Ian Kingsbury
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Edwin
Even If they knew who they were ,they could not tell us,only each other.
That's how they roll!.
Ian
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Here is a 1974 article by Jerry Rose dismissing the $200 a month FBI informant story.
Jerry Rose earned his reputation as an outstanding researcher and his Third and Fourth Decade Journals have proven invaluable over the years.
In the above referenced article, Dr Rose concluded:
No, I don't believe Oswald was agent #179 of the FBI as reported by the Dallas cowboys. But he was almost surely
an undercover agent, as those upon whom he was informing were in an excellent position to know.
Earlier in that article Rose noted:
A clerk in the FBI office, William Walter, claimed to have seen a file in that office identifying Oswald as an undercover agent.
Here is Walter's sworn HSCA testimony: http://www.maryferre...331&relPageId=4
Michael
Thanks for the Walter submission he takes the next 24 pages to explain what was
"Wrong" with the warning of the 17th. Cat and mouse but no mouse I was quite upset he did
Not explain the process required to make a teletype machine.
I do not see the purpose of leaking the warning message when it had already
Been removed from all offices?. Maybe professional pride!.
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I prefer Don Roberdeau's signage
These should be handed out to the public with a poll on the reverse
No way not from there
They say he did it so he musta did it.
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RayP.S. Could the moderators consider removing the word "Was" from the title of this thread, replace it with "Is" and swap Lee Oswald's name with Ray Carroll's please?
I propose we rename Mr. Farley instead
and call him
THE ONLY MAN WHO KNOWS WHERE OZ WAS
WHEN HE WASN'T ON THE BUS
He was probably at the Tidy laundromat rinsing his halo!.
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Lee
Florers arrest is on film if we can Id the cop/sheriff with him (white hat)
I think it's the cooper film.Braden in his alibi described the rifle being taken from
The TSBD as the way they were holding it was not normal but he describes
The rope/string sling not the leather strap like the Nara model .
Counsel tries to help him but he must have seen the backyard Carcano
As this has a rope sling?, then he cannot lie round the fact the HSCA ignored it.
Sean
Both Braden and Florer gave the same alibi but it was reported by lift operater (William Sharper interviewed by Warren De Breuys)as being a stranger in the building(Dal-Tex)
And "in the building at the time" both Braden And Florer were on the third floor but where the reports are vague.
Lummie Lewis was given Florer to take to DPD along with the lady that Craig
Stopped in the TSBD car park she could be the 40 yr old sales rep .
It's obvious more time elapsed than has been reported as Truly also phoned his wife before the Baker/stairs trip.
I am wondering if Oswald was in the small vestibule on the first floor
When asked for a phone by the ID wielding person and that's how his name
And wrong address were on Revills list at the top and he was simply let go then?.
Ian
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This thread is too good to be left on page 2
Looks like the buck stops with the S.S. again?.
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Who was it that Truly identified on the third /fourth floor?.
The answer must be "not Oswald"
Perhaps Baker was not "on song" at first and gave an honest first day report
Leaving the I.D business to Truly ,and as Oswald was sitting in the same room
When Baker gave his report the I.d of 3rd/4th floor man is then on the shoulders of Truly
Who was never asked who this "employee " was.
By the time it's written up the 3rd/4th floor man disappears altogether
So there is no reason to ask Truly to I'D him.
I believe the TSBD had at least 4 maybe 6 facilitators or spotters
Perhaps Baker got there a bit too quickly for them?
Perhaps Dougherty's "FBI" man was the man from the 3rd/4th floor
Who then Walked down the stairs till he heard Baker/Truly walking up
He Has to turn and walk up till Truly catches up.
Truly was in front at some point ,brave guy with a possible gunman
On the loose.
Strange thing is nobody saw 3rd/4th floor man after this encounter
Unless he was known to others but I cannot find his testimony.
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Phillips had a brother?.
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Every new piece of information corrupts the last "latest" new information
All we basically know is the JFK went to Dallas and got himself shot
The lies were in place before the event and the cover up was operative
Soon after the last shot.
As long as Oswald (or patsy of choice ) was in Dallas they could get away with it
People will throw information at you blaming every group with a grudge
And finding information to suit where will it all end?.
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Thanks Tom and Tommy
I am trying to establish a link between Ruthless Paine
And general Walker there seems to be a class of people
In Dallas who were mover and shakers arou d the political right
Linked to the church in other words any Christian church group
Would be above suspicion merely cos they are church founded
I believe Mrs Connel became a Rosicrucian and their is "talk" of
Michael and /or Ruthless attending meetings with Oswald could these have been on church premises?.
These would be a good opportunity for Ruth Paine to fill her filling cabinets
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http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/30/3029-001.gif
A strange contact ?.
Or a relative?.
Sorry for the edits my IPhone is more intelligent than I.
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I thought that Cuban intel had confirmed this fact .
I know it's a bit naive to believe them!.
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John
Another from the same pen
Once you permit those who are convinced of their own superior rightness
to censor and silence and suppress those who hold contrary opinions,
just at that moment the citadel has been surrendered.
Ex OSS and anti-fascist a strange mix
Would you agree ?.
Ian
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Those who let it happen or prevent the truth being discovered are as
Guilty as the shooters.
Now the guilt is shared by 75 % of the population it's not apathy
It's frustration. Just look where the recent child abuse case has gone
Nowhere near the guilty .and those that let that happen are as guilty
As the a users. Bad things happen when good men do nothing
And it continues today.
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After Cinque came Richard Hooke ,I was waiting for mr Line to back them up.
It was a bit obvious and some muttonheads got rather involved
Over a thousand posts !.
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George Entwistle is the sacrificial headless chicken this week !.
By the time they get that sorted and the mis-identification farce
The sting would have been taken out of the public's "push" area
And on to the next scandal because all the good men did nothing
Thank the supreme being for Tom Watson !.
I cannot believe nobody showed Stephen Messham a picture of his abuser!.
Perhaps we have to wait for news of the next Hyperinjunction one that allows the news to be printed
But disallows us from reading or discussing it!.
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Tom
One of the problems is keeping up to speed with what is known
And what has been thrown out with the bath water .
I myself split my time between the current board and the historical posts
Only to sometimes find what was Good in 2009 has been disregarded
In 2011.
However the first names I looked for was yours and Robert's(Howard)
As these could be followed using the original documents.
I personally do not have a clue where to find most of it and am glad when somebody does
I think Thomas might be looking for easy answers or for a more collective method of research
Easy in a classroom but with so many different individuals interested in completely
Differing aspects of the case , this would be difficult to achieve.
Over at Duncan's site there is only Duncan to moderate and the behaviour there is at times appalling
( including me) which is why they are all still focused on the magic Dealey show.
I for one think you are doing a great and thankless task.
So Thank you Tom Scully.
Ian
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Is this Caster related to Warren Caster the man withe rifles on the 21st?.
Did Connel pass this information on to Walker or was he being kept up to date
By others?.
Sorry it's 2 questions but a link is starting to appear where Odio is not as
Straight as once appeared!.
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Mr Cameron suggests there could be a witch hunt involving "Gays"
Does he think we are all Sun readers ?.
I understood most were of the perpetrators were "married" and the connection was public school?.
Is this a deflection or ignorance on Cameron's part?.
I think he may be pretending he does not know anything about it.
Where was Cameron schooled?.
I found this strange to Ian,is it pure ignorance or a deflection technique.Someone who is Gay is no more likely to have Paedophile tendencies than a Heterosexual.I doubt if he needed to read the list,I would think Intelligence had given him a list of likely suspects.
I agree Malcolm
The tendancy to abuse is strongest in those that have been abused it appears difficult to
Break the cycle, and as for the control aspect Most in party battles were won by Hague except
When he came up against Cameron.
Ian
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Ok Duncan I am game ,has it been rotated?.
Ian
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Mr Cameron suggests there could be a witch hunt involving "Gays"
Does he think we are all Sun readers ?.
I understood most were of the perpetrators were "married" and the connection was public school?.
Is this a deflection or ignorance on Cameron's part?.
I think he may be pretending he does not know anything about it.
Where was Cameron schooled?.
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Maybe even a general election ?.
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Maybe some kind of announcement is due as Cameron has
Gone to bury his head in the sand in Dubai.
More names are being revealed on various blogs
Tom Watson MP has asked a question in the commons and has been promised
By Cameron that he will look into it .
Will the reveal of JFK's Killers
Come in the form of a blog too sensational to be ignored?.
The libel laws in UK have prevented this story form being public news
Although most is public knowledge .
Do we have a right to know?.
Question for Stephen Roy Re: 544 Camp Street
in JFK Assassination Debate
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Jim
According to the Jones' the flyers were picked up by Kerry Thornley?.
Ian