Don Roberdeau

Dr. TONI GLOVER Comes Forward Publicly Good Day.... Recently Dr. TONI GLOVER started posting publicly to the JFK assassination forums and newsgroups, stating that she was a Dealey Plaza assassination witness who was standing up on the pedestal near the north, curved end of the North Reflecting Pool's east side where a young woman wearing a turquoise-blue coat is seen in several films standing with another woman.... BELL film HUGHES film DORMAN film TONI had previously completed an oral history (in 2 parts) for The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza, after which the SFM wrote.... Dr. Toni Glover Standing on a concrete pedestal at the corner of Houston and Elm Streets in Dealey Plaza, eleven-year-old Toni Glover witnessed the Kennedy assassination. Seeing the president's death, connected emotionally to her abusive childhood, had a traumatic impact on her life. Recorded January 20, 1999, and March 14, 2012. On 2-2-12 GARY MACK wrote to researcher GERDA DUNKEL http://www.jfkassass...pic,5834.0.html .... "Her name was Toni Glover, she was 11 years old and she did not know who the other girl was. Toni did an oral history for The Sixth Floor Museum in 1999, though a transcript has not yet been made. She thought two shots were fired and she's recently returned to the Museum's Reading Room to do research for some project." When she came forward publicly on 4-16-12, Dr. GLOVER initially wrote http://groups.google...4ff8b1a8?hl=en .... I've been writing a memoir about watching Kennedy's head explode, and I came across this site. For what it's worth, I was standing on top of a cement block at the corner of Houston and Elm. Eleven year old girl in a blue ski jacket. Robert Hughes, Mark Bell and Frances Dornan films all catch glimpses. And as hard as it is for folks to believe it, one little jerk fired from the window and got off a couple of lucky shots. An idiot killed Kennedy. One idiot who had a huge fight with his wife that morning. I had a panoramic view, and there was no conspiracy. Terrible sadness, but no conspiracy. Toni On 4-19-12 Dr. GLOVER wrote.... Oh Lordy. I have stepped into it. I knew nothing about this site. It was late and I searched my name and Kennedy. When John's work showed up I was stunned and wrote a stupid email. Let's start over. My name is Toni (Antoinette) Glover. I was born in Dallas, Texas at Methodist Hospital on February, 14, 1952. (That's right, Valentine's Day) I lived in Oak Cliff, about 5 minutes from downtown. I was eleven. After a lot of begging, my mom took me to the parade. We went straight to Dealey Plaza thinking the end of the parade would have the least people. I don't remember anyone else there when we arrived. An excited 11 year old, I kept running back and forth from my "perch" to Main Street looking down it to see if I could tell the cars were coming. I did this several times. On one of those trips to Main, a guy had a seizure at Main and Houston. I was afraid they would divert the parade because of the ambulance. I went back to my cement block before they turned onto Houston. When the limo passed he looked up, waved and smiled. Then he turned the corner and a couple of seconds later, his head exploded. There is a column that blocked my view for a couple of seconds, but then the car reappeared and bang. From my perspective, the plume of brains and blood sparkled a little in the Texas sun. I told my mom someone threw sparklers in the car!!!! I have no other evidence of any kind about the assassination. Announcing that Oswald was, "an idiot" and other remarkable statements I made were at best ill-informed. I am not an historian. I will stick to telling my experience and let you historians figure out who did what. My personal belief is that Oswald acted alone. But that's just my opinion. I didn't see anything like odd individuals, or flashes or anything else that would make me think otherwise. Loud noises echo in downtown Dallas. I "think" I heard 2 shots, but I have always qualified that by saying "everything echoes down there". I'm not sure how anyone can tell where the shots came from. But many feel otherwise. I'm happy to answer questions about my life and experience, but drawing conclusions is above my pay grade. I know I was standing on the cement block the entire time Kennedy was on Houston and Elm. I have no idea who's view I blocked. And I'm not sure who is on the block with me. I doubt my mom would have crawled up that high. .... and on 4-19-12 .... Some answers: At eleven I was 5' 6", had a long pony tail, and I'll go to my grave before telling anyone what I weighed. The deal I made with my mom was: If I went to school, she would pick me up at 11:00 and take me to the parade. That's the only reason I had on a skirt. We had horses and I usually wore jeans. The sagging knee socks were worn because I was jealous of a new girl in my class and was trying to copy her.[/font color] .... At that point, instead of the majority of thread-posters choosing to actually engage-their-brain and ask Dr. GLOVER questions that she had already clearly offered to freely answer, during the next 2 days thread- posters chose to mostly, acidickly, argue among themselves about how witness AMOS EUINS claimed in a Fall 2011 National Geographic TV program, "The Lost Bullet," that during the shots he had ducked-down behind the same, close pedestal that TONI said she was standing on top of (rather than the thread-posters simply, smartly, taking the EUINS aspects to a different, newly initiated thread) I then simply contacted TONI and simultaneously posted the following straightforward questions for her, based on my previous contacts with 42 Dealey Plaza witnesses.... Good Day Toni.... Thank You very much for your help + taking the time to search and share for this newsgroup your observations and thoughts with respect to 11-22-63. I positively do recall Gary Mack mentioning several years ago (seems like it was around 1999 ?) about a woman walking into the Sixth Floor Museum and claiming to be an assassination witness, and that woman was trying to find photographic evidence of her being in Dealey Plaza on 11-22-63. (I will search in my extensive news timeline archive, emails, and notes for his mentioning that) A couple months ago I also read on another JFK forum thread that Gary did mention you by name, and I provided that other thread link in this thread's earlier post of mine. Off the top of my head.... Before 11-22-63 did you have any experience firing a weapon, and / or, being around other persons firing a weapon? (I always ask every Dealey Plaza witness about this because of the 42 witnesses I have contacted, several of them did have weapons experience and / or around gunfire from the time they were a young child) ....Have you fired a weapon and/or been around gunfire since 11-22-63? What is your Mom's name? (same on 11-22-63?) What time did you and your Mom arrive near / in Dealey Plaza that day? Where did your Mom park her car? What did you and your Mom do after arriving, and before the presidential limousine came into Dealey Plaza? Do you remember any other details about the man having the epileptic seizures close to "your" North Reflecting Pool cement pedestal, just minutes before JFK came into the plaza? Did you remain on "your" elevated cement pedestal after President Kennedy turned onto Elm Street and had already passed you? Were you still up on that cement pedestal during the shots? (if not, where?) Could you see the presidential limousine when the first shot that you remembered hearing was fired? (if not, what did you see?) What direction were you facing when you heard the first shot? ....the second? Could you please specifically estimate how much time was there between the 2 shots that you remembered hearing? Did each shot sound the same in loudness and pitch, or, did each sound different? Where did each of the shots seem to originate from, relative to your standing elevated location on "your" pedestal? Did you realize that the 2 shots were gunfire, or, did you think that one or both of them were something else? What were your reactions between the shots, then, immediately afterwards? Where did you first look towards for each of the shots, then, where did you look immediately afterwards? Please describe any echoes from the shots in terms of loudness, length, number of echoes, etc. Did you smell anything noticeable or distinctly different right after the shots ended? Along with when you were able to see the presidential limousine occupants, did you view any of the other cars or police cyclists personal actions and reactions during or right after the shots? Do you remember any of your nearby co-witnesses doing, saying, etc anything specific during the shots, or in the aftermath? From where you were during the shots, did you hear a high level of crowd noise, yells, or clapping, etc? Where was your Mom standing during the shots? What does your Mom say about what she remembers about the shots, the assassination, and its aftermath, etc? Would she be willing to detail her observations for us publicly, or her details passed on for us from her, through you? How long did you both stay in Dealey Plaza after the assassination ended? ....The reason I ask Toni is because if you stayed in Dealey Plaza for even a minimum of minutes, there is a decent chance that you were photographed and/or filmed, and we might be able to help locate you within the many aftermath photos/films. The longer you and your Mom stayed, the higher the chances are that you were photographed/ filmed.... In relation to that, what was your Mom wearing that day? ....her height? ....hair color? ....hair style? ....was she carrying a purse? ....Etc., etc Were there any other friends of yours and/or your Mom's that were also in Dealey Plaza? (: hopefully, with a camera, or movie camera! Since that day, have you met any other assassination witnesses? How closely have you followed the assassination investigations by the U.S. government, books, magazines, radio, internet, TV documentaries, etc? Are you and your Mom going to provide the Sixth Floor Museum with an jointly done oral history for their archives? I will be adding you and your Mom's name and precise location within my Dealey Plaza map (: I have been steadily updating the map for several months, and will provide it updated for everyone, soon Also adding you and your Mom for my detailed, referenced list of DP witnesses and before/after events-persons. Thanks again for your help. Best Regards, Don .... Within hours the same day, TONI wrote her detailed answers.... I'll do my best to answer the questions. 1. My mom's name was Dorothy Glover in 1963. My parents divorced in 1958, and she kept the name until she remarried in 1973 to Jake Best. I'm the youngest of six. They had a boy, and then 5 girls. Mom was born October 30, 1918, named Dorothy Mae Haley in either Dallas or Rising Star, Texas. I'll look it up. 2. We were wayyyyyy early. We probably got there around 11:15. Lots of time for me to run around looking for the best view. I was so anxious. I went down Elm on the grass, came back up and finally decided on the pedestal. I do not remember anyone else there that early. I think we were the first ones there. Someone might be able to dispute that. But that's what I remember. Then I ran back and forth from my perch on the pedestal to the intersection of Main and Houston to see if the motorcade coming down Main. 3 We parked on Elm in the first block from Houston. We were so early, we intended to drive through Dealey Plaza and see how many people there were. and this street parking spot appeared close to Houston, and we pulled in considering it a stroke of good luck. I cannot tell your exactly how far down Elm we were parked. My memory says in the first block from Houston. If anyone gets a picture of the first two blocks down Elm. I "should" be able to pick out her car. My older sisters and brother might know the make and model. I don't. I remember colors, and I think the car was purple with fins. Go figure. 4. I knew a woman who had seizures so I knew what they looked like. I remember him on the ground on the west side of Houston, I'm not sure whether it was the north or south corners. Main street was blocked off at Houston because it a two-way street, and he might have been very close to lying in the street. But I think he was on the NW corner. My instinct was to help, but there were cops calling for an ambulance, and I was so distracted by the coming parade, that this event wasn't nearly as important as "is the car EVER going to get to Houston!!" 5. The instant the limo disappeared onto the highway, I whirled around to get down and the was a guy sitting on the grass, leaning against the pedestal on the Houston side. I probably wouldn't have noticed him at all except he wouldn't move to let me down so I had to crawl to the stone fence to get down. I don't know who he was or where he was before I turned around. Mom and I were shocked he wouldn't move. PLEASE, folks on the list, I know nothing else about this guy. To the best of my memory no one ever hid on the south end of the pedestal. BUt guys, let me qualify all this. I was transfixed in the president's limo. I wouldn't have noticed Mickey Mouse standing next to me during the time I had eyes on the president. BUT when something happens that makes you change your path (not jump off but crawl to the fence) it's memorable. I remember him being dark complected, but mom and I thought he was Hispanic not black. Don't know what this does to the Euins discussion, but that's what we both saw and talked about at home. My sisters remember us telling them that, too. 6. Yes. I was up on the pedestal from the moment the limo turned onto Houston, to the second it went under the Triple Underpass.So I was up there for the shots. This March I was in Dallas doing research in the Museum's Reading Room, and I decided to walk across the street to Dealey Plaza. I climbed up on the pedestal (not an easy task at 60) and took a video of my view, panning from Main all the way around to the underpass. I also took a picture of my view of the head shot from the pedestal. Happy to send either. Let me reiterate here that I am researching people's emotional reaction and how it effected them throughout there lives. That's why I've watched hours of oral histories. I have never done research on who shot the president or why. 7. There is a column in the PLaza that blocked my view for a second. I think the first shot was when my view was blocked. I'll send the video and you can see exactly when I could see what. 8. I have no idea how many shots were fired (I think I heard 2), but anyone serious about this needs to go down there and listen to how much it echoes in the canyons of downtown Dallas. I have always qualified my answer by saying it echoed so much, I couldn't tell how many shots (at least 2) or where any of them came from. After the first shot, I looked at my mom, but other than that, my eyes were glued on the car. It was an extraordinarily emotional time for me. I don't know how many people have seen a human head explode, but I was eleven and it traumatized me. So remembering details is mixed with a LOT of emotion. I do my best. 9. Didn't smell anything (certain on that one). 10. I saw there were cars following, but again, my gaze was transfixed on the president's car. You can see in one of the photos I'm waving my arms at the president as he turned the corner onto Elm. I didn't pay any attention to the other cars. 11. In the aftermath people were stunned at first, then it became chaotic. I had yelled "someone threw fireworks in the car" and I remember people looking up at me cause they couldn't see anything and I could. But that lasted only second, because I immediately tried to get down and people had started moving down Elm. 12. As soon as I got down, I looked around for sources that might know what's really happening, and saw a police motorcycle (maybe 2?) parked in front of the SBD steps. I ran over there to listen to what the police were being told. I tried not to act like I was listening. I was there for maybe 30 seconds (I don't know exactly) when I heard the words "shot in the head." I immediately ran back to my mom. She had a heart condition and we were always trying to protect her from stress, so I lied and said, "It only grazed his head, let's go home." We walked the block to our car and drove straight down Elm like any other day. It wasn't blocked off. It amazes me that they let cars drive through the scene 5 minutes after the assassination. Now that we have all the crime solving TV, it seems odd that a crime scene was not blocked off. SO, in a nutshell: I was on the pedestal until the car vanished, I got off and ran across the street to listen to the police radios, I went back to my mom (still near the pedestal) and told her his head was grazed and that we should leave right away. I was acutely aware of her heart condition and wanted to get her out of there ASAP. SO I was in the Plaza 2-3 minutes after the final shot? Timing this is very difficult for me. It could have been 1 minute, but not more than 5. I'm guessing it took 2-3 minutes for me to go hear the radios, get back to my mom and leave. I know it was fast. 13. Mom died in 1996. In fact it was her death that made me start thinking I needed to contact someone at the Museum. The thing she talked about most was the guy who wouldn't let us down. Geez it's hard for me to remember what she wore. I know I tried to get her up on the pedestal, but it was high. At one point when we were waiting, we both sat on the stone fence. But that was long before anything happened. I want to say that's mom next to me, but I can't be sure. Logically, it would have been odd for her to lose all dignity and climb up there. But it looks like her coat in Dorman. the woman could definitely be my mom. It looks like I hug her as the limo turns onto Elm. The top of the pedestal is slanted, very slightly from the edge to the center. That made it a little tricky not to fall off. I was probably trying to steady whoever is up there. That's the best I can do unless I find a family picture of her in that coat. I'll tell my sisters to go through some family albums. 14. No friends there. Only me and mom. 15. After viewing a number of oral histories, I found 2-3 that were near my age. The museum graciously let me hold a mini "private symposium," focusing on their emotional journey. Neither one of them were witnesses in Dallas that day, but they had emotional reactions similar to mine. 15. I have not followed anything in 40 years. The first few years when all kinds of theories were coming out, I paid attention. But not since. I was shocked to find this group. Let me interject something I know a lot about. Many, many witnesses developed a completely irrational yet paralyzing fear that "if I talk, someone will come get me and kill me." Laugh if you want, but go look at the oral histories at the Sixth Floor Museum. I've watched grown people weeping as they try to retell their experience. I've seen professionals choke through tears. Many people did not come forward for 30 - 45 years out of a fear that someone would come get them and kill them. My first attempt to talk to the historians at the museum was in 1988(?), but I left. I was still afraid. I KNOW. NOT RATIONAL. Then I finally did an oral history in 1999, and another in March this year. I wish I had an exact schematic drawing of my end of the reflecting pool to the corner curb. I could point out exactly where I was and when. Trying to explain it with words doesn't produce a clear picture. Did I answer all the questions. Parts are clear and some parts are fuzzy. I can only do my best. That's how memory works, well my does. Clear pieces/fuzzy pieces. Sometimes a picture clears up a fuzzy memory. I thought trees blocked my view for that second I couldn't see the car, but when I went back in March, I climbed up on the pedestal and discovered it was the column, not a tree, that blocked my view. Things like that show you how memory tries to fill in the blanks. Toni .... and she wrote.... I forgot the first question. My family did not hunt, but dad always had a gun. He taught me how to fire a rifle. I was pretty good, but it was just for fun out in the pasture. When I looked out the sniper's window last year (for the first time), the shot looked amazingly easy to me. Perspective is everything. .... and she posted.... For those interested. FACT: The top of the pedestal has a slight rise from the edges to the center of it. The top is shaped like the little roof of a house, with a peak down the middle running N. to S. It's only a 2-3 " rise, but it's just enough to feel unstable when you're up there. It's not flat on top. Your feet are standing at an slight angle. And as I said, it was a long way down. Look at my height compared to the height of the block. I say this because yes, usually people move around, but it wasn't easy keeping your balance up there especially when you turned. I'm GUESSING that we stayed pretty much still, until we turned toward Elm. Then you see me kind of holding and steadying the other person when we turned and looked at Elm. We had to go from 2 feet standing toes down/heels up on the same side of the slant watching Houston, to one foot on either side of the slant. The turn was tricky. That's why it doesn't help to identify the woman as my mom "because I was holding her." IT COULD BE MY MOM. I'm just saying I would have 'steadied' anyone I was up there with. .... and.... Just a thought. Someone might ask Euins what color my underwear was, because if he crouched where he indicated, he could of seen straight up my skirt. Just a thought. .... and.... When I finally talked to the Museum, I said I'd never seen a picture that showed where I was. They sent me to Bob Porter's office. He asked what I was wearing. I knew I had the blue ski jacket with me, but I "reasoned" that I probably had on jeans. Then he pulled up Mark Bell's film and stopped it on me. I literally sank to the floor, speechless. Like being hit by a truck. There I was. Bob leaned down and said, "You had on a black skirt, " and I instantly remembered mom picked me up at school! THAT's why I had on a skirt. We had to wear skirts to school back then. That's the ONLY reason I'd be wearing one. Bob also did my first oral history a few months later. .... On the day when Toni provided her detailed answers quoted above to my original set of questions, I then utilized the films by Dorman, Bell, Hughes, and another film to photo-grammatically determine her precise location on one of my DP maps, + then, after considering her detailed answers, I wrote her and publicly posted the following 2-days later on 4-23-12.... (QUOTE) Good Day Toni .... Sorry to hear about your Mom passing on. Please accept my very sincere condolences. Along with your observations, I was truly hoping to also learn the details that your Mom recalled with respect to the assassination. Can you please detail what she shared about 11-22-63? Was she wearing a longish, light colored coat (possibly beige) that day?; in clear Zapruder frames there looks to be someone sitting atop the North Reflecting Pool’s east side wall, about 5’ to 6’ south of the pedesta l you stood on, facing towards you. Recently also lost a Loved One who was a Best Friend, and have a Longtime Friend who was a 3x-un-defeated football fellow-Champion Teammate fellow-linebacker who is “knockin’ on heaven’s door” since his being stricken with pancreas, liver, and spinal tumors. Thank You, very much, for providing your additional details for us from my questions, and for your emails and sharing your photos and video. I am looking forward to speaking with you. All of your observations are truly interesting, and, several of them are very, very interesting.... ~ ~ ~ ~ E-e-e-especially interesting is your primary observation that you could NOT see President Kennedy when the first shot that you remembered hearing was fired…. I simply must ask again, so everything is crystal clear…. Are you 100% certain that JFK had already gone out of your view when you heard the first shot? …. If not, how many second(s) had he already been out of your view?) ….That key time stamping detail of JFK being out of your view when a shot was fired led me to photo-grammatically locate your exact location, as determined by the multiple, intersecting lines-of-sight for you as seen in the Bell, Hughes, and Dorman films, and I determined your precise location to be here, shown on my scaled, accurate Dealey Plaza map…. http://imageshack.us/a/img542/718/4zl.gif (if that map appears small when you initially open it, simply click on it to enlarge) (: An aside…. On that map I have had the scaled presidential limousine placed at that specific location for many, many years, and, the location of President Kennedy’s head within that limo is exactly even with you, Toni Very interestingly, and exactly as your detailed assassination observations stated, President Kennedy could have first gone out of your view when the pyracantha tree foliage a few feet north of the large, tall cement column-monument first started to block JFK from your view at Z-174 to 175 (labeled “TGt-1” for your line-of-sight to JFK on my DP map) (the pyracantha tree foliage round outline is colored in green and sized on my scaled, accurate DP map exactly as it was seen in photos and films on 11-22-63) If the pyracantha tree did not first block your view of JFK, then, exactly as you stated, the tall column-monument’s north, pointed side definitely would have first started to block President Kennedy from your view at Z-180 to 181 (labeled “TGc-1” for your line-of-sight on my DP map) Then, as you stated, President Kennedy would have been visible to you, again, just past the south side of the tall column-monument, starting at Z-217 to 218 (labeled “TGc-2” for your line-of-sight on my DP map) (employing the standard AVERAGE running time of the Zapruder film of 18.3 frames-per-second, JFK would have been out of your view for exactly 2.3 seconds (if the pyracantha tree first blocked him), to 2.0 seconds (if the column-monument first blocked him) I will also say that your timing of the first shot that you heard happening between Z-174 and 218 is right in line with many of the close witnesses and close weapons-experienced witnesses who stated that JFK, first, started waving (which he starts at Z-170 to 171), and after he first started waving, THEN the first shot happened and he immediately, dramatically, physically quickly reacted to it impacting him ultra-rapidly snapping his head 87-degrees at Z-203 to 206, shaking his head, raising his arms/hands, and then facing back towards and leaning towards his wife. Here’s something I discovered today that am sure that you will appreciate, and that since you have not mentioned it, you have not noticed, nor has anyone pointed out for you…. until now…. Being very familiar with the plaza, its perspectives, measurements, etc, I had a sense about something, so, I drew the line-of-sight on my scaled, accurate DP map from Mr. Zapruder’s camera lens, to you…. . . . . I am absolutely certain that you are in the Zapruder film !!!! Including on my accurate map Mr. Zapruder’s camera line-of-sight to your location led me to closely examining several of the clear Zapruder frames between 177 and about 216. There surely is, what positively appears to be to me, your blue-coated arm + hand that is lowered and still away from your side (since the torso, vertical side of your coat is not seen). Your arm/hand can just be seen in the Zapruder film along the south side of the column-monument (along the right side of the column-monument as seen in the Zap film). I can provide the Zap frames for you, if you want. As you stated when you continued to strive to see JFK, this was probably your arm and hand because you had turned and were then facing the grassy kno!! (and/or, striving to keep safely balanced atop your pedestal, as you stated) Your arm/hand also looks like they changed positions a bit during during those 2.1 seconds between Z-177 to 216. Your arm/hand also appear at what would have been the correct height while you were, as you stated, still standing up elevated on “Glover’s pedestal” during the shots (: Yes…. I now think we researchers should label that pedestal for you! Also, I have actually stood atop and videotaped from what is, now and forever, for me, “Glover’s pedestal,” and I know that you could have seen over the North Peristyle’s western-most cement (lower wall), and also westward you could have seen through the open spaces underneath the 2 trees foliage, and that, as you stated earlier, you could have seen President Kennedy at Z-313. (I have also just finished checking photos and films captured from 11-22-63 and the days thereafter to confirm those trees had enough viewing clearance under them, then) And just to make certain it is asked…. The president’s head did explode simultaneously with the 2nd shot you heard? Quick question…. after JFK first was hidden from your view after Z-174 to 181, and then, the first shot that you remembered was fired, do you recall if you backed-up a foot or two southward on your pedestal, or, did you stand un-moving? …. Do you recall if the first shot you remembered hearing while JFK was out of your view made your upper body/ arms jump some or a lot in startlement? Can you please estimate exactly how many seconds were there between the 2 shots you heard? (END QUOTE) Dr. GLOVER seems like a very good woman, and has agreed to further one-to-one interviews. Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... 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FYI.... http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/apr/18/last-surviving-fbi-agent-at-jfk-autopsy-dies-in/ <QUOTE> Last surviving FBI agent at JFK autopsy dies in Fort Myers By STEPHANIE BORDEN Posted April 18, 2012 at 8:26 p.m. James Sibert He was the last surviving FBI agent to attend the autopsy of President John F. Kennedy. But, as family and friends say, James Sibert was much more than that. A husband, father and decorated World War II veteran, Sibert died April 6 in Fort Myers of complications following a hospital fall. Sibert was 93, and a memorial service Saturday will remember his life. It starts at 10:30 a.m. and will be at Cypress Lake United Methodist Church, 8570 Cypress Lake Drive, Fort Myers. "I do believe he will have a place in history," said his son Bob Sibert, a former FBI agent now working as a consultant for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in Washington, D.C. A junior in high school when Kennedy was assassinated Nov. 22, 1963, Bob Sibert said he didn't realize the significance of his father's role in the autopsy at the Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Md., until later, "when dad began getting solicited by authors writing books about the assassination." "There were a lot of people writing wild conspiracy stories," he explained. "He was rather guarded, and referred them to the FBI Press Office. But once he retired and was granted permission to share his observations, he was very concerned that they would not be spun or used to advance some theory he didn't believe to be true." James Sibert was an Indianapolis native who had lived in the Fort Myers area since his 1972 retirement from the bureau, As a World War II B-24 bomber pilot and Squadron Commander flying 32 missions, he was awarded the Silver Star and the Distinguished Flying Cross. He became an FBI agent and received notoriety because he attended JFK's autopsy. Observations Sibert made during the autopsy included the his statement in many published interviews that he "didn't buy the single bullet theory," which was key to the Warren Commission's conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman at Dealey Plaza that fateful day. "I've heard him say that," Bob Sibert said. "As an FBI agent, you're trained when you go to anything like this to observe and take detailed notes. The agents were not doctors. And at that time, the FBI had no jurisdiction in the assassination of a president. At the end, he was denying interviews. He said 'there's nothing left to say.'" The second agent observing the autopsy that day was Francis O'Neill, who died in Boston in 2009 at age 85. A group of his fellow retired FBI agents plans to attend Saturday's memorial service. Sibert was active in the Society of Former Special Agents of the FBI. Headquartered in Virginia, the local group's territory extends from Port Charlotte to Marco Island and attracts as many as 40 members. Retired agent Paul Nolan of Fort Myers, who moved his family 29 times during his FBI career, met Sibert during a local meeting in the late 1990s. "In the FBI world," he reports, "there is more of a family relationship because of the work we do. It's confidential, so you can't share details of your work around the dinner table at home. Even after retirement, agents still regard themselves as agents. "When one of our members or spouses passed, he had a long written outline of the tasks that needed to be performed," Nolan said of James Sibert. "He'd visit with the families, help prepare insurance forms, visit with bankers and stockbrokers, and ensure that widows were protected" when approached by strangers offering to help with their financial issues. Although Sibert's name is preserved in the FBI's report "Autopsy of Body of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy" and in countless books, articles, and blogs, he preferred that his legacy be that of a loving husband, father, grandfather, and great-grandfather, his son said. Soloist Rob Liddle will sing the hymn "My Father's Chair" at Saturday's celebration of life memorial service, remembering how Sibert could be found at every 11 a.m. Sunday service in pew number 6, on the corner. The retired FBI agent was "a true gentleman, humble, articulate, and always in a suit at church," Liddle says. "He wouldn't really talk about the Kennedy autopsy other than to say he was there." Even though Sibert had suffered health problems recently, Liddle says, "he never complained. He cared more about what's going on with you than what's going on with him." The week of his death, four retired veterans lined up in his Hope Hospice room to give him a final salute. <END QUOTE> Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... 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Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.miamihera...assination.html <QUOTE> Fresh meat for JFK assassination hounds There's only one certainty about historians of the Kennedy assassination: They're a contentious lot. BY GLENN GARVIN GGARVIN@MIAMIHERALD.COM There's an old joke about economists — if you took every single one in the world and laid them all end-to-end, they still wouldn't reach a conclusion — that could also probably be told about historians of the Kennedy assassination. Their books are often fiercely contentious, festooned with bitter criticism of one another. Brian Latell's book Castro's Secrets: The CIA And Cuba's Intelligence Machine will doubtless have its own legions of bitter critics and stalwart defenders. Already the book's thesis — that Fidel Castro knew in advance that Lee Harvey Oswald planned to take a shot at President Kennedy that day in Dallas — is stirring up arguments among old assassination hands. "The notion of Castro being in any way connected to the assassination is preposterous on its face," snorts Vincent Bugliosi, the former California prosecutor who put mass murderer Charles Manson in jail and is the author of an encyclopedic 1.5-million-word book on the assassination called Reclaiming History. "The notion that Castro would do something that would result in the blowing up of his own country — which is exactly what would have happened if anyone found out — is just crazy.... There's no evidence he knew what was on Oswald's mind. Oswald himself did not know what was on his mind." Like Bugliosi, Edward Jay Epstein — author of the recent e-book The JFK Assassination Theories, as wells as three trailblazing works published between 1966 and 1978 — hasn't read Castro's Secrets yet. (It won't reach stores for another month.) But he thinks a Castro connection to Kennedy's death is not only plausible, but likely. "There is no doubt that Castro knew about the CIA plans to assassinate him, and he warned the American government that he knew by telling a reporter about it," Epstein said. "If a Mafia leader did that same thing, and the next day the other guy was found dead, that would be a prima facie case and he'd be the lead suspect." Gus Russo, author of two books of his own (Live By The Sword and Brothers In Arms) that tie the assassination to Castro, using some of the same evidence that Latell does, agrees: "Most people do agree that Kennedy was trying to murder Castro. So why isn't Castro the No. 1 suspect?" Miami Beach writer Gerald Posner is author of the enormously popular and influential Case Closed, which debunked some of the most popular assassination conspiracy theories. Nonetheless, Posner thinks Latell may be onto something. "If there's an area of the case where something new still could emerge, it's the part connected to the CIA and Castro," he said. "There's always a possibility that the Cubans knew what Oswald was going to do because of his visit to their embassy in Mexico City. And if the Cubans knew, so did the Soviets and so did the CIA, because they were all monitoring each other like crazy. You could have a whole new ballgame." But any scenario involving Castro even indirectly in the assassination is unlikely, argues Peter Kornbluh, director of the Cuba Documentation Project at the National Security Archive and author of several books about U.S.-Cuba relations in the Kennedy era. "In the last several months of his life, Kennedy sent several peace feelers to Castro," Kornbluh said. "Kennedy even had a guy in Cuba [French journalist Jean Daniel] talking to Castro about rapprochement at the moment of the assassination. Why would Castro want to do anything that encourage the murder of the first American president willing to talk about coexistence with the Cuban revolution?" Historian Max Holland, however, isn't impressed with that argument. "Yes, Kennedy was quietly talking peace, but at the same time there's no doubt there was a plan for engineering a military coup in Cuba, as a part of which Castro would be killed," said the author of The Kennedy Assassination Tapes. "These two things may seem contradictory, but I'm not sure they really were. I think the idea was to make Castro lower his guard, make him think we weren't after him, and then...well, get him." <END QUOTE> .... and, the same-day article .... http://www.miamihera...nation-did.html <QUOTE> The Kennedy assassination: Did Castro know in advance? A new book by former CIA analyst Brian Latell details evidence that Cuban intelligence knew beforehand of JFK's assassination BY GLENN GARVIN GGARVIN@MIAMIHERALD.COM PHOTO http://media.miamihe...hsBqA.St.56.jpg On Jan. 1, 1962, more than a year before the assassination, Cubans held a mock funeral for a still very-much-alive JFK, a reflection of tensions between Cuba and the United States. PHOTO http://media.miamihe...9eWrN.St.56.jpg A Miami Herald story two months before the assassination quotes Fidel Castro alluding to America's efforts to kill him and warning of consequences. Miami Herald archive PHOTO http://media.miamihe...mDNQ6.St.56.jpg After Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested but before details about him were published, Cuban intelligence offcials knew a great deal about him, wiretaps showed. Tom Dillard / © Tom Dillard/Dallas Morning New THE AUTHOR Brian Latell began tracking Cuba for the CIA in the 1960s. Today he does his Cuba watching from the University of Miami. The orders surprised the Cuban intelligence officer. Most days in his tiny communications hut, just outside Fidel Castro's isolated family compound on the west side of Havana, were spent huddled over his radio gear, trolling the island's airwaves for the rapid-fire bursts of signals that were the trademark of CIA spies and saboteurs, pinpointing their location for security forces. But now his assignment had abruptly been changed, at least for the day. "The leadership wants you to stop your CIA work, all your CIA work," his boss said. Instead, the officer was told he had a new target: Texas, "any little detail small detail from Texas." And about three hours later, shortly after mid-day on Nov. 22, 1963, the shocked intelligence officer had something to report that was much more than a small detail: the assassination in Dallas of President John F. Kennedy. "Castro knew," the intelligence officer would tell a CIA debriefer years later, after defecting to the United States. "They knew Kennedy would be killed." The defector's tale is reported in a book to be published next month by retired CIA analyst Brian Latell, the agency's former national intelligence officer for Latin America and now a senior research associate at the University of Miami's Institute for Cuban and Cuban American Studies. The book, Castro's Secrets: The CIA and Cuba's Intelligence Machine, is the first substantial study of Fidel Castro's intelligence operations. Based on interviews with Cuban spies who defected as well as declassified documents from the CIA, the FBI, the Pentagon and other national security organs, it contains a good deal of material likely to stir controversy, including accounts of how Castro's spies have carried out political murders, penetrated the U.S. government and generally outwitted their American counterparts. But nothing is more potentially explosive than Latell's claim that Kennedy's assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, warned Cuban intelligence officers in advance of his plans to kill the president. Latell writes that Oswald, a belligerent Castro supporter, grew frustrated when officials at the Cuban embassy in Mexico City refused to give him a visa to travel to the island, and promised to shoot Kennedy to prove his revolutionary credentials. "Fidel knew of Oswald's intentions — and did nothing to deter the act," the book declares. Even so, Latell maintains his work is sober and even reserved. "Everything I write is backed up by documents and on-the-record sources," he told The Miami Herald. "There's virtually no speculation. I don't say Fidel Castro ordered the assassination, I don't say Oswald was under his control. He might have been, but I don't argue that, because I was unable to find any evidence for that. "But did Fidel want Kennedy dead? Yes. He feared Kennedy. And he knew Kennedy was gunning for him. In Fidel's mind, he was probably acting in self-defense." If Latell's prose is sober, the events it describes are anything but. Castro's Secrets, to be published by Palgrave Macmillan, explores a confusing and deadly chapter of the 1960s when the Cold War nearly turned hot. The United States, fearful that Castro's revolution would provide the Soviet Union a toehold in the Western Hemisphere, backed a bloody invasion of anti-communist Cuban exiles at the Bay of Pigs. The Soviets put nuclear missiles in Cuba, which left the entire world teetering on the brink of war for two weeks. And even when everyone took a step back, U.S.-supported raids and sabotage continued in Cuba. The CIA hatched several plots to kill Castro, using everything from poisoned cigars to exploding sea shells, and Castro offered chilling hints that he might be planning to respond in kind. "U.S. leaders should think that if they are aiding terrorist plans to eliminate Cuban leaders, they themselves will not be safe," he told an American reporter in September 1963. Against that backdrop, suspicions of a Cuban connection to the Kennedy assassination were only natural. And they were heightened by the erratic activities of Oswald, a lifelong Marxist who left the Marine Corps in 1959 to defect to the Soviet Union, where he attempted to renounce his U.S. citizenship and married a Russian woman whose uncle was a colonel in military intelligence. By 1963, Oswald had returned to the United States. But just a few months before Kennedy's death, at a time when tensions between Havana and Washington simmered only slightly below war temperature, Oswald's outspoken public support for Cuba — he had staged several one-man demonstrations and even scuffled with members of an anti-Castro group — had come to the attention of the news media in New Orleans, where he was living at the time. And he had also attracted the attention of the CIA, which had the Mexico City embassies of Cuba and the Soviet Union under tight surveillance. The agency spotted Oswald at both embassies on multiple visits between Sept. 27 and Oct. 2, 1963, as he sought visas to travel to either country. Those visits — particularly to the Cuban embassy, where Oswald took a scrapbook of newspaper clippings and other documents to demonstrate his support for Castro's revolution in hopes of winning a visa — were among evidence considered by three major federal investigations of the Kennedy assassination in the 1960s and '70s. All ultimately rejected (though sometimes only after fierce internal debate) the idea of any causal link between Castro and the crime. But Latell's book makes some new revelations and adds detail to older ones in making the argument that Castro played at least an indirect role in the assassination. Among them: • The disclosure by Florentino Aspillaga, the most valuable defector ever to flee Cuba's DGI intelligence service, that the DGI had asked him to drop radio surveillance of the CIA hours before the assassination to focus on signals from Texas. Aspillaga told his CIA debriefers about the change in surveillance when he defected in 1987, but that information remained secret until he repeated the story to Latell in interviews for the book. • The report of a deeply embedded FBI spy who worked as top-level international courier for the Communist Party USA that Castro, during a meeting five months after the assassination, admitted that Oswald had threatened Kennedy's life during his visit to the Cuban embassy in Mexico. The spy, Jack Childs, who was awarded a posthumous Presidential Medal of Freedom for his quarter-century of spying against Moscow and Havana, reported to the FBI that Castro told him Oswald "stormed into the embassy, demanded the visa, and when it was refused to him headed out saying, "I'm going to kill Kennedy for this!" • The CIA's now-declassified report of its 1964 debriefing of another DGI defector, Vladimir Rodriguez Ladera. At the time, Castro was claiming that Oswald's visit to the Cuban embassy in Mexico had been a minor matter that didn't come to the attention of senior officials in Havana. "We never in our life heard of him," Castro said in a speech strongly denying that the Cuban government knew anything about Oswald beyond what was in the newspapers. But Rodriguez Ladera, the defector, told the CIA that Castro was surely lying, because the news of Oswald's arrest set DGI headquarters instantly abuzz. "It caused much comment concerning the fact that Oswald had been in the Cuban embassy," he said. And because the embassy in Mexico City was a major staging ground for Cuban espionage against the United States as well as the rest of Latin America, Rodriguez Ladera added, even the most routine matters there were regularly reported directly to Castro. • CIA wiretaps and microphones honeycombing the Cuban embassy in Mexico City captured conversations between DGI officers that showed a surprisingly detailed knowledge of Oswald's background in the first hours after the assassination, when relatively little of it had been reported in the press. At the center of the chatter was Luisa Calderon, a pretty, English-speaking DGI officer in her early 20s who had lived in Miami with her parents throughout the 1950s. Barely four hours after the assassination, she got a phone call from a man, also apparently a DGI spy. He asked if she knew what had happened in Dallas. "Yes, of course," she answered. "I knew of it almost before Kennedy did." Her caller continued to chatter away, noting correctly that Oswald spoke Russian and had written to Castro offering to join his fighting forces in 1959. Latell believes the speed and depth of those comments show that the DGI maintained a file on Oswald and was well acquainted with him. The wiretaps also demonstrate something about the way Cuban intelligence officers regarded Kennedy. "Wonderful! What good news!" Calderon said to another caller who mentioned the assassination, before breaking into laughter at the news — untrue, as it would turn out — that Kennedy's wife and brother had also been wounded. "He was a family man, yes, but also a degenerate aggressor," Calderon added, to which her caller exclaimed, "Three shots in the face!" Replied Calderon: "Perfect!" • In what may be the most intriguing element of his book, Latell concludes that Rolando Cubela, a high-ranking Cuban official recruited by the CIA to assassinate Castro — an act the agency hoped would trigger a military rebellion — was actually a double agent, feeding every detail of U.S. plans back to Havana. Castro's knowledge that his own murder was being plotted by the highest level of the American government, Latell writes, is what led to his "conspiracy of silence" about Oswald's assassination plan. "Fidel Castro was running the most important double agent operation in the history of intelligence," Latell said. "He wanted definitive proof that Kennedy was trying to kill him. And he got it." In a brutal irony, the CIA was delivering to Cubela a poison-tipped ballpoint pen with which to kill Castro at the very moment that Oswald was shooting Kennedy. Two major pieces of evidence implicate Cubela as a double agent, Latell writes. One was a recently declassified lie-detector test administered to Cubela's best friend and frequent co-conspirator in CIA adventures, the late Coral Gables jeweler Carlos Tepedino. Tepedino, during a confrontational interrogation by CIA handlers in 1965, confessed that Cubela was still "cooperating'' with Cuban intelligence and had never tried to organize a military revolt against Castro. Tepedino's story was more than confirmed, Latell writes, by conversations with another DGI defector: Miguel Mir, a high official in Castro's personal security office from 1986 to 1992. Mir said he had read files identifying Cubela as a double agent under DGI control. Mercurial and enigmatic, Cubela was one of the military heroes of the Cuban revolution, the man who actually captured the presidential palace in Havana. But soon afterward he began talking loosely about his dissatisfaction with Castro's political direction. By 1961 he was meeting clandestinely with the CIA; by 1962 he was a trusted recruit, regarded by the CIA as its best agent inside Castro's government. But, Latell writes, Cubela's recruitment by the CIA practically dripped with question marks right from the beginning. He seemed to have unlimited time and money to travel, meeting with CIA officers on four different continents. He refused to take a lie-detector test — a standard procedure for new recruits — or report any significant information about what was going on inside Castro's government. Instead, he constantly proposed "violent action," as one of his CIA handlers noted in a report, including the assassination of Castro. That did not exactly clash with the CIA's own plans. By early 1963, the agency was under serious pressure from the Kennedy administration to "come up with some ideas to kill Castro," as one CIA official would later testify in a congressional hearing. In October, the agency began circulating a document to the top national security officials in Washington stamped TOP SECRET-SENSITIVE with the title A Contingency Plan for a Coup in Cuba. It said Cubela and his military co-conspirators would "neutralize" Castro and "the top echelon of the Cuban leadership," then proclaim a new pro-American government that would — if necessary — ask for U.S. military assistance to put down any resistance. "Nothing in the plan allowed for Fidel's capture alive," Latell writes. When Cubela heard of the plan and his role in it, he was enthusiastic. But he insisted on a meeting with Robert Kennedy, the president's brother and point-man on Cuba, for assurances that the plan had presidential blessing. Desmond FitzGerald, a top CIA official and close friend of Robert Kennedy, flew to Paris to meet Cubela and reassure him. The CIA also got President Kennedy to insert a chunk of extraordinarily militant rhetoric — a virtual endorsement of a military coup — into a speech on Cuba delivered in Miami Beach just four days before the president's death. The CIA called off its plan for the Cuban coup after Kennedy's assassination, and new President Lyndon Johnson rapidly de-escalated the covert U.S. war against Castro — though Cubela, for another two years, continued pressing both the CIA and militant Cuban exile groups in Miami for help in killing Castro. Most of the CIA officials who oversaw Cubela's involvement with their agency insisted until they died that he had genuinely turned against Castro. Cubela was arrested in Havana in 1966 and tried for plotting to murder Castro. But during his trial, prosecutors never mentioned the CIA or the poison-tipped pen, accusing him instead of collaborating with Miami exiles. He was convicted and sentenced to death — but the sentence was commuted to a prison term at Castro's request. He served 12 years as the prison's doctor, living in comfortable quarters, and was often seen outside, driving the streets. Nearly 80, Cubela reportedly divides his time between Spain and South Florida. Attempts by the Miami Herald to reach him through family members were unsuccessful. <END QUOTE> Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... 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Good Day.... FYI.... You can read excerpts and search into McKNIGHT's book, "Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why," here.... http://www.amazon.co...d/dp/0700613900 Gerald McKnight is working on a new book about the Kennedy assassination he said will highlight evidence drawn from recently obtained documents. He said its scope will be more expansive than his "Breach of Trust," dealing with many aspects of the case, including what he said is documented proof that the government used threats of deportation to get Marina Oswald to cooperate with its investigation, as well as evidence Oswald's defection to the Soviet Union may have been part of an Office of Naval Intelligence program to insert sleeper agents.... http://politicalassa...ing-third-book/ Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.frederick...?StoryID=132961 (QUOTE) Local Author Digs for Truth Former Hood professor uses information act to unearth government documents Originally published March 11, 2012 By Brian Englar News-Post Staff Photo by Graham Cullen Former Hood College professor Gerald McKnight is working on a book. When local author and former Hood College professor Gerald McKnight researched his first book in the 1980s, he sought government documents related to COINTELPRO, a secret FBI program aimed at surveilling, infiltrating and disrupting domestic political organizations. He filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the documents, but according to McKnight, the government was less than forthcoming with the information about the program, eventually deemed illegal. "I got a letter back from the Justice Department saying 'who the hell are you and what the hell do you think you're doing here?'" McKnight said. "It was like 'what spaceship did you come to this country in that you expect to get this information?'" But McKnight wasn't going away, and after spending thousands of dollars on a lawyer, he got a hearing on his request. The Friday before the hearing was to take place, the Justice Department informed McKnight that it no longer opposed the release of the documents. "They pushed me to see how serious I was about this," McKnight said. The result of his efforts was his book, "The Last Crusade: Martin Luther King Jr., the FBI and the Poor People's Campaign," which details FBI attempts to destroy King and derail the Poor People's Campaign, a 1968 march on Washington by thousands of impoverished Americans that King didn't live to see. McKnight ultimately prevailed in his battle for transparency, and he said the money he was forced to spend on a lawyer limited the scope of his research. "I got a book out of it," McKnight said. "But it could have been a lot better. For his second book, "Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why," McKnight relied almost entirely on documents obtained through the efforts of the late Frederickauthor Harold Weisberg. Weisberg's legendary struggles with the government over the release of information related to the assassination of John F. Kennedy included several lawsuits and pried loose thousands of documents from resistant federal agencies. "He was at this from the day after Dallas until he died," McKnight said. "When you look at what he was able to get out of the Freedom of Information Act, it's just absolutely remarkable. And not only did he use the act to get documents, he also used his lawyer and his ability to force the FBI to bring forward certain members of the agency and they were under oath where he could question them." Weisberg died in 2002. In 2005, The Frederick News-Post filed a FOIA request and learned the FBI kept a file on Weisberg. The FBI believed Weisberg was a communist, and a number of internal memos chronicle the government's effort to block Weisberg's access to information regarding the assassinations of JFK and Martin Luther King Jr. McKnight said he is still using the documents obtained by Weisberg, along with many recently released documents in the National Archives assassination records collection, for a planned new book about the Kennedy assassination. McKnight said other documents related to the assassination are still being withheld, including what he said are as many as 2.4 million pages on Lee Harvey Oswald from the Office of Naval Intelligence. Other withheld documents include nearly 300 pages dealing with George Joannides, a CIA case officer McKnight and other researchers believe is key to demonstrating that Oswald was an asset of U.S. intelligence. Former Washington Post reporter Jefferson Morley has been fighting to have the documents made public since 2001, but the CIA has successfully argued that their release would cause "extremely grave damage" to national security. The 1992 JFK Records Act requires agencies to release all documents relevant to the assassination by 2017, but McKnight said he is skeptical that all the information, including the Joannides documents, will ever see the light of day. "There may not be any files left," he said. "Either the stuff that he will get will be so innocuous that it won't be any use to him, or the CIA will go to the government and simply try to exercise a provision that there are reasons why these files cannot be released." McKnight said the Joannides documents are only a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to the JFK assassination, and that many important documents already available to the public haven't been fully explored. "There is so much stuff that can be done," he said. "It would take a whole team of interested and capable people to go through it all." (END QUOTE) You can read excerpts and search into McKNIGHT's book, "Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why," here.... http://www.amazon.co...d/dp/0700613900 Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... 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Good Day .... FYI.... http://www.smdp.com/...-read-this.html (QUOTE) opinion and commentary Laughing Matters Hoping the CIA doesn't read this By Jack Neworth Cold War Warrior: Francis Gary Powers next to a U-2 reconnaissance plane. photo by Cold War Museum. February 10, 2012 Perhaps I'm a tad paranoid because today I'm writing about the 50th anniversary of one of the most controversial moments in the Cold War. And one that the CIA had its greasy tentacles all over. By the way, some historians postulate that we didn't so much win the Cold War against the Russians as we outspent them. Some think those were better days. Sure there was the threat of nuclear annihilation, but at least the country wasn't broke and planes weren't flying into skyscrapers. (Not to mention those unbearable Bin Laden basement tapes.) In memory of that era I wrote a satirical screenplay, "The Last Straw," about rogue KGB and CIA agents longing to re-ignite the Cold War. Instead of saving the world from communism, grumpy CIA operative Rollie Southern curses that he's reduced to having to learn Arabic from Berlitz tapes on a recorder made in China! But, dear readers, that's the end of the comedy portion of today's missive as I reflect back on May 1, 1960. Up to that point that was clearly the most ominous day in the life of 30-year-old American pilot Francis Gary Powers. The son of a Virginia coal miner and raised during the depression, he was on a CIA spy mission when he and his U-2 reconnaissance plane were shot down and captured in Russia. (At the subsequent trial Powers potentially faced the death penalty.) When the truth came out the incident embarrassed America in the eyes of the world. It also derailed President Eisenhower's highly anticipated peace summit with the Soviets scheduled for only two weeks later. The ultra-sleek U-2 was basically a glider equipped with a jet engine. Precarious to fly, it could, however, cruise above 70,000 feet, out of range of Soviet artillery. Or so we thought. Powers, who had flown numerous and dangerous spy missions for years, was now a powerless pawn in a Moscow show trial. He was sentenced to 10 years, three in a cold, foreboding prison and seven to be in a work camp. But, after 21 months in a Russian prison, we finally come to what took place 50 years ago, today. On a foggy pre-dawn at the Glienicke Bridge in Berlin, and in a scene right out of a spy movie, Gary Powers was exchanged for Soviet spy Rudolf Abel. But, while Abel was greeted in Russia as a returning hero, Powers was not. Powers was subjected to weeks of intense CIA debriefing and public criticism. (And even death threats.) The left criticized him for his part in the war machine and the right for his not having killed himself and destroyed the U-2 when faced with capture. (Ignoring that those were never his orders.) There were much publicized Senate hearings that, if they went poorly for Powers, there was talk that he might be charged with treason. But after his Senate testimony, Powers received a standing ovation and a commendation that he had "performed well under dangerous circumstances." (A slight understatement considering Powers had been shot down from 70,000 feet.) As it happens, in my Dec. 16, 2011 column ("Drone, drone on the range") I mentioned Powers and the U-2 incident. Gleaned from Internet sites, I noted that Powers had suspected CIA sabotage of his flight to destroy the upcoming summit with the Russians. My column posted at 5 p.m. and seemingly at 5:05 I got an e-mail emphatically denying that Powers believed the sabotage scenario. As perhaps only I can, I assumed the CIA was reading my columns! When I finally stopped hyperventilating, I noticed the e-mail was from Gary Powers Jr. So, to set the record straight on the so-called sabotage, I stand corrected. (Actually, I'm sitting.) Powers Jr. did share something about his father and Lee Harvey Oswald, whose military training included radar and had been stationed at a U-2 base. Powers Sr. thought it likely that Oswald divulged to the Soviets the U-2's cruising altitude. (Which begs the eternal question, how did Oswald get back into the U.S., but don't get me started.) Francis Gary Powers was a Cold War warrior mistreated by his government. But there is some justice. This past December, the Air Force announced that in 2012 it will posthumously award Powers the prestigious Silver Star. "It is vindication of my father 50 years afterwards,' Powers Jr. said. "Dad is one of our American heroes." I second the motion. Gary Powers Jr. founded The Cold War Museum to honor veterans and preserve Cold War history. To learn more go to www.coldwar.org. Jack can be reached at Jnsmdp@aol.com. (END QUOTE) Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

Good Day.... FYI, there will be a presentation and open forum about the assassination on 2-7-12 at the Dixie State College in St. George, UT.... http://www.stgeorgeu...ng-dixie-forum/ <QUOTE> Overview of JFK assassination at upcoming Dixie Forum Written by St. George News on February 1, 2012 in Community News, Life - No comments ST. GEORGE – Dixie State College's noontime "Dixie Forum: A Window on the World" will feature a historical overview of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on Feb. 7. The forum is free as always and will be presented by retired history teacher Steve Armstrong in the Dunford Auditorium of the Browning Resource Center on the DSC campus. Armstrong's presentation will include a description of the facts surrounding the assassination, the subsequent investigation leading to the Warren Commission report released in 1964, along with the 1978 report of the House Select Committee. Armstrong delivered his first presentation on this subject in the early 1970s, and he continues to update and revise his knowledge and materials. He has spoken at national conventions in Chicago, Phoenix, Orlando and Los Angeles, along with several state and local teacher conventions, workshops, and high school classrooms. "As our nation approaches the 50th anniversary of JFK's death," Armstrong said, "I believe that it's important to examine the facts and the controversies surrounding this tragic American event. Whether you were alive at the time or are now seeking knowledge of the JFK assassination, you are sure to find this a stimulating, interesting presentation." Armstrong taught AP American History and AP American Government during his 35-year teaching career. He was also an AP reader and continues to do consulting work for The College Board. For further information on DSC's Dixie Forum series, please contact DSC Forum advisor Professor Marius van der Merwe at 435-652-7924 or at marius@dixie.edu. <END QUOTE> Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

.... Good Day Len .... WAHLBERG had, actually, originally reserved a seat on United Airlines flight # 93 on 9-11, not American Airlines flight # 11. Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

Hi Pat.... OTTOMH, it also reminded me about the invented "slow" museum janitor character that thief EDWARD NORTON portrayed in the film "The Score" (2001), with ROBERT De NIRO Jr. Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

Hello Don, Thanks for the information. In January, 1983, shortly after I received copies of the autopsy photographs, Pat Valentino and I went to Dallas where we showed the pictures to as many of the Dallas doctors and nurses that could be located. The last doctor we saw, en route back to the airport, was Dr. Giesecke. None of the doctors had seen the photos before, and in the Epilogue to the 1988 (Carrol and Graf) edition of BEST EVIDENCE, I described their reaction. I just spoke with Pat, and he is checking his records, because--as he just reminded me--we made a tape of our impressions immediately afterwards. The two of us may prepare a small write-up, and if we do, I'll post it here. DSL 1/3/12 9:50 PM PST Los Angeles, CA .... Very interesting, to be sure, David .... Will definitely look forward to reading it when you get a chance to write it. Hopefully the write-up will be about all of the Parkland doctors that you and Mr. Valentino were able to speak with, and details not (yet) provided in the BE epilogue, and not limited to only Dr. Giesecke. Have you read the article by Dr. Donald W. Miller Jr., "What Kerouac, Kennedy, Lincoln, and Practicing Medicine Have Taught Me About Liberty" (its link is provided within the "Men of Courage" homepages website, page 3).... Dr. Miller worked with Dr. Perry in later years..... A quick question.... in your times in Dallas, did you ever obtain access to the west-facing roof line of the Dal-Tex?.... say.... around 40' north of its southwest corner, in vertical alignment above the middle column of the DT paired windows? :{ )-] Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

Barry.... Appreciate that, very much. Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.statesman...ng-2074907.html <QUOTE> Doctor who treated JFK in ER after shooting dies DALLAS— An anesthesiologist who attached a heart monitor to President John F. Kennedy in a Dallas hospital's emergency room and interviewed wounded Texas Gov. John Connally for surgery has died. Dr. Adolph H. "Buddy" Giesecke Jr. was 79. The doctor's son, Martin Giesecke (GEEZ'-eh-kee), says his father died Dec. 24 at his home in the Dallas suburb of Irving. The elder Giesecke was working at Parkland Hospital on Nov. 22, 1963, when Kennedy was assassinated and Connally was struck while riding in the same vehicle. The son says Dr. Giesecke recalled that the president didn't flinch while he inserted heart probes into Kennedy's skin. Giesecke spent most of his career at Parkland's neighboring University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center. He was chairman of the anesthesiology department from 1981 to 1992. <END QUOTE> .... brief details from my personal list of 7,221 persons/suspects that were related/possibly-related to events before/during/after the assassination.... .... On 11-22-63 ADOLPH HARTUNG "Buddy" GIESECKE JR., the Parkland Assistant Chief of Anesthesia, helped JENKINS "establish ventilation," then after GIESECKE attached EKG monitoring equipment to JFK (about 5-minutes), he was then called to trauma room #2 to administer anesthesia to CONNALLY, and, he was also involved in CONNALLY's first, second and third surgeries; .... warrenatti-testified he saw on JFK "a very large cranial wound with loss of brain substance and it seemed that most of the bleeding was coming from the cranial wound" and "It seemed that from the vertex to the left ear and from the browline to the occiput on the left-hand side of the head the cranium was entirely missing."; .... warrenatti-testified he did not see JFK's neck front wound; .... warrenatti-testified that discussions about the JFK and CONNALLY procedures did take place among the Parkland staff, and, for a man from the "American Medical Association, as a historian. We discussed it with Dr. Mike Bush, who then reported it in the Anesthesiology Newsletter, which is a publication of the American Society of Anesthesiologists," and he met with a Secret Service Agent whose name he did not recall; .... He became a volunteer U.S. Army veteran sometime after graduating medical school in 1957 (doctor); (some references for him) "The JFK Medical Reference" "Three Patients at Parkland Hospital" (January 1964) 06H072 WCR66 "Rush to Judgment" (book) Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

Good Day, + , Good Year.... FYI.... http://www.guardian....over-secret-fbi I am surprised that Tony did not mention anything about Hoover and his FBI-regime's "most thorough investigation in history" of the JFK assassination. (QUOTE) The secret life of J Edgar Hoover For half a century, the FBI director waged war on homosexuals, black people and communists. Now, a controversial film by Clint Eastwood is set to reveal some of the explosive truth about him. Here, his biographer Anthony Summers tells all Anthony Summers The Observer, Saturday 31 December 2011 Article history PHOTO caption: Long arm of the law: J Edgar Hoover in 1936. Photograph: New York Daily News Archive/Getty Images J Edgar Hoover was a phenomenon. The first Director of the FBI, he remained in office for 48 years, from his appointment after the First World War to his death in 1972, achieving fame and extraordinary power. For public consumption when he died, President Richard Nixon eulogised him as: "One of the giants… a national symbol of courage, patriotism and granite-like honesty and integrity." He ordered flags to fly at half-mast and that Hoover's body lie in state in the Capitol. In private, on hearing that he had died, Nixon had responded merely: "Jesus Christ! That old cocksucker!" Months earlier, closeted with key advisers, he had held forth on the need to persuade the elderly Hoover to resign. "We have on our hands here a man who will pull down the temple with him, including me." Nixon, soon to be disgraced and forced to resign, was of course himself no paragon. Most presidents before him, though, had had cause to fear Hoover or been troubled by what his FBI had become. Harry S Truman wrote during his presidency: "We want no Gestapo or secret police. FBI is tending in that direction. They are dabbling in sex- life scandals and plain blackmail… Edgar Hoover would give his right eye to take over, and all congressmen and senators are afraid of him." Hoover himself, meanwhile, had a personal secret that – in his era – could have destroyed him if revealed. Clint Eastwood referred to it this year before the launch of his movie, when he assured the J Edgar Hoover Foundation that J Edgar would not "portray an open homosexual relationship" between Hoover and his long-time male companion, Clyde Tolson. Eastwood stretched the truth. Though there is just one passionate kiss between Leonardo DiCaprio and Armie Hammer, the two actors portraying them in the movie, the relationship with Tolson is a central theme. In real life, all Washington knew was that the pair dined daily together, vacationed together, did everything but move in together, and the whispers flew. When a magazine article in the 1930s referred to Hoover's "mincing" gait, and a diplomat commented on his "conspicuous perfume", Hoover struck back. He gathered derogatory information on the offending journalist, and asserted – falsely – that he did not use perfume. Real information on the Hoover-Tolson relationship surfaced only long after both men were dead, during research for my book. A surprising find was the account by Luisa Stuart, once a celebrated model, tracked down because she featured in a droll photograph taken with Hoover and Tolson one New Year's Eve in the late 1930s at the Stork Club – the place to be seen in New York at the time. In the photo, Hoover is shown holding his hands up as Stuart, armed with a toy shotgun, "threatens" him. Later that night, in the dark of a limousine when they left the club, she remembered: "I noticed they were holding hands all the way, just sitting there talking and holding hands with each other… I was so young and those were different times. But I'd never seen two men holding hands." Joseph Shimon, a former Washington police inspector, recalled a taxi driver reporting the pair had been "kissing and ass-grabbing" during a cab journey. Harry Hay, founder of America's first gay rights group, remembered that on vacation in California, in "a circle in which they didn't have people who weren't gay… They were nodded together as lovers." The Eastwood movie includes a bizarre scene that depicts Hoover, after his mother's death, donning one of her dresses. It is a nod towards allegations I first reported, that he on occasion cross-dressed. I had information from three sources, two men who said an "easily recognisable" photograph of Hoover in an evening gown circulated in the gay community in 1948, and an account by a millionaire's former wife of secret sex parties that she claimed to have witnessed in the late 50s. Hoover, the woman said, had been "dressed like an old flapper, like you see on old tintypes". Bill Clinton, who as president in 1993 was mulling over who to appoint as FBI Director, thought the cross-dressing reports were hilarious. "It's going to be hard," he grinned during a speech at a press function, "to fill J Edgar Hoover's… pumps." That I published such allegations at all, however, to this day draws roars of fury from old Hoover loyalists. Other accounts of the Director's alleged sexual activity, if true, would certainly have destroyed him had they become public. A former Bureau inspector and trusted associate named Jimmy Corcoran said years later that Hoover, youthful at the time, had once asked him to deal with a serious "problem". He had been arrested on sex charges involving a young man during a trip to New Orleans. Corcoran, who had powerful contacts in the state, said he intervened to hush the matter up. There is, too, a claim that as late as 1969, when Hoover was in his early 70s, he dallied with teenage boys during his habitual summer break in California. An element of corroboration came from Don Smith, an officer on the Los Angeles police vice squad, who told me of interviews he conducted with youngsters during a pedophile investigation. "The kids," Smith said, "brought up several famous names, including those of Hoover and his sidekick". For me, the most significant, credible information on Hoover's sexuality came with the discovery that Hoover for a while consulted Marshall de G Ruffin, a Washington psychiatrist who became president of the Washington Psychiatric Society. De Ruffin's widow Monteen recalled learning from her husband that his distinguished patient was "definitely troubled by homosexuality". After several sessions, however, "Hoover got very paranoid about anyone finding out he was a homosexual, and got scared." As if to compensate, Hoover lashed out at and sought to expose other homosexuals. For years he had his agents infiltrate and monitor homosexual-rights groups, while he sounded off publicly about "sex deviates in government service". My conclusion after five years' research was that while Hoover may have spent much of his life repressing his private urges while building an image of himself as the acme of sexual purity, he did sometimes lapse – risking catastrophe every time. Having studied the information I assembled, two noted specialists in psychiatry and psychology said they believed Hoover's sexual torment was very pertinent to his use and abuse of power as America's top law- enforcement officer. Dr John Money, professor of medical psychology at Johns Hopkins University, thought Hoover "needed constantly to destroy other people in order to maintain himself. He managed to live with his conflict by making others pay the price." Dr Harold Lief, professor emeritus of psychiatry at the University of Pennsylvania, concluded that Hoover suffered from "a personality disorder, a narcissistic disorder with mixed obsessive features… paranoid elements, undue suspiciousness and some sadism. A combination of narcissism and paranoia produces what is known as an authoritarian personality. Hoover would have made a perfect high-level Nazi." The eight decades of Hoover's life tell their own story. As early as his teen years, his mind was closing on issues that were to dominate his era. In the school debating society, he argued against women getting the vote and against abolition of the death penalty. He could never bear to come second in anything. When his father began to suffer from mental illness, a niece told me, Hoover "couldn't tolerate the fact. He never could tolerate anything that was imperfect." Another relative said: "I sometimes have thought that he really had a fear of becoming too personally involved with people." William Sullivan, a close FBI associate, thought his boss "didn't have affection for one single solitary human being". Hoover joined the Bureau – at that time just the Bureau of Investigation (the word "Federal" was only added in the 1930s) – as America's first great Communist scare was getting under way, and handpicked as his assistant a man named George Ruch. One of two key associates to name their own sons J Edgar, Ruch expressed astonishment that left-wingers should even "be allowed to speak and write as they like". Hoover and Ruch favoured deporting people merely for being members of radical organisations, and used the Bureau to spy on lawyers representing those arrested in the infamous Red Raids of 1920. One of them, on whom he was to keep tabs for half a century and deem "the most dangerous man in the United States", was future Supreme Court justice Felix Frankfurter. Hoover never joined a political party and claimed he was "not political". In fact, he admitted privately, he was a staunch, lifelong supporter of the Republican party. He secretly aspired to be president and considered running against Franklin D Roosevelt, whom he thought suspiciously left-wing. Hoover publicly expressed support for Senator Joe McCarthy shortly before McCarthy claimed Truman's State Department was harbouring 200 members of the Communist party. His agents slipped file material to the senator for use in his infamous inquisition, while publicly denying doing so. The favourable publicity Hoover enjoyed was partially deserved. He cleaned up a Bureau that had been notorious for corruption and inefficiency, replacing it with an agent corps that became a byword for integrity. One veteran defined the ideal new recruit as a man who had to represent "the great middle class", who "will always eat well and dress well, but will never get that sleek Packard or sumptuous house. He belongs to the Bureau body and soul". Hoover brought modernity and co-ordination at a time of disorganisation. He built the first federal fingerprint bank, and his Identification Division would eventually offer instant access to the prints of 159 million people. His Crime Laboratory became the most advanced in the world. He created the FBI National Academy, a sort of West Point for the future elite of law enforcement. While all this was positive, Hoover's Division 8, euphemistically entitled Crime Records and Communications, had a priority mission. Crime Records pumped out propaganda that fostered not only the image of the FBI as an organisation that spoke for what was right and just, but of the Director himself as a champion of justice fighting "moral deterioration" and "anarchist elements". Hoover used the department to preach the notion that the political left was responsible for all manner of perceived evils, from changing sexual standards to delinquency. Crime Records portrayed Hoover as the dauntless scourge of serious crime. In the movie J Edgar, long sequences are devoted to his supposed role in tracking down the murderer of the aviator Charles Lindbergh's baby son. In real life, while Hoover postured as the Sherlock who led the probe, the case was in fact broken thanks to work done by another federal agency. Similar phoney self-promotion featured in the fight against the bandits of the 30s, Bonnie and Clyde, Machine Gun Kelly, John Dillinger and Alvin Karpis. Hoover hogged the limelight when the thugs were killed or captured and was jealous and vindictive when it fell instead on one of his proteges. Late in the Eastwood movie, his companion, Clyde Tolson, peruses a memoir Hoover has just completed about his life and career. Then, reproachfully, he remarks that the account is a pack of lies. There was no real-life memoir, but the line is perceptive. Issues of fact versus fabrication and distortion, truth versus outright lie or self- delusion, dominate Hoover's story. Hoover's public position on race, Southerner that he was, was that of the paternalistic white nativist. Less openly, he was racially prejudiced. He shrugged off the miseries of black Americans, preferring to claim they were outside his jurisdiction. "I'm not going to send the FBI in," a Justice Department official recalled him saying testily, "every time some n woman says she's been raped." FBI agents paid more attention to investigating black militants than pursuing the Ku Klux Klan. In the 60s, Hoover went to extreme lengths to establish that Martin Luther King and his movement were under Communist control. When surveillance established only that King was having sex with women other than his wife, FBI aides worked to "neutralise" him by slipping prurient information to the press. When the civil rights leader was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, Hoover was enraged. When thousands mourned King's assassination, Hoover went to the races. He later tried to prevent King's birthday being declared a national holiday. All this took place against a personal background of which few are today aware – a rumour that Hoover himself had black ancestry. Early photographs do show him looking somewhat negroid, with noticeably wiry hair. Gossip along those lines was rife in Washington and – true or not – Hoover must have been aware of it. Did anxiety on that front shape the way he behaved towards blacks – just as he lashed out at homosexuals while struggling with his own homosexuality? Research into the sex angle, meanwhile, may explain why – at the very time in US history that organised crime was on the rise and could have been effectively countered – Hoover failed to act. The man who had found fame for hunting down the bank robbers and bandits of the 30s let the Mafia flourish. It seemed at first, before the Second World War, that Hoover would clamp down on the mob. Then, abruptly, he turned off the pressure. In the 50s, he actively obstructed the Kefauver Committee, which concluded there was indeed "a nationwide crime syndicate known as the Mafia". Not so, said Hoover. When a 1958 report by his own agents also said the Mafia was real, he dismissed it as "baloney". The FBI would take vigorous action only very belatedly, in the 1960s, under pressure from Attorney General Robert Kennedy. Former officials I interviewed, including three former attorney generals and several former assistant directors of the FBI, were at a loss to explain why Hoover refused to tackle the threat of organised crime. "Hoover's attitude," said Neil Welch, a senior former agent who eventually distinguished himself fighting the Mafia, "was so contrary to reality as to be a reason for great speculation." Hoover himself, it is now clear, had contacts with organised criminals or their associates in circumstances that made it possible – likely even – that they learned of his sexual proclivities. More than one top mobster claimed the outfit had a hold on Hoover. Meyer Lansky, the syndicate's co-founder, was said to have "pictures of Hoover in some kind of gay situation" and an associate quoted Lansky as claiming, "I fixed that sonofabitch." Carmine Lombardozzi, who was known as "the Italian Meyer Lansky", said: "J Edgar Hoover was in our pocket." Blackmail was the tactic that worked for Hoover, too, in his dealings with politicians. The title of my biography of him, Official and Confidential, derives from the name of a file group that was held in locked cabinets in Hoover's office. By an official count after his death, the Director held 883 files on senators and 722 on congressmen. Many documents were shredded after Hoover's death, but those that survive speak for themselves. An example is this 1959 report: Dear Mr Hoover, You may be interested in the following information… (NAME WITHHELD) she had spent the afternoon of 3 June 1959, with Senator (NAME WITHHELD) in his private office. She also said she had sexual intercourse with the senator during the afternoon "on the couch in the senator's office…" Sincerely yours, James H Gale, Special Agent in Charge Such reports, I learned, were used to bend politicians to Hoover's will. He might need their co-operation to procure funds, to gain political muscle, or to avert investigation of operations he preferred kept hidden. An aide to Senator Edward Long, the Democrat from Missouri, was to swear an affidavit describing what occurred when Long was planning hearings on the FBI – with a special focus on electronic eavesdropping. A senior Hoover aide came to call, and the conversation went as follows: "Senator, I think you ought to read this file that we have on you. You know we would never use it, because you're a friend of ours… We just thought you ought to know the type of stuff that might get around and might be harmful to you… They handed him the folder… Long read it for a few minutes. they went on their way. The next thing I knew we had orders to skip over the FBI inquiries." Hoover snooped not just on politicians but on officials high and low, on Supreme Court justices – at least 12 of them – even on presidents. He built files on writers, actors, on citizens across the spectrum who caught his malignant eye. Many feared what the Director might have found – whether he had compromising information on them or not. In life, Hoover denied time and again that there were such "secret dossiers". Acting Attorney General Laurence Silberman, the first person to peruse the secret files after Hoover's death in 1972, learned otherwise. "J Edgar Hoover," he told me, "was like a sewer that collected dirt. I now believe he was the worst public servant in our history." The Director more than got away with his excesses. He was showered with honours. Even today, in spite of the ugly truths that have surfaced since his death – an official probe found that on top of everything he had also been personally corrupt – the sign on the façade of FBI headquarters in Washington proclaims, in gold lettering, that it is the "J EDGAR HOOVER BUILDING". "American society", mused Dr Lief, the psychiatrist who thinks the facts indicate Hoover would have made a perfect high-level Nazi, "has a strangely polarised attitude towards its heroes. On the one hand people love to find the idol has clay feet, to find the flaw in the famous man. On the other, they are reluctant to take the hero off his pedestal. This is a curious contradiction in our society, and sometimes a dangerous one." Anthony Summers is the author of eight non-fiction books; the most recent is The Eleventh Day, on 9/11. A new edition of Official and Confidential: The Secret Life of J Edgar Hoover, is published this month (Ebury, £8.99). The movie J Edgar is out on 20 January Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... 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Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.salisbury...ed-JFKw-pix-qcd (QUOTE) Pallbearer for Kennedy to speak in Salisbury PHOTO James Felder, right, carries the casket of John F. Kennedy. SALISBURY — When he thinks back to the night of Nov. 22, 1963, James L. Felder sees Jacqueline Kennedy getting off Air Force One at Andrews Air Force Base still wearing the blood-stained dress from her husband's assassination in Dallas. Early the next morning, back at the White House, Felder watches the widow cutting a piece of her husband's hair as a keepsake before the casket's lid is closed again. Or Felder is standing over the slain president's gravesite, taking the folded American flag, checking it to make sure no red is showing and solemnly passing it on. These images have stayed with Felder, an Army sergeant who headed the casket team (pallbearers) for President John F. Kennedy. Felder stood close by as the president's body, embalmed and restored by a Washington mortician after an autopsy, was moved from a table at Bethesda Naval Hospital into a mahogany casket. He guarded the casket and carried it with seven other men into the White House, up and down the Capitol steps, and in and out of St. Matthew's Cathedral. He marched beside the caisson bearing the casket to Arlington National Cemetery, where his team took Kennedy to his grave. PHOTO James Felder checks the flag for red at the funeral for John F. Kennedy. PHOTO (JAMES LEROY FELDER sometime after his service, wearing a business suit) Wherever he goes, even 48 years after the assassination, Felder still answers questions about his duties during those four dark days in November 1963, from JFK's killing in the Dallas motorcade to his burial three days later in Arlington. "I never boasted about it (but) I kept getting these questions of, 'How were you selected?' " says Felder, now 72 and living in Columbia, S.C. After his two years in the Army, Felder became an attorney and a strong figure in civil rights and voter education activities, forging friendships with men such as Vernon Jordan and the Rev. Jesse Jackson. He settled in Columbia, S.C., served briefly as a state legislator and retired several years ago as chairman of the Department of Business and Economics at Allen University. Today, Felder has come full circle and is president and chief executive officer of the S.C. Voter Education Project. He will be the speaker at Friday's Salisbury-Rowan NAACP Harvest Banquet, where the focus of his talk will be four historical leaders of the civil rights movement. His role as a pallbearer for President Kennedy is a lesson in how circumstances — so random at the time — conspire to put a person in an unexpected spot, such as on the lead left handle of a slain president's casket. A native of Sumter, S.C., Felder attended Clark College in Atlanta where he was the football team's quarterback and president of the Student Government Association. He participated in civil rights protests and sit-ins, spending time in Atlanta jails and courtrooms as a result. Graduating from Clark in 1961, Felder hoped to enter Officers Training School for the Air Force in March 1962 — the first available opening — but the Army drafted him before that could happen. He went "kicking and screaming" — his words — to basic training at Fort Jackson, S.C., and eventually was one of 10 men from the base chosen to try out for the Army Honor Guard stationed at Fort Myer, Va., near Washington. He survived a tough, two-week elimination process and was one of only two from Fort Jackson to make the Honor Guard, part of Company E of the Third Infantry. Nicknamed the Old Guard, because it is the oldest military unit on active duty in the country, the company is charged with defending the nation's capital in case of attack. All the men are infantry trained and combat ready. Otherwise, they conduct ceremonial duties in and around Washington, including burials at Arlington National Cemetery and the guarding of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Felder served with the second platoon — casket bearers for funeral services. Over 19 months, he participated in more than 1,000 funerals at Arlington. During Kennedy's inaugural parade in 1961, the new president noticed there were no black soldiers in the Army Honor Guard, and he sent a verbal order that men of color should be added to the unit. When Felder joined the Honor Guard in 1962, he was only the 10th African American to be part of the company, which had some 200 soldiers. As a college student, Felder had campaigned for Kennedy's election. As a soldier, he first stood near him as part of the Honor Guard greeting a foreign dignitary at Washington's National Airport and later on the White House's South Lawn. As he rose in seniority, Felder sometimes served as "presidential orderly," whose main duties involved running short errands for Kennedy or holding his umbrella in the rain. Felder says he and the president sometimes indulged in small talk while they waited for the next thing to happen. Felder describes himself as a "short-timer" by Nov. 22, 1963, the day President Kennedy was killed. He had only 57 days left in the Army, and most of those days he planned to eat up with leave. Interestingly, about a month before the assassination, Felder belonged to a specially assembled honor guard — representing each branch of the military — that was preparing for the expected death of former President Herbert Hoover. But the unit quit its rehearsals when Hoover's health improved, never guessing a similar honor guard would be needed soon for Kennedy. Two weeks before the assassination, the senior ranking soldier of the casket-bearing platoon left the company, making young Felder the ranking sergeant. Military protocol called on the Army to head the special honor guard for Kennedy, and because Felder had just become the ranking sergeant, it was up to him to lead the casket team. "If Kennedy had been assassinated two weeks earlier, I would not have been in that position," Felder says. Felder was taking a leave day Nov. 22, 1963, and went to a job interview at the Department of Interior. He and his wife, working at the Federal Power Commission, then planned to leave for Thanksgiving vacation in Sumter. The assassination canceled Felder's leave. His casket team met Air Force One at Andrews Air Force Base, then followed the body to Bethesda Naval Hospital, where the autopsy was performed. Felder and his men provided security at the hospital morgue, where he had to bodily throw out two intrusive photographers and keep reporters at bay. A new casket arrived with the funeral home attendants who embalmed the body and put Kennedy back together again. Felder and his men rolled the casket down the hospital corridor into a waiting Navy ambulance about 3:45 a.m. Nov. 23, and the body arrived at the White House by 4:30 a.m. In the East Room, Jacqueline Kennedy, with Sargent Shriver and Robert F. Kennedy by her side, opened the casket to view the body of her husband and to retrieve a lock of his hair. Felder says he can swear to this day that the president's body was in the casket, despite many rumors to the contrary at the time. Felder personally stayed on watch at the East Room until 1 p.m. that Saturday, when he was relieved and able to catch a two-hour nap in the White House's theater. At first the casket team consisted of six men — two from the Army and one each from the Marines, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard. Because of the half-ton weight of the new casket, Felder saw that two more men (from the Navy and Marines) were added. Worried about navigating the 36 Capitol steps leading into the Rotunda Sunday morning, Nov. 24, the team practiced for hours on the Arlington Cemetery steps leading to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. A couple of soldiers sat on top of the dummy casket to simulate the weight of the president's mahogany version. Felder used silent commands such as nods and winks to guide his casket team, and he instructed these pallbearers to saturate their white gloves with water for better two-handed grips. On the day of the funeral, the casket team marched 3 miles next to the caisson — the same one that bore President Franklin D. Roosevelt's body in Washington 18 years earlier. A million people stood along the route between the cathedral and the cemetery. An additional 75 million watched on television. At Arlington, Felder's team called on all of its reserve strength for carrying the casket up the hill to the gravesite. At the end of Taps, Felder tugged on the flag to initiate its folding. His final check for red led to the flag's delivery to Jacqueline Kennedy, who would be buried beside the president many years later. Not long after Felder had returned from the Thanksgiving holiday, his 28-year-old company commander died unexpectedly, and Felder had to again lead a special honor guard. Spent emotionally, he made it his last funeral at Arlington. It took 30 years, but Felder transferred his memories from 1963 into a book titled, "I Buried John F. Kennedy." He says he did it for his children and grandchildren and for history's sake. By now, he guesses that he has given hundreds of talks to civic clubs, churches and veterans groups about those dark days. Not too long ago, Arlington National Cemetery remodeled its visitors center. It includes a huge mural showing Felder carrying JFK's casket. "That really touched me," he says, "and my grandchildren were there to see it." Contact Mark Wineka at 704-797-4263, or mwineka@salisburypost.com. Felder will have copies of his book available for sale at the NAACP Harvest Banquet Friday night at the Holiday Inn. (END QUOTE) Best Regards in Research, Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... 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Good Day.... FYI.... From the Mineola, TX "Mineola Monitor" news.com (my notes follow the article).... http://www.news-jour...eec1ae093a.html (QUOTE) Breakfast with JACK RUBY CURRENT PHOTO of Jerry Coley, captioned, "With a copy of The Warren Report and other related memorabilia spread before him, Jerry Coley, remembers having breakfast with Jack Ruby[sp] and other events on Nov. 22, 1963." Related Content "People say there were three shots," he said, "but you couldn't tell it by me." All he remembers is the noise and "people running everywhere." Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:14 pm By GARY EDWARDS The Monitor Staff | 0 comments There was a time in the newspaper business that being a journalist and having a college degree weren't necessarily seen as being compatible. In fact, for most in the business, the school of "hard knocks" was valued well beyond a degree from Yale, Harvard or any other school. It didn't seem to matter what department one worked in. Journalism was a disease to be coveted by writers, photographers and advertising sales people. Simply being able to say one "worked for the paper," was enough. It gave one access to events that others only dream of hearing about. None of that was lost on a young Jerry Coley. By 1963 Coley had spent a two-year stint in the Army and had worked at the the Dallas Morning News for several years. He'd figured out that mail room pay wasn't as good as the $40 a week the advertising folks were making and he sought improvement in his life style. Along the way to "financial gain" he'd meet a large number of interesting people, perhaps none more so than a self-described former Chicago mafia enforcer by the name of Jack Ruby. It was Thursday in Dallas, Nov. 21, 1963 and Coley said the staff at the Morning News was excited about the coming visit by President John F. Kennedy. For the ownership and some of the management of the newspaper it was a huge occasion, for they were Catholic and Kennedy was the first Catholic president. Coley remembers the political temperature of the city as conservative, with some tension related to the conservative views of retired two-star Army General Edwin Walker, but there was nothing that would prepare anyone for what happened the following day. Friday morning Coley was at work when Ruby came by on what was more or less a routine trip to the paper to pay his advertising bill for the strip club he operated in Dallas. Ruby, Coley and others had breakfast together that Friday in the newspaper cafeteria and Ruby, who often stayed to make small talk, did so again Coley said. Ruby would brag about his "girls" and fish money rolled up and secured by rubberbands from his pocket. He talked about his days in Chicago and his connection to the mob and in general, Coley said, Ruby simply hung around the paper. As Coley recounts how Nov. 22 unfolded, he sits behind a kitchen counter in what has been his Wood County home since he retired in 1996. There are a number of magazine articles spread before him, including diagrams of where the parade route traveled, where Coley was standing and more. Well before the president would ride through Dallas, Coley had already arranged his sales schedule so he'd be downtown to watch the passage of the caravan and thus he was within yards of Dealey Plaza as the presidential vehicles passed by, turning right and then back to the left. Coley had noticed that Ruby was still at the paper as noon approached and he would think back later and wonder "if he loved the President so much why couldn't he walk three blocks to watch him" pass by in the motorcade. As the group of vehicles turned the School Book Depository, Coley remembers hearing a "noise." "People say there were three shots," he said, "but you couldn't tell it by me." All he remembers is the noise and "people running everywhere." He rapidly worked his way in the direction of the depository and was stopped by a "county mountie with a shotgun" who told him to "get the hell out of here." Which didn't exactly mean Coley left the area. He remembers people crying and he remembers something else. Several feet away from the street, above the well-documented grassy knoll, he found a significant amount of blood. He ran back to the newspaper, finding Ruby still in the office, on a phone and crying. It was a day or so later when Coley found an advertising photographer, Jim Hood, and ultimately he led Hood back to the scene of the blood, where he said Hood photographed it. There were personal moments he'll not likely forget. They included death threats by telephone calls to his wife saying Coley needed to "shut your mouth" or they were going to kill Coley's family. Then there is the matter of the blood that Coley asked Hood to photograph. Several days had gone by and Coley had returned to work when two men in dark suits appeared at the newspaper. They "flashed green plastic cards" that appeared to Coley as though they were FBI agents. They were interested to hear about the breakfast with Ruby and then near what appeared to be the end of the interview, Coley said he asked the men if they knew about the blood on the steps. There was some discussion between the two visitors off to the side and following that, the men confiscated the film and the only print Hood had an opportunity make and then one of the men said to the two newspaper employees, "boys this never happened if you know what I mean." The following day, Coley said, he went back to the spot where he'd seen the blood and the area was spotless, as though it had "been chemically cleaned, there was nothing there," he said."We didn't talk about this for 13 years," Coley said. For a variety of reasons it took until sometime around 1980 before Coley began to talk about the blood. By then the others familiar with the situation were no longer in any danger of potential retribution and Coley was beginning to feel comfortable with talking about it. He was interviewed for a TV program, "Unsolved Mysteries" and while the interviewers were quite interested in talking about the blood, it was not used in the finished product. To his knowledge there has never been any discussion about that blood by anyone, including those charged with investigating the assassination. He doesn't know why. Was Ruby used by someone else to kill Lee Harvey Oswald? Coley doesn't know the answer but he does have a nagging question to this day. Why didn't Ruby walk those few steps to watch the president's motorcade? If he loved the president as much as he professed, why wouldn't he want to see him in person? As for the newspaper family at the Morning News, Coley said, "It took a couple of years before the paper got over the shooting." Dallas, he said, was seen as "the city of hate," which he saw as a "stigma not deserved." Today, the 78-year-old Coley lives with his wife Bonnie and son Scott, just East of Mineola, far from the life he knew at the newspaper. He's comfortable speaking about the unspeakable and from time to time he shares his memories with civic clubs and church groups. But always there will be unanswered questions relating to that November day in 1963. His photographer friend died in the next year or two after the president's death in what Coley describes as questionable circumstances in a plane crash. He has other questions that he knows will never be answered to his satisfaction, or that of others... not in his lifetime at least. (END QUOTE) Best Regards in Research, Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... 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Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.inforum.c...504/group/News/ (QUOTE) Published October 09, 2011, 11:30 PM Memories of JFK assassination haunt former Secret Service agent and North Dakota native (with audio) MOORHEAD - Nov. 22, 1963, is on Clint Hill's mind every day. The former Secret Service agent assigned to protect Jackie Kennedy the day President John F. Kennedy was assassinated is still haunted with guilt nearly 50 years later. By: Amy Dalrymple, INFORUM MOORHEAD - Nov. 22, 1963, is on Clint Hill's mind every day. The former Secret Service agent assigned to protect Jackie Kennedy the day President John F. Kennedy was assassinated is still haunted with guilt nearly 50 years later. The Washburn, N.D., native and Concordia College graduate was on the running board of the car behind the presidential limousine in Dallas. He heard the first shot and jumped onto the presidential vehicle in an attempt to shield the Kennedys from gunshots. Hill made it just as the first lady was reaching for the top of Kennedy's scalp. He received recognition for "extraordinary courage and heroic effort in the face of maximum danger." But Hill, who battled depression and alcoholism for years as a result of that day, still wonders if he could have done more. "I still have a sense of responsibility and a guilt feeling I should have been able to do more, because I was the only one who had that chance," Hill said in an interview last week with The Forum. Hill, who served five presidents during his time with the Secret Service, will return to Concordia this week to accept an Alumni Achievement Award. "I tried to tell them that I didn't think I was worthy of the honor, but they insisted," said the 79-year-old, who now lives in the Washington, D.C., area. Hill also will give a public talk on Wednesday night, along with Lisa McCubbin, co-author of "The Kennedy Detail," which gives the Secret Service agents' account of the assassination. North Dakota native Hill was born in 1932 in Larimore, N.D., and was adopted as a baby by Chris and Jennie Hill of Washburn. Hill graduated from high school in Washburn and attended Concordia, where he majored in history and physical education and excelled at football and baseball. After Hill graduated from Concordia in 1954, he served in the U.S. Army as an intelligence agent. Hill's Secret Service career began in 1958. When Kennedy was elected, Hill anticipated he would be assigned to protect the president because he had been assigned to President Dwight Eisenhower. He was shocked to learn that he'd instead be protecting the first lady. "I was very upset about it," Hill said. "I didn't really want that assignment." But it turned out to be the best job in the Secret Service at the time, Hill said. Jackie Kennedy and Hill built up a trust and became friends, though she always called him Mr. Hill, and he always called her Mrs. Kennedy. "We shared secrets, and we got to know each other very well," Hill said. That historic day in Dallas was unusual because the first lady was campaigning with Kennedy, something she often shied away from doing. During the motorcade, Hill was positioned behind Jackie Kennedy on the follow-up car and was scanning people taking photos from a grassy area off to the left. Then he heard an explosive noise over his right shoulder, and his eyes scanned past the presidential vehicle. "I saw the president grab at his throat and kind of move to his left. I knew something had happened," Hill said. "I jumped from the follow-up car and ran toward the presidential vehicle," he said. "My attempt was to get on the back of the presidential car and place my body above the president and Mrs. Kennedy so that I would shield them from anything that was a possibility of happening. "There was a second shot, apparently, but I didn't hear it because I was running. (MY INSERTION....HILL first started to jump from the SS followup vehicle at Z-290 to 308, then, he was running on Elm Street) "Then the third shot happened just as I was approaching the presidential vehicle. I slipped, had to regain my steps, got up on the car. The president had been hit in the upper right rear of his head with that third shot. "There were blood and brain matter and bone fragments throughout the entire area, including myself. He slumped to his left. Mrs. Kennedy came up from her seat onto the trunk of the car trying to grab some of the material that came off his head. … I grabbed her and put her back into her seat. When I did that, the president's body fell into her lap. "The right side of his face was up, and I could see his eyes were fixed. There was a hole in the upper right rear of his head. It appeared to me that he was dead." Hill gave a thumbs-down to the follow-up car, and agents yelled to the lead driver to go to Parkland Hospital. Hill continued lying on the back of the car to shield the Kennedys as the car sped 80 mph to the hospital. 'Downward spiral' After the assassination, Hill continued to be assigned to the first lady and the children until the election. He was then assigned to President Lyndon Johnson and served him during the tumultuous time that included the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert Kennedy. Hill also protected Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. In 1970, a promotion had Hill working an administrative desk job, and for the first time since the assassination, he had time to think. That day in Dallas was never far from his mind. "I gradually deteriorated emotionally, and that affected my physical well-being," Hill said. In 1975, doctors said he wasn't fit for the Secret Service, and he retired at age 43. Hill returned to North Dakota and worked on his sister's farm for about six weeks, "trying to get everything out." That year, he also spoke about the assassination for the first time in a famous interview with Mike Wallace of "60 Minutes." Prior to that, Hill hadn't talked about that day with anyone, not even his family. Hill's emotional state only worsened in his retirement. "By 1976, I was once again in a downward spiral, and that lasted until 1982," Hill said. "I had a great big bottle of scotch and a carton of cigarettes, and I laid on a couch in my very dark basement." Then in 1982, a doctor told Hill he either had to change or die. "I decided I wanted to live," Hill said. Without any help, Hill quit drinking and did some security work for Chrysler, Mesa Petroleum and Billy Graham during the 1980s. Decades after the assassination, Hill was still not talking about that day. He declined to be interviewed in 2003 for the 40th anniversary of the event. "I didn't want to talk about any of this type of thing and never did," Hill said. "We as agents never talked about the assassination among ourselves. I never discussed it with any member of my family." Then fellow Secret Service agent Gerald Blaine and journalist Lisa McCubbin began working on the book "The Kennedy Detail." Hill said McCubbin convinced him that it would benefit history if he revealed details of that day from his perspective. Contributing to the book proved to be beneficial for Hill, and he's now talking more openly about that day for the first time, nearly 50 years later. Hill and McCubbin also are collaborating on a book, "Mrs. Kennedy and Me," that will be published in the spring of 2012. In 1990, Hill did something he wishes he would have done earlier: He returned to Dallas and walked Dealey Plaza and looked out the window of the sixth floor. "I came to the conclusion that on that particular day, because of everything involved, the weather, the angle of the building, the way the street was configured and the way the motorcade was running at the time that I did everything I could, and I really couldn't have done any more than that," Hill said. Readers can reach Forum reporter Amy Dalrymple at (701) 241-5590 If you go What: Speech by former Secret Service agent Clint Hill and Lisa McCubbin, co-author of "The Kennedy Detail" When: 7 p.m. Wednesday Where: Concordia Knutson Campus Center Centrum Info: The event is free and open to the public. A Q&A session and book signing will follow.[/font style] (END QUOTE) Best Regards in Research, Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report: "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

Good Day All.... FYI, followed by some previous articles.... Does anyone have any recent updates with respect to the dictabelt work by Dr. Carl Haber and Dr. Vitaliy Fadeyev? http://www.washingto...0ts7K_blog.html (QUOTE) Retired National Archives official charged with stealing sound recordings By Lisa Rein The former chief of the National Archives' audio-visual holdings has been charged with stealing nearly a 1,000 sound recordings over a decade. Tuesday's charges against Leslie Charles Waffen come a year after federal agents raided his home, seizing dozens of boxes from his Rockville basement. The U.S. Attorney's office in Greenbelt charged the 40-year Archives official with theft of federal property, which carries a sentence of up to 10 years in prison and a possible fine. Waffen had retired from the Archives shortly before last year's raid. Charging documents say agents seized 955 "sound recording items"during the raid, although the items are not specified. Waffen's attorney, Michael Fayad, said he was "not in a position" to comment on the charges. The audiovisual holdings contain more than 90,000 film, sound and video recordings made by government agencies and private sources. Many are presidential recordings, kept at presidential libraries and museums. Many more are kept at the Archives' facility in College Park. (END QUOTE) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.washingto...1010904061.html (QUOTE) Federal agents raid home of recently retired National Archives official By Lisa Rein and Spencer S. Hsu Washington Post Staff Writers Friday, October 29, 2010; 8:16 PM Federal agents raided the home of a former official at the National Archives this week and seized up to 20 boxes from his Rockville basement, weeks after his retirement from the government's record-keeping agency. Leslie Waffen, 65, was chief of the Archives' audiovisual holdings, which contain more than 90,000 film, sound and video recordings made by government agencies and private sources. Agents with the U.S. Marshals Service and the Archives' inspector general executed search warrants a day before government watchdogs criticized the agency in two reports Wednesday for failing to properly safeguard sensitive information. U.S. Marshals spokesman David Ablondi said his agency, Montgomery County police and Archives investigators arrived in the 500 block of Saddle Ridge Lane at 7:45 a.m. They appeared to wake Waffen and his wife, said a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation. The Archives agents arrived with a moving truck and a list of items they were searching for. Warren directed them to his basement, where they identified and removed "10 to 20 boxes," a law enforcement official said. The agents loaded the truck and left after about 45 minutes. Ablondi and Archives officials declined to say what was in the boxes. David S. Ferriero, who took over as chief archivist at the National Archives and Records Administration last year, acknowledged the raid in a statement to employees Thursday and commended the inspector general's office for "their commitment to ensuring the restoration of stolen property back to the National Archives. "I will not tolerate any violation of the law that protects both records and property that belongs to the U.S. government and the American people," Ferriero wrote. He noted that his staff is improving training, requiring new policies and buying new equipment "to ensure that our holdings are safe." The government's sound archives date to 1896. A 2004 New York Times article described the efforts of Waffen's team to preserve the only known audio recording of the John F. Kennedy assassination. His department also had custody of the Zapruder film, the famous 8mm color home video of the assassination. Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), who has tracked Archives security concerns for years, said in a statement: "There's a lot of work to be done because these problems have needed correction for years. I hope there will be a plan to get the organization back on track quickly." Auditors with the Government Accountability Office said the agency is leaving itself open to hackers as it preserves records electronically. Auditors found the agency did not protect its computer networks with strong firewalls, used weak passwords and failed to encrypt sensitive information. The report also highlighted a "large and persistent" backlog of paper and media records that need to be preserved. Sen. Thomas E. Carper (D-Del.), who also follows security issues at the Archives, said the findings alarmed him. "The items in jeopardy are more than just pieces of paper, collectibles or electronic files - they are priceless links that connect us to our nation's history and help tell the story of America," Carper said in a statement. "So I am sure it is unsettling to the American people - as it is to me - that the monumental task of preserving these valuable artifacts is not always being performed to the standards we all should expect." Lawmakers criticized the agency last year after the disappearance of a hard drive with sensitive data from the Clinton administration. The drive contained national security information, more than 100,000 Social Security numbers, contact information for Clinton administration officials, Secret Service and White House operating procedures, event logs, social gathering logs and political records. reinl@washpost.com hsus@washpost.com Staff writers Ed O'Keefe and Dan Morse and staff researcher Alice Crites contributed to this report. (END QUOTE) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.democrath..._dictaphone.txt The remastermind: Dictaphone expert helps refine JFK recording By Steve Lathrop Albany Democrat-Herald It has been 45 years since Bill McWilliams first became immersed in the continuing investigation of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. "I was right in the middle of it all," he says. He still is, in his own way. From his home in North Albany, McWilliams works with engineers at the Lawrence Livermore National Loboratory in California, trying to determine the exact number of shots fired in Dallas, Texas on Nov. 22, 1963. Widely considered an expert Dictaphone technician, McWilliams was recruited by researchers who are using advanced techniques in sound reproduction to provide them with first-hand information on the machine and the assassination as they search for additional evidence. It was McWilliams who serviced the now-famous Dictabelt #10 at the Dallas police station the day of the assassination. It is the machine that recorded events as they crackled forth from a motorcycle policeman's open microphone. "I heard it all as it happened," McWilliams says. The research, which has been going on since 2005, was authorized by Leslie Waffin [sp] of the National Archives, who released the machine to the lab to apply the latest techniques in sound reproduction. Dr. Carl Haber and Dr. Vitaliy Fadeyev have led the research using a digital optical camera called a Smartscope to scan the grooves of the belt and create a digital image of sound patterns. It is fed into computers programmed to clean up the sound removing excess noise, static and voices. "The sound is reproduced without the stylus riding on the grooves," said McWilliams. "And the computer can eliminate any unnecessary noise." Already involved for more than a year, McWilliams supplies equipment, specifications and mechanical data for the dictabelt recordings. "It's a slow process. They are still working on it," he said. "Ultimately they are trying to find out if there were more shots fired." The day of the assassination, McWilliams not only heard the event, he witnessed the transfer of the mortally wounded president from the ambulance to the hospital, which was located directly behind the Dallas Police Station. "I believe there were more shots fired," he says. "Maybe this will answer that question." In addition to his work on the assassination investigation, McWilliams never is far from a Dictaphone, which were in wide use between the late 19th- and early 20th century. Dictabelts that had grooves cut into a plastic belt, rather than onto a wax cylinder, were introduced in 1947. Then the tape recorder gained popularity, and Dictaphones fell out of favor. McWilliams may be the world's largest provider and repairer of vintage machines. His shelves are lined with wax cylinders, vacuum tubes, cassettes and magnetic tape analog recording and dictating equipment — technological relics that predated tape recorders and cell phones. "He's known all over the country," said his wife Dorothy. Working from a large shop behind his home, McWilliams and his son Doak have created a website and also sell parts on eBay. "I don't deal much with the computers," he admits. "I don't really trust them." He doesn't ignore them, either; he simply prefers being able to use his hands. His entire inventory has been indexed by hand to back up the computer log. McWilliams spent 33 years with Dictaphone after his graduation from Texas Institute of Technology. He eventually becoming a regional service director. The Korean War veteran retired in 1989 and moved to Albany in 2000. He now owns about 200 machines dating back to 1889, a year after Dictaphone — then Columbia Graphophone — was created. "I've always collected," he says. "Some are pretty unique." His largest is 6 feet tall, and 300 pounds and the smallest is a hand-held device that fits into a shirt pocket. Also included is a 1953 model that was the world's first audio machine to announce the time. "There are probably no more than two or three of them in the world," he said. The collection evolved into repair work, parts sales and consultation. It also has star quality. "I get a lot of calls to rent or loan machines to movie prop companies," he said. The Kevin Costner movie "Thirteen Days" and the PBS series "Meaning of Grace" both used vintage Dictaphones from McWilliams' inventory. (END QUOTE) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.dallasnew...hjfk.38352.html The sound of 40-year-old gunfire in Dealey Plaza Applying today's technology to fragile recording of JFK assassination 12:10 PM CDT on Saturday, July 31, 2004 By KATHARINE GOODLOE / The Dallas Morning News WASHINGTON – It could be the ultimate artifact for historians and conspiracy theorists alike: the only sound recording from the moment of John F. Kennedy's assassination, made by a Dallas police motorcycle radio. Many scholars believe it can answer a mystery from Nov. 22, 1963: three shots or four? Spurred last year by the 40th anniversary of the assassination, researchers at the National Archives are trying to preserve and copy the recording, which is too fragile to be played again and has never been authentically copied. It could, they say, offer the only hard evidence of how many bullets were fired that day. Researchers have long studied inferior copies of the recording. Some say it shows three shots were fired at Kennedy's motorcade and concluded Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone; others say it shows four shots were fired and concluded Oswald was aided by a second gunman. So as the Archives aims to copy the recording, they're also reviving the debate surrounding it. "There is not closure on this issue," said Gary Mack, curator of the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza. An authentic copy of the recordings, he said, "might be able to resolve part of the Kennedy assassination, one way or the other." The controversy surrounding the assassination, though, has also surrounded the recording. The Dallas Police Department created the original recordings inadvertently. A radio stuck in the "on" position relayed sounds of the killing to headquarters, where they were etched onto dictation belts. But they are alternately noisy and inaudible, so years passed before anyone examined them for echoes of gunfire. They lay untapped during the Warren Commission investigation, the first government inquiry into Kennedy's assassination. That panel concluded Oswald was the lone gunman, firing three shots at the motorcade. Controversy about the dictation belts' contents was revived during the House Select Committee on Assassinations investigation, and the belts became the linchpin of their 1979 report. The recording, the committee said, indicates four shots were fired – including one from the grassy knoll. Their conclusion that Oswald likely did not act alone set conspiracy circles ablaze. But some scholars point to the delay in finding the tapes as reason to question their authenticity. Others conducted studies on the recording's sound waves that both rejected and reaffirmed the House committee's findings. Even now, the debate continues. "The evidence remains controversial and probably inconclusive from the standpoint of history," said John Tunheim, a federal judge in Minneapolis who chaired the Assassination Records Review Board. "It really has gone back and forth." One step toward reconciling the debate, experts said, is producing an authentic copy of the recordings for use in future research. That's the goal of the National Archives, which received the set of five dictation belts from the Justice Department in 1990, as many of the assassination records were made public. But the keynote belt, which recorded the actual killing, was worn and split from use by Dallas police, the FBI, the Secret Service and other government inquiries. Too fragile to be played again, but too important to be ignored, the Archives simply stored the belt without copying it in the hopes future technology would enable them to reproduce the recording without harming the original. More than a decade later, that day is almost here. Although many of copies of the dictation belt exist – some are even available online – most are not well documented, and none is deemed authentic by the Archives. That designation matters because a bona fide copy would validate further research. "The question of what is authentic and what is not is debated every day by researchers," Mr. Tunheim said. "So when you make a copy, it's important to be done under perfect circumstances." The Archives revived a push for an authentic copy of the belt after a spate of calls from researchers near the 40th anniversary of the assassination in November. Most wanted an authentic copy of the main dictation belt, said Leslie Waffen, who oversees custody of the belt for the Archives. "We couldn't say to them that we had a true and actual copy of the belt," Mr. Waffen said. "We said we really ought to look into this further and see if there's anything available, technology-wise, for us." What they found is optical scanning, which digitally charts the grooves in the dictation belts and reproduces them on a data map. The end product would be a visual display, which Mr. Waffen said is likely to be more useful to researchers than an audio one. "You have to get beneath the noise to pick something out of there," he said. "We're hoping the optical scanning method will allow people to do that." The technique would also avoid further wear on the original belt – a key factor in the Archives mission to preserve its authenticity. The Archives hosted a forum this summer to discuss the method, but decided the technology is a year away from being feasible, Mr. Waffen said. No official estimate is available, but Mr. Waffen expects the procedure will cost less than $1,000. But will such a copy further research or merely fan existing conspiracy theories? Mr. Mack, who was one of the first people to believe the recordings included echoes of gunfire, said their continued study could yield three outcomes. It could confirm the Warren Commission's report, uphold the House committee's report, or do neither, he said. "Many people have tried to resolve which group of scientists is correct," he said. "The Dictabelt itself is a starting place." Whatever the research generates, scholars said it's unlikely to snuff out the conspiracy theories that have gripped Americans for the past four decades. "There's always been a swirling controversy with the Kennedy assassination, and there always will be," Mr. Waffen said. "But at least in this case we can provide a solid piece of material researchers can turn to." E-mail: kgoodloe at dallasnews.com (END QUOTE) Best Regards in Research, Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage: President JOHN F. KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Website Homepages Detailing Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report: "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

Hi Michael.... Thanks.... Yes, i also found that link while reading through Mr. HERSHORN's obits. GMTA Best Regards in Research, Don

Hi Bill, Positively count on it. Like a steel, well documented, cage. Please send me a private PM with the Best day(s) + time(s) to phone you. Best Regards, Don

Good Day Michael .... Thank You very much.... I wanted to ask Mr. HERSHORN what (and/or who, etc) specifically caused him to want to, + then obtain his access to the Dal-Tex Building the same weekend of the attack + take a rifle up into it and capture his following photos from a Dal-Tex 7th-floor window (even though that very same attack weekend the lame-stream media and "investigating" "officials" were all flapping-their-gums about the warrenatti- apologists, supposed, "lone-nut" "snipers lair" located right next door).... http://img29.imagesh...daltexshell.jpg .... from my public file.... http://img176.images...iesanglessl.jpg http://img19.imagesh...duplicatest.gif http://img80.imagesh...eationdalte.gif http://img132.images...addaltexir6.gif http://img213.images...ex122303lx8.gif http://img821.images...plicatesang.jpg In one of Mr. HERSHORN's obituaries it mentioned that at the time of his death he was (unfortunately) self-afflicted with alcoholic-dementia, so he may or may not have remembered why and/or who specifically caused him to take a rifle up into the Dal-Tex the same attack weekend, so I will still contact his wife to learn what he shared privately and publicly. Best Regards in Research, Don

Good Day .... FYI.... http://www.thedailyb...of-the-fbi.html (QUOTE) Hoover's Secret Files The FBI director kept famous files on everything from Martin Luther King's sex life to never-before-reported secret meetings between RFK and Marilyn Monroe, as a new book reveals. An exclusive excerpt from Ronald Kessler's 'The Secrets of the FBI.' Aug 2, 2011 1:54 PM EDT Complex man that he was, J. Edgar Hoover left nothing to chance. The director shrewdly recognized that building what became known as the world's greatest law enforcement agency would not necessarily keep him in office. So after Hoover became director, he began to maintain a special Official and Confidential file in his office. The "secret files," as they became widely known, would guarantee that Hoover would remain director as long as he wished. Defenders of Hoover— a dwindling number of older former agents who still refer to him as "Mr. Hoover"—have claimed his Official and Confidential files were not used to blackmail members of Congress or presidents. They say Hoover kept the files with sensitive information about political leaders in his suite so that young file clerks would not peruse them and spread gossip. The files were no more secret than any other bureau files, Hoover supporters say. While the files may well have been kept in Hoover's office to protect them from curious clerks, it was also true that far more sensitive files containing top-secret information on pending espionage cases were kept in the central files. If Hoover truly was concerned about information getting out, he should have been more worried about the highly classified information in those files. Moreover, the Official and Confidential files were secret in the sense that Hoover never referred to them publicly, as he did the rest of the bureau's files. He distinguished them from other bureau files by calling them "confidential," denoting secrecy. But whether they were secret or not and where they were kept was irrelevant. What was important was how Hoover used the information from those files and from other bureau files. "The moment [Hoover] would get something on a senator," said William Sullivan, who became the number three official in the bureau under Hoover, "he'd send one of the errand boys up and advise the senator that 'we're in the course of an investigation, and we by chance happened to come up with this data on your daughter. But we wanted you to know this. We realize you'd want to know it.' Well, Jesus, what does that tell the senator? From that time on, the senator's right in his pocket." Lawrence J. Heim, who was in the Crime Records Division, confirmed to me that the bureau sent agents to tell members of Congress that Hoover had picked up derogatory information on them. "He [Hoover] would send someone over on a very confidential basis," Heim said. As an example, if the Metropolitan Police in Washington had picked up evidence of homosexuality, "he [Hoover] would have him say, 'This activity is known by the Metropolitan Police Department and some of our informants, and it is in your best interests to know this.' But nobody has ever claimed to have been blackmailed. You can deduce what you want from that." Of course, the reason no one publicly claimed to have been blackmailed is that blackmail, by definition, entails collecting embarrassing information that people do not want public. But not everyone was intimidated. Roy L. Elson, the administrative assistant to Senator Carl T. Hayden, will never forget an encounter he had with Cartha "Deke" DeLoach, the FBI's liaison with Congress. For twenty years, Hayden headed the Senate Rules and Administration Committee and later the Senate Appropriations Committee, which had jurisdiction over the FBI's budget. He was one of the most powerful members of Congress. As Hayden, an Arizona Democrat, suffered hearing loss and some dementia in his later years, Elson became known as the "101st senator" because he made many of the senator's decisions for him. In the early 1960s, DeLoach wanted an additional appropriation for the new FBI headquarters building, which Congress approved in April 1962. "The senator supported the building," Elson said. "He always gave the bureau more money than they needed. This was a request for an additional appropriation. I had reservations about it. DeLoach was persistent." DeLoach "hinted" that he had "information that was unflattering and detrimental to my marital situation and that the senator might be disturbed," said Elson, who was then married to his second wife. "I was certainly vulnerable that way," Elson said. "There was more than one girl [he was seeing]. . . . The implication was there was information about my sex life. There was no doubt in my mind what he was talking about." Elson said to DeLoach: "Let's talk to him [the senator] about it. I think he's heard about everything there is to hear about me. Bring the photos if you have them." At that point, Elson said, "He started backing off. . . . He said, 'I'm only joking.' Bullxxxx," Elson said. "I interpreted it as attempted blackmail." Commenting on Elson's allegation, DeLoach says, "It never happened." Reading the Official and Confidential files that survived makes it clear they could have been gathered for no other purpose than blackmail. For example, on June 13, 1958, the head of the Washington field office informed Hoover that, prior to marrying a member of Congress, the member's wife had been "having an affair with a Negro [and] also at one time carried on an affair with a House Post Office employee." More recently, the report said, the congressman's wife "endeavored to have an affair with [an] Indonesian, who declined." In response to this tidbit, Hoover wrote back on June 25 that it was "certainly thoughtful of you to advise me of matters of current interest, and I am glad to have the benefit of this information." "This was a way of putting congressmen on notice that we had something on them and therefore they would be more disposed to meeting the bureau's needs and keeping Hoover in power," says John J. McDermott, who headed the Washington field office and eventually became deputy associate FBI director. Hoover let presidents know that he had dirt on them as well. For example, on March 22, 1962, Hoover had lunch with President Kennedy. Hoover told him that through bugs and wiretaps, the FBI had learned that Jack was having an affair with Judith Campbell Exner, a twenty five-year-old divorcée. Hoover informed the president that Exner was also having an affair with Chicago mob boss Sam Giancana. Because Hoover knew such tidbits, no president would fire him. As President Lyndon B. Johnson said, "I would rather have him [Hoover] inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in." Many of the confidential files were destroyed after Hoover's death. One such item that never came out previously was a teletype sent to headquarters from William Simon, who headed the Los Angeles field office, just after the August 5, 1962, death of Marilyn Monroe at her Brentwood, California home. According to DeLoach, who saw the teletype, it said that then Attorney General Robert Kennedy had borrowed Simon's personal car to see Monroe just before her death. Confirming this, Simon's son Greg says, "My father said Robert Kennedy would borrow his white Lincoln convertible. That's why we didn't have it on many weekends." Simon's daughter Stephanie Branon also confirmed that her father lent his car to Kennedy and remembered that the attorney general once left his Ray-Ban sunglasses in the glove compartment. As attorney general, Kennedy was entitled to be driven by an FBI security detail. The fact that he chose to use Simon's personal car is consistent with William Simon's report to headquarters that he lent his car to Kennedy for the purpose of clandestine meetings with Monroe. Whether his last meeting with her, possibly to break up with her, may have contributed to her suicide is legitimate speculation. While there is ample evidence that Hoover used the information in his files for blackmail, there was usually no need for it. Simply the perception that he had such information was enough to keep politicians in line. In the end, the answer to why Hoover did not go after organized crime until he was forced into it is the same reason he maintained files on members of Congress. Above all, Hoover wanted to keep his job. Many members of Congress—not to mention powerful local politicians—had ties to organized crime and might try to unseat him if he went after the Mafia. The Mafia was as powerful as the president. Moreover, as a perfectionist, Hoover did not want to risk losing a case against a powerful figure. For the same reasons, for purposes of prosecution, Hoover would not investigate corrupt politicians. As FBI director, Hoover had an obligation to go after both Mafia figures and corrupt politicians. Yet until he was pressured into investigating organized crime, those two targets were sacrosanct. On May 1, 1972, Helen Gandy, Hoover's personal secretary, handed him the first in a series of exposés by ++Jack Anderson++[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/09/15/nixon-white-house-plot-to-kill-journalist-jack-anderson.html], whose column appeared in The Washington Post. Previously, Anderson had enraged Hoover by assigning a reporter to rummage through his trash at home. The resulting column revealed that on Sundays, Hoover ate a hearty breakfast of poached eggs and hotcakes. It also revealed that he brushed his teeth with Ultra Brite, washed with Palmolive, and shaved with Noxzema shaving cream. Now, in his latest column, Anderson revealed that the FBI had conducted surveillance of Martin Luther King Jr.'s sex life. Besides attending sex orgies, King was having an affair with a young woman in his office, says an agent who monitored wiretaps on King's office and home phones. "Besides his home, King had an apartment," the former agent says. "On Tuesdays, he'd go to the apartment, ostensibly to meditate and write sermons." In fact, King's girlfriend would meet him there for sex. For a man whose lifelong mantra had been "Don't embarrass the bureau," the continuing stream of unfavorable disclosures had to be unnerving. Yet Hoover rarely revealed his true personal feelings. Sphinx-like, he projected the same persona to his friends and family as he did to the general public. The only difference was that in person, he showed a sense of humor. Occasionally Hoover cracked a smile or played a prank. James H. Geer, who would later head the Intelligence Division, recalled the time when a nervous new agent went to shake Hoover's hand after graduating from training, and mistakenly introduced himself as "Mr. Hoover." "Very nice to meet you, Mr. Hoover," the director responded, smiling. Shortly before six in the afternoon of May 1, 1972, Tom Moton, Hoover's FBI chauffeur, drove him to Associate Director Clyde Tolson's apartment, where the two had dinner. Moton drove Hoover home at 10:15 p.m. By 8:15 the next morning, Annie Fields, Hoover's housekeeper, became concerned. By then, she should have heard the sound of the shower. Hoover's toast, soft- boiled eggs, and coffee were getting cold. James Crawford, Hoover's previous FBI chauffeur, had come over to plant some roses. Checking on him, he found Hoover's body sprawled on the oriental rug next to his bed. He touched one of his hands; it was cold. After examining Hoover's nude body and consulting with his doctor, the District of Columbia medical examiner, Dr. James L. Luke, attributed the director's death to "hypertensive cardiovascular disease." As part of the speculation about his love life, a rumor had gone around that Hoover had an underdeveloped sex organ. That was not true, Dr. Luke tells me. When Hoover's will was probated, it turned out that Tolson received his estate, estimated at $560,000, including his home. It was the equivalent of $2.9 million today. Gandy received $5,000, Annie Fields $3,000, and James Crawford $2,000. The bequest to Tolson was the final word on the closeness of their relationship. Hoover preached that even the appearance of impropriety must be avoided. He disciplined agents for losing their handcuffs. Yet after the death of the imperious FBI director, a Justice Department and FBI investigation found that over the years, Hoover had FBI employees build a front portico and a rear deck on his home at 4936 30th Place, NW, in Washington. They installed a fish pond, equipped with water pump and lights, and they constructed shelves and other conveniences for him. They painted his house, maintained his yard, replaced the sod, installed artificial turf, and planted and moved shrubbery. They built a redwood garden fence and installed a flagstone court and sidewalks. FBI employees also reset Hoover's clocks, retouched his wallpaper, and prepared his tax returns. Many of the gifts Hoover received from FBI employees, such as cabinets and bars, had been built by them on government time. Hoover also ordered FBI employees to write Masters of Deceit for him under his name. He pocketed part of the proceeds. When the FBI and Justice Department finally investigated the abuses in the mid- 1970s at the direction of FBI Director Clarence M. Kelley, "a number of these agents had already retired from the bureau, and we were running all over the country interviewing them," says Richard H. Ash, who headed the FBI task force. "The agent being interviewed would say, 'Wait a minute.' And he would go over to his files, pull out a log about all these things they had done, because it was eating at them that they were being used that way." "Hoover [and some of his aides] would be prosecuted under today's standards. No question of it. And should have been," Buck Revell, formerly the bureau's associate deputy director over investigations, says. "Hoover for the money he kept from the books he supposedly wrote but didn't write. Using government funds and resources for personal gain. And use of government employees to maintain his residence. Again, that is fraud against the government. Taking vacations and putting in vouchers for expenses. Agents have been prosecuted for that. Those things that were somewhat taken for granted back then would be prosecuted today." "Hoover did a good job for many years," says John McDermott, the former Washington field office special agent in charge who became deputy associate FBI director. "He went wrong along the way. He became a martinet. In seeking to prevent embarrassment to the bureau, he equated the bureau with himself. Everyone told him how good he was. He came to believe the exorbitant praise he was receiving. Anybody who can be conned by a flatterer has a character weakness." Hoover ran the FBI for forty-eight years. Never again would one man so dominate the bureau. In 1975 and 1976, the Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities, headed by Senator Frank Church, held hearings on FBI and CIA abuses. These included surveillance of Martin Luther King Jr., illegal wiretapping and mail openings, and surreptitious entries or "black-bag jobs." Prior to that, members of Congress took the position they did not want to know what the FBI and CIA were doing. The Church Committee hearings, as they became known, exposed real abuses and a lack of focus that undercut the mission of those agencies. The hearings ultimately improved both agencies and established an effective oversight mechanism. When creating the FBI on June 29, 1908, as an unnamed investigative bureau of thirty-four special agents within the Justice Department, Congress had been leery of creating a national police force. Because of that, agents initially were not even empowered to carry weapons. Despite limitations on its power, questions arose very quickly about the extent of the bureau's authority and methods. Yet whenever a new threat arose, those questions would be set aside, and Congress would entrust the bureau with new powers. Reproduced with permission from Crown Publishers. Like The Daily Beast on Facebook and follow us on Twitter for updates all day long. Ronald Kessler is the New York Times bestselling author of eighteen nonfiction books, including In the President's Secret Service, The Terrorist Watch, Inside the White House, and The CIA at War. 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Good Day .... FYI http://trumbull.patc...-on-the-library <QUOTE> The Doctor Calls on the Library Mystery writer Dr. Jerry Labriola dropped in on the Trumbull Library one recent night. By Aaron Leo Email the author May 27, 2011 O.J. Simpson had means, motive and opportunity to commit murder, but the Los Angeles Police and the prosecution team bungled the probe, leading to acquittal, according to Dr. Jerry Labriola, who has teamed with famed forensic scientist Dr. Henry Lee in analyses of several criminal investigations. The 1963 assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy? It was a conspiracy, possibly Mafia-related. And there was another gunman. Labriola, a medical doctor for more than 35 years, speculated on the two cases to 13 listeners at the Trumbull Library while promoting his latest book, Scent of Danger. "What are the secrets hidden in the Egyptian temples? In the tomb of Lady Beckett? In the tiny perfume bottle? What is the connection to bioterrorism, Islamic extremists, and to the rainforests of the Japanese Yakuza?", asks the book jacket. The doctor said the library was the fourth stop on his book tour. Labriola explained his beliefs after outlining the facts of both cases. "There are a lot of irregularities here," he said of the trial of O.J. Simpson for the murder of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ronald Goldman in the ex-football player's home in 1994. First, much of the blood found at the scene belonged to the victims and little to Simpson. The little blood of Simpson's that was found contained an anti-clotting agent used in labs. Police might have planted evidence to bolster their case but not to frame Simspon, Labriola said. The couple had fought frequently before the murders, and Simpson had beaten his ex-wife until she was unrecognizable at times, he noted. Still, the blood spatter was inconsistent with the prosecution's theory and police mishandled the investigation by failing to bring blood evidence to the lab immediately, Labriola said. "That's a no-no," the doctor said. The discrediting of LAPD Det. Mark Fuhrman also helped the defense sway the jury in the nine-month trial, he said. Regardless, Simpson was later found liable for their deaths in a civil suit. In the case of Kennedy, analysis showed Lee Harvey Oswald could not have fired twice in the space of time Kennedy would have been vulnerable. Further, the "magic bullet" theory doesn't work, he added. "There were all sorts of rumors swirling around," Labriola said of the time after the killing. He argued that the Mafia was a likely candidate for the killing because Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald, was a known mafia associate. JFK's brother Robert was also prosecuting the mob, which was also upset at being forced out following the Bay of Pigs incident in Cuba, Labriola said. The Kennedy brothers also shared girlfriends with the mob, the doctor said. Regardless, the details of the death were covered up or destroyed, such as the original autopsy notes and real photos of the wound to Kennedy's head, Labriola charged. "What was released to the public was a farce," the doctor said. "After nearly 50 years, an abundance of theories abound in this case," he added. But what has changed after near 50 years is the reach of forensic science. "So many people can be brought under the umbrella of forensic science," Labriola said. While television crime scene investigation shows are correct, they are overdramatized. But they have highlighted the importance of the field. "They're one of the reasons why it's become so popular," said Labriola, who sold and signed books after the talk. That's the case for Trumbull High School senior Jillian Wyckoff, 18, who plans on studying the field after the graduation this year. "I've been watching those shows for years," she said. She likens the work to "fighting crime with science." Her mother, Lynda Gabrielson, said the field allows all kinds of people to serve in law enforcement. <END QUOTE> Best Regards in Research, Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... 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Good Day .... FYI.... http://www.heraldtri...e-Harvey-Oswald (QUOTE) FBI agent kept tabs on Lee Harvey Oswald By Billy Cox Published: Monday, June 13, 2011 at 5:08 p.m. Last Modified: Monday, June 13, 2011 at 5:08 p.m. Less than two weeks before President Kennedy was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963, an agitated Lee Harvey Oswald entered the FBI's office in Dallas and delivered an ultimatum to agent James P. Hosty. The visit led to a government cover-up that further complicated one of the darkest chapters in American history. Hosty, who retired in Punta Gorda and subsequently fought for decades to salvage his reputation, passed away Friday at age 86 in Kansas City, Mo., following a brief bout with cancer. In his 1996 memoir "Assignment: Oswald," the counter-espionage agent attempted to set the record straight by taking aim at former FBI director-for-life J. Edgar Hoover: "I ... came to understand that one of our jobs was to protect the Bureau's image at all costs, even if it ran roughshod over individuals or principals." Working at the FBI station in Dallas, in October 1963 Hosty was directed to keep tabs on Oswald, the former Marine who defected to Russia, only to return in 1962. Hosty began making queries and focused largely on Oswald's Russian-born wife, Marina. On Nov. 12, 1963, Oswald visited the FBI office and left a terse handwritten note to Hosty, who was in the field at the time. It reportedly stated: "If you have anything you want to learn about me, come talk to me directly. If you don't cease bothering my wife, I will take appropriate action and report this to the proper authorities." James Hosty's son, Tom, who helped his father write his memoirs, said his dad was juggling 40 cases at the time. Tom Hosty said his father's top priority was to assess Oswald's potential as a broader national security threat. But following the sniper assassination at Dealey Plaza, the FBI was thrown into turmoil. James Hosty had his first and only meeting with Oswald during Oswald's initial interrogation by members of the Dallas Police Department. Hosty's two pages of handwritten notes are believed to be the only surviving records from Oswald's brief incarceration. Oswald was shot dead by Jack Ruby on Nov. 24, 1963. Hosty's name and number were discovered in Oswald's address book. Looking to assuage Hoover's fears that Oswald might have been an FBI informant, Hosty's supervisor, Gordon Shanklin, ordered Hosty to destroy the note Oswald left him. Hosty was temporarily suspended from duty when the truth came out during congressional hearings about his having misled the Warren Commission. But Hosty remained with the FBI until he reached mandatory retirement age in 1979. Tom Hosty said he and his father decided to tell his story in a book following Oliver Stone's "JFK" docu-drama in 1991. Stone portrayed Hosty as Oswald's handler in a conspiracy frame-up. "Dad laid it all out there," said Tom Hosty from Indianapolis. "He was determined to get the truth out. It was a very positive thing; he felt he could rest at peace." A World War II veteran and 1948 graduate of Notre Dame, the Chicago native was with the U.S. Army as it liberated the emaciated survivors of the Nazi concentration camp at Dachau. In 1990, he and his late wife Janet moved to Punta Gorda, where he was an avid consumer of history books and CNN newscasts in retirement. He lived in Florida until February, when his family brought him back to Kansas for hospice care. Hosty's funeral will be in Roeland Park, Kan., on Saturday. Hosty had nine children, 22 grandchildren, and nine great-grandchildren. (END QUOTE) Best Regards in Research, +++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report: "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 File: President KENNEDY Assassination Research, Maps, & Discoveries for Your Considerations.... http://profile.image...user/droberdeau T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

Good Day .... Is anyone in contact with, or can refer me to HERBERT SHELDON HERSHORN? He also went by a first name of "Shel" and "Shelley". Mr. HERSHORN was an 11-22-63 "Black Star Agency" photographer. Thank You in advance. Best Regards in Research, Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif Visual Report: "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 File: President KENNEDY Assassination Research, Maps, & Discoveries for Your Considerations.... http://profile.image...user/droberdeau T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/