Paul Trejo

Hi Jason, Great work on Bernie Weissman. Your intuition about the CUSA boys being mainly useful "idiots" is right on. The notable exception is Larrie Schmidt. But back to Bernie. I was never able to contact him, personally, but Gayle Nix Jackson contacted him last year in connection with her new book, Pieces of the Puzzle. (2018) He added little, she told me, to his WC testimony. My perception of Bernie is similar to yours, especially your label of Bernie as an order place and bagman. Jerry Rose read too much into the scenario. "Hair-brained drunken bar idea" aptly describes CUSA for all of these US Army boys, aside from Larrie and Bernie. Larrie Schmidt was very much the leader, and Bernie was very much the follower in CUSA. Bernie Weissman wants to ensure that Jewish people don't get shortchanged in this beer drinking fantasy. The best summary of this entire episode of CUSA is still the LIFE Magazine article of January 1964 (IIRC) which consists of a ling interview of Larrie Schmidt. I'll try to find it tonight to post it. Bernie Weissman is indeed a small fry in the scenario, yet his WC testimony provided solid clues about the role of General Walker and his chapter of the JBS in Dallas in the JFK Assassination. Bernie Weissman directly links the WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK poster to the very station wagon owned by General Walker. This was eyesight testimony, and it was not contested by the WC attorneys. It wraps up the connection, IMHO. One thing is clear to me regarding CUSA -- they had no relationship with General Walker's Pro-Blue organization in Germany. CUSA was 100 percent the brainchild of Larrie Schmidt. The inspiration came immediately after the publication of the famous political treatise, Conscience of a Conservative, by Barry Goldwater. It was required reading for all CUSA members, but evidently only Larrie and Bernie read it. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, That's my reading, also. Adlai Stevenson did not know that General Walker was behind the attacks on him. I'm surprised that Adlai's staff didn't bother to read the Dallas newspapers and magazines following the attacks -- but obviously they didn't. They trusted the local police to sort out the "troublemakers." That was a big mistake. They had no clue -- and Washington DC had no clue -- and the USA had no clue outside Dallas -- that General Walker had the run of Dallas and could do anything he wanted to do -- with the blessing of oil billionaire H.L. Hunt. As for Dallas ATF agent Frank Ellsworth, he knew about Walker and the Minutemen, too, probably from James Hosty himself. So, why didn't Frank tell the Secret Service? The answer is clear when we go back 55 years in time, to the culture of the day, when there was no Email, there were no personal computers, and the high-tech of the day was a local newspaper and a telephone booth. In those days, in business and in government, everything went by SOP (standard operating procedure). You didn't break that. You didn't go around people. You didn't go over people's heads. It was bad form. You could get fired for that -- or at minimum lose your reputation and the trust of people you depend upon. So, Frank Ellsworth (who in my opinion was innocent of any JFK plot) sincerely trusted Dallas FBI agent James Hosty to do the right thing. The SOP in 1963 was that the Washington DC Secret Service would send a teletype to the Dallas FBI and advise that they were planning to bring the US President to Dallas, so please submit the names of any dangerous people in the town. That was it. That was the whole SOP. It had worked for generations. It never broke down. Until Dallas, 1963. It would have worked, too, IMHO -- if only James Hosty and Forrest Sorrels had told the truth -- instead of selling out JFK to General Walker and his Minutemen. All best, --Paul

Jason, These FBI documents are getting warmer, but are still fairly cold regarding the JFK Assassination and General Walker. 1. General Walker had hundreds of thousands of fans coast to coast. The Major Media recognized this, as with this Newsweek cover: Walker was considered so powerful a speaker (to the Choir) that a famous movie was made about him -- namely -- Seven Days in May -- which JFK and RFK liked so well, that they gave concessions to the producers to use the White House for some scenes. JFK and RFK were so worried about Ex-General Walker in early 1962, that when Walker appeared before the Senate Subcommittee on Military Preparedness in April, 1962, that JFK and RFK personally ordered no television or radio be allowed in the Senate room. (They later realized that they made a mistake, because Walker made a jackass of himself in those hearings. Walker could speak to the Choir, but not under cross-examination.) The point is that we today have tremendous difficulty grasping how famous General Walker was in 1962. This was his glory year. He could have had the world, if he played his cards right. His first step was Texas Governor, if he could take it. Chances are, if he had listened better to HL Hunt, he could have taken the office. Basically, Walker hardly campaigned at all! He didn't even write a platform! When the press asked him, "What is your platform, General?" Walker replied, "The State Constitution of Texas," and left it at that. So, he was a famous figure -- he was a famous speaker -- he thrilled his crowds, according to many writers. (He spoke something like Rush Limbaugh spoke during the Obama Administration.) Yet he was not a well-read politician. He was a General, and so he simply expected to be taken at his word. Oh, well. 2. The FBI was tracking General Walker very closely -- but they also relied on their local FBI offices. J. Edgar Hoover had a lot of good data from Louisiana and Mississippi -- but when it came to Texas. Hoover had less data -- this is (IMHO) because James Hosty had TURNED in 1962, and had begun to support General Walker himself. So did Forrest Sorrels. Dallas had a culture of Right-wing activity, and although it was illegal for Federal agents to join Radical Right groups that spoke about taking over the US Government -- the atmosphere in Dallas was intoxicating, evidently. James Hosty kept crucial data about General Walker away from the FBI Director. Upon reflection -- this contradicts my old belief, that FBI records will reflect my CT. Insofar as James Hosty withheld, or even destroyed, crucial information about General Walker in Dallas, then I may be waiting in vain to find any smoking gun within FBI documents by the FBI about General Walker. So, this is painful, but instructive for me. 3. Edwin Walker still thinks he has a chance in US Politics -- far beyond his useful years. He thinks a great deal of himself. By 1970 he is still sending letters to Senators and Presidents -- long after they have come to think of him as a "crazy old coot." 4. Edwin Walker sending advice to Richard Nixon is like a great-grandfather sending his great-grandson advice in college. Walker never knew when to quit. Why not? Because he was disoriented starting with Little Rock Arkansas in 1959, when he joined the John Birch Society, soon after it was formed. We must remember that Walker was gay all his life -- and yet he rose to the office of US Army General. This means that if he was in the closet throughout his military career (which he was) that he was even MORE in the closet after he became a General. Walker wanted to quit the US Military in 1959 -- but Ike denied his request and moved Walker to Germany. Walker was a US officer, so he followed orders as usual. The real problem with Germany was the Overseas Weekly newspaper guys needling Walker because he was gay. They never printed it, but they continually threatened to do that by their behavior and jeers. Germany was a living nightmare for Walker (except on the weekends). Why didn't Walker just Retire from the US Army, and move to Germany where he could come out of the closet? That's a mystery. He should have done that. Anyway, he was forced to give up his post by the PENTAGON, not by JFK. Walker started a shore flap on the Berlin border, and that was stupid. The Pentagon could not trust that sort of poor judgment so close to the Berlin wall. Walker was out. Walker could have Retired at that point, and then come out of the closet there in gay-friendly Germany. But he didn't. Instead -- and nobody can explain this -- he RESIGNED from the Army, which means he gave up his 30 year Army Pension. What the heck? There was no good reason for that. Walker's judgment had become impaired, IMHO, by four decades in the closet. He ran for Texas Governor in 1962, on the dime of HL Hunt. There were politicians in Washington who vowed to back him if he ran on the Republican Ticket, which even in those days was gaining the Conservative vote. Walker decided that a Dixiecrat style Democrat was what he wanted to be. Then, Walker completely make a fool of himself before the Senate Subcommittee in April 1962. He said he expected some great General (like MacArthur) to run to his side -- but not a single one did. He decided to start a massive race riot at Ole Miss in September, 1962, against the advice of HL Hunt, and even against the advice of Robert Welch, the leader of the John Birch Society. In his Grand Jury transcripts, still stored at UT Austin, he expressed joy at leading the students to riot against the Federal Troops that JFK sent to defend James Meredith's right to go to school there. The students rushed to him for advice, and he expressed elation because of the battle. Frankly -- after he left the US Army, Walker showed an increasing string of bad decisions. He was a nut by many measures. Yet he was still shrewd as a jungle lion when he came to fighting -- and he could still lead troops to battle. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, What is your your source for your claim that "Adlai Stevenson personally notified Kennedy that General Walker's capacity for violence was already apparent?" I'm aware that Adlai Stevenson personally warned Kennedy not to go Dallas because of the spitting incident -- however, I'm unaware that Adlai Stevenson had any clue that General Walker was behind those Dallas attacks. (A) Walker's modus operandi -- as a former US General -- was to make plans and instruct his troops -- and then let the troops complete the mission. Walker was not near the Dallas Memorial Auditorium on the night of the Adlai humiliation. As Larrie Schmidt told me, however, Walker organized and motivated all the players. While it was fairly common knowledge in Dallas that General Walker was the organizer of the Adlai humiliation, Adlai and his entourage were not from Dallas, nor did they have any friends in Dallas outside of the left-wing. Nobody in Dallas was going to share inside information with them. (B ) Also, General Walker cannot be called a conservative. He was a Radical. He advocated the overthrow of the Federal Government -- if not by elections, then by violence. Though General Walker was very closely watched by the FBI in Washington DC, as you say, you have also amply shown, Jason, that General Walker and his Dallas Minutemen were PROTECTED by James Hosty and Forrest Sorrels from detection by the Washington DC boys. (C) I maintain that the JFK murder (along with its LHO murder subplot) and the JFK Cover-up were two different plots, conducted by two different groups who were really at cross-purposes. The JFK Kill-Team wanted to blame all Communists. The JFK Cover-up Team wanted to calm the USA with a Lone Nut theory. (C.1) In my reading, the only reason that Hosty and Sorrels lied to the PRS about the non-existence of Radical Right activity in Dallas was to manipulate the Washington DC Secret Service PRS so that they would not send monitors to Dallas to watch the Radical Right. The PRS would have done a great job, and foiled the JFK Assassination. I see no other reason. Not fear, not worry, not anxiety. Their lie to the PRS was strictly intended to assassinate JFK. Period. That's my reading. (C.2) I find no evidence that the DPD was trying to throw blame onto the Feds until after the DPD was forced to accept the Lone Nut theory of the JFK murder. The DPD leadership, working with General Walker and other Radical Right in Dallas, had planned to blame the Communists for the JFK murder. But when the Washington DC JFK Cover-up unexpectedly took over, the DPD worried that they might take all the blame. So, in reaction to that, they began to blame the FBI. We see that in two phases: (i) the leak of Revill's memo to the WC; and (ii) the news from Waggoner Carr and Henry Wade to Earl Warren that Lee Harvey Oswald had an official FBI informant number. However -- these points were carefully swept under the rug by the Warren Commission, because there was no need for Dallas to panic. Dallas would not be blamed under any circumstances, in the interest of National Security during the Cold War. Dallas eventually calmed down. I do agree with you, Jason, that the worry of Dallas and their blaming of the FBI at the last minute betrays their collective sense of guilt for the JFK Assassination. According to your Numbered Points: 1. Dallas FBI agent James Hosty in his book, Axxignment Oswald (1996) claims that he worked closely with ATF Agent Frank Ellsworth, and agreed with Frank's suspicion of General Walker and the Dallas Minutemen. 1.1. Actually, however, Ellsworth reported this to the Warren Commission, while James Hosty repeated to the Warren Commission the lies he told the PRS, namely, that he knew of nobody in Dallas who was dangerous. So, we have James Hosty on pejury, by my reading. 2. I see no reason to believe that James Hosty would finger the DPD in a Radical Right Conspiracy. He is lying about his "liberal Catholic" love of JFK in his book -- he had secretly TURNED against JFK by his contagion with the Birchers in Dallas. 2.1. Remember that James Hosty co-wrote this book with his son -- and I feel confident that he always kept the truth of his treason away from his son. His son probably asked Hosty the most difficult questions -- which may explain why it took 3 decades for this book to appear. 2.2. In my reading, the main reason that Oswald was tagged as the JFK Patsy was due to the role of Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) in the Walker shooting on April 10, 1963. I have not seen any material evidence to move me from that position. I am open to new evidence. 2.2.1. Even if that analysis is incorrect, I still maintain that General Walker refused to tolerate that a Marine "defector" to Russia came back to Dallas with a Russian bride, to live less than 10 miles from his own home. 2.2.2. I think this was probably a distinct motive for General Walker to carefully and painstakingly pin LHO for the JFK Assassination. 3. It is not only James Hosty who defined a presidential threat as "a specific known plan to cause harm." That was the written definition by the Secret Service PRS. 3.1. Hosty was singing to the Warren Commission. This was his excuse for not naming ANYONE to the Secret Service PRS as dangerous in Dallas. 3.2. Yet in his book, Axxignment Oswald (1996), Hosty boldly proclaims the danger of LHO in Dallas, and how he knew it for a long time (exactly as he had boasted to DPD Lieutenant Jack Revill). 4. James Hosty lets his hair down in his book, Axxignment Oswald, and admits that he suspected LHO since October, 1963. He also blames the FBI for not taking his warnings seriously. 4.1. In his book, James Hosty shows that his emotions harmonize most fully with those of General Walker. The US Government is riddled with Communist sympathizers! This is a subtheme of his book. 4.2. In that same subtheme, Hosty suspects the Warren Commission of being part and parcel of a corrupt Washington DC Establishment. This included the Supreme Court Chief Justice -- Earl Warren. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Excellent summary of WC witness Robert Klause, the printer for the "WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK" handbill, thousands of which littered the streets of Dallas starting two days before JFK was killed in Dallas. It is amazing to me that the Dallas FBI and the Dallas Secret Service failed to identify the origins of this "WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK" handbill for the Washington DC Protective Research Section (PRS) of the Secret Service in the days before the JFK visit to Dallas. This, in my humble opinion, is the center of the JFK Conspiracy -- namely, two key Dallas Officials, FBI agent James Hosty, and Secret Service agent Forrest Sorrels, refused to tell the truth in their reports to the PRS. Both told the PRS that they did not know the origins of this handbill, and both told the PRS that there were no dangerous people in Dallas to visit, warn or watch. How, then, did the FBI learn about this witness, Robert Klause, in order for the WC to subpoena him? We learn from Robert Klause that Robert Alan Surrey -- the President of General Walker's business, the American Eagle Publishing Company, was the original source of the photo and the text for this "WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK" handbill. How was that information unavailable to Dallas FBI agent James Hosty in November, 1963? This is especially interesting to me in light of James Hosty's admission on page 4 of his book, Axxignment Oswald (1996) that his main job in Dallas in 1963 was to track "General Walker and his Minutemen" in Dallas. Penn Jones Jr., also reported in his series, Forgive My Grief (1964-1965) that James Hosty and Robert Alan Surrey had been bridge partners for years. If so, then it was impossible for James Hosty to be ignorant that Surrey was the President of General Walker's publishing company. It would have been impossible for James Hosty to avoid the suspicion that Surrey was the author of that handbill. So -- as you wondered, Jason, I also wonder -- why does the WC toss the US public this softball, insofar as they are committed to the Lone Nut theory of the JFK Assassination? Now, as you have noted before, Jason, the WC testimony of Robert Alan Surrey is the only testimony in which a witness pleads the 5th Amendment. Also, Surrey pleads the 5th Amendment only in connection with his "WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK" handbill. Also, Surrey pleads the 5th Amendment more than a dozen times in his WC testimony. Why is Surrey so hostile to the WC with regard to this handbill? In my reading, it is because this is the core of the JFK plot. In a surprising change of focus, the WC asks Robert Klause if he knows General Edwin Walker. Klause, in my reading, seems genuinely rattled, and claims that he doesn't -- that Robert Alan Surrey was his only contact. I think Klause is hiding the truth here. Klause also claimed that he originally lied to the Secret Service to protect his parents, whom he claims were unaware of his actions. I think Klause is hiding the truth here, also. In my opinion, Klause is protecting his parents -- but also protecting General Walker -- and furthermore, it is in protecting General Walker that Klause is protecting his parents. Given this, I surmise that Klause was a right-winger (of course he read this handbill) and that his parents were also right-wingers, and that they were also members of the "Friends of Walker" organization. Klause lied when he said his parents didn't know about this printing job (thus he waffles about the equipment he used). Klause's parents not only knew, they approved and probably helped with the job. Klause protected his parents as well as General Walker (as a group) from association with this, "WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK" handbill. In my opinion, this "WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK" reveals the open and direct motive for the JFK Assassination in Dallas. JFK was executed for treason by this Dallas Radical Right tribunal. Now, in 1964, shortly after the JFK Assassination, General Walker and Robert Surrey produced a book; a digest of Dallas Morning News and Dallas Times Herald newspaper clippings about JFK from November and December 1963. The nature of their politics explains the content of this book -- those newspaper clippings were solely and only clippings that speculated about a Communist Oswald. This was precisely what Walker and Surrey were obsessed to promote. What questions would the Warren Commission "not see fit to answer?" Clearly, Walker's and Surrey;s own questions -- namely, about their allegations of a Communist Plot to assassinate JFK, and about their allegations of the Communist ties of Lee Harvey Oswald. This was the content of their book. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, 1. To a marked degree the JFK plotters were lucky, because they boldly went forth with a simple plan. They were surrounded by bystanders (whom they didn't respect) and by visitors from Washington DC (whom they didn't respect). *** Yet they were also bold and self-righteous. Like Confederate soldiers, they weren't going to take any guff from those Damn Yankees. *** They also knew Dallas like the backs of their hands, and Dealey Plaza especially. This was home turf for the town Sheriff. *** It was this Confederate flag righteousness, ultimately, that led them forward. Anticommunism was only a foil for many of them. *** Walt Brown on the other hand, says that the Dallas Police and Deputies did a great job overall, despite a few errors here and there. Their "crazy like a fox" attitude won the day. 2. Walker of course got personal revenge against JFK and RFK. *** But Walker also proposed (IMHO) an attractive plan for his followers. If the Communists could be blamed for the murder of JFK, then the USA might be inspired to invade Cuba and kill Fidel Castro. **** It may be difficult to imagine that in 1963 this was a regular dream of many Americans. Yet it was, and Walker promised to make that dream come true. **** In my reading, the first and foremost goal of General Walker was personal revenge on JFK. That explains the open terror. **** The secondary goal of Walker, namely, the invasion of Cuba and the overthrow of Fidel Castro, was for most of his followers, the main goal that they were working for. (This is why a False Flag theory of the JFK murder, as proposed by Sheriff Bill Decker to Gareth Wean, is becoming more plausible to me.) 3. I expect to find FBI documents that bluntly and flatly demonstrate the following: *** That Dallas FBI agent James Hosty had a symbiotic political relationship with General Edwin Walker in Dallas. *** That Dallas Secret Service agent Forrest Sorrels had a symbiotic political relationship with General Edwin Walker in Dallas. *** That through his HL Hunt-sponsored chapter of the John Birch Society in Dallas, General Walker held the loyalty of many high-ranking Dallas Officials. *** Those officials would include (but not limited to) Dallas Mayor Earl Cabell; Dallas District Attorney Henry Wade; Dallas USPD Inspector Harry Holmes; Dallas Sheriff Bill Decker; DPD Chief Jesse Curry; DPD Captain Will Fritz; *** Lower ranking members among Dallas Police and Deputies were also involved in the "Friends of Walker" and "Minutemen" organizations that Walker ran. *** "Friends of Walker" newsletters (1961-1968) in the garages of Texas public, will begin to emerge from family archives. *** Confessions by the children of former employers of Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall, that Lee Harvey Oswald made his Backyard Photographs at JCS. *** Confessions by the children of former Dallas Police and Deputies, that reveal direct knowledge of a Dallas plot against JFK in Dallas. *** Further FOIA releases of FBI material that confirm a Dallas Radical Right plot against JFK. *** The place to start digging, IMHO, would be the section of the single-volume Warren Report that catalogues the Dallas Radical Right. The names in that section offer the names of persons of interest in FBI documents that will simply and honestly admit that Dallas killed JFK. *** The historical record is there. Earl Warren said it would be preserved, and I believe him. The delay today, IMHO, is that researchers are still bothering with CIA records -- which will have nothing to offer. *** For the JFK Assassination,. the FBI was aware of everything; the CIA was aware of almost nothing. All best, --Paul

Paul B., DPD Captain W.R. Westbrook gave WC testimony. He worked as a DPD Personnel Officer. Jason Ward did cover his WC testimony here. Westbrook drove to the TSBD after he sent all his available men there. He was later than others, and saw basically nothing to report. Then he heard about the Tippit shooting, and he drove to Oak Cliff with DPD Sergeant R.D. Stringer, and FBI agent Bob Barrett. They arrived after many others had already left, and they saw little. They talked to a female witness, but Westbrook did not remember any details or even her name. They basically followed the DPD crowd to the Texas Theater. Westbrook was in the arresting party - mainly as an observer. At the DPD station he remembered the mug shot of LHO, and little else. Although I have suspicions about Westbrook and many other DPD Officers, there is very little to go on, as you say. Where would anybody find more material evidence? Would you be willing to find some biographical data? DPD Sergeant Gerald Hill also gave WC testimony. He also worked as a DPD Personnel Officer -- on 11/22/1963. Jason Ward did cover his WC testimony here. Where would anybody find more material evidence? Would you be willing to find some biographical data? DPD officer Kenneth Croy also gave WC testimony. The WC attorneys mainly asked him how Jack Ruby got into the DPD station without any DPD Officers noticing. His testimony is weak and suspicious to me. I have wanted to delay research into the killing of LHO, however, rather than the killing of JFK. I consider these to be two separate plots (though by the same people). Yet getting DPD cops to support the killing of LHO was possibly easier -- because at this point LHO was considered a "cop killer" and so recruiting DPD cops in that cause would have been easier -- and those recruits would not necessarily be involved (or care) about the JFK Assassination plot. Regards, --Paul Trejo

Jason, You've done some excellent work with your analysis of the WC testimony of the Dallas Police and Deputies. You obviously have a firm grasp of the situation there. Let's continue with the WC testimony, but this time, let's focus on the Radical Right -- namely, everybody connected with General Walker and the John Birch Society in Dallas. Unfortunately, the WC did not subpoena any Dallas Minutemen -- partly because Dallas FBI agent James Hosty reported (as you showed with documents) that there was no Minuteman activity in Dallas. However, we still have some important folks to review. Starting with General Walker himself, we then have Robert Alan Surrey, Robert G. Klause, Bernard Weissman, Revilo P. Oliver -- and some others. There are a few others, but I thought we could start with these guys. What do you think? All best, --Paul

Yes, it's JBS. Notice how Larrie wrote his capital S in the word "Society" above.

Hi Jason, Regarding Larrie Schmidt, I interviewed him in 2012. He told me that he was very plugged into the Dallas Right Wing through Robert Morris, who was Walker's personal attorney for the Ole Miss Grand Jury hearings. This was probably the person that he meant was the "head of the JBS" in Dallas. Larrie assured me, often, that he never met General Walker at any time. Larrie also told me that he was close, personal friends with Robert Alan Surrey, and that it was Surrey who approached Larrie about a job opening for an aide for General Walker. Larrie recommended his brother, Robbie, fresh out of the US Army, who was looking for a job at the time, and Robbie was quickly hired. Larrie also told me that he was present when the NIC and JBS under General Walker booby-trapped the Austin Memorial Auditorium on October 23, 1963, one night before Adlai Stevenson's speech on October 24, 1963. Larrie took an active role, and had plenty of details to share about that. You noted above that Robbie Schmidt worked for General Walker -- he was the chauffeur -- and Robbie also lived at General Walker's two-story house. Larrie and Robbie were very close -- so I questioned Larrie again -- "You never went to General Walker's house to visit Robbie?" That question made him stumble. For one thing, Dick Russell had interviewed General Walker himself, and General Walker told Dick Russell that he kicked Larrie Schmidt out of his house, and told him never to come back. The reason was left vague. Finally -- in the single volume "Warren Report" there is a special section on the Dallas Right. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, I want to underscore my point about HL Hunt. He was a supporter of General Walker financially -- and thus of the Minutemen. He was certainly a member of the John Birch Society. HL Hunt was the richest man in Dallas. He was respected as such by most, if not all Dallas Officials. The Mayor, the Chief of Police, the Sheriff, the DA, the USPD Inspector -- all these leaders of Dallas respected HL Hunt enormously. And HL Hunt backed General Walker. As Dallas FBI agent James Hosty said on page four of his book, Axxignment Oswald (1996), his main job as a Dallas FBI agent was "to track General Walker and his Minutemen". I believe James Hosty did this -- and in doing so, saw that the richest man in Dallas supported "General Walker and his Minutemen." In my opinion, partly because of this conspicuous sponsorship, partly because of the errors that JFK and RFK made with regard to the Cold War, our FBI agent James Hosty TURNED and joined the main Dallas Officials in their Bircher dogma -- that JFK was a Communist. This was basically official in Dallas. Everything else flows from this Bircher attitude. The humiliation of Adlai Stevenson. The WANTED FOR TREASON handbills. The WELCOME TO DALLAS black-bordered ad page. James Hosty lying to Washington DC about the Radical Right in Dallas -- it all fits together under the Birchers. And General Walker was the leading Bircher on the streets of Dallas. My project is to show this with evidence. I'm only one guy. But the Truth is the Truth, and one day the Truth will come out. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Yes, correct -- there are four crimes that pepper the Warren Commission volumes -- shootings at Walker, JFK, Tippit and LHO. They are not dealt with strictly separately as they should be -- but they are peppered here and there throughout the WC testimony. The data is massive -- there is quantitatively as much data in the WC's 26 large volumes as there is in the Encyclopedia Britannica. Yet the data in the Britannica is well-ordered. There is no clear organization to the topics of the WC hearings -- they occur at the convenience of the WC attorneys. Not only that -- but three of the shootings -- JFK, Tippit, LHO, all occurred during a single weekend. The Walker shooting occurred eight months previously. What was the direct relationship? The fact mainly served to suspend suspicion that the Radical Right murdered JFK -- i.e. General Walker was a victim, not a criminal. In my opinion, this splattering of massive evidence for four different shooting was probably intended to deliberately confuse the reader, since the massive evidence presented does not lead to a Lone Nut conclusion -- as any objective reader can see -- it leads to a Dallas Conspiracy. (1) I agree with you that too little is made of Jack Ruby's naming of General Walker and the John Birch Society to Chief Justice Earl Warren. What is bizarre is that Jack Ruby was also an avid listener to HL Hunt's radio program -- Life Line. The historical document you present from KLIF DJ Russ Knight is a bizarre proof. The Dallas Radical Right political message was the "place" where the richest of the rich in Dallas (HL Hunt) and the slimiest of the slimy in Dallas (Jack Ruby) could have a true meeting of the minds! (2) I am not surprised that Jack Ruby would religiously follow HL Hunt's "Life Line." Many people did -- high and low brow. But why has there been a persistent suspicion about HL Hunt in much JFK CT literature? The answer, in my reading, is that HL certainly was a part of the JFK plot. My CT says that Walker-did-it. It is an economic historical fact that HL Hunt financed General Walker's gubernatorial campaign. In my reading, Hunt was also the landlord of the property at 4011 Turtle Creek Boulevard in Dallas, where General Walker lived. Witnesses placed Walker at the Hunt mansion for meetings and dinner. Although most people turned their backs on General Walker after the Ole Miss racial riots of 1962, HL Hunt didn't. Yet what role did HL Hunt play? The leader? Hardly. In my reading, HL Hunt's main role was to support General Walker as a landlord, and with political advice, if Walker wanted it. (For example, Walker advised Walker against the Ole Miss protest march, but Walker did it anyway. Hunt said that Walker could have won the seat of Texas Governor, but Walker refused to listen to Hunt's advice.) In my reading, HL Hunt was mainly a savvy bystander. General Walker led the ground-crew. HL Hunt didn't even provide money -- these were all volunteers under General Walker. No money changed hands at any time. Otherwise, there would have been blackmail outbreaks. The JFK Assassination was all volunteer -- by political fanatics. (It is well known that Mafia leaders from Miami, Chicago and Louisiana donated millions of dollars to killing JFK. In my reading, virtually none of that money came to Dallas. Gerry Patrick Hemming said -- on this very Forum, shortly before he died -- that most of that money went to swindlers and fakers. After JFK was killed, the swindlers returned to the donors to blackmail them for contributing to the murder of JFK. At that point, said Hemming, the donors called mafia hit-men to rub out the blackmailers. This was so common, said Hemming, that he himself was afraid to tell the truth about the JFK Assassination, because some of these cheated donors might become paranoid that they were about to be named, and might send a hit-man to kill Hemming.) 3. Yes, there is some literature about the Washington FBI (directed by Hoover) spiriting HL Hunt out of Dallas. The public belief that the JFK Assassination was a Radical Right plot was widespread in Dallas during the two weeks following the Assassination. The FBI knew all about this. HL Hunt truly was a target of threats. According to Chris Cravens, it was well known in Dallas that General Walker and his John Birch Society rogues were the leaders in the public humiliation of UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson in Dallas in October, 1963. That fact, however, never made the national news. That's how tight the Dallas Radical Right conducted its affairs with other Dallas Officials. All best, --Paul

Jim, This is terrific information. It should lay to rest any idea that General Walker was just an old nut in Dallas in 1963. Actually, Walker was only in his mid-50's. The typical CIA-did-it CT tries to minimize the role that Walker might have played in Dallas. Some, like Larry, even deny that he would be useful as a Dallas coordinator, and prefer to name the pimp, Jack Ruby, in that role! Though General Walker was no intellectual like General MacArthur, he was as shrewd as a jungle tiger, even at 55. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, These are interesting posts from US history that you're posing for us, and I've thought a lot about them. Here's my take on them. Because of the memo by DPD Lt. Jack Revill of 11/22/1963 -- very early in the JFK Assassination saga -- a leak is sprung inside the JFK plot. It is my guess that Lt. Revill was an honest cop, otherwise he would never have submitted this memo. In my reading, his memo is the gospel truth. If Revill is angry with Curry, it is because Curry was angry with Revill for writing the memo in the first place. Then, after taking crap from Curry, Revill became defensive. Who was it that leaked the memo to the press anyway? It wasn't Revill -- so it had to be Curry, because nobody else even had the memo (except low-level clerks who didn't even count in 1963). So, it was a hassle -- but anger was not the real issue -- it was the chaos. Revill did not want to be disloyal to Chief Curry. However, Revill had nothing to be ashamed about, either. He had told the truth. Why Curry was pissed at Revill -- and why Revill had to defend himself -- was a mystery for Revill. He wished it would all go away. Revill wanted no part of this fight. This is my reading. Now, in the later situation, where Texas Attorney General Waggoner Carr and Dallas District Attorney Henry Wade in January, 1964, brings to the Warren Commission some evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald might have been an FBI agent -- this is a totally separate issue. In my opinion, it reveals fears from Texas politicians that the whole State of Texas is about to get a real black-eye regarding the JFK murder, and at the level of Waggoner Carr, they wanted to blame the Washington FBI for failing to share information with the State of Texas. Texas was not going to take the whole blame. I think this was the motivation of Carr and Wade. This had nothing to do with the December scandal for the DPD involving Curry and Revill -- except that it was a major distraction in 1964 -- and remains so today. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Although the Paine's were highly educated, upper-middle class people from the USA East Coast, this carried little or no weight (or negative weight) in Texas in 1963. Actually, the John Birch Society (JBS) had coined the term, "Eastern Establishment, " to refer to Liberals, Rich People, and therefore Communists from the Eastern Seaboard. Remember that JBS founder Robert Welch wrote the following about Communists in his book which had converted General Walker in 1959: This brings us to the most important of their separate Big Lies. The first is that Communism is a movement of the downtrodden masses, against their oppressors. The truth is exactly the opposite. Communism is imposed on every country, from the top down, by a conspiratorial apparatus, headed and controlled by suave and utterly ruthless criminals, who are recruited from the richest families, most highly educated intellectuals, and most skillful politicians within that country. (Robert Welch, The Politician, 1959, Foreword) I don't credit Dallas FBI agent James Hosty for flattering Ruth Paine to the Warren Commission, because this was months after the JFK murder, when the Lone Nut theory was the new FBI dogma. Yet James Hosty was, in my opinion, involved in the wire-tapping of the Paine home on 11/22/1963. As for Buddy Walthers -- his fib about finding in Ruth Paine's garage, "six or seven metal filing cabinets full of the names of Castro supporters," is solid evidence, in my reading, that Hosty was part of a plot to blame the Communists as well as Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) for the JFK murder. The continual hinting by Captain Will Fritz and his men that LHO was KGB-trained is, in my reading, evidence of their part in the JFK plot. I hadn't heard before, Jason, the notion that Guy Banister sent LHO to Mexico City, partly to set up a perception that LHO was arranging an "escape" visa to escape after the JFK assassination. That's an interesting theory. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Right -- reporter Hugh Aynesworth wrote about DPD cop Jack Revill several times over the years, I cannot find further interviews with Jack Revill, however. Perhaps he didn't want to lose his job. Also, given that Revill's report is the truth, then we have confirmation that James Hosty lied to the WC when he told the attorneys that he had no clue that LHO was dangerous when the Secret Service PRS asked him in mid-November 1963. Also, Revill's report agrees fully with James Hosty's book, Assignment Oswald (1996) because in that book Hosty boasts that he allegedly knew that Oswald was a KGB operative as early as mid-October, 1963. That boast appears in the front, middle and end of his long book. It seems to me that Jack Revill posted (without trying) the most damaging evidence in the JFK hearings -- because they showed one of the JFK conspirators at work in conspiracy, and also in perjury -- so that J. Edgar Hoover himself had to come in to defend James Hosty -- in order to maintain the Lone Nut doctrine (i.e. that there was no Radical Right conspiracy). It seems to me that not only James Hosty, but also other member of the Dallas FBI knew very well what James Hosty was doing, and supported him in these acts -- or at least were willing to cover for him, just as Dallas cops were willing to cover for each other. James Garrison wrote (1988) that If the Dallas FBI was part of the JFK plot, this could explain why LHO, who hated Hosty, sent a telegram to the Secretary of the Navy ten days before the JFK Assassination. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, (1) Yes, we have famous photos of DPD motorcycle cop Clyde Haygood. Your questions are also mine. Who the heck are the dozen policemen already behind the picket fence of the Grassy Knoll when Clyde Haygood speeds there on his motorcycle after the JFK shots were fired. This was probably before the 30-60 seconds needed for the Sheriff's Deputies to run there from the County Jail 300 yards away. There was never any record of them, any mention of their names -- and besides that, IMHO, that was exactly as the JFK plotters planned it. The best disguise for shooters was a DPD uniform, because then they wouldn't even need to escape -- they could just "hide in plain sight" by looking "busy." (2) I personally do believe Beverly Oliver who claims that she saw the husband of fellow Jack Ruby stripper, Geneva White, there in front of the picket fence, speaking with another DPD officer. This was, obviously, Roscoe White. My main problem is how to move Roscoe from the Grassy Knoll to Oak Cliff in time to be present at the shooting of JD Tippit (as Jack White guessed, which sounds most reasonable to me). (3) I also questioned why DPD Officers Brown, Foster, White & Murphy had so little to say, when multiple civilians in their same location (the top of the triple overpass of Dealey Plaza) testified to the WC that they saw smoke rising from behind the picket fence of the Grassy Knoll immediately following the JFK shots. In my humble opinion, this suggests to me that there was a wider plot among many more Dallas Police, at the very least to keep quiet about anything they may have seen another DPD Officer do, or anything they heard about another DPD Officer. There seems to me to be an atmosphere of Right Wing hatred against Liberalism in Dallas in 1963, where JFK was a leading figure of USA liberal politics. Though JFK had some friends in Dallas (especially among the common folk), when it came to Dallas Officers, it seems to me that JFK had few supporters. The collective mood of the DPD was simply not going to cross the politics of Dallas lion, H.L. Hunt or his radio program, "Life Line" in 1963. All best, --Paul

Dallas Secret Service agent Forrest Sorrels, in his WC testimony, says that he was involved in arranging the motorcade route. The Secret Service men from Washington DC all said they had no direct role in it.

Jason, OK, I have no further DPD "Minutemen" suspects in mind. Here are another 25 Dallas Police and Deputies. I'm fairly certain that we have not already analyzed these. In 2013, for Dr. H.W. Brands, I summarized their WC testimony into very short first-person narratives (in most cases). 1. DPD Clyde Haygood: As a motorcycle cop I sped to the Grassy Knoll area, as saw many people running up there, so I tried to run my cycle up the ramp, but it was too steep, so he just left my cycle on the curb and ran up the Grassy Knoll. I looked behind the fence there, and saw a dozen policemen already there, looking in cars, looking through bushes, and so on. They weren’t finding anything. I called HQ and advised sealing off the TSBD as soon as possible. 2. DPD Gerald Hensley: -- (Radio dispatcher who gives a technical defense of the Dallas Police Radio Log. Admits that the official version is his re-write of the original.) 3. CSD Eugene Boone: I was out on Main and Houston standing with Deputy Mooney, and when we heard the shots I also ran across to the Grassy Knoll with Mooney and Walthers. I watched motorcycle policeman leave his motorcycle at the curb and run up the Knoll. I also jumped the fence, but I didn’t see anything suspicious. Then I met a colored boy, Betzer who had taken some photos about the time of the shots, so I sent Betzer to the CSD HQ to make a formal statement. His photos were too low to show anything, though. Then we were ordered to search the TSBD, and I went to get flashlights since we knew we might need them where lighting might be poor. I’m the one who found the rifle there on the sixth floor. Somebody up there called it a Mauser, and I thought that was Captain Fritz. 4. CSD Seymour Weitzman: I was standing on main street with Bill Hutton and some of the other Deputies when we heard the shots. A lot of us ran across Houston and across the lawn there and then up the Grassy Knoll and over the picket fence, where we thought the shots came from. I burned my hands on some pipes. Anyway, we examined all these footprints, but couldn’t figure them. There were so many officers and even Secret Service there. We didn’t find anything. Then we were all ordered to search the TSBD. I was with Boone when we found the rifle. Actually, I saw it first, because I was down on the floor, and I said softly to Boone, “There it is!” And when he saw it he shouted out loud, “We found the rifle!” so everybody could hear him, and so he got the credit for finding it. 5. DPD Guy Rose: I was off duty on Friday, but due to the crisis I decided to come in to help. By 1:45pm I arrived at City Hall for duty, to interview witnesses and to take statements. Around 2pm my partner, Officer Stovall, came in with Lee Harvey Oswald as their prisoner. They laid out the contents of his billfold onto the interrogation table. I asked his name and he said, “Hidell.” But I found two cards – one said, “Alek Hidel” and the other said “Lee Oswald.” I asked him for his real name, and he said in effect, “That’s your problem.” At about 2:15pm Captain Fritz instructed me to get two men and go to Oswald’s Irving address, so I chose Adamcik and Stovall. On the way we radioed for an Irving County unit to meet us, so Detectives Harry Weatherford, and J.L. Oxford met us there – and Deputy Buddy Walthers was also with them. We didn’t have a search warrant, so Stovall and I and a county officer knocked on the front door, which was open. Two people sitting inside the living room on the couch, and just as soon as we walked up on the porch, Ruth Paine came to the door, and we identified ourselves, and she said, “Come right on in. Just as soon as I heard where the shooting was, I knew someone would be out.” I was the Senior Detective there, so I was spokesman for the group. Stovall went into Marina Oswald’s bedroom, and I don’t remember where Adamcik went first, but I talked with Ruth Paine a few minutes and she told me that Marina was Lee Oswald’s wife, a citizen of Russia, and so I called Captain Fritz on the phone and asked him if there were any special instructions, and he said, “Well, ask her if her husband has a rifle.” I asked Ruth and she said “no,” but she translated for Marina who said, “Yes, he does have.” Through Ruth I asked Marina to show me his rifle and Marina pointed to the garage and we went to the garage and she pointed to a blanket that was rolled up and laying on the floor near the wall of the garage. It was tied at one end; it was rolled up, but it flattened out from laying down and tied near the middle with a cord. So I picked the blanket up, but it was empty; it had no rifle in it. We now had firm evidence – not the blanket, but Marina’s testimony. So we had to get it on the record. But before we could take them to the station, we had to deal with the issue of babysitting. Michael Paine also came in and he told Ruth Paine, “Just as soon as I heard where it happened, I knew you would need some help.” He didn’t have much to add however. Eventually we got a babysitter for Ruth Paine’s children, people they knew, and decided that Marina would bring her two babies, because they didn’t know anybody else. We took Ruth Paine, Marina, her two children and the blanket, in our car. Michael Paine drove himself. The Homicide office was so crowded with news media that we escorted them to the Forgery Bureau next door. Detective Senkel took their affidavits, and I tried to locate Wesley Frazier. I eventually brought Frazier in with his sister, Linnie Mae Randle, and took written affidavits. On Saturday morning we went out to Irving again with a search warrant. We searched the garage which is where almost all of Oswald’s property was. I found the photograph of Lee Oswald holding a rifle with a pistol at his hip, including the negative. Detective McCabe found another pose of Oswald holding the rifle. Then, late that evening, between 9 and 10pm, I helped guard Oswald during an interrogation by Captain Fritz, Detective Sims, an FBI agent and a Secret Service agent, there inside Captain Fritz’s office. Then I took that photo of Oswald holding the rifle to the ID bureau to get an 8” by 10” enlargement. I brought this back to show Captain Fritz and he asked for Oswald so he could confront him with it. Oswald accused the DPD of photo fakery, and even denied that this was his face. When he was asked about the JFK assassination or about Tippit, he would only talk about how conditions were better for colored people in Russia. That was the only interrogation I witnessed. I remember nothing else that was said in that interrogation. I took no further part in Oswald searches. 6. DPD Richard Stovall: I was off shift when I saw the news on TV. I just got dressed and went to HQ, arriving around 2pm, just about the same time Oswald was being led in. I took Oswald’s wallet and asked about his Alek Hidell ID card. He refused to answer me. Around 2:15pm Captain Fritz ordered me, and Officers Moore, Rose and Adamcik to Oswald’s Irving address. We arrived in Irving around 2:40pm and had to wait for local police, too, since Irving is outside our jurisdiction. About 3:15 they local officers Weatherford and Oxford, along with Deputy Buddy Walthers finally arrived. We knocked on the door and Mrs. Ruth Paine said, ‘Come in, we’ve been expecting you. You’re here about the mess on TV.’ So, we interviewed Ruth Paine and Ruth Paine also translated for Marina Oswald; and we searched their house. We found many items of interest that we confiscated for further research. Then Marina volunteered that Oswald kept his rifle in a blanket in the garage, and she showed us the blanket, but it was empty. So, after working out babysitting issues, we took Ruth Paine and Marina Oswald down to DPD HQ to answer more questions. Ruth Paine’s husband, Michael Paine, also arrived sometime during that search, and he came with us. I myself just left that to others, and I make a list of all the items we confiscated from the Irving address. So, that’s all I did on the investigation. We took this Hidell ID off of Oswald, and then in the Irving garage we found some negatives that showed he was making fake ID’s and Selective Service cards. 7. DPD John Adamcik: This was my day off, but I was called in for duty to help with the crisis. At about 2pm I was ordered to join a DPD party to search the home of Mrs. Paine in Irving, Texas. By 3:15 we were finally ready to move in. I went around the back of the house with the two officers, just in case there was trouble, but there wasn’t any trouble, and Officer Rose opened the back door and let us inside. We began a search of every room, looking for clues, especially weapons, or subversive literature suggesting a plot to kill the President. When Marina said that Oswald had a rifle in their garage, but it was missing now, we decided that was enough, and that we had to take her in for questioning. But she didn’t speak English, so we had to take Ruth Paine, her translator, too. But Ruth Paine needed babysitters for her two babies. Anyway, by 5:15pm we finally took them to DPD HQ and I guarded the interrogation room. Between 7 and 8pm Oswald’s mother and brother came to visit him and I escorted them. At 9pm I returned the Paines and Marina and her two babies back to Irving. By 10pm I was back at HQ, and I stood by Captain Fritz who was still interrogating Oswald. I went home at 2am. On Saturday, at 11am, we took a truck to Paine’s home and really went to town searching the place. Ruth and Michael Paine were there and just invited us in, carte blanche. They went grocery shopping, and they asked us to lock the door when we left. We stood there almost five hours, and the Paine’s never returned, but we took a lot of stuff. By 4pm we arrived back at DPD HQ, and started making out our inventory list, which we submitted to the WC. Later, Officer Moore and I returned to Irving to fetch Michael Paine to take his affidavit. 8. DPD Henry Moore: I was scheduled to come to work that Friday at 4pm, but because of the crisis I arrived at DPD HQ a little before 2pm. I mostly answered telephones, but around 6pm Captain Fritz sent me and a team out to 1026 North Beckley to search Oswald’s room. We got a search warrant from Judge David Johnston, who also showed up there with Assistant DA Bill Alexander and Detective F.M. Turner. We confiscated everything in the room. Many items were interesting, for example, a downtown Dallas map with several marks on it – that was probably the main thing. Also, a gun holster for a .38 pistol, matching Oswald’s .38 pistol exactly. Also some letters and papers in Russian. If anybody went back the following day, they found nothing, because we brought everything from that tiny, 4x12 room. We made out “City of Dallas property clerk receipts #11,194G through #11,200G”. We gave this to the WC. Some other interesting items were: (a) a World Health Organization vaccination card in the name of Lee Oswald, by vaccinator A.J. Hidell; (b) a passport; (c) application for a Texas driver’s license, #450. The next day I reported for work around 10am. I answered telephones for a while, and then I went out with Stovall, Rose and Adamcik to 2515 West Fifth Street in Irving in a truck to search that residence. We had a search warrant and an Irving officer with us. The residents just let us have our run of the place as they went shopping. The most interesting moment was when Officer Rose found the picture of Oswald holding the rifle. After that we returned to HQ and made out our official list. Then, Mr. Adamcik and I went back to the Irving residence and brought Michael Paine to the office to make out an affidavit. I talked to him for a while. Then I took the affidavit. That was the end of my duty that day. On Sunday I was off-duty, until Oswald was killed. Then I returned to work about 1pm mainly to do paperwork. Then Officer Rose and I were sent to search Ruby’s apartment by using a search warrant from Judge Joe B. Brown at his residence. 9. DPD Eugene Potts: This was my day off, but by 1pm I heard the news and by 2pm I was at HQ taking affidavits from all these witnesses. At 3pm Captain Fritz directed me and Officers Senkel, Turner, Moore and Cunningham to go to Oswald’s rooming house. We did and we brought back every last little thing from inside that tiny, 4x12 foot room. It didn’t take very long; by 5pm we were back at HQ. On Saturday I came to work at 10am to answer phones. Then, at 2:15pm, I was asked to serve as a guard for Oswald’s line-up, so I did. Oswald complained that he was the only one with a T-shirt on. On Sunday I was off-duty again, until after Oswald was killed, and then I was asked to come in again to answer phones. 10. DPD C.N. Dhority: I was off-duty that day, but I was summoned shortly after 1:30 by Lieutenant Wells. I arrived at HQ at 2pm, and answered telephones for the entire afternoon. I once saw Oswald sitting in Captain Fritz’s office. I never attended any interrogation. My first participation was at 6pm, when Detective Brown and myself got organized a show-up (or line-up) for bus driver McWatters and took his affidavit. I stood with McWatters during the showup at about 6:30pm. I did not talk to the witnesses, but there were more. I learned later their names were Sam Guinyard and Ted Callaway, who did identify Oswald. The bus driver McWatters was less certain, but he positively identified the bus ticket found in Oswald’s pocket, because his ticket punch has a distinct shape to it. But other than that he was uncertain, because it involved an incident of somebody grinning when a woman said that JFK had been shot. He couldn’t be sure it was the same man. Later Captain Fritz give me three spent 6.5 rifle shells to deliver to Lieutenant Day at the Crime Lab. Captain Fritz told me to bring one shell back. So I did, in an envelope, and Lieutenant Day kept two shells. (a) I was present when paraffin casts were made of Oswald’s hands and his face. (b) I also attended another show-up. About 7:30pm, Lieutenant Wells sent me and C.W. Brown out to Mrs. Wells home out in Oak Cliff, 400 East 10th, to drive her and her sister to the station: Virginia and Mrs. Jeanette Davis Wells. I took an affidavit from Virginia Wells, who also gave me a .38 hull. She said that she found it in her front yard. I later gave that to Lieutenant Day at the Crime Lab. They also identified Oswald as the man they saw reloading his pistol while running across their front lawn. Officer Brown took the affidavit from Jeanette Wells. The rest of the day I worked the phones, that never stopped ringing. (c) Now, on Saturday the 23rd, I took supported another show-up for cab drivers Whaley and Scoggins. They both identified Oswald. Then I was present on Sunday the 24th, when Captain Fritz’ asked for Oswald at his office one last time. At about 9:30am I went to the jail with Leavelle and Graves and brought Oswald down to Captain Fritz, SS agents Kelley and Sorrels and Mr. Holmes of the Post Office. Oswald was not nervous; he was calm and fresh. A little after 11am Captain Fritz gave me the keys to his car and told me to bring it in front of the jail office to transport Oswald down to the County Jail. I don’t recall anything that was said, and I took no notes. Because it was cold we gave Oswald a sweater to wear. Leavelle and Graves handcuffed Oswald to themselves, and when Captain Fritz came out the jail door with Leavelle, Oswald, Graves, Johnson and Montgomery. (d) Captain Fritz reached over to the car door and I was turned around to see about backing up – and I saw someone run across the end of the car real rapid like. I thought it was somebody running to take a picture and then I saw a hand come out and I heard the shot. I rode in the ambulance with Oswald to the hospital. I held his pulse all the way there. When he went into the operating room, Detective Graves went in with him. Captain Fritz told me to arrange for the security of Oswald in the hospital, but when I spoke with Mr. Price, hospital administrator, we got word that Oswald was dead. So then I made arrangements for Oswald’s mother and wife to look at Oswald’s body and then carried him to the morgue where I got Dr. Rose to photograph him with color pictures before he did the autopsy. 11. DPD Detective Robert Studebaker: I was on duty at the Crime Lab, and about 1:05pm we got a call to go down to the TSBD. Lieutenant Day and I arrived about 1:15pm. We took all our camera equipment and fingerprint kits, and at the entrance they directed us to the 6th floor. They hadn’t found anything when we got there. After we were there a little while, somebody found three empty shells in the southeast corner of the building – and we went over there and took photographs of that. I took two of the photographs and Lieutenant Day took two. These were taken before anything was ever moved or picked up. Soon after we took our photographs, somebody found a rifle, and we were asked to come and photograph that. We came back later that day to take more photographs of the scene and of the building inside and outside. 12. DPD Detective J.B. Hicks: I was off that day but I got to work somewhere around 3pm. At the TSBD Chief Lumpkin told me Lieutenant Day was on the 6th floor with Detective Studebaker were still there. Lieutenant Day was dusting for fingerprints and Mr. Studebaker was taking some pictures, and I assisted him in moving his equipment back and forth. All the action was already over when I arrived. I did take a set of Oswald’s fingerprints about 9pm there in Captain Fritz’ office. Also, I helped Sergeant Barnes made the paraffin cast on Oswald. Oswald didn’t protest; he was willing and had no comment on it. We were all pretty well busy until about 2:30 in the morning, mostly regular office work – ensuring we got a picture of this or a picture of that. That’s about it. I wasn’t present when Oswald was arraigned in the ID bureau. I left after 2am, but I think he was arraigned after I left. I am rather certain, because I believe I would have known about it had he been arraigned before I left, because there is only one door in our office to go out and had any other group been there, I would have noticed it. As for talking with Oswald, I only asked him his name when I made his fingerprints and I did not otherwise question him or go to any details in talking to him. I was never present at any line-ups of Oswald. I made no fingerprint study in this case, and no palm-print study. I never compared the prints I took of Oswald with any print from the TSBD. I never saw a paper sack in the items taken from the TSBD. Someone else had gathered that up. 13. DPD Lieutenant T.L. Baker: I prepared Commission Document 81-B for Captain Fritz. (This documents the physical location of Oswald inside the various rooms of the DPD station, from around midnight Friday 22 November 1963 until about 2am.) 14. DPD Edgar Smith: I was on foot patrol 40 feet south of Elm, on the east curb of Houston. I thought the shots came from the Grassy Knoll, and I ran up there with my gun out. I saw nobody up there except other policemen. So I just returned to my post to work traffic for the rest of the day, since that was really needed. 15. DPD Earl Brown: (Railroad overpass patrol. Saw the JFK Assassination, but did not see clear signs of a suspect.) 16. DPD J.W. Foster: (Railroad overpass patrol. Saw the JFK Assassination, but did not see clear signs of a suspect.) 17. DPD J.C. White: (Railroad overpass patrol. Saw the JFK Assassination, but did not see clear signs of a suspect.) 18. DPD Joe Murphy: (Railroad overpass patrol. Saw the JFK Assassination, but did not see clear signs of a suspect.) 19. DPD C.T. Walker: I was stationed out at the 10th Street Fire Station in Oak Cliff. At 12:50 I joined the team at the TSDB front steps screening IDs in and out. At 1:20pm I heard about the Tippit murder in Oak Cliff, and I drove there with two newspaper men. They were taking pictures and I was one of the officers to capture Oswald at about 1:50. 20. DPD Ray Hawkins: I was working on traffic accident patrol and listening to the events of the day on the DPD radio, when around 1:15 I heard about the murder of Officer Tippit in Oak Cliff. So, I drove down there with Officers Baggett and Hudson. By the time we got there all the commotion was at the Texas Theater, so we drove around the back and went inside and we joined the party of about six or seven to arrest Oswald there. He put up a fight, punching Officer McDonald with his right fist, and he pulled a gun but we took it from him and took him outside, protecting him from the wild crowd out there. I held the public back as other officers put Oswald in a car to take him to the station. Then I drove back to the station with Officer Bagget. 21. DPD W.E. Perry: On that day I was on duty in the Vice squad. I was asked to take part in a line-up about 4:35pm; and again at 6:30pm. 22. DPD Richard Clark: I was at work on 22nd of November 1963. About 4:30pm Officer Perry and I were called by Captain Fritz to pretend to be prisoners. We took off our coats and ties and I put on a red vest from the line-up wardrobe. My right wrist was handcuffed to Oswald’s left wrist. Perry was handcuffed to the other side of Oswald. Mr. Ables was handcuffed to my left wrist. Perry was #1; Oswald was #2; I was #3; and Ables was #4.… 23. DPD Don Ables: I was on duty November 22, 1963. About 4:30pm I participated in a line-up with Oswald because Sergeant Duncan asked me to. I was the #4 man in the line-up. 24. FBI Clements Manning: I was on another assignment when I was asked to become the liaison between the Dallas FBI and the DPD Homicide Bureau. Agent Bookhout and I had no idea who this person was, or what his role really was. I simply watched Oswald all Friday night with everybody else. At 11:30pm I interview Oswald briefly about his Alek Hidell ID, but he didn’t tell me anything. 25. DPD James Leavelle: My participation in the crisis of the Presidential assassination was only my Sunday project to escort Oswald out of the City Jail into a car to take him to the County Jail…We were expecting that our car would be across the passageway of the jail corridor, and that we would have to walk only a straight line from the door, about 14 feet to the car. We asked Captain Fritz to give us the OK sign, and he said, “Everything is all set.” However, the car wasn’t in the expected position! I was surprised when I walked to the door and the car was not in the spot it should have been! …The spot where Oswald was killed was exactly the spot that the car was supposed to be! Looking at these remaining 25 Dallas Officers who played some direct role with regard to Lee Harvey Oswald on 11/22/1963 to 11/24/1963, no further DPD "Minutemen" suspects jump out at me. Here are my remarks: A. I am still suspicious of anybody dealing with Ruth Paine. Her phone was tapped on 11/22/1963, and the contents of that tapping were used in an FBI report that the Paines said they "knew" who killed JFK. Michael Paine had to testify to the WC about it. B. This means to me that the JFK plotters had originally intended to drag the Paines into the JFK murder by implying some Communist Connections with them. Buddy Walthers (as I've already suggested) was one of the leaders in that subplot. C. I don't see any clear plotters in the list of the above 25. They might show up later, however. Do any stand out for you? If not -- then here's my next plan. James Hosty was accused of telling DPD Lieutenant Jack Revill only minutes after Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested, that Hosty personally knew that LHO was a dangerous Communist, capable of killing JFK. Jack Revill was stunned by this statement, so he immediately went back to his office, told his secretary to work late that day, and he wrote an official report about it. She typed it up and processed it officially. This came up for the WC. It is almost a guarantee that Jack Revill was not a part of the JFK plot (or that he was tending to crack). All best, --Paul

Jason, From this point, I'd like to look at a few more DPD Police. This is the closest we get to conspiracy until we examine only the Radical Right in the WC testimony. The Warren Report had a full section on the Dallas Radical Right. The WC witnesses among them were worthy of interview -- with General Walker and Robert Alan Surrey leading the way. Revilo P. Oliver -- the final witness -- is also interesting. So -- let me get another list of Dallas Police. Perhaps you might compile another list. We could meet on this thread and compare notes about who might be best to study next. All best, --Paul

No, actually Walker was embarrassed when George Lincoln Rockwell entered the US Senate dressed like a Nazi, and shouting on behalf of General Walker. Embarrassed is a mild term -- Walker was angered by the display. Actually, when a reporter after the hearings made a joke about Rockwell, our politlcal General Walker punched the reporter in the eye! Rockwell was crowing for his own cause, trying to steal Walker's thunder. Rockwell would get a boost in membership -- but not Walker. My only point was that the Radical Right hosted the type of people who followed Walker. They might never admit their racism in public, but they would certainly buy a bumper sticker that displayed, "Impeach Earl Warren." Rockwell hoped to bring all the US racists out of the closet. Trouble is -- there really wasn't enough of them in 1963, willing to come out. Walker was harmed by Rockwell's stunt, and Walker knew it. By the way, Jeff Caufield has some good material linking George Lincoln Rockwell with Guy Banister in New Orleans. Interesting. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, I agree that Walker is either -- (1) Bat-sh*t crazy with his accusation that Chief Jesse Curry had Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) under arrest on the night of April 10, 1963, but let him go on the secret orders of RFK, and hid all the evidence from that night until eternity. --or-- (2) Walker knew something that we still don't know. I certainly welcome your efforts to smash down my Walker-did-it CT, because you are willing to look at fresh evidence, and you don't hold some JFK CT dogma from the 1990's. OK, let's look at General Walker and Chief Curry. You want to presume that General Walker was being honest essay in his newsletter, "Police Chief Captain Curry's Boo Boo". It will be good to test that proposition. Curry and his errand boy, Bradford Angers (cited also by Dick Russell, 1993) are blackmailing Walker for $10,000, says Walker. (Remember that in 1963, $10,000 is like $100,000 in today's money.) In my opinion, because Dick Russell (TMWKTM, 1993) also writes of Bradford Angers accusing Larrie and Robbie Schmidt of helping Lee Harvey Oswald shoot at General Walker -- Bradford Angers had his own JFK CT. This is the key to my explanation. Angers believed (correctly) that Walker and his followers killed JFK -- and Angers tried to test Walker's backbone by holding up this new manuscript by Jesse Curry, and claiming that he helped to write it, and demanded $10,000, "or else he and Curry would expose Walker's DPD Police File." If Walker was a weak-minded sort, he would crack immediately, without reading the manuscript, with the terror of the secrets that Jesse Curry knew about Walker. If Walker was weak, he would give Angers $10,000 in 1969 -- and $10,000 in 1970 -- and $10,000 in 1971, and so on forever. I doubt that Jesse Curry planned this blackmail -- I think it was Angers' private plan. Yes, Walker sneers at Chief Curry for this outrage -- after all, Angers is Curry's boy. Walker -- who came from the US Army -- would always blame the senior officer in charge. IMHO, the references to South America were simply playing to Walker's base audience. South America was a hotbed of Communism they believed -- and Walker fed that flame. Also IMHO, Walker isn't blaming Curry so much for inventing the Lone Nut theory, but for caving in to the Lone Nut theory from all those Communists who were controlling Washington DC. For General Walker, LHO was the assassin in *both* the Walker shooting and the JFK shooting, and Curry knew the truth of *both* but refused to tell the truth of either. Walker's base was only interested in the Walker shooting. The real crime of Jesse Curry was that he knew of a Communist plot against General Walker on April 10, 1963, and he refused to admit it! Curry also refused to keep seeking Walker's second shooter, who was still at large! Walker is playing to his base audience -- he's not crazy, but he is deliberately spinning fiction. Walker knows very well that his own Minutemen among the DPD killed JFK, and that the DPD helped foster a culture that shielded them from discovery. Walker also knew that Jesse Curry and Will Fritz conspired to murder LHO at the DPD station. Curry's own secrets were at least as big as Walker's. After the JFK weekend, Curry began drinking more than usual, and in 3 years he would retire early. This man had secrets. A Communist plot against General Walker on April 10, 1963 wasn't one of Curry's secrets. Yet Walker would slam Curry (and his new book) for bowing to Washington DC. Curry was to blame for betraying the Radical Right and their dogma that all modern history was a Communist plot! That was the dogma of General Walker's base in 1969. As for Marina -- well, she's Russian -- so naturally she's a Communist! But bless her heart, she admitted to the world that the same famous assassin who killed JFK was the same assassin who tried to kill General Walker! Now -- about Walker's DPD "file" and the "blackmail." IMHO, this was Angers' plot, and it was a bluff from beginning to end. He was testing Walker's backbone, to see if he could crack it. WILLIE McDUFF: By the way -- about Willie McDuff -- General Walker *never* accused him! It was Robert Alan Surrey and Miss Julia Knecht, both of whom had permanent offices at Walker's home residence, who were anxious to see that Willie McDuff never came around. For one thing, spinster Julie had diary fantasies of marrying General Walker, and a young, bisexual gigolo walking around the mansion half-dressed all the time was a shock. For another, Robert had a wife and children and could no longer bring them over while this gigolo was at the address. Walker, for his part, bemoaned the loss of Willie McDuff when he learned on April 9th that Julie and Robert had moved Willie's stuff to the curb in mid-February, 1963, the day after General Walker went out on a six week, coast to coast speaking tour with segregationist Reverend Billy James Hargis. Walker never suspected Willie (who had gone to live with Clyde Watts in Oklahoma). Walker even told the WC that he would welcome Wille back anytime! THE DALLAS FBI: Walt Brown rightly emphasizes Dick Russell's interview of Igor and Natasha Voshinin, who learned that that LHO was Walker's shooter on Easter Sunday, and immediately told the FBI. As you say, the FBI would probably tell the DPD -- but don't forget -- they would immediately tell General Walker! The FBI agent on that case would be James Hosty. The evidence that General Walker learned about LHO being one his shooters at or around Easter Sunday, 1963, is the letter with which I opened this thread last month. The Dallas FBI is in the drink as deep as the DPD. So -- who turned LHO loose at midnight on April 10, 1963? Not the Dallas FBI. It would have been (in Walker's paranoid politics) RFK, the Justice Department, the CIA and some goons from the Communist Party. General Walker, in my reading, was good pals with Dallas FBI agent James Hosty. Hosty was the one who warned Walker of LHO in the first place. THE DALLAS POLICE: By the way, in my reading, LHO never was in DPD custody in April -- so Curry had nothing to hide on that account (despite Walker). Instead, the grain of truth in Walker's fear was as follows. (1) LHO was named as Walker's shooter four days after the Walker shooting; (2) the DPD did not arrest LHO immediately as they should have; therefore (3) it was exactly the same as if the DPD "let LHO go free." That's the grain of truth. If, as you say, the FBI would have told the DPD about LHO, then you're right -- we must ask why the DPD "let LHO go free." So, here's my guess -- the FBI (i.e. James Hosty) didn't tell the DPD about LHO! Instead, James Hosty solely and only told General Walker! Also, as we have pondered here in the past few days, if the Radical Right in Dallas already had their hooks into LHO as early as February, 1963, then the Radical Right in the FBI would have less reason to tell the DPD. They would have more reason to hatch a plan with General Walker about what to do about this ex-Marine "defector" run amok. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Glad you liked Walker's newsletter to the "Friends of Walker." He was a pretty good writer -- and he was a terrific speaker, when he spoke to the Choir. Chris Cravens reported that in an hour speech, Walker could get a dozen standing ovations, and a five minute standing ovation at the end. His main message was something like "draining the swamp" in Washington DC. It's amazing how many Americans in 1961-1963 hated JFK and RFK, and were terrified of Cuba. Anyway -- going by their WC testimony alone, we can see that Walker is smarter than Sheriff Decker, Captain Fritz, Chief Curry, USPS Inspector Holmes and Dallas Secret Service agent Forrest Sorrels. Even Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, as educated as he was, appears less articulate than Walker. Well -- Walker spent his childhood in the 1920's in Military School. Then he went to West Point. Then he went into the US Army where he spent the next 30 years until 1961. In 1959 he joined the John Birch Society, which radicalized him, and motivated his resignation from the US Army (submitted twice in 24 months -- denied by Ike, accepted by JFK). One reporter says that Walker wanted to be US President, and really thought he had a chance. All he had to do first was become Governor of Texas. So, he ran in 1962, financed by oil baron H.L. Hunt. He reached the zenith of his political career in April, 1962, on the day when the US Senate convened a subcommittee to hear "The Case of Walker" about why Walker was allegedly "fired" from the US Army by a Communist Plot. Walker walked into that subcommittee with his head held high. If he did well in these hearings, he would easily win the Texas Governors' chair. He was a beloved speaker to the Choir -- I already said -- but to a critical audience, under cross-examination, he caused one reporter to exclaim, "By the grace of God, he is the worst speaker in the world." If we go by Walker's WC testimony, we see again his strengths and weaknesses to amiable questions and to cross-examination. He spoke well -- but he wasn't a careful thinker. He could probably plan a paramilitary ambush as well as any expert in the USA. But when it came to politics, he was no match for, say, LBJ. Anyway -- Walker did horribly before that Senate subcommittee. He really looked silly, spending much of his time attacking the US Army newspaper, Overseas Weekly, claiming they were "subversive." He looked silly, too, when he claimed that there were Communists in the Pentagon. He looked triply silly when George Lincoln Rockwell, head of the ANP, came to the Senate hearings wearing full Nazi regalia, and praising Walker to high heaven -- and was escorted outside. It was a political disaster for General Walker. In a field of five candidates for Texas Governor, he came in last place. But he would not quit. He wanted political power, and he had powerful backers. He only had to think of a new plan. All best, --Paul P.S. Yes, General Walker was firmly against the Vietnam War, because of his personal experience in the Korean War. In his view, the United Nations was Communist-controlled, and the United Nations directed the Korean War -- not the US Military. Walker preached to his Choir that any Vietnam War would merely repeat the Korean War as another No-Win War, directed by the United Nations -- that is, by the Communists.

Jason, I will go along with your guesswork here -- to see where it leads. Let's get down to brass tacks, though -- I will show you the document itself from the "Friends of Walker" newsletter that General Walker sent out twice monthly (IIRC). It's called, Police Chief Curry's Boo Boo. In this rant, General Walker is not merely angry with Chief Curry, but is also accusing him of blackmail -- very openly. Please tell me what you think of this rare, "Friends of Walker" newsletter. It's only two pages long. http://www.pet880.com/images/19691212_Curry_Boo_Boo.pdf All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Yes, I think that the Dallas Police can tell us more. Now that we have tentatively agreed with Walt Brown, that the Dallas Police and Deputies were the ground crew that ran logistics for the JFK Assassination and the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald in their custody (by using this local pimp, Jack Ruby) -- now I want to know the Leadership. I think you're correct that the WC testimony and affidavits, as well as later interviews by Dallas Officers can continue to feed us clues. For example, why does DPD Sergeant David Harkness submit a report in 1964 that Lee Harvey Oswald was a supporter of the FPCC in Dallas in 1963? What is that all about? Why do we find, for example, a small number of Dallas Police and Deputies who just happen to go to the Grassy Knoll, to the TSBD, to Oak Cliff to the Texas Theater, to Ruth Paine's home and to LHO's rooming house? There were several hundred Dallas Officers available who could make a dragnet -- yet it was this small number who did most of the discovery. They should have been asked many more questions by the Warren Commission, IMHO. Yet what they told us gives us clues. Why does Harkness back-pedal regarding the FPCC in Dallas? He wasn't trying to cover for Chief Curry -- in my opinion -- he was trying to cover for James Hosty. Or rather -- Jesse Curry was trying to cover for James Hosty. Just to take some of that tremendous pressure off of Hosty. All best, --Paul