Bernice Moore

david quote ''Who dunnit? They all bloody dunnit, and covered for each other, like in Agatha Christie's Murder On the Orient Express. Meanwhile, we wrack our brains, and can't get off this accursed, snowbound train! ''

that reminds me of reading in more than one book, that within the halls of washington, the news, gossip was rampant that jfk was going to be hit on the tour to Texas, the secret was out, many knew of it, then the but comes to the front again, nothing was done and even though he himself and those closest around him were very aware, neither did he nor they..do a thing to avert such...as has been said at times, was it a death wish ?? or simply, was it meant to be. all preplanned out within his life's cycle...his ''i have a rendevous with death'' poem one of his favourites, which he had Jackie read to him often,also makes us ponder his thoughts...thanks dave take care, very interesting b..

Excerpt from the article Bernice posted:

....The neighborhood around 10th and Patton will soon have few physical ties to 1963. Homes have been built there in recent years. And the Dallas school district is clearing land for a new Adamson High School. "There's not going to be any historical footprint to remember that time," Rookstool said. "With people dying and everything changing [in the area], a marker would be a fantastic thing."

The WFAA news video shows just how much the neighborhood has changed: http://www.wfaa.com/...-110507339.html

Such a long time ago.....

yes so many years ago, that have flown, wherever did they go so quickly. here are a few photos of the area, as it was in 1963, there are others as well, it is well documented in that way, as some other areas were not,during the weeks months that followed.

thank you michael, a marker would make it much easier for the visitors to the city conferences and such to find,on their own, but i certainly hope on such they will use the word alleged before lhos name...for years they have had the bad habit of using the assassin...which has never been proven...imo....take care b

kATHY I DID MAKE A SHORT REPLY IN THE OTHER THREAD YOU WERE ACTIVE IN...the interview went smoothly nothing new, except several times they stated Jeb will not be running for the Presidency, they loved jrs new book, barbara the Oatmeal Lady ditzed palin, saying she once sat beside her, thought she was beautiful, she loves Alaska and should stay there. the conversation was mainly about the family and their relationships, they touched on the death of their 4 year old daughter robin, of leukemia years ago, because some family mentions are in the book, so those subjects were brought up by king,the assassination, of course was not brought into the discussion, i admit i had not seen them in quite sometime..they looked well, and that is about all i can recall now...b

http://blog.washingt...bob_ames_t.html

thank you..

http://stamperdad.wordpress.com/2010/11/23/the-kennedy-detail-inaccuracy-perpetuated/ B

first poster...b

for the 8 part series the kennedy's ...

http://www.hollywood...-kennedys-48075

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/poster-katie-holmes-jackie-kennedys-48075

FORT MYERS, Fla-- It's been 47 years since President John F. Kennedy was shot and killed in Dallas, Texas. A local man played a part in that fateful day. Jim Sibert was an FBI agent based in Maryland and was ordered to attend President Kennedy's autopsy. It's a day Sibert hasn't been able to forget.

Sibert's life changed on November 22, 1963.

"I've never had nightmares. But I can still visualize the wounds," said Sibert, "It was that bad."

Sibert and another field agent were assigned to attend President John F. Kennedy's autopsy after his assassination.

"The president-- when he was laid out there on the autopsy table-- just think of all that information that went into that brain. And here, it's all obliterated by this terrific head wound that killed him," said Sibert.

Sibert documented everything that happened in the autopsy.

"You've got a job to do and you just don't realize at the time," Sibert recalled about the experience, "I didn't realize that I was going to spend 47 years answering authors, giving depositions, taking phones calls."

For the last 47 years, Sibert has been bombarded with requests for interviews--fielding questions about what happened. Especially concerning the "single bullet" theory that a single bullet hit President Kennedy from behind, traveled through his neck, then hit Texas Governor John Connally. Connally was sitting in front of Kennedy in the car.

"I won't say that there was or was not a conspiracy, but i definitely don't accept the single bullet theory," said Sibert.

Sibert hopes that one day, history will remember him kindly.

"This was something I didn't anticipate. When I went into work at 7:30. And that it was something you didn't have time to do much preparation for or anything. It was another case you were assigned to. I did the best that I possibly could and I hope what I did would be of some influence, and be accepted," said Sibert.

below jim showing william law the size of the wound during their interview..

Read more: http://www.winknews....ennedys-autopsy

here's more the same from :blink:the same, for a newspaper i would think they would know the word alleged...but...same old from the dallas news..

Move grows for memorial to Dallas officer killed by Oswald after JFK assassination

06:43 AM CST on Tuesday, November 23, 2010

By ROY APPLETON / The Dallas Morning News

rappleton@dallasnews.com Forty-seven years after Lee Harvey Oswald gunned down Dallas police Officer J.D. Tippit in north Oak Cliff, the talk is getting serious about establishing a permanent memorial to the time, place and man. Michael Amonett, president of the Old Oak Cliff Conservation League, says he has begun researching what's required to get a state historical marker placed near the shooting site on 10th Street east of Patton Avenue. Also Online More news, information about Oak Cliff

Blog: Oak Cliff

"He gave his life for his city and his country," Amonett said. "If not for him, they might not have caught" Oswald. The accused assassin of President John F. Kennedy was apprehended at the Texas Theatre after the Tippit shooting. "If we could get it done by the 50th anniversary [in 2013], that would be cool," he said. Farris Rookstool, an authority on the Kennedy assassination, said he would gladly help with the project. "I would see it as a wonderful gift to the memory of J.D. Tippit and the other officers who assisted on the case," said Rookstool, a former assassination records custodian for the FBI. The neighborhood around 10th and Patton will soon have few physical ties to 1963. Homes have been built there in recent years. And the Dallas school district is clearing land for a new Adamson High School. "There's not going to be any historical footprint to remember that time," Rookstool said. "With people dying and everything changing [in the area], a marker would be a fantastic thing." And Amonett said school property could be a good place to put one. Marie Tippit, the officer's widow, said she was approached about a marker not long after the shooting. She said she's not sure why the idea fizzled. "I think it would be a wonderful idea," she said. "It's a piece of history, and that's where he was killed, and there should be a marker there." http://www.dallasnew...n1.4b74270.html

b

47 years after JFK's assassination, crowds, theories gather at Dealey Plaza

''Some, though, just come to remember.''

12:00 AM CST on Tuesday, November 23, 2010

By ERINN CONNOR / The Dallas Morning News

econnor@dallasnews.com

You can always count on a few constants at Dealey Plaza on Nov. 22.

NATHAN HUNSINGER/DMNFabian Olguin told his children Fabian Jr., 9, and Emily, 9, about JFK's assassination. They were among the crowds Monday at Dealey Plaza.

People grinning for photos on the white X, the approximate spot on Elm Street where President John F. Kennedy was shot in 1963; visitors standing on the infamous grassy knoll; fingers pointing toward the so-called sniper's perch on the sixth floor of the old Texas School Book Depository.

But there are few constants when it comes to the theories surrounding JFK's assassination. No detail is too large or too small to bicker over. Everyone's got an opinion.

Those theorists were out in force again Monday, 47 years after the president's death, to argue and reargue their points.

"There are crowds here every year," said Anthony Caglia, who takes a day off work to come down to the plaza each year. "You get all these different stories and theories from all kinds of people."

''Some, though, just come to remember.''

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For Jim Stewart, walking on the grassy knoll was on his bucket list.

"I've just always been fascinated by it," said Stewart, who was visiting from Calgary. "I think so much of the United States would've been different if he lived."

Stewart, 55, said he remembers being herded into his elementary school's basement after the assassination and then being sent home and watching the aftermath on TV.

After making the trip to Dallas, Stewart said the scene was different than he imagined.

"Isn't there usually a moment of silence?" he asked, checking his cellphone clock.

That traditionally comes at 12:30 p.m. But during that time, John Judge was making a speech disputing the Warren Commission's assassination findings, which, among other things, concludes that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman.

Judge continued his speech until a young boy remarked, "That moment of silence was pretty loud."

Judge paused around 12:35 for a minute of quiet.

"This is a forum for crazies instead of reverence for what happened," Stewart said as he left the plaza. sorry bout him...b

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For 13 years, Paul Noble has made the trip from Mansfield to join the crowds at Dealey Plaza. What he enjoys most year after year is the amalgam of theories.

"I talk to all kinds of people," said Noble, 52, as a man wandered past with a T-shirt that read: "Who Killed JFK?"

"They have all kinds of theories – that Oswald did it alone, that it was Lyndon Johnson, the CIA , Fidel Castro. Lots of different ideas."

Noble was 5 when Kennedy was shot. He doesn't remember the assassination, but he recalls seeing Jack Ruby shoot Oswald on an old black-and-white TV.

He's been intrigued ever since.

"I'll come here every year until I die," said Noble. "I can't wait till the 50th anniversary. There'll be lots of things going on, probably thousands of people. Maybe even some celebrities."

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Standing near a portrait of Kennedy with six white carnations at the base, Tommy Sills still remembers that November day clearly.

He was 9 years old, standing with his father at the corner of Houston and Main streets. He had been allowed to leave school to watch the presidential motorcade.

Sills remembers the roar of the crowd as the car turned the corner,

"Then I thought I heard a motorcycle backfire and didn't think anything of it," said Sills, 57, of Irving. "But with the second shot, people started screaming and I watched the Secret Service agent crawling on the back of the limo."

Sills and his father left downtown right away. He said he had never seen his father that spooked. Curiously, as if nothing had happened, his dad dropped him back off at Otis Brown Elementary School in Irving.

Now a history teacher, Sills sometimes brings his students down to the plaza and gives them a firsthand lesson. "They always have a lot of questions," he said. "Mostly about conspiracies."

In the incredibly faux clueless, insensitive, and chutzpah category:

It wouldn't feel like the 47th anniversary without Larry King and his CNN handlers decision to air for the first time, tonight, an irrelevant brand spankin' new, canned interview with poppy and barb!

http://content.usato...alaska/1?csp=hf

http://www.businessi...ox-lady-2010-11

The audacity of our oppressors truly has no limits, the timing of the cablecast of this interview's debut is an affront to our sensibilities. All of the Kennedys are gone, now, so they offer us the "opportunity" to spend the evening of the anniversary of such a sad day in our history with THE bUSHES!

To the victors, continue to go the spoils.

I couldn't agree more. Up north I used to listen to Larry King when he had a radio interview show. Every Nov.22 his entire show would be about the Kennedy Assassination. He really was interested in it. Why the Bushes are going to be on I don't know. Maybe Larry King has no choice -- maybe CNN booked them. I hope he mentions President Kennedy to them.

I don't know if Geraldo is on or what time, but I'm tired of him protecting the assassins because as he said on his show Rivera Live on CNBC in 2001, "There was no conspiracy. Oswald killed Kennedy from behind and alone." Paraphrase. And it was apropos of nothing. He just came out and said it. The next week he announced he had a new job on Fox as Foreign Correspondent. This was right after 9/11.

Kathy C

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A couple of things, Kathy: I always read and like your postings because I believe you take a scalpel to things, with expertise. Larry King has always been a big favorite of mine because of his old radio show on Westwood one. I worked in radio and very much admired him because he could draw out anyone on the air and they all seemed to like him, which he used to get them to open up. Unfortunately, there is the truism, as you put it: 'Maybe Larry King has no choice -- maybe CNN booked them.' That is in the category of "ya think?"

Also, I have been an admirer of Geraldo, often reluctantly, for a long time. When I lived in New York in the early Seventies I watched him on WABC and it was clear that he was trying to make a name for himself with his looks and his chutzpah...but he had substance as well. He quite recently has come around on 911 as an inside job - and there is video on youtube to prove it - at least in terms of the Building 7 imbroglio. He strikes me as a decent and open-minded person, unlike so many dogmatic people we both loathe.

By the way, it was on that old Larry King radio show, on the 10th anniversary of Nixon's resignation, that he had Fred Thompson and Sam Dash as part of the program, for a couple of hours. It was on that broadcast - to which no one else listened, evidently, that Sam Dash said he believed Deep Throat was a composite.

Hang in there. We will win.

Happy Thanksgiving,

JG

:Hi Dean; apparently your thread has now definitely been diverted.. sorry bout that .. .what was new on the old worn out telly interview scene?well, not much but george jrs parents, of course do like his book and mom :)the ''oatmeal lady'' did zing palin...which will get the most hype, i figure...b

http://www.businessi...ox-lady-2010-11

:)jim marrs at the Carousel... ...the College Student... b

below lho and marguerite's grave on the left unmarked still as far as i know.and lho's grave tended to by marguerite...the original stone which stated his full name and dates was stolen in 63 and replaced by ROSEHILL..

http://www.answers.c...e-harvey-oswald

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:)jim marrs at the Carousel... ...the College Student... b

http://dfw.cbslocal....er-jfk-mystery/#

http://www.pbase.com/image/41879264

Larry did ask more than once, IF jeb would be running in 2012..both bushs said NO more than once, it was very little about politics and more about family relations, different...the ss program was not shown up here, no surprise, it will be eventually...when old and decrepit...

a couple for memories....best b...

In the incredibly faux clueless, insensitive, and chutzpah category:

It wouldn't feel like the 47th anniversary without Larry King and his CNN handlers decision to air for the first time, tonight, an irrelevant brand spankin' new, canned interview with poppy and barb!

Hm, think King will ask Poppy Bush some probing questions about his actions in November '63?

Need I even wonder?

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/North-Texan-who-rushed-to-aid-of-officer-shot-by-Lee-Harvey-Oswald-speaks-out-109376099.html

b

Bill speaking only for myself, as far as those photo frames , the one of Sitzman being interviewed after,and those of her seen on the sidewalk in front of the tsbd after, were not available a few years ago,

I posted the Sitzman images to David Healy many years ago when he and I were going back and forth about him saying there was not any recognizable images of Zapruder or Sitzman even being in the plaza on the day of the assassination. The gif of her turning around and of her being interviewed - I posted at that time. It was a later date that I think Robin showed Sitzman in front of the TSBD when a discussion was going on about whether Sitzman wore heels that day or not.

Bill

bill; i was not there during that discussion or the posting of said photos for david, many years ago, i imagine i wasn't there at that time, what i have and have seen as i mentioned have been from and since robin posted them..yes i recall the sitzman heels thread which still has not been proven one way or tother,imo one day a photo showing her complete foot,shoe showing that heel will be found, but being a woman, i still say no woman ran up and down once or more than once on that grassy knoll in high heel shoes as she mentioned, unless she wanted a tumble or a possible broken neck, or broken something or tother, we shall pick that one up when the photo is found, hopefully....thanks for the reply b:D

Robin ; here are a few more, some oddities, Haygood checking out the sewer drain on elm was from research that greg burnham,has posted on his site, the one with a h.initials was done by alan healy, thanks fellas,they may be of some help...the.haygood is by walt rollins...i was going to post the schematics, thanks robin..for doing so...best..b

Thanks a lot Bernice fo all theses nice images.

It can't be all correct. Let us call it work in progress.

My dear sincerely Lady

Martin

your very welcome, some may be of help, these are from the research of some other serious reseachers, found in the dungeon...not lost..and not eaten...by the Gremlin, not yet... but sorry i have no dates for them...b

Robin ; here are a few more, some oddities, Haygood checking out the sewer drain on elm was from research that greg burnham,has posted on his site, the one with a h.initials was done by alan healy, thanks fellas,they may be of some help...the.haygood is by walt rollins...i was going to post the schematics, thanks robin..for doing so...best.:... and if they had worn different coloured helmets say, then there would have been no problem, eh.!!.. .b

Officer Martin in Bell........b

vince palamara on the Dallas motorcycle escort for jfk;...http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/palamara/motorcycles.html

Below Chaney in Altgens...b

Good thread Robin...b...below chaney in skaggs...

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mod please delete subject heading...thanks