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  1. . . . .Good Day Mr. Davies.... I do not know (: yet! ) who wrote the Bethesda-arrival-casket description, “metal shipping casket” on the Gawler’s Funeral Home first-call sheet. (immediately caught my eye, also, + I sure would like to learn who wrote that, to include the name with its related particulars for my comprehensive, very detailed, references- documented encyclopedia list of 8,781 persons related to the case) If I was to make a pure guess, sometime probably shortly after the embalming at Bethesda (while memories were still fresh), the “metal shipping casket” arrival-description may have been written by one of the 4 members of the JFK-embalming team (Mr.'s STROBEL, THOMAS EVAN ROBINSON, JOSEPH E. HAGEN, or JOHN VAN HOESEN).... .... or .... .... it was written after the embalming by another employee back at Gawler's. (if the latter, then, it is simply logical that the “metal shipping casket” description, still, had to be originated from when it was dictated to the employee by, only, Mr.’s STROBEL, ROBINSON, HAGEN, and/or VAN HOESEN, right?) .... and .... Whoever wrote it, I am 100% positive that some of Our researchers (such as DAVID LIFTON, DOUGLAS HORNE, etc) would also like to interview the writer! Researcher VINCE PALAMARA also recently provided us the link to an additional very interesting article with respect to some people who knew Mr. STROBEL, and what he reportedly stated about JFK's wounds.... http://m.herald-review.com/special-section/jfk/embalmer-also-connects-area-to-the-assassination/article_b4c2715c-55c6-11e3-a056-0019bb2963f4.html?mobile_touch=true Best Regards in Research,+ ++Don Donald RoberdeauUnited States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, Suspects, + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.htmlThe Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Documented 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information)Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gifDiscovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  2. Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.effinghamdailynews.com/local/x2039931337/Altamont-native-prepared-John-F-Kennedy-for-funeral (QUOTE) Altamont Native Prepared John F. Kennedy for Funeral [by] Nathan Scholes For the Daily News PHOTO: CAPTION: Photo of Edwin Stroble taken in Altamont PHOTO: CAPTION: Shown is a copy of the Gawler "First Call Sheet" (like an intake form) for the Kennedy funeral/embalming. It lists Ed Stroble as embalmer. ALTAMONT — On Nov. 22, 1963, as the nation mourned the loss of President John F. Kennedy, morticians of Joseph Gawler's Son Inc were summoned to Bethesda (MD) Naval Hospital to embalm the body and prepare it for viewing. According to one embalmer, the nature of the president's wounds required that he use "all of my knowledge and acquired skill to make him presentable." This embalmer, Edwin Bates Stroble, was a native of Altamont and one-time apprentice at Kull Funeral Home. Born May 22, 1921, to Edwin P. and Gladys G. Stroble, the younger Stroble began working for local businessman Woodrow Kull in high school before enlisting in the United States Navy. Following a stint of service that saw him fighting on Attu, he returned home. It was at this time that he began his apprenticeship under the supervision of Kull to learn the trade of embalming. In a letter to family friend Linda Frederick (nee Grobengieser) shortly after the assassination, Stroble credits Kull with teaching him "how to pose features naturally, and how to use a horse sense flair for make-up." He also referred to Kull as "one of the greatest embalmers I've ever watched." According to Stroble's sister-in-law, Ruby Stroble, he eventually decided to move to the East Coast, a place he had lived during his time in the Navy. He then began working for Joseph Gawler's Sons Inc, a prestigious Washington, D.C., funeral home, as a mortician. He did, however, make frequent trips home, visiting his family, Kull's Funeral Home and Frederick's father, Delbert Grobengieser. "He would park his sports car in the driveway and make me drool over it," recalled Frederick. Stroble was described as a "real likeable guy" by his sister-in-law and spent his time fishing and hunting. He writes that his main interest was music, in particular the works of Hoagy Carmichael. Frederick credits Stroble with getting her into Shriner's Hospital for treatment of her polio, when her family was considering sending her to Chicago. Stroble objected, stating that she would be treated like a lab rat in the northern facility. Due to the care she received at Shriner's, Frederick states that "people don't even realize that I had polio." As for the cause of his minor notoriety, it was, in part, Stroble's December 1963 home visit that alerted local residents to his connection with the Kennedy funeral. Lynn Kull, son of Stroble's mentor, recalls Stroble coming into the Kull embalming room and showing him the check he received for embalming the President. After a period of disbelief by Kull, Stroble mentioned that the President had been shot at the very top of the cranium and approximately the 7th vertebrae. He also mentioned that Kennedy's face was "not that marred." Considering the extensive work done to restore Kennedy's body, Stroble was disappointed when Jacqueline Kennedy decided that the casket would be closed for services. She and the President's brothers viewed him in the East Room of the White House, along with select staffers, before she ordered the closure. He did, however, come to believe that "as things turned out, it was a wise decision on her part." Stroble said that during this time, there was a "very high emotional response from the people of the district, and for that matter, the whole East Coast." He believed that if the casket had remained open, "it would have become mass hysteria, or worse." Stroble complimented Mrs. Kennedy for her composure, stating that "she was tremendous throughout the whole ordeal." Given the historical controversy and public interest surrounding President Kennedy's assassination, natural curiosity may lead many to wonder what Stroble knew about the President's wounds and their implications. In the aforementioned letter to Frederick, Stroble writes that he was "under orders from the White House Secret Service, and the FBI not to discuss any factors relating to points of entry of bullets, nor their effects." Stroble died in May 1976 and therefore was unable to provide testimony to the United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), which was introduced in 1975, but not officially created until September 1976. Fellow Gawler embalmer Thomas Robinson's testimony has been cited in support of a frontal entry wound, but no documented statements by Stroble suggest his agreement. Stroble did not mention to Kull or in writings the small wound near the temple that Robinson discusses in the official HSCA transcript. Upon his passing in Maryland in 1976, Stroble's possessions were reportedly not collected by his family and subsequently discarded. Therefore, any additional information that may have existed regarding President John F. Kennedy's death and funeral from Stroble's unique perspective has been lost. However, the existing records illustrate the importance of his small-town training and its impact on one of the most famous events in modern history. (END QUOTE) Best Regards in Research + ++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, Suspects, + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Documented 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  3. Good Day.... Can someone, please, provide the exact date in 1964 when the curb near JAMES TAGUE was removed by assassination investigators? Thanks in advance (I am currently not where my files, books, + wc sets are at) Best Regards in Research + ++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Documented 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  4. Good Day.... This is the audio recording of an interesting 11-22-13 interview accomplished with the ARRB's Deputy Director (and a judge), THOMAS E. SAMOLUK. Interestingly, in 1996 Mr. SAMOLUK stated to researcher VINCE PALAMARA that when Mr. SAMOLUK had been speaking directly with JFK's White House Aide and very good friend, DAVID POWERS, that POWERS, "agreed with your take on the Secret Service".... AUDIO: http://boston.cbslocal.com/?podcast_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2Fredirect.mp3%2Fnyc.podcast.play.it%2Fmedia%2Fd0%2Fd0%2Fd1%2Fd4%2Fd6%2FdP%2Fd0%2F146P0_3.MP3&podcast_name=NightSide+with+Dan+Rea&podcast_artist=Dan+Rea&station_id=&audio_link=true&config_file=config.xml&dcid=CBS.BOSTON ARTICLE: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/11/26/nightside-thomas-samoluk-talks-about-jfks-assassination/ Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  5. Good Day.... FYI.... http://onlineathens.com/local-news/2013-11-23/texas-doctor-tried-save-kennedys-life <QUOTE> Texas Doctor Tried to Save Kennedy's Life By JON MARK BEILUE MORRIS NEWS SERVICE – updated Saturday, November 23, 2013 - 11:05pm Sean Steffen / AGN Dr. Don Curtis speaks during a symposium at the Panhandle-Plains Historical Museum Thursday, November 7, 2013 about his experiences in the Emergency Room at Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas when President Kennedy was brought in. This year is the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination. Sean Steffen / AGN Media A surgery was scheduled for the afternoon, and Don Curtis thought it best to get a bite to eat in the Parkland Hospital cafeteria while he could. At about 12:30 p.m., the same ahead seemed routine, or as routine as it could be in a hospital. Curtis, who grew up in Amarillo, was 26. He was a resident in oral and maxillofacial surgery at Parkland in Dallas. But Curtis soon felt the weight of history was thrust upon him. “I saw what I thought was the president’s car, and it looked like it had just arrived at the ER entrance,” Curtis said. “I was walking down the hall, and a policeman ran up to me and said, ‘Are you a doctor?’ I said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘Hurry, come with me.’” In a matter of seconds, about 12:45 p.m. on Nov. 22, 1963, young Dr. Curtis was in Trauma Room 1 along with Dr. Charles Carrico and a nurse futilely attempting to save the life of President John F. Kennedy. Curtis didn’t have time to be overwhelmed by the enormity of the moment. He didn’t have time for anxiety. All he could do was be a doctor. Carrico was at the president’s head. He placed an endotracheal tube down the president’s throat and applied a respirator into the tube to maintain artificial respiration. Curtis then unbuttoned Kennedy’s bloody shirt and saw what he was certain was a bullet entrance wound in the pretracheal area of the throat. There was large swelling and blood on the president’s neck. Curtis then moved toward Kennedy’s ankle to perform a cutdown, where an incision is made and a vein is dissected for a catheter. “I pulled the president’s pants leg up and saw a piece of his brain and that gave me a clue his prognosis was not good,” Curtis said. By then, the trauma room was filled with every senior doctor as they watched their colleagues work on the president. Another doctor stepped in to replace Dr. Kemp Clark, a neurosurgeon who’d been working on Kennedy. He pulled up the president’s head to examine the back. Then came the words that will always stay with Curtis. “He said, ‘Stop. Stop resuscitation. This is incompatible with life.’” The room was quiet. “No one knew what to say,” Curtis said. “We just stood there looking at each other.” With all the hospital chiefs there, Curtis — a first-year resident — thought it best to now excuse himself. But Jackie Kennedy, the presidents’s wife, blocked his exit. So he remained as each chief examined the fatal head wound and left. Curtis, too, said he “got a good look at it.” The cerebellum of the brain was gone. Curtis went to tell the patient scheduled for afternoon surgery it was postponed. He made his rounds and then went home. In a meeting the following Monday, one day after assassin Lee Harvey Oswald was killed, the doctors there came to an understanding they would mention as little of what they had seen as possible. That is until President Lyndon Johnson put together the Warren Commission, a group charged with investigating the assassination. In short time, Curtis had a pre-interview with special counsel Arlen Specter. To Curtis, it seemed the future Pennsylvania senator was trying to sway, if not intimidate, him about Kennedy’s wounds. Curtis, along with several other Parkland doctors, he said, thought the throat wound was an entrance wound, not an exit one, which would mean more than one assassin. Specter kept pushing that he see it as an exit wound or a hematoma. Curtis believed later that narrative fit the official Warren report version that Oswald acted alone. Fifty years ago, there were no burgeoning conspiracy controversies. Curtis, familiar with gunshot wounds from his trauma room work at Parkland, just knew what he saw. In the official deposition with the Warren Commission on March 24, 1964, Specter asked Curtis 57 questions. Specter’s questions danced around the throat wound. Curtis tried to put that time behind him. He went on to a long and distinguished career in Amarillo. It unnerved him, he said, that of around 1,400 people called to testify before the Warren Commission, 118 died unusual and sometimes mysterious deaths. Oliver Stone’s 1991 conspiracy-centric movie, “JFK,” didn’t help. When the Warren Commission released its report in September 1964, more than 80 percent of Americans believed the veracity of its conclusion that Oswald was a lone demented gunman. Since then, conspiracies have sprouted and never gone away. According to a Gallup poll last month, 61 percent of Americans — including Curtis — believe the assassination was a conspiracy, though that’s down from 75 percent in 2003. There are those who have known Curtis for 40 years who didn’t know his place in history. Only as the 50th anniversary approached has he broken his silence, first with a civic club or two, then two weeks ago, at an event at West Texas A&M University. He could be the only living witness to the events in Trauma Room 1 at Parkland on that day a half-century ago. It’s a notion that has impacted him. “Through the years, it has been of little interest to me,” Curtis said, “but it has become worrisome to me in the last year. It was a terrible event. And it is still worrisome to me that I can’t reconcile my knowledge of what I saw with the findings of the government.” • Jon Mark Beilue is an AGN Media columnist. He can be reached at jon.beilue@amarillo.com or (806) 345-3318. His blog and video blog appear on amarillo.com. <END QUOTE> Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  6. .... Good Day.... I have JOHN ORR's report, "Analysis of Gunshots in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963," that he also sent to JANET RENO, and it is freely available + downloadable for you, here.... http://www.longislandfirearms.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=20446 Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  7. Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  8. .... Hi Pat.... I wholeheartedly agree with your "baby steps." ( that reminded me of the film, "Contact," which, imho, is a very good + multi-faceted, thoughts-provoking film! ) Pat, imho, you are definitely not "pretty much all alone" in your thoughts for the tangential JFK head-impacting bullet, and as many of Our Colleagues have also shared publicly + privately, the tangential head-impacting, inner-head-shallow-transiting bullet that was fired from behind. THE question is, "From WHERE were the 'shots' fired from behind the president that impacted him?" (and, that impacted CONNALLY), and, for which "shot" in the many times stated 1...... 2..3 "shots" timing sequence, when the last two heard "shots" were bunched distinctly closer together than the first two heard "shots." In our several always interesting, privately shared, phone conversations I am sure that I have most likely mentioned that we are definitely on many of the same pages with respect to the actual "shots" sequence and the assassins locations! (+ have privately also shared the exact same with many of our independently more open-minded Team members during the years/decades) Unless a newly-11-22-63-interested person or a researcher interested in the Realities for the cumulative details, micro-details, + and the evidence with respect to the assassination chooses to go down into what is, imho, the valuable-time-consuming, time/years/decades/lifetime-balance-wasting 'rabbit holes' of being self-locked into an 0-pine theory for which the evidence is sorely lacking that nearly-all-evidence/all-evidence was somehow/somewhere/sometime deliberately altered by someone's, the very simple fact is that the evidence is that President Kennedy WAS initially struck in the head by a bullet fired from a location behind him. (and, no bullet hit him from a "shot" fired location from the 8.4' higher than his head top GK picket fence top, that at Z-312 the president was at a near-perfect, head-profile facing-away-from the entire north GK that was at 87-degrees nearly directly to his head's right) Along with the Holly-weird-conditioned visuals of the JFK's post-Z-312 reactions, it is my opinion that two of the several, very possible reasons that some people 0-pine and choose to cling-to a theory that a GK assassin's bullet hit JFK in the head is because many people and dedicated JFK Scholars are simply, understandably, not at all or not really, completely, familiar with the exact geographical relationship of where the north GK picket fence was located, relative to JFK's head facing direction where he was exactly located on Elm Street at Z-313, and relative to the evidence (and, they are not familiar with his Elm Street location relative to the GK picket fence, relative to the evidence during Z-frames before 313). ....Another of several reasons, imho, is that some/many of Our Colleague researchers have simply never fired a weapon, nor has he/she ever personally inspected the results of a bullet. During my military career and personal time target skills practicing (I have never hunted animals) I have acquired several decades of experience firing and seeing the results of many caliber sizes of military-specifications-grade-fired bullets along with commercial hunting-grade target-fired bullets that were FMJ's (full metal jacket), HP's (hollow-point), + SP's (soft-point). I have, will always, + can very confidently share with anyone + everyone that has never fired a weapon that the JFK medical evidence does not support a bullet that impacted JFK's head at 313 that came in from an 87-degrees angle away from his head's right side....That is NOT to say that a so-called "shot" (albeit, a "shot" fired in an audible muzzle blast, and/or, a different, additional weapon's "shot" in a mechanically-suppressed-fired "silenced" bullet bow N-wave shock wave, with either set-up choosing to employ a hearable super-sonic speed bullet, or, an un-hearable sub-sonic speed bullet) that completely missed JFK, missed the limo, and missed hitting any witness could not have been fired, or, was not fired from a point 87-degrees to JFK's nearly direct right.....and a missed, super-sonic, GK triggered "shot" bullet is precisely what the HSCA concluded was fired at Z-290 to 294, and, was heard, stated, testified-to, and maintained among several, actual DP witnesses (including very close witness JEAN HILL -- as deliberately buried by politico-washDC-flip-flopper, warrenatti-lawyer SPECTER, deep near the very end of her wc-testimony), and by additional, actual weapons-experienced, DP witnesses. .... Of course, then there is also (to provide a couple of among the many key considerations) the GK-encountered, identification-flashing-"agent," along with the assassination "shots" sequencing = that the warrenatti even admitted in its report-canard that a "substantial majority" of the actual witnesses remembered hearing (or *could* hear) of.... 1 ...... 2..3 not 1...2 .....3 Best Regards in Research +++Don P.S.... An aside.... Once in a while, I will still shake my head while thinking (hoping!!) that with everything else happening the exact same during the attack except for the following, IF President KENNEDY had just moved a mere 2" to 4" more to his left at the right micro-instant, and/or he was pulled/pro-actively knocked more to his left, and/or the limo was quickly swerved hard and would have jostled him more to his left (and jostled him DOWN), he most likely would not have been hit tangentially in his head at 313. (and, in the Real World, IF a frog had wings, it might fly) Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif(updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gifVisual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  9. .... Good Day Douglas.... This will be the 3rd attempt (that I am aware of) that MARY has tried to auction her Polaroid photo.... The first attempt was on eBay in a 10-day auction that started April 16, 2007 (via the now-defunct “LegendSales.com”), when she had an asking price of $500,000.... The photo was first publicly shown to everyone on national TV on 11-22-63 at 3:19 PM Dallas time, precisely 2 hours and 49 minutes after the assassination. Shortly after that, her near-south-Elm-Street curb, from-the-grass-captured, un-altered photo was also photographed close-up by United Press International, and that U.P.I. photo-negative was utilized to make a print that was transmitted to newspapers and then also widely publicized worldwide within hours. Here is the actual MOORMAN Polaroid # 5 photo being shown to everyone on national TV by NBC on 11-22-63 at 3:19 PM Dallas time.... Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  10. Hi Larry.... Had a definite memory of reading the same My Friend, took on several books-searching, + eventually found + re-read the following with respect to self-claimed accomplice, ROBERT WILFRED EASTERLING.... (from MICHAEL BENSON, "Who's Who in the JFK Assassination: An A to Z Encyclopedia," 1993, pg. 121-122) <QUOTE> .... In February 1963, Easterling was working as a diesel engine mechanic near New Orleans and frequently drank at the Habana Bar at 117 Decatur Street in New Orleans (see PENA, OREST). It was here that Easterling met a CIA/Castro double agent whom Hurt calls Manuel (not his real name). Easterling described Manuel as being of medium height, with a stocky build, heavy body hair, a receding hairline, and a visible birthmark on the side of his neck. Manuel enlisted Easterling in a scheme to kill JFK. Manuel explained that their group wanted JFK dead because they were betrayed at the Bay of Pigs invasion. Easterling says that other members of the conspiratorial group included David Ferrie and Clay Shaw, whom he also saw in the same bar, and a Cuban named Joe who had a deformed hand and who sometimes tended bar. Orest Pefia, owner of the bar, admits that Ferrie and Shaw had both been known to drink there, but denies ever employing a bartender with a deformed hand. Manuel, who drove a gray Volkswagen, explained that JFK was going to be shot by a 7mm Czech weapon, the design of which he had supervised personally. This weapon fired bullets that disintegrated on impact and left no ballistic evidence. The cover story was going to involve a patsy (Oswald) and fake ballistic evidence. The cover assassination weapon was to be a Mannlicher­ Carcano. To create the phony ballistic evidence, Manuel went to a field (behind the trailer park where Easterling lived with his wife) and fired the weapon into a barrel of water. He then collected the shell casings and the fired bullets - which would be planted at the appropriate time to incrimi­nate Oswald. Manuel then lined up three coconuts and fired his Czech weapon into each of them, to show off. This story is partially corroborated by Easterling's wife (now remarried and requesting anonymity), who remembers that, before the shooting started, Easterling came into their trailer to borrow dishcloths. When Hurt told Easterling of this, Easterling frowned and then recalled that he and Manuel had tried for a time to suspend the dishcloths in the barrel so that the bullets could be retrieved without completely emptying the barrel. Mrs. Easterling also recalled that, later that day, Easterling had brought her three coconuts with bullet holes in them. She made coconut pie. .... <END QUOTE> Mr. BENSON sourced HENRY HURT's book, "Reasonable Doubt," that details EASTERLING's claims, + I do have memories that Mr. HURT wrote about it, also. Best Regards in Research+++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif(updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gifVisual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  11. Yea, I would like to see a schematic drawing of Dealey Plaza that includes the park bench the black couple was sitting on. BK Good Day Bill and Ken.... The following links are each provided for the scaled Dealey Plaza diagrams that also include the 11-22-63 photogrammatically-determined precise location of the sitting park bench that was located just south of the North Pergola's west shelter, close to the north-south leg of the retaining wall (that same sitting bench is visible and partially-visible in several 11-22-63 photos + film frames).... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information) .... and here .... http://imageshack.us/a/img397/4074/hscaretaingk313verticalbc7.gif One of many key details provided on that "hscaretaingk313verticalbc7.gif" retaining wall/GK fence area diagram are the lines-of-sight (hereafter, also abbreviated, "L-o-s") visible in the WILMA BOND photos #5 and #7 for the witness (or witnesses) located very close to that sitting bench mere seconds after the attack shots ended. .... Mrs. BOND told TRASK that she snapped her photos every 10 to 20 seconds. BOND also stated that her first post-shots photo (BOND #4) was snapped 20 seconds after the shots ended. This indicates that BOND #5 was captured 30 to 40 seconds after the shots, and, BOND #7 was captured 50 to 80 seconds after the shots ended. .... In BOND #5 we can see the head of someone on their BOND L-o-s (lime green colored) that passes very close to, and north ("behind"), the sitting bench (and that same L-o-s also extends to the nearby sidewalk that leads to the North Pergola's west shelter). .... In BOND #7 that same person (or a different person) has definitely risen their body upwards noticeably more, and their second lime green colored L-o-s now also intersects directly across the sitting bench (and this L-o-s, again, extended onto the nearby sidewalk). .... When also examining for this person (or, IMHO, less-likely persons) by employing inverted shades and black & white photo-enhancement to these same BOND #5 then BOND #7 photos (and, examining the other BOND photos snapped before and after BOND #5 along with other photographers photos), the person seen on these 2 L-o-s's very close to the sitting bench is even easier to see IMHO, and, that person is (at those BOND #5 + 7 photos instants) visibly alone in each photo = with (according to GORDON ARNOLD after he claimed many years later) neither of the, supposed, "badge man" assassin, nor his accomplice that each wore a DPD patrolman's uniform ever seen anywhere while they stood upright above the only 3.3' tall retaining wall during the multi-faceted consumed-time of ARNOLD's, supposed, encounters with them. .... Here is an animation that toggles between BOND #5 and BOND #7 for which each photo in the critical sitting bench area is pegged stationary to each other at the retaining wall horizontal top, the 6" vertical step-rise in the retaining wall, and pegged to the large vertical tree trunk located northwest of the retaining wall and that sitting bench.... http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5179/dct.gif .... and the inverted-shades BOND #5 .... http://imageshack.us/a/img209/1898/x2y.gif .... and the inverted-shades BOND #7 .... http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3479/9ao.gif .... We can see that in the 20 to 40-seconds between BOND #5 to #7 this person has risen distinctly upwards (in BOND #7, they were then visible from their mid-chest, up to their head top), and, they have already moved a noticeable distance (possibly/probably southward, closer to Elm Street) = possibly looking towards Elm Street, and possibly/probably they had risen upwards to obtain a more comprehensive view to be able to see more over the 3.3' tall retaining wall and watch the aftermath actions of the gunshots-experienced, real DPD policemen and the many fellow witnesses closeby within their view that were located lower than them and that swarmed towards them, and swarmed towards the grassy knoll, swarmed towards the picket fence, and, swarmed towards + into the vehicles parking lot area directly "behind" (north of) the GK picket fence. Another of many interesting consideration's is that right around the same instant of JFK's head first exploding in the NIX film, there is a probably-human-originated movement visible in this same in-tree-shaded, upper retaining wall area on a L-o-s (green colored) that also extends to that very same pergola sidewalk. That human-originated movement seems to have moved quickly north to north-northeastward, away from Elm Street, and the visible quick movement definitely looks to me to quickly move from an initial higher location towards a lower location: possibly someone quickly diving northeastward, away from Elm Street, and/or, moving away from a loud, audible muzzle blast and/or away from the supersonic "whip-crack" caused by a bullet's bow shock N-wave trajectory that was triggered from a source to their right as they faced Elm Street; fired from where the grassy knoll picket fence was located; possibly triggered by the same "hat man assassin" captured in the MOORMAN #5 polaroid seen photo-located 14' west of the corner of the grassy knoll picket fence = where the HSCA also test-fired shots and scientifically determined to more than a 95% probability that an assassin fired a circa Z-290 to 294 shot that missed everyone).... The green L-o-s of that probable witness seen in NIX diving northeastward at right around the JFK head shot, intersects with the BOND #5 person lime green L-o-s at a point on the westernmost side of that same North Pergola sidewalk, approximately 10' "behind" (northwest of) and close to the same sitting bench. With regard to the young black couple that MARILYN SITZMAN stated to Dr. JOSIAH THOMPSON she watched sitting on/near the retaining wall bench while sharing their lunch shortly before the attack started, within this post-thread BILL KELLY has indicated, and he has indicated totally accurately with respect to the claims of Ms. EVELYN KING about her and her brother ARTHUR that are known and have been publicly reported by researchers to date.... I am in contact with someone who (because I have 38-years experience interviewing 43 actually-there Dealey Plaza witnesses) may be able to provide me with Ms. KING's contact information (ARTHUR has passed-on). If Ms. KING is willing, I have already composed + prepared a very thought-through, very detailed list of exacting questions for Ms. KING.... As when speaking with all witness to events before, during, and/or after the attack, I will publicly report on her answers that she provides for us if she gives me permission to do so while she is alive. Additionally, since it has been brought up within this posts-thread, here is provided the link for my scaled diagram of the TSBD 2nd floor that includes key details of the BAKER-OSWALD-then-TRULY encounter that happened a tests-recreated 75-90 seconds after the attack after DPD patrolman MARRION LEWIS BAKER remembered hearing (or, that he could hear) his first "shot" audible muzzle blast or his first "shot" mechanically suppressed-fired "silenced" supersonic bullet bow shock N-wave that he could hear that he first warrenatti-testified was triggered from the TSBD, or he could hear it was fired from the Dal-tex Building.... http://imageshack.us/a/img525/8351/daltexduplicatestsbd100.gif .... and .... http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8651/dtroofcopiestsbd.gif .... and .... http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6969/bronson5recreationdalte.gif .... and .... http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2640/daltexcopiesanglessl.jpg .... and .... http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2664/19631123daltexmackwhite.jpg .... and .... "Mis-direction ~ ~ What the eyes see, and the ears hear, the mind believes." (JOHN TRAVOLTA, “Swordfish,” 2001) .... One key detail of several that I will also be adding is with respect to this 2nd floor BAKER-OSWALD-then-TRULY encounter diagram I entitled, "The TRULY Trap" is that ROY TRULY (who led and moved up the stairs a distance, and, an amount of time ahead of BAKER) indicated that when he first reached + moved from the top of the second floor stairs landing, around to the stairwell stairs entrance that led to the third floor, he was not attracted to see anyone nor anything moving, and, the door into the vestibule space located outside the 2nd floor lunchroom was already fully-closed .... .... This is very important because that same outer vestibule door was primarily controlled by a hydraulic mechanism that caused the door to close on its own, very slowly = and therefore, it took additional time after the door had already also been opened (opened, supposedly, by OSWALD, per the warrenatti-report-canard) for the door to then, actually already become the fully-closed that TRULY indicated.... Best Regards in Research+++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif(updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gifVisual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  12. Good Day.... Updated the research discovery announcement + its referenced links with respect for the ZAPRUDER film-documented ROSEMARY WILLIS ultrafast headsnap directly towards the grassy knoll. Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  13. Hi Bill.... Thank You Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  14. Good Day.... FYI, after the film's recent showing at the Toronto Film Festival.... http://moviecitynews.com/2013/09/the-torontonian-reviews-parkland/ (QUOTE) By Jake Howell jake.howell@utoronto.ca The Torontonian Reviews Parkland While much has changed since November 22, 1963, what hasn’t is the world’s fascination with the assassination that happened that day. Fifty years after the fact, we are given the underwhelming Parkland, Peter Landesman’s dramatization of side narratives that emerged after President John F. Kennedy was fatally shot. These mini-stories—perhaps better suited for a television series—include the hospital unit working at Parkland Memorial Hospital (to treat the bodies of both JFK and Lee Harvey Oswald), the life-changing footage captured by Abraham Zapruder, and the family Oswald left behind. Written for the screen by Landesman (also making his directorial debut), the film features a curious cast of Zac Efron (Jim Carrico, a young doctor at Parkland Memorial), Paul Giamatti (Abraham Zapruder), James Badge Dale (Robert Oswald) and Jacki Weaver (Marguerite Oswald). None of these roles own the show, however, as they all support their individual arc. There are a large number of players—far too many to list—but only Giamatti’s Zapruder and Badge Dale’s Robert Oswald are worth paying attention to. Even then, their stories would likely be far more interesting in a written format, like Vincent Bugliosi’s “Four Days in November,” the book from which the film is adapted. The acting is acceptable, but the performance average suffers from a surprisingly ineffective Jackie Kennedy (Kat Steffens) and Efron’s dubious turn as a surgeon. As is usually the case with lesser historical pictures, the most compelling sequences come not from the dramatization but from newscasts and archival footage that punctate the background of the chaos. While it’s hard to compete with a defeated Walter Cronkite announcing the death of the President on national television, Parkland‘s emotional heft comes almost entirely from images like that, and especially the Zapruder film, and Landesman adds little to their impact. Coasting from beat to beat (when will Oswald get shot? Oh, there it is), the film piggybacks off the assassination’s universal intrigue, hoping to squeeze tension from underwritten characters. The film’s period setting also feels like an afterthought. The majority of the action is captured in cramped rooms and with a variety of angles (with the cuts and shaky close-ups you would expect from poor choreography), and there are only a handful of master shots throughout. Moments of clarity are a relief from the unintentional claustrophobia of Parkland, but there isn’t enough in the details for Landesman to really sell the early 1960s as anything other than when the tragedy happened. Set design? Forget it. For that reason alone, the film doesn’t work. But when you add a lagging script with contemporary gimmicks that add artificial drama, well… when the surgeons attempt CPR on President Kennedy, relentlessly trying to revive a man who won’t come back, you get the sense the film is attempting something similar. 1 Comment » (END QUOTE) Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  15. Tony Summers is one of the few researcher-writers who has the ability to change his mind and view with new information, and since the publication of "Conspiracy," we have learned a lot more from the recently released files and new witnesses. Certainly "definitive" is determined by when it is published, with the most up to date information, and changes constantly with new information. When it was first published I thought "Conspiracy" was terrific because it was one of the first books to dedicate serious journalistic principles and techniques to the case - and I hadn't seen this TV documentary in which Tony interview some of the most important witnesses, and asks the right questions. Getting these people to go on camera must have took some convincing - and Tony has a charming ability to get witnesses to trust him. The JFK Conspiracy – BBC 1978 www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxU14SL5U8A Tony Summers Producer When Tony was in Florida interviewing John Martino's widow and son for his Vanity Fair article, I was in Atlantic City talking to Martino's sister and brother, and I assisted him in some of the research for Not In Your Lifetime, for which he sites in the footnotes - concerning Jim Braden and Carl Mather. Since then we located the Man on the Motorcycle in Mexico City who reportedly gave Oswald a ride to the Cuban Embassy, and Tony interviewed him, so there should be an update on that, as well as other areas where we have learned more from the files. Having been a runner up for the Pulitizer Prize Tony and Robbyn should get more respect than those Conspiracy Theorists who write books trying to blame the assassination on someone or some agency or government. As Pat Speer has noted, most of the movie and documentary film money is being poured into anti-or-counter conspiracy productions, and eventually someone will come along with the money to make a real documentary using Summers work as a firm basis, but probably not in our lifetime. Bill Kelly .... Hi Bill.... Thank You.... I tried to watch the documentary at the link that you provided for us, but, that link's video has been removed. Is the following excellent 1978 BBC documentary, "The Killing of President Kennedy" the same 1h 19m documentary that you referenced for us?.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rxUl4SL5U8A Best Regards in Research+++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Providing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (2012 updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic
  16. ANTHONY SUMMERS, Update Good Day.... The recent, widely published article concerning the JFK assassination-related files still being withheld, also mentioned ANTHONY SUMMERS, and that he will soon be publishing what the article's author wrote is a "sequel" to his very outstanding 1998 book, "Not In Your Lifetime." When I asked him, TONY just now confirmed to me that (instead of a new book, followup "sequel").... " The book published this fall will indeed be an updated version of NIYL. Massively updated, with significant new, unpublished information in the final chapter." Cheers ! NIYL searchable book excerpts via "Amazon.com" are freely available for you, here.... http://www.amazon.com/Not-Your-Lifetime-Anthony-Summers/dp/1569247390/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1376855512&sr=1-4 Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Providing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (2012 updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic
  17. Good Day.... Our longtime dedicated researcher, Mrs. MARTHA MOYER, has reminded me (Thank You + Hat Tip, MARTHA) that in his 1964 warrenatti-transcribed-testimony Dr. CARRICO gave his home address where he may have actually buried a JFK skull piece as, 2605 Ridgwood in the Dallas suburb of Irving, TX (note: his street name may also have been spelled, "Ridgewood") Who here lives in/near Dallas?!! Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Providing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.images...updated1111.gif (2012 updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  18. .... Good Day.... FWIW (and it is worth alot, imho + experiences), a key part of the formula for successes in nearly everything non-JFK-assassination-related that I have nearly always decided to choose, reinforce, + almost always, patiently, strive to keep in the "brain box" is the very simple + straightforward.... T ogether E veryoneA chieves M ore Best Regards in Research+++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Providing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.images...updated1111.gif (2012 updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  19. Good Day.... According to the following 6-12-13 DMN video interview with Parkland doctor DANIEL FOSTER (thank you + hat tip to LARRY SCHNAPF for the alert).... http://www.dallasnews.com/video/?freewheel=90850&sitesection=dallasnews_nws_non_non&VID=24877700 .... CHARLES JAMES "Jim" CARRICO (a Parkland resident doctor on 11-22-63, and, a friend of FOSTER who was also one of JFK's trauma room #1 attending doctors), later privately shared with FOSTER that after CARRICO went home on 11-22-63, CARRICO discovered a piece of JFK's skull inside one of the pockets of his blood-stained lab coat (CARRICO was, in fact, reported by several persons also in TR #1 as being located near JFK's head). CARRICO then decided on his own (apparently, never later notifying the authorities nor investigators about this JFK skull piece of evidence) to bury the JFK skull fragment with the lab coat in the backyard of his home (an action which CARRICO later admitted that he wished he had not chosen to do). Can anyone with a 1963 Dallas phone book provide CARRICO's address on 11-22-63? Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Providing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.images...updated1111.gif (2012 updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  20. .... Good Day Bernice.... It has always been interesting, research-wise, to realize that NIX was an almost perfect 180-degrees opposite ZAPRUDER when the President's head first exploded. (had NIX been as close or closer than ZAPRUDER to JFK and on the same line-of-sight, the clarity of the NIX film would have probably been much higher while we had the nearly full, 360-degrees view of President KENNEDY when his head first exploded) I am astounded that looking at the above, stabilized NIX gif-animation head shot segment that RICK NEEDHAM provided, that no experienced researcher, immediately, observed what is obvious. With regard to the first-appearing, orange-color-highlight-circled, so-called, "black square" (that first flashes above the surface of the trunk at a level with Mrs. KENNEDY's right elbow), apparently, no one else, on any forum, has observed that large, totally "black square" appears B-E-F-O-R-E the President's head had even, first, exploded. That "black square" appearing before the head explodes, we can be sure, was impossible. (if anyone "thinks" that first, pre-explosion "black square" to have been a piece of JFK's head) In reality, the impacting bullet moved the upper-half of President's head forward about 1" to 2" (and as the skull fractured, the outline of the head also changed) and the explosion was caused by the bullet's expanding, briefly-contained, pressurized shock wave .... then, a micro-second after the explosion, the explosive forces radiating in all directions away from the bullet's trajectory caused the skull fragments and brain matter to be detached from the higher- pressurized inner-skull/head container, propelling them to flying away from the head. IMHO, the initial, pre-head-explosion "black square" is, most likely, a large film artifact; possibly a result caused during or after the film's processing. Additionally, the follow-up orange-highlight-circled, smaller, darker somethings that are seen on the limo trunk appear to me to be dark reflections of something(s) that is/are stationary, that were located above the limo on the grassy knoll. (NIX's camera lens was approximately 12' to 13' higher than the limo trunks horizontal surface) Using an accurate DP map, my one-time, quick, line-of-sight measurement starting from NIX's precise attack-filming location, directed at the Z-313 precise location of when President Kennedy's head first exploded, indicates that the follow-up darker-something's are most likely, simply, reflections on the limo trunk of then-darker colored components of the North Pergola (probably darker because the reflected darker components were in the darker shade caused by the sun). There are also some lighter, sunlit components of the North Pergola seen reflected on the trunk as the limo moves forward. (Thank You and Hat Tip to Chris Davidson) Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Providing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.images...updated1111.gif (2012 updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  21. Good Day.... FYI.... http://keranews.org/post/parkland-doctor-breaks-50-year-silence-about-day-jfk-was-shot **** NOTE **** Even though doctor JOHN HENRY "Red" DUKE claims in this 2013 article that this is the first time he has spoken publicly, in fact, I remembered (and documented it on my 16,700 pages timeline) that on 11-22-03 doctor DUKE, actually, spoke publicly in a segment played on "National Public Radio," that is still available for you in transcript and audio forms, here.... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1516423 **** NOTE **** In the same 11-22-03 "NPR" segment doctor ROBERT G. GROSSMAN was also interviewed, claiming that he was in Parkland Hospital trauma room #1, and, he claimed that he saw President KENNEDY's head wounds up close.... Unfortunately for GROSSMAN, their are key doubts that he was actually in trauma room #1.... http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/grossman.htm <QUOTE> Parkland Doctor Breaks 50-Year Silence About The Day JFK Was Shot By BJ AUSTIN Dr. Red Duke gets a handshake and thank you after telling the story of his work as a Parkland Hospital doctor November 22, 1963. For the first time, a doctor at Parkland Hospital in 1963 is speaking publically about his role after bullets struck President John F. Kennedy's motorcade in downtown Dallas. This year is the 50th anniversary of the President's assassination. LISTEN: http://cpa.ds.npr.org/kera/audio/2013/02/10279.mp3 Dr. Red Duke, renowned trauma surgeon from Houston was on the thoracic surgery team at Parkland Hospital in 1963. His job that day was to help save the life of wounded Texas Governor John Connally, also shot as he rode in the motorcade. After 50 years, he told his story for the first time: to hundreds of emergency medicine doctors and technicians gathered at the Dallas Sheraton for an annual conference. “We didn’t talk much about it, Duke told his audience. "Well, I never have. This is the first time I’ve ever said anything about it.” Dr. Duke recalled going downstairs to the Emergency Room, seeing crowds of people, and Jacqueline Kennedy, sitting on a chair outside Trauma Room 1 – her pink suit stained with blood. He entered, saw the President’s devastating head wound, and was quickly shifted to Trauma Room 2 to take care of the Governor. “He had this big chest wound. His lung was flopping in and out," Duke recalled. "So I stopped it up and put a chest tube in him – just like you do any other gunshot wound.” But it was the Governor of Texas, and it was a day like no other. Dr. Duke says after he stabilized Connally, they rushed him into surgery. And, for the first time ever, they had a radio in the operating room. “We heard all the things. The President’s been pronounced dead. And all the other events that followed. We heard about the officer being shot over in Oak Cliff,” Duke said. After chest surgery, more doctors arrived to repair bullet damage to Connally’s right wrist and retrieve a fragment of bullet lodged in his thigh, near the femoral artery. Two days later, Dr. Duke was back in a trauma room working to save the life of accused assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, who was shot by Jack Ruby. Dr. Duke says after the events of that November, he got out of town. He went deer hunting in Pampa Texas – a nice place to hide, he said. He says he worked that day as trained and on instinct, trying to save his patient. Any thoughts of a place in history had to wait. TAGS: JFK Kennedy Assasination Red Duke Governor John Connally <END QUOTE> Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (new info, 2012 updated map) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the "Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  22. Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/judicial-watch-files-foia-lawsuit-against-national-archives-challenging-withholding-1761009.htm <QUOTE> SOURCE: Judicial Watch February 25, 2013 13:51 ET Judicial Watch Files FOIA Lawsuit Against National Archives Challenging the Withholding of RFK Department of Justice Records Kennedy Family Continues to Keep Secret Government Records in Violation of the Freedom of Information Act WASHINGTON, DC--(Marketwire - Feb 25, 2013) - On February 12, 2013, Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit on behalf of author/historian Max Holland against the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). The suit challenges the withholding of Robert F. Kennedy's records while he served as Attorney General, including "assassination records" relevant to the November 22, 1963 murder of his brother, former President John F. Kennedy (Holland v. National Archives and Records Administration (No. 13-00185)). These records are currently under control of the Kennedy family under the auspices of the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum in Dorchester, Massachusetts. Judicial Watch filed a series of Freedom of Information Act requests in fall 2012 with NARA after press outlets reported that the JFK Library was in possession of more than 60 boxes of records from Robert F. Kennedy's tenure as the U.S. Attorney General. Contained in these boxes are diaries, notes, phone logs, messages, trip files, memoranda, reports, and other records concerning the Cuban missile crisis, the war in Vietnam, the civil rights movement, and law enforcement activities of both the FBI and Justice Department. Although it has been reported that numerous government archivists and historians believe these records -- an undetermined number of which are government records -- should be made publicly available, none of the records are available for review and they remain under control of the Kennedy family. In response to Judicial Watch's September 26, 2012, FOIA request, NARA produced a list describing a group of records that were referenced by the press reports, including records involving the JFK assassination. Judicial Watch subsequently filed a FOIA request with NARA on December 5, 2012, on behalf of author/historian Max Holland seeking access to the following records: Copies of the seven records identified in the enclosed "Documents from the Robert F. Kennedy Papers: Attorney General's Confidential File which have been identified by the JFK Assassination Records Review Board as 'assassination records.'" NARA was required by law to respond to Judicial Watch's FOIA request by January 9, 2013. However, as of the date of Judicial Watch's complaint, NARA has failed to provide any records responsive to the request or indicate when any responsive records will be produced. NARA has also failed to demonstrate that responsive records are exempt from production, prompting Judicial Watch's lawsuit. November 22, 2013, will mark the 50th anniversary of the assassination of President Kennedy. The circumstances surrounding his assassination have been a source of controversy and public fascination for decades. To complete the public record on the Kennedy assassination, Congress established the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB), an independent agency, to "gather and open" all "assassination records" concerned with Kennedy's death, as mandated under the President John F. Kennedy Records Collection Act of 1992, 44 U.S.C.§ 2107 (Supp. V 1994). According to Judicial Watch's FOIA lawsuit, seven records deemed to be "assassination records" by the ARRB, which issued its final report in 1998, remain secret to this day. They include some of the president's personal records; documents describing Central Intelligence Activities in Cuba; a Cuban Information Service message dated 1/26/63 entitled, "THE PLANES THAT WERE NOT THERE;" a State Department incoming cable from Mexico; and a document entitled, "Information on Lincoln Bubble Top Automobile sinse [sic] returning from Dallas." (A Lincoln Continental with a removable bubble top was the presidential limousine used by President Kennedy). Judicial Watch and its client, author/historian Max Holland, have requested all of these records be disclosed pursuant to FOIA law. "Over a six-year period in the 1990s, the U.S. government spent millions of tax dollars and untold man-hours in an effort to gather in one place all assassination-related documents," Holland said. "It was and remains outrageous that relevant government documents in the papers of the attorney general at the time are somehow out of reach." "The JFK records are clearly government records and they should be disclosed in accordance with FOIA law," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "This lawsuit is about much more than the Kennedy assassination. It goes to the heart of how much control a presidential family may assert over public records. These records do not belong to the Kennedy family -- the records belong to the American people." Holland, a 1972 graduate of Antioch College, is author and editor of Washington Decoded, an online publication. He is writing a history of the Warren Commission for Alfred A. Knopf publishers, a manuscript which received the J. Anthony Lukas Work in Progress award in 2001. He is a contributing editor to The Nation and the Wilson Quarterly, and sits on the editorial advisory board of the International Journal of Intelligence and CounterIntelligence. Holland is also the author, editor, or co-author of six books, most recently Leak: Why Mark Felt Became Deep Throat (University Press of Kansas, March 2012) and Blind over Cuba: The Photo Gap and the Missile Crisis (Texas A&M University Press, September 2012). Visit www.judicialwatch.org <END QUOTE> Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (new info, 2012 updated map) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the "Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out....http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  23. Good Day.... FYI.... http://blogs.dallaso...rist_robert.php <QUOTE> JFK Conspiracy Theorist Robert Groden goes 81-0 with Latest Win Against City Censors By Jim Schutze Mon., Feb. 25 2013 at 10:37 AM Categories: Get Off My Lawn Wanted to go ahead and let you know, since apparently nobody else is going to do the story, that Robert Groden, the Kennedy assassination author, has won yet another legal victory in his fight against the city's years-long efforts to muzzle him. And, sorry, certain commenters here, but that's what it is. This isn't about tidying up a park. It's a campaign to shut down free speech on the still sensitive issue of whether John F. Kennedy's murder in Dallas 50 years ago was the work of multiple conspirators. Don't believe me? Still think it's Groden who's the out-of-line wack- job? Groden's virtually unbroken record of judicial exoneration in 81 separate arrests or tickets by the city is now crowned by a recent decision of County Criminal Court of Appeals Judge Kristin Wade. Wade said the same thing a parade of judges have said before: It's the city that's outside the law in this. Wade was ruling on the most recent arrest, which took place June 13, 2010, in which the city charged Groden with ... he was charged with the offense of ... but that's part of the problem, isn't it? The city arrested him in Dealey Plaza where he lectures and sells self- published magazines. They threw him in jail. But then they couldn't quite say what he had done wrong. Wade takes note of the city's vacillation. In her opinion upholding a trial judge's decision to quash the case against Groden, Wade points out that the city changed its mind twice about what Groden had done wrong after they arrested him and put him in jail. And they still couldn't come up with a crime. Know why? There was no crime. There was no city law banning Groden from giving lectures in Dealey Plaza and selling magazines, books and videos that explain his theories. Since then, in a classic case of tardy barn-door closing, the city has enacted an ordinance it thinks would cover Groden's case. Groden's lawyers think the new ordinance, yet to be tested, reeks of violation of free speech. More on this in my column in the newspaper next week. The point is this: Before the 2010 arrest the city of Dallas had 80 instances in which it had been warned by judges that it was harassing Groden in violation of his rights and the law. And yet they did it again. This last time they added some rough treatment during the arrest and a nice long visit to the jailhouse, a clear expression of that hoary adage of official oppression, "You can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride." Groden has a federal civil rights lawsuit in the works against the city. That suit has been in legal limbo for two years waiting for this appeals court shoe to fall. I'm not sure how that works. I will explain it in the paper next week. But he tells me this new verdict will open the door for the civil rights case finally to proceed. Groden is a New York Times list best-selling author and in 1978 was the forensic photographic consultant to the Select Committee on Assassinations of the U.S. House of Representatives. The select committee was formed after Groden obtained a copy of the Zapruder film, which had been owned and suppressed by LIFE magazine. When Groden got the film aired on television, a shocked national audience saw President Kennedy's head clearly slammed in the opposite direction it would have been pushed by a bullet from the sniper's perch on the sixth floor of the School Book Depository. The final report of the committee stated it had found evidence establishing "a high probability that two gunmen fired at President John F. Kennedy." It is this version of things that Groden preaches in Dealey Plaza, often to large crowds of tourists who come from far and wide specifically to explore the facts around the assassination. The efforts by the city to silence him often have been aided and abetted by the Sixth Floor Museum, which has become the official enforcement arm of the no-conspiracy theory in Dallas. Nothing like a "museum" that gets people arrested for disagreeing with it, eh? I do a weekly radio show on KNON at 10 a.m. on Saturdays (yes, I'm plugging along here), and for the past couple of Saturdays we have been talking about Groden, two weeks ago with him as my on-air guest. Last Saturday I confessed my own personal sin here: I have just never been sufficiently motivated to form a personal theory about the JFK killing in Dallas 50 years ago. I think I have always been daunted by the amount of reading I would have to do. But as we roll up on the 50th anniversary observations next November, with the city already planning hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of special security to shut people like Groden out of Dealey Plaza on the big day, I do have to wonder. Is there still somebody around who's got something big to hide on this? Because I can't come up with another explanation. Otherwise, Groden and all the other Warren Commission skeptics would be the best tourist attraction Dallas ever had. Dealey Plaza continues to be our most popular tourist attraction. And Dallas keeps living up to everyone's stereotype by standing down there like some big old 1950s copper slapping his billy club against his leg saying, "Let's move it along now, folks, nothin' to see here, time you been gettin' on home now." Why? Does the city actually want to look guilty? Does it not get that doing stuff like tossing Groden in the slammer over free speech makes the city look guilty? Amazing, really. So very strange. More on this at 10 a.m. on KNON 89.3 next Saturday (plug-plug-plug) and in the paper next week. If nothing else, it's just kind of a weird town, is it not? Groden Verdict.... http://www.scribd.co.../Groden-Verdict DOWNLOAD the judgment.... http://www.google.co...WADJs-5N-j16aWw <END QUOTE> Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.images...updated1111.gif (new info, 2012 updated map) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the "Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out....http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  24. Good Day.... With all due respect to Our researcher Doug Weldon (may his soul always R.I.P.), there was no bullet hole in the presidential limousine's front windshield. The following scaled diagram (thank you + hat tip to Jerry Organ) of the limo details for you my determined facing directions of President Kennedy and Governor Connally in the Zapruder film frame #206 instant. (Connally's posture and facing direction does not change while he is behind the "Stemmons" sign for only the 1-second) ....If you have developed a different head location and/or head facing direction for either man for Z-206 or any Zapruder frame, and/or or a different windshield defect location, as related to when your theory has JFK's neck-front wound being caused, please also provide your diagram for everyone. As simply and clearly seen when utilizing an accurate diagram of the limousine, and, accurately locating the windshield's inside-surface-only-damage (the location for that damage is documented in the Ike Altgens photo #6, some Parkland Hospital photos, and also clearly located in the FBI's 11-23-63 early-morning White House garage photos), along with correctly sizing and placing their heads locations and their facing directions for President Kennedy and Connally at Z-206, any type of a bullet theoretically (or, personal-antiquated-theory "wishfully") fired from JFK's front-left that, first, passed-through the windshield, then (and while still hot), emerged after the windshield in 'magically'-un-mutilated condition to, then, cause what Dr. Perry detailed to Dr. Humes as a very small, "3 to 5mm" (recorded by Humes), circular wound.... ---->>>> that pet-theory of a theoretically un-mutilated bullet "thought" of by a few researchers, would have had to, first, absolutely, been mandated to hit Connally in either his head or neck, before hitting JFK. ---->>>> and Connally, of course, was never struck in his head or neck with a bullet.... Additionally, when I interviewed Bill and Gayle Newman (the 2 closest, standing, adult witnesses to when JFK's head first exploded), both detailed for me that they clearly saw that before Connally had ever reached his closest point to them (approximately Z-296), enough time had already occurred after Connally's wounding that blood had already, noticeably, pooled onto his shirt's chest front, and, they could clearly see his already-pooled blood. Additionally, fairly recent captured photos of the saved, still-crated limo windshield clearly show us that the cracks that radiated away from the inside-surface-only damage in the windshield, all, match-up with photos captured within about 12 hours of the Dealey Plaza volleys of shots. As Pamela and others have also very logically stated, numerous, inevitable, vibrations that went into the windshield caused from jostling during the moving-driving-flying of the limo and/or the windshield (most likely incurring jostling-around vibrations that were between slight to very heavy in force), temperature swings, barometric pressure swings, and, at some time(s) someone(s) may have also lowered the windshield's storage crate much to hard onto a floor and/or actually dropped the windshield's crate, and, etc.... These possibilities/probabilities have all individually and/or combined during 50 years to cause the matching radiated cracks to change slightly, but, those cracks, still, do match-together very well. (one of the better reports provided for us, "Eternal Return: A Hole Through the Windshield?," that details the windshield's defect is provided by researchers Barb Junkkarinen, Jerry Logan, and Josiah Thompson. This report also focuses details for comparing clear 1963 photos, to the recent clear photos of the defect and its radiated cracks) .... Exploring details further for key considerations.... At that Z-206 instant for the above limo diagram, we can see in the Zapruder film and additional (known) documented photos that President Kennedy is snapping/has rapidly snapped his head a measurable 87 to 90-degrees within the previous, scant, 0.16 micro-second from Z-203 to 206. This was a JFK head snap rotational speed rate that we can measure precisely at an ultrafast 531 to 549-degrees-per-second. ....You can, very simply, personally snap (while filming) your head 90-degrees in one-sixth of a second to obtain a dose-of-reality sense for yourself for the sheer speed of JFK's extremely rapid head snap (that some animated-CAD-fabricator's also decided to choose to ((deliberately?!!)), inaccurately, not even re-create to show us in their C.A.D.-fabrication's). I am still positively convinced by the convergence of many, many very key factors (some of them detailed OTTOMH in the following) that President Kennedy was first bullet-impacted during the micro-second prior to Z-203. The ultrafast, 531 to 549 degrees-per-second head snap rate that JFK exhibited, combined with our knowledge from the documented many, key, close witnesses and the documented many, key, close weapons-experienced witnesses cumulative statements that have detailed for us that President Kennedy had started to smile broader (also confirmed as seen in the Z-film by approximately Z-165 to 167).... .... and then.... .... JFK, first, started his Z-171-beginning right hand wave (witnessed and stated by many persons).... .... and it was distinctly, definitely after that same JFK hand wave had already began that.... .... then.... .... there was fired a "shot" (albeit, an audible muzzle blast or a mechanically-suppressed-fired "silenced" bullet bow shock N-wave that these many documented witnesses remembered hearing (or could hear)). Hugh Betzner stated, unequivocally, that he snapped his third photo and then he started to wind his film inside his camera, and it was after his photo and after he had initially began to wind his camera film that a "shot" was fired that he remembered hearing (or could hear).... Mr. Betzner's pre-gunfire-snapped photo corresponds exactly with Z-186. As documented in the Z-film, the close witness Rosemary Willis begins slowing her trot in the early Z-190's.... Rosemary has stated, unequivocally, that she started to slow her trot in response to and just after the first "shot" that she remembered hearing (or could hear) Following JFK at a close approximate 20' to 25' the weapons-experienced Secret Service Agent George Hickey stated, unequivocally, that he had, first, been looking leftward immediately prior to his hearing (or, being able to hear) his first-heard/first-remembered "shot".... .... then.... .... when Hickey remembered hearing (or could hear) the first "shot" (or, the first shot he could hear), Hickey stated that he, then, immediately turned his head frontward very rapidly, towards the President..... As clearly seen in and documented by the Z-film, and exactly as he also stated, Hickey rapidly turns his head frontward starting at Z-195 to 196 (when we allow 0.25-second, minimum, (four to five Z-frames) for Hickey's refractory neurological-interpret-then-physical-response starting time, it clearly determines for us, to a certainty, that the first audible blast or bullet bow shockwave that Hickey heard (or could hear) happened, at the latest, at Z-190 to 191.... With allowing a mandated one to two Z-frames for bullet flight time, depending on the firing origin location, that "shot" blast or shockwave that Hickey heard was triggered, at the latest, at precisely Z-188 to 190) Weapons-experienced WWII military veteran Phillip Willis unequivocally stated that his already-raised-camera-to-his-face-captured fifth photo was snapped directly because the first "shot" that he remembered hearing (or could hear) that was fired immediately prior to his fifth photo had startled him so much, that, it caused him to then involuntarily press his camera shutter button earlier than he wanted.... Mr. WILLIS's post-gunfire , involuntarily-snapped photo corresponds to Z-202.... .... Extremely interestingly is that, also, at Z-150 to 151, the approximate time of the current-revision of the warrenatti-apologists first audible, supposed, "lone-nut" shot (when factoring JFK's quick response, rapid head turn 0.25-second later starting at Z-155 in response to that bullet completely missing him) the warrenatti claims that Z-150 to 151 shot was fired directly into the branches and leaves foliage in the Posnerian-"lone-nut"-theory "'magic'-limbed-ricochet-tree" (tree branches and foliage that any assassin, during his plaza pre-screening viewing, most likely would have surely been well aware of).... Additionally, at Z-150, President Kennedy (moving at 12 MPH) was still at an Elm Street pinpointed location (and at that same instant a, supposed, "lone-nut" rifle-aiming point) that was over 15' before JFK first passed under the branches of that same tree at Z-166 = over 15' and almost 1-second before JFK went out of the warrenatti-apologists, supposed, "lone-nut" targeting view.... .... and.... .... Very importantly, that same Z-150 instant when a shot was supposedly fired that JFK rapidly turned his head in response to at Z-155 was also a measurable, non-startlement, nearly 3 seconds before Phil Willis's shot-startle-caused involuntary-snapped photo.... and.... at Z-150, Mr. Willis, very clearly, has positioned his hands ---and his camera--- still lowered and far downward, well away from his face.... .... when we allow 0.25-second, minimum, for Willis's refractory neurological-interpret-then-physical-response starting time, it clearly determines for us, to a certainty, that Mr. Willis remembered hearing (or could hear) his first "shot" blast or shockwave, at the latest, at Z-197.... With allowing the additional, mandated, one to two Z-frames for bullet flight time, depending on the assassin's firing origin location, that "shot" blast or shockwave that caused Mr. Willis's photo was triggered at the latest at Z-195 to 196.... Additionally, a very substantial and significant, measurable % of the very key, close witnesses and close weapons-experienced witnesses that could see JFK and his quick reactions during the volley's of shots also stated that JFK did react to this first-heard "shot" blast or shockwave with his dramatically, suddenly quick reactions that clearly proved that he was obviously simultaneously impacted with that same first-heard "shot." To the warrenatti-apologists obvious living-in-denial chagrin's (exactly like the still-unknown badge-flashing "agent" that DPD Joe Smith encountered on the grassy knoll when Smith also smelled gun smoke), and, to the warrenatti-apologists transparent-anxieties.... Extremely important are the facts that President Kennedy's initial Z-190's-starting, first reactions to his being bullet impacted with that first-heard "shot" blast or shockwave, happened when (as measured by the warrenatti-investigators, themselves) while JFK was still hidden from Z-166 to Z-208 under the branches and thicket of foliage leaves of the Posnerian-"lone-nut"-theory "'magic'-limbed-ricochet-tree" that hid JFK out of the view and targeting of the rifle-armed, multiple-persons-witnessed, additional assassin that was located in the warrenatti-apologists, supposed, "lone-nut" "snipers lair," and, that additional assassin was witnessed firing, at least, one downward-aimed shot during the attack volley's of shots. Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (new info, 2012 updated map) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the "Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out....http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
  25. Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2013/02/17/jfk-assassination-newseum-lee-harvey-oswald/1918279/ <QUOTE> JFK Assassination Artifacts to get First Public Viewing More than 100 artifacts are included in an exhibit at the Newseum in Washington, D.C. PHOTO: Lee Harvey Oswald was wearing this shirt, seen in this Nov. 22, 1963, photo, when he was arrested and charged in the death of President John F. Kennedy. STORY HIGHLIGHTS Newseum exhibit of Lee Harvey Oswald items opens April 12 The exhibit contains more than 100 artifacts Collection of photos, Newseum-produced film also showing WASHINGTON — An off-white jacket. A casual long-sleeve shirt. A turquoise-and- orange wool blanket. A wallet that contains a Social Security card and family snapshots. While these relics from the early '60s sound like everyday items, they are priceless pieces of history tied to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Beginning April 12, visitors to the Newseum in the nation's capital will have the rare chance to view these never-before-displayed artifacts belonging to Lee Harvey Oswald, the presumed gunman, as part of an exhibit marking the 50th anniversary of JFK's death. Oswald, who wore the shirt and carried the wallet when he was arrested on Nov. 22, 1963, in Dallas, was himself shot and killed two days later by Dallas nightclub owner Jack Ruby, a crime that was caught live on TV. The jacket was found at a gas station near the Texas Theater, where Oswald was captured. Oswald's rifle, which was kept wrapped in the blanket in a friend's garage, was found at the Texas School Book Depository in Dallas shortly after JFK was shot. "This is a pretty incredible opportunity to work with the National Archives and be able to display these pieces," says Carrie Christoffersen, Newseum curator and director of collections. Christoffersen says the purpose of "Three Shots Were Fired," an exhibit of more than 100 artifacts, including the first UPI report about the attack on the presidential motorcade, "is to tell the story of how news media responded and how it fulfilled its responsibility to the public. It was a unique time in American and journalism history. The shooting led to unprecedented TV coverage over four days on the networks commercial-free. This was at a time when nightly newscasts had only just expanded from 15 minutes to a half-hour." A collection of photos, "Creating Camelot: The Kennedy Photography of Jacques Lowe," as well as a Newseum-produced film, A Thousand Days, will bring to life the youthful glamour that the first family brought to the White House, as well as newsworthy moments of JFK's short presidency. The exhibit, which runs through Jan. 5, 2014, will include an interactive feature that allows visitors of all ages to share the defining "JFK moment'' in their life, whether it was the bombing at Pearl Harbor or memories of 9/11. <END QUOTE> Best Regards in Research ++++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3966/dppluschartsupdated1111.gif (new info, 2012 updated map) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the "Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out....http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
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