Anthony Thorne
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I wonder if they just misspelled ‘fired’. ‘Fried’ is good too though.
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I didnt see any redactions in this version. I could be wrong. I’d never heard of Wilcott’s testimony till this morning btw. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca/secclass/pdf/Wilcott_3-22-78.pdf
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Man from Texas arrested drunk in 1965 shouts "I had something to do with President Kennedy's death" - ex Air Force 1949-1952 from Beaumont Texas - Gabriel Lopez Guerrero
Guerrero is also mentioned in this document below (released earlier, I believe). It ends with authorities trying to ascertain if he worked at the Benjamin Franklin Library on the day of Kennedy's murder.
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32125890.pdf
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Lots of FBI stuff. Didn’t see any CIA.
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Okay, I see where they got it now.
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/finding-aids/garrison-papers.html
In Box 1 of the section titled - Investigative Files received from New Orleans District Attorney Harry Connick - it says 'these materials are now available to researchers'. They have quite a lot listed. I'm not sure if any of this is newly available, or just old stuff that is newly listed online however.
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It turned up on Facebook today in the discussion threads of a few researchers, with someone saying they had 'just received it from NARA'. I wasn't aware NARA was receptive to dishing stuff out like this through FOIA requests or the like, so how that person acquired it is a puzzle. It's not my upload, btw. The clip I've linked is what was posted on Facebook this morning.
I thought it sounded more like Garrison reading the document at first, but I've never heard Ferrie so couldn't tell. Funny stuff.
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I can’t interpret what this is and would like further comment. Denis Moricet reportedly just received this from NARA (how?). It’s a Garrison-era recording, either of Ferrie or of someone reading a Ferrie statement. Important - on YouTube, adjust the playback settings to a slightly faster playback speed, as this audio is slowed somewhat.
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Gladio was a Dulles-approved project partially conceived and run by Frank Gardiner Wisner, who gets a mention in Ganser's NATO'S SECRET ARMIES as the 'architect of Gladio'. Cottrell's book, which I own, is a bit of a mess. Robin Ramsay (of the UK Lobster research site) tore Cottrell's book to pieces in his disappointed review. A lot of assertions, not enough footnotes or backup to how and where he got his data. Philip Wilan's THE PUPPETMASTERS is older, but maybe better.
Jeffrey Bale's 1994 thesis on Valerio Borghese covers some of the same territory, looking at the Gladio years with him in the foreground. It's unpublished, but a PDF finally leaked online a year or two ago. Peter Dale Scott supervised Bale during the writing of it.
https://www.scribd.com/document/3625...egy-of-Tension
I can't remember if I've linked this here before. Foreign Service Officer Peter Bridges (later the US ambassador to Somalia), did a long oral history interview. His department head at Middlebury College in 1953 was Dimitri von Mohrenschildt, brother of George.
http://www.adst.org/OH TOCs/Bridges, Peter S.toc.pdf
George does pop up in some online articles about Gladio, notably these two. For the second of the two links, I'd suggest you stop reading once you get to discussion of Sibel Edmonds and 'Gladio B'. It's an unproven label for an unproven project that exists solely on her say so, and she's never given any direct evidence for it. The stuff on Gladio, however - which is documented, and proven - is useful.
http://americanjudas.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/george-de-mohrenschildt-and-paines.html
http://americanjudas.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/the-defense-intelligence-agency-dia.html
Peter Bridges later served at various embassies, and worked for some oil companies on the side. Then Wikileaks published a leaked embassy cable a few years ago that implicated Bridges in the Gladio activities that were ongoing in Italy through the early 70's. Though he isn't mentioned in the below cable, Borghese popped up in and around the Gladio story in Italy, and the aborted Golpe Borghese government coup of December 1970 was named after him. The domestic investigations into Gladio conducted years after the event all made a point of acknowledging the role that NATO and US intelligence played in stirring things up through the period.
https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cabl...ME03261_b.html
QuoteISSUE OF SENSATIONAL WEEKLY NEWS JOURNAL QUOTE PANORAMA UNQUOTE CARRIED SCURRILOUS COVER STORY ENTITLED QUOTE THE FASCIST POISON UNQUOTE LINKING THE RIGHT-WING MSI, THE CIA, AND FSO PETER BRIDGES (ASSIGNED ROME 1966 TO 1971) IN PLOT ALLEGED TO INCLUDE 1969 PIAZZA FONTANA (MILAN) BANK BOMBING WHICH TOOK 16 LIVES AND INJURED 88 OTHERS. STORY ALLEGES PLOT AND BOMBING INTENDED TO SPARK SWING TO RIGHT IN PUBLIC OPINION TO PERMIT RIGHT-WING "CHANGE OF COURSE." CHANNELS OF FUNDS TO SUPPORT MSI IN GENERAL, AND THEREFORE CONSPIRACY ALSO, WERE NAMED AS ROME OFFICES OF FEED GRAINS COUNCIL, MERRILL LYNCH, AND CONTINENTAL ILLINOIS BANK OF CHICAGO (LINKED IN STORY TO MICHELE SINDONA). ARTICLE IS BEING TRANSLATED AND WILL BE POUCHED TO ADDEES ASAP.
2. FEED GRAINS COUNCIL HAS INFORMED US THEY CONSIDERING LEGALACTION AND HAVE ASKED ADVICE. EMBASSY IS RESPONDING WITH ADVICE NOT TO DIGNIFY AND ENCOURAGE REPLAY OF ARTICLE BY ANY VOLUNTEERED REBUTTAL OR LEGAL ACTION, BUT TO CATEGORICALLY AND EMPHATICALLY DENY STORY (UNDERSCORE) IF ASKED (END UNDERSCORE). FCC WILL BE TOLD EMBASSY WILL SAY NOTHING PUBLICLY BUT IF ASKED WILL REPLY TO ANY PRESS QUERY WITH STATEMENT THAT STORY IS QUOTE TOTALLY WITHOUT FOUNDATION AND NOT WORTHY OF REPLY UNQUOTE. TO QUESTIONS BY OTHERS THAN PRESS, EMB OFFS WILL LABEL ARTICLE AN OUTRAGEOUS LIE.Researchers can use the link between Gladio and the aforementioned Illinois bank to join other dots. Nixon-era Treasury secretary David Kennedy, the chairman of that bank, later testified at a criminal trial to having held a long relationship with Michele Sindona. Sindona gets a mention in Jeffrey Bale's just released book, THE DARKEST SIDE OF POLITICS - POSTWAR FASCISM, COVERT OPERATIONS, AND TERRORISM. That volume only came out a month ago, and there are no online reviews for it yet. Much of it is an expanded version of Bale's thesis above, but with substantial new details on Aginter Press and the Borghese coup.
Frank Wisner's son - Frank G. Wisner, Jr - seems to have had a role in more recent deep events, but that's another story. Philip Willan is working on a big book on the Aldo Moro assassination, and will probably have more material on Gladio in it when it appears. He also touches on some of the players in his overlooked 2013 book THE VATICAN AT WAR, linked below. He speaks fluent Italian and lives and works among Italian researchers. I asked him a couple of years ago if any new material had appeared within the archives over there on guys like William Harvey, who were active for a period in Italy during the Gladio years. He said a few tidbits had, but not much.
Some of the networks surrounding Gladio are discussed to an extent in Kruger's THE GREAT HEROIN COUP, which was reprinted in updated form a year or two ago. Peter Dale Scott did an intro for it back in the day. The original volume was published in the late 70's. The new edition was updated for 2016, quite a while later.
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That comes alongside Google and Facebook reportedly de-emphasising (or worse) left wing and alternative news and journalism sites. RT, which shows lots of good stuff, is being targeted at the same time.
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Some thoughts, and a few documents of interest linked here. There is lots of redacted stuff though. I mean, lots of it.
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The detail about a party and possible affair is already present in the copy of the document on the Mary Ferrell site.
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Some limited documents have now been released. We get a lot of stuff that previously had minor redactions. Documents previously withheld in full, are still, for the most part, being withheld in full.
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Press release on 6 month holding period for some documents.
https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/nr18-05
October 2017 document releases. These aren't in ZIP form, but PDF's that are ready to read.
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/2017-releaseDocuments 'formerly withheld in full' begin appearing at the link below, but not consistently, and the October 2017 document releases conclude one page later. All later documents are from the July batch.
https://www.archives.gov/research/jf...elease?page=56
The documents withheld for release today seem to be nearly all of the 'formerly withheld in full' documents. There should be many, many more. Stuff like the Angleton HSCA transcript is not here. -
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Quoteofficial accounts might be slightly adjusted on investigations, locations and suspects
Suspects, plural? If he's conceding that there's more than one potential suspect, he's conceding the whole ball game, yet his article sticks with throwing mud at 'conspiracy buffs'. Kampmark has written good things on other topics, but I'm concerned that he's going to be spouting this rubbish about the JFK assassination to his students.
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Kampmark teaches at my old school in Melbourne. He's a smart guy, but not at all on this subject, and his article is idiotic.
Trump just tweeted about the files again, btw.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/923277142271684609
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So, years before Baker peddled nonsense, Rocca was peddling some similar rubbish. Like others here I hope the next batch of archival releases are better.
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We should put together a GoFundMe or Kickstarter to help buy the CIA some new printer toner for their office room.
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Very annoying redaction
http://documents.theblackvault.com/d...D-32271723.PDF
The document titled OUTLINE - LHO, THE CIA AND MEXICO CITY is represented by just a single page,
Document Withdrawal Notice, Release Delayed Pending Coordination.
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It varies. I couldn't get through last night, then grabbed the first zip file a while ago.
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I posted a few comparisons on this page at Deep Politics Forum, from the first (previously censored, now released in full) zip archive.
Page 2 of CIA cable to Mexico 'Re Passing Info to Warren Commission'
Redacted version at Mary Ferrell site is here, redactions on page 2.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc....eId=2&tab=page
First sentence of redacted version reads
1. OUR PRESENT PLAN IN PASSING INFO TO WARREN COMMISSION IS TO ELIMINATE MENTION OF [REDACTED].
The uncensored version reads
1. OUR PRESENT PLAN IN PASSING INFO TO WARREN COMMISSION IS TO ELIMINATE MENTION OF TELEPHONE TAPS, IN ORDER TO PROTECT YOUR CONTINUING OPS.
The other deletions on the page are code-names, no names are mentioned.
And from the Mary Ferrell site - MEMO NO. 9 - GARRISON AND THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.h...eId=5&tab=page
Page 5 is redacted.
"Martin was a [redacted] when he was a Director of International Relations and World Trade of International House in New Orleans"
The uncensored version reads
"Martin was a DCS contact and source in 1964 and 1965 when he was a Director of International Relations and World Trade of International House in New Orleans"
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The head archivist, discussing the releases in a mainstream interview a few months back, stated that the October date was a final deadline, but that they would probably start releasing some of the material in batches from the middle of the year. That said, this first batch is right on schedule.
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The National Archives have just released the first batch of long awaited 2017 JFK documents, with more to follow. 3810 documents have been released, 441 of those were previously withheld in full, the rest present unredacted versions of previously censored documents. The first batch comes to many gigabytes of material. I'm on a phone so can't post a link but there is a lot of stuff now awaiting the attention of researchers. JFK Facts has the story and Jeff Morley is going through documents and will update the site with info soon. It's happening folks.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N7YNXQ6
I believe this means all three of the new/revised books are now up on Kindle. Volume 3 of the JFK series will be titled INTO THE STORM and will hopefully pop up sometime next year.
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John says the Kindle version of the Vietnam book has just become available today. The link is below.
My interview on FightBox about JFK, Tippit, new documents, etc.
in JFK Assassination Debate
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Great, thank Joseph, will check this out. I’ll also post the link on Twitter when I get a chance. My posts and links on the files there have been gaining a surprising amount of traffic - a recently BAFTA nominated director began following me solely due to JFK stuff, which was surprising.