocre/lousy shot but he was a Marine when great emphasis was placed on rifle skills. He was a bright guy and certainly knew the MC was a piece of junk. If he was going to kill the President why not just steal a quality rifle? evan marshall www.stoppingpower.net another point that's always bothered me about LHO-he may have been a mediocre/lousy shot but he was a Marine when great emphasis was placed on rifle skills. He was a bright guy and certainly knew the MC was a piece of junk. If he was going to kill the President why not just steal a quality rifle? evan marshall www.stoppingpower.net

I keep reading hopeful, sometimes silly posts about the possibility one of the conspirators had a change of heart and some where a confession with evidence exists. I'm just a retired Homicide Sgt, but over the years have either worked with (in training assignments) or associated with retired members of the various clandestine services-I've become good friends with several AND NOT ONE OF THEM has ever expressed the slightest remorse over involvement in areas such as the death of Che' or Allende and they never will. Additionally, I've known others with rather detailed info re:some notorious incidents and again they'll go to their graves with the info. Do I believe that folks such as Phillips, Morales, Harvey, Werbell, Nonte, and Jack Cannon played a role-you bet. Do I expect we'll ever find proof from them that they did-nah. Evan Marshall www.stoppingpower.net "Most human truths are fiction to God."

Retired from the Homicide Section of the Detroit Police Dept in 1989 with the rank of Sgt-other assignments included: Crime Lab, Crime Scene Investigation, Tactical Unit, Dept Sniper, Training Sgt for the SWAT Team. Since retirement worked for several firms including Israel Military Industries and spent 5 yrs as a contract training specialist for Federal Agents who transport and secure weapons of mass destruction. I have a BA in History and an MA in Criminal Justice currently own Marshall's Shooting Center-a gun shop and indoor range in Midland, Michigan. Want to join because I was a sophmore at BYU in Provo, Utah on 11-22-63 and from the very beginning it did not fit together-read the 26 volumes several times and the conflict between conclusions and evidence is even greater. Having been assigned to Detroit Homicide twice in my career it became obvious it was never properly investigated and as a police sniper, its obvious LHO didn't shoot anyone. Married with 7 children and 32 grandchildren. I'm the coauthor of three best selling books on stopping power and have been a published writer in the firearms and law enforcement fields since the mid 70's.