Vince Palamara

THAT I am not sure of.

Well, that just goes to show that he WAS a real person (as was Inez), although he obviously didn't die (but allegedly disappeared). I am inclined to believe that this was merely a ruse to invoke federal jurisdiction, as the murder of a president was not then a federal crime (just a state---Texas---crime), but the murder of an AGENT was a federal crime. It makes you think but there has never been a solid candidate for the dead agent. I know- I looked for one.

The agent you are referring to at the end: Oh, yes--I am much aware of these reports. Lengthy excerpt from my first book SURVIVOR'S GUILT: Secret Service/PRS employee James K. “Jack” Fox: Information obtained by the late agent’s sole confidante, researcher/disc jockey Mark Crouch. Crouch provided several autopsy photos obtained by Fox to director Oliver Stone for use in the movie JFK, and to director Wolfgang Peterson for In The Line of Fire, among other projects). During interviews conducted on 1/28/92 and 9/23/92 respectively, the author obtained startling new information. First, some necessary background is needed: All three major television networks,ABC, NBC, & CBS, reported that, “A Secret Service agent and a Dallas policeman were shot and killed” on 11/22/63. Eddie Barker, of CBS affiliate KRLD-TV, noted, “The word is that the President was killed, one of his agents is dead, and Governor Connally was wounded.” ABC News in Washington reported, “A Secret Service agent apparently was shot by one of the assassin’s bullets.” ABC’s Bill Lord stated, “ [I] did confirm the death of the secret service agent … one of the Secret Service agents was killed … Secret Service agents usually walk right beside the car,” And that, “One of the Secret Service agents traveling with the President was killed today.” The Associated Press (AP) was quoted on WFAA (ABC):”A Secret Service agent and a Dallas policeman were shot and killed some distance from where the President was shot.” At 12:45 p.m. CST, KRLD-TV reported that a Secret Service agent had been killed along with the President. At 1:23 p.m., CST, CBS’s Walter Cronkite reported, “A Secret Service man was also killed in the fusillade of shots.” 219 Clues To The Contingency Seth Kantor, a reporter for Scripps-Howard, would write in his notebook, which was published by the Warren Commission “They even have to die in secret.”26 At 2:14 p.m., the AP again made note: “A Secret Service Agent and a Dallas policeman were shot and killed today.” At 2:40 p.m., The Dallas Police radio, channel two, also carried the story: “One of the Secret Service men on the field—Elm and Houston, said that it came over his Teletype that one of the Secret Service men had been killed.”27 The Dallas Times Herald, dateline November 22, 1963, added, “From the Secret Service office in Dallas—a spokesman could neither confirm or deny the report: ‘All I’ve heard is the same reports you’ve heard’.” However, at 3:40 p.m. Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Robert A. Wallace reported, “No Secret Service man was injured in the attack on President Kennedy,” a denial of sorts, but it does not indicate if one was killed, or if there was violence at another location. Still, these stories could have supplied the Secret Service with the much-needed jurisdiction to take over and steal the body of JFK from the Dallas authorities, which in fact is what they did. Remember, while the murder of the President was not a federal crime in 1963, the murder of a Secret Service agent was.28 Perhaps this explains the proliferation of the tale of the “dead” agent on 11/22/63. However, this author learned from Crouch that Agent Fox stated that the story was true! According to Crouch, Fox29 was working in the Executive Office Building, where the PRS was headquartered, on 11/22/63, when he was asked by SAIC of PRS Robert Bouck to ready a detail of four to six agents to assist in retrieving the body and casket of the unnamed Secret Service agent. Fox told Crouch, “We lost a man that day – our man,” and qualified his remarks by stating that he was not referring to JFK.30 And though she had heard the news reports that the President’s limousine raced to Parkland Hospital after the shooting, Mrs. Bill Greer thought for several hours that her husband had perished that day! Since she knew that Greer was the driver of JFK’s car, this appears to be a strange admission.31 Interestingly, journalist Seth Kantor reported, “A Western Union man who had been with us since we came down from Andrews Air 220 Survivor’s Guilt Force Base came into the [Parkland Hospital] office. A nurse asked him about a report that a Secret Service agent had been killed out on the street. He said that it was true. This was one of the immediate rumors, which sprung up. It took several days for this particular rumor not to be believed in Dallas itself (Fellow in Jaggars-ChilesStovall who got it from a friend who got it from a postman supposed to have been at the death scene that the shot and bleeding SS man was in on the plot to kill the President.)” [emphasis added]32 Jaggars-Chiles-Stoval employed Lee Harvey Oswald from 10/12/62 until 4/6/63. This company did photographic work for the U-2 spy program, and Oswald’s starting date of employment coincided with the Cuban Missile Crisis.33 Nurse Bertha Lozano wrote in her report that, in addition to JFK and Connally, “A technician came to the desk and asked me to expect a private patient who was bleeding … Blood technicians came to ask me who ‘Mr. X’ was who did not have an E.R. number. Hematology also came with the same problem and was told the same thing.”34 Jerry Coley of the Dallas Morning News, his friend Charles Mulkey, Dallas Morning News photographer Jim Hood, and WFAA cameraman Malcolm Couch saw a significant pool of blood between the Texas School Book Depository and the pergola on the knoll.35 Author Harrison Livingstone reported in his 2000 online book, Stunning New Evidence, that Jim Pearsu of the Secret Service believed there was indeed a dead agent. Regarding the “postman” and other information noted by reporter Kantor, The 1/22/77 issue of The Continuing Inquiry journal contains an article written by Penn Jones and Gary Shaw regarding the dead agent incident as reported in a letter sent to Jim Garrison during the Clay Shaw trial: “A Mr. Robertson, Assistant Director of the Dallas or Fort Worth Secret Service office, confided to [friend of writer who requested anonymity] in 1963 that a plot to kill President Kennedy was planned and he did not want any part of it. On November 22, 1963, my friend was in the office of Mr. Robertson when all phones began to ring, about the time Kennedy was arriving at Carswell Air Force Base [in Fort Worth], Mr. Robertson then said, ‘Well, this is it’ and left the office. Since that time Mr. Robertson’s family of seven children and wife have not seen or heard from him, yet his paychecks continue to be mailed to his home. Our 1965 investigation lead us to believe Robertson was 221 Clues To The Contingency in Dallas but was posing as a postal inspector, but it was reported to us that he had left Dallas. We also learned from newsmen that something unusual did happen on Harwood [street] shortly before the turn to Main Street. No one wanted credit for this, but we were told by reliable newsmen that a man jumped in front of Kennedy’s car on Harwood shouting, ‘Stop, I must tell you.’ The man, according to their report, was promptly wrestled to the ground and hustled away.” [emphasis added] To the author’s great surprise, there are three reports that seem to corroborate the above article, in conjunction with the overlooked Kantor report: The first is the actual letter sent to Garrison from an “Amy Britvar” dated 2/21/68 and originating from Turtle Creek Blvd. in Dallas, Texas.36 An internet people-search for Britvar drew a blank, although there are other Britvars in Texas. The second is a Treasury Department (U.S. Customs Service) document, dated 1/17/80, from Joseph G. Forrester, U.S. Customs, to Attorney General Benjamin R. Civiletti.37 The letter reads in part, “My interest in the Kennedy murder started in 1966 when I met an Air Force Master Sergeant at St. Albans Naval Hospital, Queens, New York. This sergeant, an elderly man, was suffering from terminal cancer. He stated that on November 22,1963 he was attached to Air Force One as an electronics technician. He further stated that after the President was shot a message was received over a military frequency that multiple assassins had attacked the President … a Secret Service agent, Mr. Robertson, stationed in the Dallas-Fort Worth area disappeared on November 22, 1963 yet his family still receives his paychecks. The disappearance of an individual is not unusual except that it has been said that Mr. Robertson became aware of an assassins plot against the president. An assassin plot had been unearthed in Chicago a short time before President Kennedy’s Dallas trip. Please do not misconstrue this letter. I am not a crank; but I am sincerely interested in this crucial investigation. I am willing to join an investigative team and if that is not possible, will make myself available for an interview by investigative officers.” The third is a lengthy memorandum written by Vince Salandria, dated 1/31/67, regarding an interview with Rita Rollins, a Navy nurse with an interesting story to tell. The crucial part reads, “The name of the person in Dallas … is Inez Robertson. Chuck Robertson, her husband, works at the post office … Inez Robertson, actually 222 Survivor’s Guilt saw them [men with guns] make a breakdown of the rifles. This tall man with long grey or white hair [-] he was in the station wagon. There is a luggage rack on the station wagon. It was a Rambler station wagon. This fellow with the mixed grey hair carried them [the armed men] to the airport … This tall man had been around Dallas the day before the assassination … This episode has caused friction between Chuck Robertson and Inez Robertson. He is not in Dallas now.”3

No problem

THAT was such a weird yet exhilarating moment when I interviewed his only son (child) Richard. "What did your father think of JFK?" No response; super awkward. I went on to ask other questions which he was happy to answer at length. I then returned to the question "What did your father think of JFK?" He then answered: "Well, we're Methodists...and JFK was Catholic." (!)

Thanks for the info!

Agreed! Definitely.

Thanks! No--JUST Hill! No one else. Lawson and Sorrels from the lead car. Greer and Kellerman from the limo. Only Hill from the follow-up car. Rufus Youngblood from LBJ's limo.

-JFK, Jackie + Secret Service agents Clint Hill, Roy Kellerman & Don Lawton -Best President Kennedy moments -WFAA announcer talking about the McKinley assassination?!?! RARE: Best moments from the presidential breakfast in Fort Worth TX 11/22/63

Thanks a lot, Jim; my pleasure!

Judging by the rabid interest I receive from my You Tube channel alone, interest is alive and well. A part of my brain has always wondered (post 20th century, post 9/11, post 50th anniversary, etc.) when a time will come when people will lose interest. Then it dawned on me: have people "lost interest" in WWI? WW II? The Civil War? Lincoln's life and his death [look at the amazing reaction to the 2012 film "Lincoln"]? I feel there will always be a strong interest in the case. There are so many audio/visuals of Kennedy's life and death that this helps from it feeling "ancient", as well [not to mention the millions of people around the world who still remember his life and death at the time]. He is also our last assassinated president---it is not like Garfield or McKinley: their deaths have largely receded from an interest standpoint. They also weren't young, beloved, and the visuals regarding them are very few and far between (and they DO look ancient...because they are!). NOTE: there is still ONE major Kennedy resource out there that hasn't been mined: JFK's complete and uncut press conferences---ALL of them; black and white broadcast quality video. The networks (and/or JFK Library?) have to have them. I don't mean all the snippets...all the actual uncut conferences. It is 2022 and they are still not out.

Greer was a trained driver. He may not have had the intensive training that modern agents have had as a RESPONSE to his horrible inaction, but he most definitely was trained and was a veteran driver for Truman, Ike, and JFK 1961-11/22/63. Inspector Thomas Kelley confirmed that he received training during his testimony before the HSCA.

The ladder goes forward!

@Greg Doudna My apologies! Let's all get along! Thanks, Kirk.

Thanks!

Former Secret Service agent Mike Howard is telling tall tales again: Lee Harvey Oswald’s little green book shows JFK wasn't the real target - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com) In the hours after the Kennedy assassination, after Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit and was identified as the president’s assassin, a Secret Service officer named Mike Howard was dispatched to Oswald’s apartment. Howard found a little green address book, and on its 17th page under the heading “I WILL KILL” Oswald listed four men: an FBI agent named James Hosty; a right-wing general, Edwin Walker; and Vice President Richard Nixon. At the top of the list was the governor of Texas, John Connally. Through Connally’s name, Oswald had drawn a dagger, with blood drops dripping downward. This is the same guy who fabricated a story that a janitor saw LHO pull the trigger: https://vincepalamara.com/2017/07/27/update-with-news-article-secret-service-agent-mike-howards-tall-tale-to-match-blaine/ Secret Service agent Mike Howard and brother Pat deliberately planted story that a janitor saw LHO pull trigger25 H 721-722, 725, 844-850:re: Secret Service agent Mike Howard and brother Pat and the allegation that they deliberately planted story that a janitor saw LHO pull trigger [see the link to the pages quoted above from volume 25] Check out the scathing comments for Mr. Howard under this video on You Tube. Howard loves them tall tales to weave for the gullilbe! ALSO: Secret Service agent Gerald Blaine (years later, author of THE KENNEDY DETAIL, a book I have a lot of trouble with, as I have noted many times) was interviewed by William Manchester for THE DEATH OF A PRESIDENT on 5/12/1965, as the source notes of the book confirm. Blaine confirmed to me that he was indeed interviewed by Manchester when I spoke to him in 2005. Yet, the index does not list anything he said in the actual book, as Blaine does not exist in either the actual text or the index; his comments are invisible to the reader, unlike the other agents who were interviewed and sourced accordingly. More importantly, Blaine NOW denies that he ever spoke to Manchester. Why? Because I realized a famous quote attributed to fellow Secret Service agent Floyd Boring that allegedly originated from JFK on 11/18/63 ("Keep those Ivy League charlatans off the back of the car") was not true. Boring was not interviewed for the book, as there is no interviewed sourced AND Boring was adamant to me that he never spoke to Manchester and that THIS WAS NOT TRUE. Also, on video, Blaine confirms that Boring was not interviewed for the book! In fact, during the 28-mile motorcade (far longer than the 11-mile Dallas motorcade), JFK's longest domestic motorcade, agents Don Lawton and Chuck Zboril were on the back of the limo for the grand majority of the trip and were only not on the back of the car during the final stretch of the motorcade when they were heading back to the airport at high speeds. This had 0.0 to do with any alleged order. I strongly believe Blaine was THE SOURCE for this fairy tale and a) the lack of a transcript and b) his later-day denials are troubling, to put it mildly:

Agent Howard is a man of dubious credibility, to put it mildly. Former Secret Service agent Mike Howard is telling tall tales again: Lee Harvey Oswald’s little green book shows JFK wasn't the real target - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com) In the hours after the Kennedy assassination, after Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit and was identified as the president’s assassin, a Secret Service officer named Mike Howard was dispatched to Oswald’s apartment. Howard found a little green address book, and on its 17th page under the heading “I WILL KILL” Oswald listed four men: an FBI agent named James Hosty; a right-wing general, Edwin Walker; and Vice President Richard Nixon. At the top of the list was the governor of Texas, John Connally. Through Connally’s name, Oswald had drawn a dagger, with blood drops dripping downward. This is the same guy who fabricated a story that a janitor saw LHO pull the trigger: https://vincepalamara.com/2017/07/27/update-with-news-article-secret-service-agent-mike-howards-tall-tale-to-match-blaine/ Secret Service agent Mike Howard and brother Pat deliberately planted story that a janitor saw LHO pull trigger25 H 721-722, 725, 844-850:re: Secret Service agent Mike Howard and brother Pat and the allegation that they deliberately planted story that a janitor saw LHO pull trigger [see the link to the pages quoted above from volume 25] Check out the scathing comments for Mr. Howard under this video on You Tube. Howard loves them tall tales to weave for the gullilbe!

I love DVDs and Blu Rays and, as with cds, I must have a physical copy; the heck with streaming or the cloud. Having said that, I noticed a huge discount bin of DVDs the other day at Walmart with many high profile A-list movies included, so they weren't just cruddy B or C movies.

LOL...not.