Kathleen Collins

I watched the interview with Frank Sturgis. Wasn't he in Dealey Plaza that day? He claims that the man killed by Ruby was a Russian lookalike and that when Ruby killed him, they switched his body with the real Oswald's. So in other words, they also killed the real Oswald. I've seen autopsy photos of Oswald and Funeral Home photos. The man in the coffin, when viewed from a different angle, had a black eye, which they tried to disguise. So Rich D. proved to me that the man in the coffin was the man killed by Ruby. Now there's a body switch? The man in Oswald's grave is the real LHO and that's why the mother and the brother were really crying. Their son and brother was truly dead. I agree that Ruby killed a Russian agent. He never looked to me like an American, or spoke like one. I may be getting Frank Sturgis confused. Was he the first tramp? Was he the man who killed his parents in another state? Or was he on Houston St.? I will google him. He said that Castro, the KGB and American Intelligence killed Kennedy. And that Johnson and Hoover were very much afraid this would lead to a nuclear war if the public found out. (Can you picture Johnson telling Kennedy's Joint Chiefs of Staff not to go after Cuba? Kennedy was so afraid of them, he thought they would send a nuclear missile without telling him first.) So, according to Sturgis, they used Oswald to pacify the nation. Does anyone know how the real LHO died? And where did Russian Oswald's body go? I just wanted to know more about this and was surprised that no one seemed to be interested. Well, this will bring it to the top. Kathy C

That awful anniversary. We had a talking Mynah bird who died the same day. My mother came running into my room, yelling that Bobby Kennedy had been shot. She told my brother in the next room. He said don't tell Kathy. But I knew and I stayed up all night and even went to school that day. Because of my acute reaction -- it seemed to trigger something -- we didn't talk about the Kennedys. It was an unspoken rule. For decades. What a painful anniversary. Kathy C

This is what started a lot of trouble in this world: Religion. Personally, I follow no religious dogma. But I am very interested in Quantum Physics. I think that is the only way we'll ever find who we are and where we are; and why. Like Bob Dylan said: Don't follow leaders, watch the parking meters. Kathy C

I almost had a heart attack. Kathy C

Hey CK, Have read a little of Levanda's work online and do intend to read more in time. Marks did a get a file on the MC field experiment in hypnosis which occurred in July '63. According to it, the experiment was a total flop. I would suggest there was more happening than just one field test, but as you say, officially, there is not much to go on. Greg, you've probably seen this site. It pertains to a timeline and MKUltra in Mexico. http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/war/mk...ra_timeline.php

That about sums it up....but like so many aspects of this case that can not be resolved, the question that will always remain in my mind about this one is why there is a picture that even remotely looks like Oswald ( in the door) or GHW Bush ( on the street ) or Landsdale ( next to the "tramps") ? These are not figments of our imaginations! There are far too many of these "anomalies" for any rational person not to think that there is not a good possibility that they are the persons we suspect they are. Besides, this Altgen’s photo is prima facie evidence of Secret Service inaction. Shots were fired and the agents did nothing. Smoking gun big time. I agree. I consider "the man in the doorway" identity irrelevant UNLESS IT IS OSWALD...and this is not provable. I believe that saying it is Lovelady also has problems for many reasons. I consider the GHWB image identity very probable. I take Prouty's word (who worked with Lansdale for 5 years) to be conclusive. Jack Someone on this Forum said that the photo of Lovelady's face was possibly superimposed on the original photo. I remember when the picture came out people saying, "Is that Oswald?" Because we really didn't know what Oswald looked like. And people asking, "How could Oswald be standing in the doorway when he was supposed to be shooting the President"? It's like these things are thrown our way to confuse us. Didn't Altgens claim he never took that photo? Maybe he was afraid. Kathy C

So you went to all the trouble to become a Doctor of Jurisprudence, and then did not take the bar exam? Or did you take it and not pass? Jack Jack: Many people go to law school and never practice law. I don't know Dean's situation but many people who would have been great attorneys never pass the bar exam and there are idiots (some people might point to me) who do. There really is no rhyme or reason. In Michigan people who literally give up three or four years of their life and thousands of dollars never pass the exam. In Michigan about 70% pass it the first time and in retaking it your odds go way down. Remember how many times JFK Jr, failed the exam and the headlines "The Hunk Flunks." When I took the exam over two days there were people who had gone through law school, done well, taken a bar review course, got to the test, looked at it and literally stood up and walked out crying. I had a friend who gave up everything, took the bar exam once, and in almost thirty years could never bring himeself to take it again. Again, I have no knowledge of Dean's personal situation, but it does not impress me if one passes or fails the bar exam. I do have a respect and feel a fraternity for those who endured the law school experience. About one half of the people I started with did not finish law school. I am six hours short of the course work for completing a PHD in education and have a masters in educational leadership. However, that experience was "fun" compared to law school. Doug Weldon Geraldo Rivera has a law degree and never went that way; instead he decided to tell the news all the while making the news. He's a turncoat. He said LHO killed Pres. Kennedy and there was no conspiracy. And then he got the job as foreign coorespondant for FOX a week later. Can anything seem so obvious? He would not be welcomed in my home. Kathy C

Thanks for your appreciation. I couldn't resist. Kathy C

I went to the link you provided. It was a god------ sleazy website. Was that the best you could do? I couldn't get any info there because they wanted my email address to join. Why not a medical publication? Something with class and trustworthy medical knowledge. Not some lonely hearts boob talking to a teenager. Kathy C Prof. Fetzer, I am on the Internet for hours everyday looking things up. I did not look up circumcision. But I did go to the link where you sent us. When search engines receive a search phrase, a lot of summaries come up. Couldn't you have found somewhere in the results a better website to show us? I don't want to look at sleazy broads. And they wanted my email address so I could join. In other words, if I wanted to see the information you were providing, I'd have to join the site first. Can you not see this? Anyone going to that link would have to enter their email address -- and possibly pay something -- in order to learn about partial circumcision! So, congratulations. I guess you're a member there now. Lucky you! Kathy C

Yea, Let's get Marina and JVB on Jerry Springer! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Again, I'm sorry. I was referring to a claim by Prof. Fetzer that there was a beam attached to one of our satellites that made the WTC buildings fall faster than free fall. And I asked if anyone else believed that. Kathy C

Pamela, I think I didn't make my statement clearly. I was referring to there being a beam atop one of our satellites that Prof. Fetzer believed caused the WTC buildings to fall faster than free fall. It was his theory. It had nothing to do with circumcision. Sorry. Kathy C

I went to the link you provided. It was a god------ sleazy website. Was that the best you could do? I couldn't get any info there because they wanted my email address to join. Why not a medical publication? Something with class and trustworthy medical knowledge. Not some lonely hearts boob talking to a teenager. Kathy C

What I remember about Adele from Rich's Forum -- she was a dignified woman. I cannot believe she wrote the email above. I guess you would describe it as "gushing" and it's full of baloney. Kathy C

Perhaps Adele Edisen was not familiar, as I was, with "white" Cubans and "black" Cubans. The close-up photo in newsprint is definitely someone with black genes. He reminds me of Karyn Kupcinet's coroner, who really botched up. I was told the surgeon was black, but when I saw newspaper photos of him, he looked possibly Spanish. Judyth is now covering up some early lies she made to Adele. It's endless! Kathy C

Maybe she meant Morphine Sulphate? Kathy C

QUOTE (Garu BuellJudyth initially suggests that the 2001 email was perhaps invented. She maintains that she never used the americanwebworks address and later she questios the header. However @ eventually she acknowledges writing the email while mantaining that the circumcision paragraph was added or altered. But if there was an original email then why alter the web address or header? As Stephen Roy said earlier, Howard Platzman could perhaps settle this as he was copied on the email.Judyth says that "60 Minutes" had asked her the same question in 1999,which makes sense, and if she has any evidence as to her answer to them I would be most interested in seeing it. [ Professor Fetzer has said that the matter is moot as LHO was "partially circumcised."[/b] I do not find this argument persuasive. It seems to me that Judyth, if her claims are true, would answer "yes" or "no" on the question and not both at different times. -- Gary Buell Partial Circumcision. What a crock. I think Jim Fetzer would come up with anything to prove himself right. He's been far-fetched in the past when, imo, he said there was a beam placed on top of one of our satellites on Sept. 11 to bring the buildings down faster than free-fall. Does anyone else think this is a possibility? Maybe some do. To me it's "out there." If you don't see things his way, he attacks you, throughout this thread. Kathy C

When was "Oswald" at the Stevenson protest? What's the source for this? I never heard about that. Also, since I'm posting I might as well say this thread about Judyth has been hijacked. This shouldn't have been allowed to go on. And truthfully, I hate ballistics. Let's get back to Judyth or else just end it. Kathy C

Kathy: Jim agrees that Judyth is a "damaged" witness." " I agree that makes her a "damaged witness". It does not make her story false. " Doug Weldon " Right on all points, Doug. Kathy C

I am surprised that Ferrie introduced Judyth to "Sparky" Rubenstein. I have read no one ever called Ruby "Sparky" to his face, as it would lead to a brawl. He earned the nickname Sparky as a kid in Chicago. Anything could set him off. And he was the bouncer at his own club. FWIW, Jada, the exotic dancer, called him a "maniac." Kathy C

Wow, what an interesting story. I don't think you should feel guilt about this. The woman was probably being followed and they saw the 2 of you together several times, and they killed her because they didn't want the AIDS cure put out there. Pharmaceutical companies are ruthless, imo. They have the cure, and I wouldn't be surprised if they also have an antidote for cancer. The more people who get AIDS the more money these companes make. It's like Bell Helicoptor, etc. Keep the war going so the rich Texas men can have more money and control this country. I think your friend was kidnapped and murdered. I don't know why she was holding out for the highest bidder. People needed an antidote. She was living with a wealthy woman. Your description of the Mole world was unbelievable. Thanks for sharing that. Do the NY cops know about this place? Kathy C

Forum Members: I feel that Jim Fetzer wants to opt out of the discussion of Oswald's penis and call it a "moot" point because he doesn't want Judyth "damaged," a word Doug Weldon used. So Prof. Fetzer comes up with a compromise that Oswald had a "partial" circumcision. Greg Burnham -- says we are dehuminizing LHO. I don't think so. They even exhumed him. This is what is done when you're after the truth. That's what autopsies are about. That's what this forum is about. Kathy Beckett -- is disgusted. I'm not. I don't think the majority of members (no pun intended) here are offended. This info on Oswald is relevant for the 2 Oswalds theory. Judyth -- is either travelling or is sick. This is why her answer to this question defines her status here. And I think Jim and Judyth want to cover their tracks, Jim saying it is irrelevant, etc. He wants to drop the subject, yet he holds onto Judyth's other claims like a dog with a bone. Is he after truth? Kathy C

People who have seen this photo have been led to believe LHO was really there in that kitchen. LHO's picture was from when he was under arrest. Notice the handcuffs. This comparison photo leads people to believe that LHO is actually there with Robert. Kathy C

These are public records. Robert Lee Oswald lives at 2303 Antigua St, Wichita Falls, TX 76308. His other address is nearby: 2530 Shepherds Glen, etc. Phone #: 940-691-3519 at both residences. Kathy C

Post #6 Take a good look at the photo of Harvey and Robert. Notice in another picture Robert is in the same pose without Harvey, with Marina there. Now take a look at Harvey in the picture of the 2 brothers again. We see the right side of Harvey. I know this is going to seem strange, but Harvey has a cut on his forehead that occurred when he was arrested. Notice his eyes are closed. Could Intell have posed Harvey to put into the picture with Robert when Harvey was dead? But it looks like he still has handcuffs on. This is a fake picture. Kathy C