Kathleen Collins

I have to comment here. I believe there were 2 LHOs. But Harvey did not have a "Brooklynese" accent. We can hear him speak on 2 radio programs, a tape made in Russia and at the Dallas police dept. In this I am an expert. I have the most "Brooklynese" accent you'd ever want to hear. I grew up in West New York, NJ which is across the Hudson river from mid-town Manhattan. My parents came from Jersey City. In no way did Harvey speak like a New Yorker. A French accent speaking English sounds like a NY accent? My family came from Ireland. I don't know how our accents became what they were, but it's not French. I studied French in school. I recognize the accent. Not New York. Kathy C

I, for one, have claimed on this website that Robert Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald were not related. I had a discussion with another researcher about getting Robert Oswald's DNA and comparing it to one of Marina's children. One of the girls, probably June, would like to submit her DNA. I saw her say this on youtube. It's odd that Jack says Robert and Lee were interchangible as kids because they looked alike. This is not true -- maybe it depends on sight. The men did not look like each other. I would like Jack to show me pictures of their resemblance to one another. I maintain that the Lee who escaped from Dallas via airplane, to who knows where, was not the Lee killed by Ruby. It was the Lee who was the real brother to Robert Oswald. The one who became the "Patsy," was no relation. It was a CIA operation. Kathy C

Thank you for bringing this out. The Catholic Church wanted us in Viet Nam. Kennedy didn't. Kathy C

Acrobatics or gymnastics? Let me say I appreciate your answers and hope you will feel better soon. Kathy C

The photo on the left, in my very humble opinion, has been fooled with. The line right under the eyes tells me it's been tampered with. This is a fake picture. I believe the weight on the face is contrived, as is the hair. This is not Lee Oswald, imo. Kathy C

I am sorry that Judyth has eye problems. I, myself, have glaucoma. Can somebody get her to an eye doctor? Is she going blind because of glaucoma, cataracts, detached retina or diabetic retinopathy? Who is with her now from the Assassination community? Like Wim Dankbaar or somebody? Is there anyone there to help her? Doesn't she have any insurance or cash? This eye problem has gone on too long. Kathy C

Judyth, do you remember when you were on Rich's forum and I had just joined, I mentioned that Marina had said, according to Norman Mailer, that Lee had body odor even when he was clean? There was always a smell. And you said that came from the chemicals the two of you were working with? I don't consider asking you about papyrus off-topic. To me it's an investigation of your claims. If you were to tell a lie in one section of your "story," than you could lie in other areas of your autobiography. I do not know if you are being truthful or not, but I've noticed your answers are very well written. I have a suspicion that Jim Fetzer is writing these answers for you. Not making them up, but editing them because your writing differs here from your writing on Rich's forum. Especially in tone. Now I want to ask you another question. Some might see it as off-topic, but I don't imho. I hope I don't offend you. On the cover of one of your books -- I think Lee and Me -- there is a sexy picture of you. What were you doing in that photo? Dancing? Entertaining? Kathy C

Thanks, Judyth, for explaining this to me. You certainly answer the questions forthrightly. Before, on Rich's forum, you were very vague. Do you remember me writing to you when you were on Rich's forum? We weren't enemies. Kathy C

I don't dislike Judyth. But what she has said in the past makes me wonder. For example, the Mormons turned against her and followed her after she escaped Utah. Secondly, she was called over to Egypt to translate papyrus. I wish Judyth would explain these stories. The first story mentioned is a warning to stay away from organized religion, but I would still like the details. And the latter story makes me wonder how and where she learned to read papyrus. I know she is intellectually brilliant, but where did she get the knowledge of papyrus, and was she so good at it that someone in Egypt sent for her? Does she claim to have an anthropology degree? I would like these questions answered. But I won't hold my breath. I'm sorry Judyth is beset by health and financial problems. And I wish her well. I just wish she would explain the Mormons and the papyrus. Kathy C

I believe it was on this forum that Judyth came to when she left Rich's forum. She claimed that Rich had called her a "slut." I never knew Rich to call any woman something like that. But, wait a minute, yes, he liked to use the word "skank" which he reserved for Jada, the exotic dancer. Kathy C I object to that! Totally off topic. I know it doesn't matter "that I object" but I do. It will derail this thread if pursued. A pity. You kill me, Mink. Like your new name? I couldn't resist. (At least you're not a skank.) Kathy C

Sorry, Professor Fetzer. Norman Mailer wrote about Oswald's dyslexia in his book Oswald's Tale, published in 1995. And I did respond to Judyth. Kathy C

I believe it was on this forum that Judyth came to when she left Rich's forum. She claimed that Rich had called her a "slut." I never knew Rich to call any woman something like that. But, wait a minute, yes, he liked to use the word "skank" which he reserved for Jada, the exotic dancer. Kathy C

Rich only had moderators for a very brief time. He decided to start that on a "trial" basis...and later decided against it. It wasn't just you, Kathy--he discontinued a moderated forum in general, as he thought it had been running fine (even better) before he had moderators. I was never technically a "moderator" --and didn't want to be. But, without citing details, you were banned for an accumulation of reasons. Actually, that's an over-statement. There was "Judyth bashing" reasons (to which Rich uncharacteristically turned a blind eye at first) and losing your temper as you stated on a different topic that you were moderating. Hey, it's ancient history now. I'm glad you're here. Thanks for identifying yourself--I really wasn't talking about Barb. ) I miss Rich, too. GO_SECURE monk Mink, I only "bashed" Judyth when I was new and heard that she was claiming she had a love affair with Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald is not a guy I'd want to wake up to. I thought it funny. The strangest website I'd ever seen was Judyth's. A large photo of Oswald's mug shot and Judyth showing her paintings and telling about her love for Oswald. Anyway, you called me out on it. I don't think that Judyth recalls how I would write to her and ask her why she couldn't tell Rich's Forum more than she did, always complaining she was sick. We had a brief coorespondance. She told me she wasn't going to be around for sometime, but she told me an email address where I could write to her and she said she would always respond. That never happened, Mink. And as you know, neither Oswald nor Judyth did anything to stop the assassination. Two people could have stopped the Kennedy Assassination but didn't. The Secret Service didn't either. Furthermore, Mink, you know I believe in Harvey and Lee. Harvey was shot by Ruby. Lee later that day wound up at Redbird Airport: Destination Unknown -- with Plumlee? Kathy C

Rich did have moderators. I was one of them. One night I screwed up by losing my temper -- in the category I was supposed to be moderating. My second expulsion from there. People thought I was an "agent provocateur." He called me the Manchurian Candidate. I'll always miss Rich. Kathy C

If you would like to see Karyn Kupcinet, she's on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enoyNF5c-iA She is in the audience with Steve Allen. It's the Jerry Lewis Show Premiere Pt 2, 1963. She appears at 6:42 in the video. The whole video is about 11 minutes.

I think this is the longest thread ever held in John Simkin's forum. I am skimming it, so I apologize if this question has been asked already. What did Oswald do to save Kennedy's life? How stupid was Oswald? The Presidential motorcade was going to pass where he worked -- didn't he find that suspicious? Handing out leaflets, doing 2 radio shows about communism, etc. Didn't he realize covert agencies were painting him red? He was practically the only one in the TSBD who didn't go out and watch the President go by. Didn't he hear the shots? Now, what did he do to save Kennedy? Stand there drinking a coke? If he really wanted to be a hero, why didn't he run in front of the limo, yelling, "They're going to kill you," and cover Kennedy's head? Of course the Secret Service would have killed him. But he did nothing to stop the shooting. Kathy C

Thank you, Bernice. I wondered if Timothy Cheek was photographed. He looks like he is crying. Kathy C

What is that big white-out in the photo? Kathy C

Robert Oswald is a xxxx. He should take a blood test for DNA and compare it to one of his "nieces,'" Marina's 2 daughters by Lee Harvey Oswald. Kathy C

The man is saluting the priest as he just handed him the folded flag. Kathy C

Then why not bring him back and start with a clean slate on both sides? Kathy C

This still makes my blood boil. Dick Gregory was on the Mike Douglas Show in 1981, I believe. And he was talking about the conspiracies. And then he lost me and I declare him totally unreliable. He said that Jackie had much to do with the Assassination and that she's been secretly travelling back and forth to Dallas for years. Recently, I had 2 girlfriends individually tell me that Jackie had something to do wih Kennedy's Assassination because she was mad at him for having girlfriends on the side, particularly Marilyn Monroe. It seems she felt guilt when Monroe died and her husband had a hand in it. Also, the Kennedy Bros were punished for Monroe by being assassinated (as an act of God). Kathy C

Of course you can be a member of both forums. I don't mind you passing on stories about me being a disinformation agent. The idea is so daft that it is funny. Rich took this view after I was booted of his forum for having the nerve to criticise the dominant ideology of his forum. This seems to be the normal strategy of JFK Forums. In the UK we take freedom of speech more seriously. I never knew you were on his forum. He didn't tell me. Some individuals will not like this, but I felt it was a one-opinion site. If I didn't agree with something he said, he would get mad at me. Like Harvey and Lee. I believe it -- 2 Oswalds. But I still thought that the man who went to Russia didn't come back. Another similar-looking man came back. Robert Oswald said, "I couldn't believe how much hair he lost!" Harvey was not related to Robert Oswald; and his 2 kids were not the nieces of Robert Oswald. We talked of some plan to prove this by getting Robert's DNA and compare it to the DNA of one of Harvey's daughters. Of course that didn't happen. Rich's health problems escalated, as did his growing dislike of me. Eventually, Harvey and Lee came along and I told him I thought Harvey, shot by Ruby, was really Russian. This didn't sit well with him now. But he'd go back and forth. Why did he want Robert's DNA if Harvey was truly his brother and not a Russian? Then he attacked my findings on the Internet of Donald O. Norton pictures from a fishing and boating business, which also included "Ralph Geb." I typed in his name later on and found out that Geb was involved in the assassination! I had never heard of him before. He may have been impersonating Oswald toward the end there. Rich called my Donald O. Norton stuff "garbage." Someday I'd like to post some of these things here. Donald O. Norton drove me nuts. And I couldn't share it with anyone. But Rich was a great guy if he liked you. Now he's gone and I feel like I've been hit in the stomach by his passing. I didn't mean to call you names, John, but I think I explained why I did. Rich also felt that Europeans knew more about the Kennedy Assassination than we Americans. They knew almost immediately that it was a coup d'etat. Rich greatly honored John F. Kennedy. He felt it was his calling to unearth evidence and discuss the Assassination. Kathy C

I always surprised that you have been posting comments on the Deep Politics Forum suggesting that I am a disinformation agent. If you really believe that I am not sure what you are doing remaining a member of this forum. The reason people post on this forum as it provides a large audience for their views. I suspect that while that continues they will continue to post of this forum while spreading lies about me on other forums. Enjoy. John Simkin, I didn't mean anything bad about you. I quoted someone else, whom I hold in high regard and who died last week. Everyone has opinions about everyone else. And being CTs, we do get paranoid. I like this forum -- as I'm allowed to ask questions. But getting rid of Peter Lemkin, and now David Healy. I wish it could be handled more democratically by putting it to a vote of the members, not the moderators. I was under stress when I posted about disinfro, as I was at my brother's house in another state and he is critically ill. I was trying to sooth Peter, as in "if it's any comfort, so-and-so thought this about the person you had a falling out with." I wasn't being passive-aggressive towards you. I was just being me. I'm still under Rich's spell and I still protest Peter Lemkin's exit. But I want to stay on this forum. At least Bernice is still here. When I joined, Kathy Becket told me I could join other JFK sites as well. Two days ago, I joined the Deep Politics forum. Do I have to choose between that forum and this one? Kathy C

I haven't looked him up yet but I met a member of President Kennedy's honor guard. I think he said he was a marine. His name was Tim Cheek and he worked as an Allstate Insurance man in Holiday, FL in the '90's. My father and I were his clients. He retired over a decade ago and I can't say for sure if he's alive, but I believe he is. Here's a bit about him. Can anyone post the "famous" photo on him? I'll keep looking -- but am I off topic? http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resou...Pallbearers.htm Kathy C I just want to share a picture I found of President Kennedy's funeral. This is an aerial photo of his coffin in St. Matthew's Cathedral. I never saw this photo before. I don't recall ever seeing a photo inside the Cathedral. Kathy C