Ray Mitcham

"The official autopsy photos of the back of the head show no wound as described by nearly thirty witnesses. Where is the gaping hole, three or more inches in diameter, ragged edged, “the size of a baseball” or “of a small orange”? Saundra Spencer developed autopsy photos of the rear of the head showing a ragged hole. James Sibert, an FBI agent who was an arm’s length away, saw a large bloody cavity AFTER the photos had been taken."

And some people still believe that the official autopsy photos are genuine.

Nurse Doris Nelson

She was an ER Supervisor in 1963, later became the nursing supervisor of Parkland Hospital. She assisted in treating the President and helped in the preparation of the body for the casket. In the revised addition of High Treason, Harrison Livingstone writes “Nurse Nelson drew a picture of the head wound, mostly in the parietal area, but well towards the rear of the head(parietal/occipital). Her drawing conflicts strongly with the official autopsy photograph.

When she saw the picture, she said immediately “It’s not true. There wasn’t even hair back there. It was blown away. All that area was blown out"

PAUL PETERS, MD:"...I noticed that there was a large defect in the occiput...It seemed to me that in the right occipitalparietal area that there was a large defect." (WC-V6:71)

"The X rays of President Kennedy's skull, which we privileged to see later, showed dramatically how large the fragmentation of the skull was and was easily compatible with what Bob saw originally. There was a big hunk of bone sticking up there in the parietal....

I thought just exactly what Bob, did. They were probably making a series of pictures and

they had just pulled that flap back up there to cover it up and took a picture of that to show the head with the flap restored, so to speak, for whatever reason. I'm sure there were many other pictures that were made at the same time.

...I think that [McClelland's drawing] pretty much corresponds to what I said, occipitoparietal. It looks a little further down in the occiput in this picture, I think, but it was pretty far posteriorly because you had to be able to see the cerebellum -- " (Peters, ARRB Parkland doctors interview)

For what it's worth, Don, I agree with the statement.

What's the difference, Ray? We've got the info on videotape (live on TV) from Bill Newman prior

to 1 PM on Nov. 22. You can't get much better "testimony" than that.

David, I agree with you on this one, especially as Bill Newman is a firm witness to the limo stop, which implies the extant Z-film is worthless. Glad we both like Newman. Best to you Daniel

No. YOU say he saw the blood and gore in the temple. He said he saw the shot HIT the temple. You are speculating. As I said earlier, he was there, you weren't.

Just because you say he was mistaken means chicken s*it. That is just your opinion. I'd rather go with the evidence.

Just to repeat what he sadi in 2003

"What we had to say that day is more important than what we might say in an interview 40 years later."

I tend to believe the Altoona Mirror (and a few others) were in error: http://surveys.ap.org/

Odd, to say the least.

I've mailed AP asking them for the results of their April poll on the assassination. No reply so far.

DVP "And we know that Bill Newman was not describing the "Knoll" as a shooting source. So what difference does it make that Bill never testified?"

Complete rubbish. Newman actually said the knoll behind him. Listen carefully to the video, David.

DVP "Or did you just feel like the WC was overdue for another jab from a CTer?"

What a poor comment.

I notice you say nothing about Newman saying that the bullet hit JFK in the temple. Then again, you must be right as you weren't there and he was.

I wonder why as the closest member of the public to the shooting of JFK he was never called to testify by the Warren Commission.

Strange that.

No, David, it means only that YOU think he was wrong.

As he said in the 2003 interview that the shot that came from behind him was "a bit closer to the picket fence than the TSBD"

He also said "What we had to say that day is more important than what we might say in an interview 40 years later."

He said in 1963 that the bullet hit JFK in the temple.

"William Newman is on record (within 25 minutes of the assassination) saying that he thought there were TWO shots, with both of those shots coming from "behind" him from the direction of the "garden" behind him, which is not the picket fence area (like it or not).

That's what I state he said.

Nor is it from the direction of the TSDB. (like it or not)

DVB "And do you REALLY think that Bill Newman could physically SEE the bullet (in flight!) as it zoomed into JFK's head (from whatever direction it came from)?

Where did I say he saw the bullet?

So you think his interview in 2003 was more likley to be correct than the interview on the day of the assassination?

Newman "the gun shot apparently from behind us, hit the President in the side of he temple."

Interviewer"Do you think the first gunshot came from behind you too?"

Newman "I think it came from the same location er apparently back up on the er..knoll.. I don't know what you call it."

...

Interviewer "Do you think the shot came from up on top of the viaduct toward the President. is that correct"

Newman "Yes sir, ..No, No,not on the viaduct itself, but on top of the hill or the mound of ground [or] a garden"

"The gun shot hit him in the temple."

from the hill or mound behind him.

Which part of the above, do you not understand, David?

Edit spelling.

So you agree with Newman that the shot came from behind him up on the Knoll, and hit him in the temple, David? First video (1.24).

Wow!

Mike, it seems appropriate that the original John Mytton's nickname was "Mad Jack"

Thanks, Bernice. Incidentally the link doesn't work for me.

Thanks, Michael, that makes the drawing much clearer. Pity we don't have a photograph.

How did Brennan know that the shooter was about 5"10 tall and 160/170 lbs, when the shooter was on his knees behind the snipers nest?

Could Perry's tracheotomy have been extended at Walter Reed before the grey casket was delivered to Bethesda?

But was this for the BBC or some other British channel?

Jim It was made by Witness Productions Inc. for the BBC. Summers was, as Josh said, the producer.

Thanks, David.

Is there a photo or layout drawing of the bethesda autopsy room circa 1963 available anywhere?

A better photo with more pixels might clear up the matter. Are we seeing buttons or buttonholes on the portion of jacket covering “Sturges’” face? Buttonholes on men’s suit jackets are on the wearer’s left, and I think I’m seeing buttonholes.

Men that part their hair usually do so on the left. What are we seeing here?

I don’t know if this is a sartorial custom, but all the striped ties in my closet have the stripe descending from the wearer’s right to left, just as the ties are doing on the first two men on the right.

However, the last man on the left also appears to be wearing his watch on his right wrist (possibly the fist man on the left as well).

Too bad no one seems to be wearing a handkerchief in his suit pocket.

Good spot about the striped ties, Tom. In the U.K. stripes on ties slope from the left shoulder to the right hip. In the U.S. they slope the opposite way to distinguish from the "regimental" slope of the Brits. I also agree that what we can see are button holes which again are on the left side of the jacket. So i would say that the photo hasn't been flipped.

Robin, just seen what you posted on the JFK Assassination Forum. Thanks for your input and the above.

I'm sure you want to totally ignore the BEST evidence of Oswald's guilt in the Tippit murder, don't you David? -- I.E., those pesky bullet shells from Oswald's very own gun.

Just pretend ALL FOUR of those shells were planted, David. I'm used to hearing that B.S.

David, Mrs Markham said that only three shots were fired. Where did the fourth shell come from.

Great scan, Bob. I have been discussing on another forum the fact that I believe you can see the breast pocket in that scan. to the right of the white stripe to the right of the fastened button, there are what appears to be vertical stitches. Above the white horizontal stripe above the fastened button, is narrow red stripe at the top of the pocket exactly where the white vertical stripes "kink". If it is the pocket it detroys the argument that it wasn't the shirt Lovelady wore on 22/11.

I wonder if other people agree with my interpretation (or am I starting to suffer from Cinque's disease! )