Steve Thomas

David, II'm afraid don't know anything about him at all. Look at p. 2 of this pdf file: There's a couple of clues you can pick up. Are Ernie Lazar's databases searchable? - or the FBI's Subject Files. I'll bet you'll find out Perkins was big in the John Birch Society. PS: Did you read up about the pillow incident on p. 9 of that file? Now that's an interesting idea. McHann knew something and it tortured him for the rest of his life. I think Weisberg has a pretty good theory on p. 29 Steve Thomas

Lance, "What is being translated as "experimental shop" would be the part of the factory where they make sure that new equipment and devices are operating properly before they are put out on the floor of the factory. So it's more like "checking" than "experimenting." " Which would have fit right into his job title of "Regulator". The lazy Oswald... hmmm. That kind of fits with the impressions his supervisors at Reilly Coffee and Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall seemed to have had of him. It sounds like the Soviets seemed to have planted him somewhere where they could keep an eye on him, but wasn't expected to really do anything. The insights your sister-in-law is able to provide are really helpful. Steve Thomas

Lance, Thank you, and your wife and sister-in-law. That translation makes a whole lot more sense. Making the parts and tools for the machines sounds about right too, because he talks about reading blueprints in his Collective. I wondered about that at the time. "Work here is given out in the form of blueprints and drawings by the foreman Zemof and Jr. foreman Lavcook..." http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/thecollective.htm Thanks again. Steve Thomas

This just keeps getting better. On May 4, 1964 in an interview in his home with SS Agent Ernest I. Aragon, Rogelio Cisneros told Aragon in Miami that he had gone to Dallas, by plane, alone to meet Sylvia Odio, whom he had never met before, in June, 1963, for the specific purpose of meeting Sylvia Odio who was supposed to introduce Cisneros to a Uruguayan named Juan Martin, who was interested in selling small arms to JURE. He wanted to buy guns, and Martin wanted to sell them. Odio was going to serve as the middleman (middlewoman?). Odio had moved to Dallas in March. Cisneros had a second purpose in going to Dallas however. When he went to Sylvia's house, he was accompanied by Jorge Rodriguz Alvaredo. http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/FBI%20Records%20Files/105-82555/105-82555%20Section%20215/215e.pdf page 183 of Heitman's report, p. 16 of the pdf file. On September 4, 1964 Jorge Rodriguez Alvareda told Wallace Heitman that Rogelio Cisneros Diaz had come to Dallas in late May, or early June, 1963 for the purpose of organizing the Dallas Branch of JURE. On May 28, 1964 a Report out of Dallas is drafted on various Cuban groups. REPORT: JUNTA REVOLUCIONARIA CUBANA; SEGUNDO FRENTE DE ESCAMBRAY (OPERATION ALPHA 66); DIRECTORIO REVOLUCIONARIO ESTUDIANTIL; MOVIMIENTO REVOLUCIONARIO 30 DE NOVIEMBRE; FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA COMMITTEE https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=28726#relPageId=2&tab=page Jorge Rodriguez Alvareda advised that the Dallas Chapter of JURE was established in late June and early July, 1963. Rodriguez Alvareda said that he was employed at the Curtis-Mathes plant and that he had been authorized on July 3, 1963 in a letter from Osorio Davila Santana, Secretary General of JURE in Miami to proceed with the organization of JURE unit in Dallas. Manuel Rodriguez Orcarberro was also employed at the Curtis-Mathes plant. Father Walter J. McHann (Mary Ferrell's database spells it Machann) CE 2943 p. 402. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142#relPageId=438&tab=page Letter from James Rowley of the Secret Service to J. Lee Rankin dated May 5, 1964. McHann interviewed by SS Inspector Kelly on April 30, 1964. McHann was chaplain to the Cuban Catholic Committee of Dallas. They organized religious and social activities for the Cuban refugees to help them adjust. Did they organize the picnic? McHann said he had been introduced to John Martin aka Juan Martin; and that one night, John Martin came to Sylvia's while he was there. McHann described John Martin as a Latin, but not a Cuban. Martin had a house in Dallas, but did not live there. He lived in a different city with his family. Sylvia seemed to know John Martin quite well. Sylvia Odio moves to Dallas in March Cisneros flies from Miami to Dallas in June to set up a gun buying deal with Johnny Martin using Sylvia as the middlewoman and to organize a JURE Chapter in Dallas with Jorge Rodriguez Alvaredo as its President. Father McHann at some point is introduced to Johnny Martin at Syvlia's home. Two months later, in September, a picnic is organized at White Rock Lake. Oswald is maybe seen there, and maybe not. Did the Catholic Cuban Relief Committee, who arranged social activities for the Cubans, organize the picnic? Was Father McHann there? Was the Rodriguez who was selling tickets, Jorge Rodriguez, the President of the JURE Dallas Chapter? That same month three men come to Sylvia's door claiming to be from JURE. She thinks Oswald was one of the three. Steve Thomas

They didn't go out the back door. The Secret Service guys stationed back there told D.V. Harkness so. *smile* Steve Thomas

Seems to me that you can spend a lot of time arguing about the "what ifs" and the "why nots", but the bottom line is that you don't have anyone who can place Lee Harvey Oswald at the scene of the crime during the shooting, and you don't have any eyewitnesses seeing him fleeing the scene of the crime. Who's to say that he didn't simply got tired of waiting for the elevator to come back up and just quietly and calmly walked back down the stairs? Or even crossed the room and walked down the stairs by the front elevator? (Were there stairs by the front elevator that went up to the sixth floor)? One's as good a conjecture as another. It's all speculation anyway. Steve Thomas

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11481#relPageId=219&tab=page Heitman had previously interviewed Orcarberro on February 10, 1964 and May 10, 1964. Informant T-1 had told Heitman that Orcarberro had lived at 5310 Columbia in Dallas. According to Heitman, Rodririguez said he registered as an alien of Dallas, TX on September 6, 1963, at which time his address was reflected as 1208 Hudspeth St. His last prior address was listed as 5310 Columbia St., Dallas. CE 2390 (25H370) https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1141#relPageId=400&tab=page FBI Agent Wallace Heitman interview of Osvaldo Aurelio Pino Pino July 8, 1964 Resides at 719 N. Bishop St. in Dallas and is employed at El Chico Restaurant warehouse. Pino state that he is a member of SNFE. “He said that he remembers that a general reunion of various Cuban refugees had been held several months ago at a picnic grounds near White Rock Lake, and that a woman by the name of Odio had made a short speech at the reunion.” This may be Annie Odio and not Sylvia. WC testimony of Sylvia Odio: http://jfkassassinat...timony/odio.htm Sylvia Odio, July 22, 1964…. we did have some meetings, yes. John Martino spoke… she (Lucille Connell) went to that meeting. I did not go, because they kept it quiet from me so I would not get upset about it…. He came to Dallas and gave a talk to the Cubans about conditions in Cuba, and she was one of the ones that went to the meeting. Mr. LIEBELER. Mrs. Connell? Mrs. ODIO. Yes; and my sister Annie went, too. REPORT: JUNTA REVOLUCIONARIA CUBANA; SEGUNDO FRENTE DE ESCAMBRAY (OPERATION ALPHA 66); DIRECTORIO REVOLUCIONARIO ESTUDIANTIL; MOVIMIENTO REVOLUCIONARIO 30 DE NOVIEMBRE; FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA COMMITTEE NARA Record Number: 104-10320-10070 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=28726&relPageId=2 On pages 4 through 5 of that Report, Manuel Rodriguez Orcarberro furnished a list of the present officers of SNFE. Among the list of Officers is Osvaldo Pino Pino. Steve Thomas

Douglas, I never realized how big Oswald's hands were. He sure seems ill at ease in this social setting. Look at his body language. Steve Thomas

David, Thank you. I think it is. http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/FBI%20Records%20Files/105-82555/105-82555%20Section%20215/215e.pdf p. 187 25H371, CE 2390 and CD 1546 p. 188. FBI interview of Felix Guillermo Othon Pacho by SA Wallace Heitman on September 8, 1964. Othon was the DRE delegate in Dallas after Sarah Castillo. Othon told Heitman that Manuel Salvat had come to Dallas from Miami in September or October, 1963 and that a meeting of about thirty or forty Cubans and Americans had been held at a bank near White Rock Lake. The meeting had been organized by Mr. Dean Perkins, who was sympathetic to the Cuban cause. Othon said that he was known as Bill Othon in Dallas among Americans. He said he was employed by Forrest and Cotton Engineers, Mercantile Continental Building, Dallas. Is George Parrel Felix Guillermo Othon Pacho, or Fermin De Goicochea? CD 1085 In June, 1963 Andrés Nazario Sargén wrote Manuel Rodriguez Orcarberro a letter and urged him to establish a chapter of Alpha 66 in Dallas. Orcarberro moved to Dallas in September, 1963. On May 25, 1964, Manuel Rodriguez voluntarily appeared at the Dallas FBI offices and spoke to Wallace Heitman. He told Heitman that the members of SNFE met at bi-weekly meetings at 3126 Harlandale. (Although in his Report, Heitman spelled it Hollandale.) http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=222 On November 23 and 26, 1963 Buddy Walthers writes a Supplementary Investigation Report addressed to Bill Decker. A group of Cubans have been having meetings at 3126 Harlendale St. “on the weekends over the past few months”. “Subject Oswald has been to this house before”. https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0276b.htm Commission Document 946 - SS Aragon Report of 5 May 1964 re: Sylvia Odio, Rogelio Cisneros Diaz page 3 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11342&search=%22Juan_Martin%22#relPageId=4&tab=page On May 4, 1964 in an interview in his home with SS Agent Ernest I. Aragon, Cisneros told Aragon that: Rogelio Cisneros, a JURE member in Miami, went to Dallas alone, by plane in June, 1963 for the specific purpose of meeting Sylvia Odio who was supposed to introduce Cisneros to a Uruguayan named Juan Martin, who was interested in selling small arms to JURE. The JURE office in Dallas was already in operation, having been established in May, 1963. He only contacted Sylvia Odio once. Cisneros was accompanied by Jorge Rodriguez (Alvarada) (Alvereda?), their Dallas delegate, and no one else. TESTIMONY OF SYLVIA ODIO The testimony of Sylvia Odio was taken at 9 a.m., on July 22, 1964 http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/odio.htm Mrs. ODIO. No. I have told you I moved several times, and it is because of reasons of my work, and because my children at the time were in Puerto Rico, I and I went down to get them in Puerto Rico June 29th. That was exactly the day that I saw Ray again. We had been trying to establish a contact in Dallas with Mr. Johnny Martin, who is from Uruguay. He is from there, and he had heard that I was involved in this movement. And he said that he had a lot of contacts in Latin America to buy arms, particularly in Brazil, and that if he were in contact with one of our chief leaders of the underground, he would be able to sell him second-hand arms that we could use in our revolution. On April 24, 1964 SS Chief Rowley wrote a Memorandum to J. Lee Rankin of the Warren Commission. This memo is CD 853 http://www.maryferre...amp;relPageId=2 This memo was in response to a letter from Rankin to Rowley dated April 22, 1964. The topic was Manuel Rodriguez Orcarberro and the Cuban exile community. Some of the things in Rowley’s memo were: 1/16/64 Frank Ellsworth was interviewed about Orcarberro. Ellsworth had been working undercover gathering evidence against John Thomas Masen. Masen told Ellsworth that Orcarberro had been trying to buy guns and bazookas from Masen. Masen told Ellsworth that Rodriguez and George F. Parrel were leaders of the local DRE and also members of Alpha-66 Masen told Ellsworth that George Parrel, an associate of Orcarberro, had also been trying to buy guns from him. They had made purchases from him and that they presently have a large cache of arms located somewhere in Dallas, although he did not know the location. Parrel was a student at Dallas City College. Steve Thomas

David, I thought maybe I would start collecting references to him. See if there's any pattern. Here's what I have so far: 1) CIA cable Lee Henry Oswald is 5'10” weighing 165 lbs, light brown, wavy hair with blue eyes. October 10, 1963 http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=110013&relPageId=2 2) CIA cable to Dep't of State, FBI and Dep't of Navy October 1, 1963 https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/157-10014-10242.pdf p. 436 “Probably identical to Lee Henry Oswald” 5'10”, light brown wavy hair, blue eyes. 3) Stringfellow Cable In this referenced cable, Harvey Lee Oswald was described as 5'10" tall, 165 lbs, with light brown hair and blue eyes. https://ia601309.us.archive.org/22/items/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK/AI%20JFK%2001.pdf 4) The initial description broadcast over the DPD radio was for a suspect 5"10" tall weighing 165 lbs and nobody knows where that description came from. I wonder if the following isn't the original source of so many reports to follow in the coming years: 5) Report of John Fain (FBI Dallas) dated July 3, 1961. CE 980 p. 388 1 copy to ONI New Orleans On April 28, 1960 Mrs. Marguerite Oswald provided the following physical description of Lee Harvey Oswald: 5'10" tall, 165 lbs light brown wavy hair, blue eyes. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=399&tab=page Steve Thomas

David, Here's that 5'10" 165 lb Lee Oswald with light brown wavy hair and blue eyes again. (p. 436) Who is this guy? He pops up everywhere. Compare that to Oswald's physical description on p. 443. (5'9" 140 lbs) Steve Thomas

Mr. BALL - Who referred to it as a Mauser that day? Mr. BOONE - I believe Captain Fritz. He had knelt down there to look at it, and before he removed it, not knowing what it was, he said that is what it looks like. Steve Thomas

I believe that Howard Brennan was brought down to Police Headquarters on the evening of November 23rd to ID Oswald as the shooter and at that time he failed to identify Oswald as such, as is indicated on the lineup card in the DPD Archives, Box 6, Folder# 1, Item# 73, page 3 http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box6.htm I know the reasons for refusing to identify Oswald that he gave later, but as far as evidentiary value in a trial, I'll go with the lineup card. I am not saying that it was impossible for Oswald to have run down the stairs unseen. I am saying that you don't have any eyewitnesses seeing Oswald fleeing the scene. The palmprint shown in CE 637 was introduced in evidence in WC (4H23-24). https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=34#relPageId=32&tab=page Day told the WC that traces of the palmprint were still evident after lifting it off the rifle. Latona of the FBI said that when the FBI got the rifle, there were no traces of a palmprint, or even any evidence that someone had tried to process it. 637 was not sent to the FBI along with the other evidence on the 22nd. It was not sent until the 26th. He told the WC, "Mr. BELIN. Is there any particular reason why this was not released on the 22d? Mr. DAY. The gun was being sent in to them for process of prints. Actually I thought the print on the gun was their best bet, still remained on there..." http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/day1.htm This kind of evidence is worthless. Steve Thomas

Mr. FRITZ. That first showup was for a lady who was an eye witness and we were trying to get that showup as soon as we could because she was beginning to faint and getting sick. In fact, I had to leave the office and carry some ammonia across the hall, they were about to send her to the hospital or something and we needed that identification real quickly, and she got to feeling all right after using this ammonia. What? He kept some in his desk drawer? He could find some ammonia right quick, but tape recorders? fuggeddaboutit. Steve Thomas

Oswald could easily have run down the stairs in 90 seconds. But, I'm sorry. I must have missed something. Could you please provide me the name of the eyewitness who saw him running down the stairs? Don't you think it's odd that you have the only eyewitness to the man committing the greatest crime of the 20th Century, and neither the Chief of Police, or the Captain of the Homicide Bureau could bother to be at the lineup where the perpetrator is identified? Again, I'm sorry, but were Lee Harvey Oswald's fingerprints found anywhere else on the sixth floor? Please show me the fingerprints taken off the rifle. I'd like to see the actual prints please. Steve Thomas

I mean that pretty well cinches it doesn't it? If you don't have any eyewitnesses, "We can't place Oswald at that window with a gun in his hand." (Jesse Curry) and you don't have Oswald's prints on the rifle that was found in the TSBD, even if you could prove it was his rifle, and he's got an alibi by being seen on the second floor within 90 seconds of the shooting, and nobody saw him coming down the stairs... there's no court in the land that would convict him beyond a reasonable doubt of being the shooter . Steve Thomas

FWIW, It wasn't unusual for the police officers (and probably representatives of other other government agencies like the FBI and Secret Service) to review and correct their statements multiple times before submitting them. As Kenneth Croy told the Warren Commission in his testimony regarding his Report to Curry on his duties on the 24th: http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/croy.htm Mr. CROY. No; well, I will put it this way, that it took us 8 hours to get that up. That is how interested they were. Mr. GRIFFIN. You talked with them for 8 hours? Mr. CROY. On 2 different occasions. That day and the next day, for 4 hours each day. That is pretty interesting. Mr. CROY. No; we talked the entire thing over, and after we talked everything over and they brought the stenographer in and we went back over it again, then I left and she typed it up, and I came in the next day and we went back over it again and back over it and so on. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, this statement which we have marked, a letter which we have marked Exhibit 5052, which is a copy of a letter that you prepared for Chief Curry, dated November 26, 1963, was that prepared down in the police department, or was that prepared at one of your business offices? Mr. CROY. That was prepared at the Dallas Police Academy. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where is that located? Mr. CROY. On Shorecrest back of the northwest substation. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was that prepared by hand? Mr. CROY. Yes, it was. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were you responsible for getting the typing done? Mr. CROY. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Who did you turn that report over to? Mr. CROY. Captain Solomon. Mr. GRIFFIN. Then was it his responsibility to get the typing done? Mr. CROY. I don't know. I just turned it in. What he did with it, I don't know. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did it eventually come back to you? Mr. CROY. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. The typed copy never came back to you? Mr. CROY. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Is there any question in your mind but that the statement that you signed is a complete and accurate copy of the statement that you prepared in your own hand in the police department? Mr. CROY. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall what day it was, the day you prepared that statement? Mr. CROY. The following Tuesday night. I don't know what date it was. Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, Mr. Croy, why didn't you mention in this report, dated November 26, your seeing this man you believe to be Ruby? Mr. CROY. Why didn't I mention that in there? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mr. CROY. Because at that time Captain Solomon told me that there would be another report made and I would have to go downtown to the city hall before a stenographer, and he told me just to leave that out for the time being, and put this in this other affidavit that you have, that this right here was just basically to find out where we were in the city hall. Mr. GRIFFIN. Then when you prepared this other statement on December 1, who called you and how did you come to go before Notary Public A. L. Curtis? Mr. CROY. He is a lieutenant. After I signed it, I took it there to be notarized by him. Mr. CROY. What it was, the stenographer took it, and then she typed it up. Then the next day I went back down there and they re-read it to me and went over and over and over and over the same thing over and over again. And then I took it into Lieutenant Curtis and signed it and had it notarized. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did they take notes as you talked with them? Mr. CROY. No; we talked the entire thing over, and after we talked everything over and they brought the stenographer in and we went back over it again, then I left and she typed it up, and I came in the next day and we went back over it again and back over it and so on. Steve Thomas

I don't know why, but this picnic has always fascinated me. Part of it goes to the question of whether Veciana could have seen LHO in Dallas in September if he was supposed to be in New Orleans. Part of it goes to the Sylvia Odio story of meeting LHO in the hallway of her apartment house. Part of it goes to whether or not LHO addressed a group of Cubans. Part of it goes to SNFE/Alpha 66 and DRE recruiting efforts in Dallas in September. Part of it may address Hall and Seymour running guns through Dallas. Part of it may address the Whitter/Lawrence theft of guns from the Terrell National Guard Armory. Part of it may address Manuel Rodriguez Orcarberro/George Perrel attempts to buy guns from John Thomas Masen. Part of it may address Nancy Perrin Rich and her testimony. There just seemed to be a lot of Cuban exile activity in Dallas in the fall of 1963. These are excerpts of an interview of Harold Weisberg with Colonel and Mrs. Robert Castorr. Has anyone ever seen the film that these stills were taken from, or the pictures Weisberg showed to the Castorrs? Mr, C: And let's not forget that he was at the White Rock picnic amongst the Cubans and ostensibly wasn't Oswald suppose to have been there at the picnic? http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/C%20Disk/Castorr%20L%20Robert%20Colonel/Item%2023.pdf page 14. W: Do you remember when that picnic was? Mrs. C: Well, it was about mid-September of '63. http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/C%20Disk/Castorr%20L%20Robert%20Colonel/Item%2023.pdf page 5. Mr. C: Well I understand that Oswald was at the White Rock picnic with these Cubans. Wasn't there a picture that came out that somebody took that's somewhere in the files.. W: May I ask if that could have been a man who looked like Oswald? Mr. C: It could be... W: I think that's more likely. Mr. C: I'm getting back to my belief and thinking that Father McCann was also there... Mrs. C: He was invited to that picnic. That was mid-September of '63 and Bob was out of the country. So this would put these men -- Paul and presumably Howard -- in Dallas at approximately that time in Sept. with another man whom they introduced to her as Leon Oswald. So you see, when we're talking about a man at the picnic who was thought to have been Oswald, it was quite consistent with Sylvia Odio's story because when she was shown the pictures of Oswald, although if you read her testimony carefully, she points out certain dissimilarities between the man she saw and the man, Oswald, in the pictures. Nonetheless it's consistent with Oswald and on balance, she said it looked like him. W: You may not, but that's all right. What we have here are pictures collected of people we don't know too much about. These are some stills taken from the television films taken of the in White Rock Park. in the summer July 1963 I believe. ITS Mrs. C: September, I believe. Mr. W: Was that it._ http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/C%20Disk/Castorr%20L%20Robert%20Colonel/Item%2012.pdf page 1. Mrs. C: Now, I was not at that meeting. So far as this picnic was concerned, you see, I was going around to some of these people bringing food, bringing clothing and what have you, and I did not speak nor understand Spanish unfortunately, but I heard that there was going to be a picnic at White Rock Lake and the man by the name of Rodriquez was selling the tickets. And some reference was made to the fact that in some group of Cubans, someone said are you going to that picnic. "Well, no, the right people aren't going to be there"and I was never invited to that picnic so.. W: They were more or less the left wing group. Mrs. C: Yes, now after the picnic was over, I heard from some source and I couldn't tell you where that they raised $7,000 at that picnic and that there were people there from Puerto Rico and from Venezuela who attended that picnic. pp. 6-7 http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/FBI%20Records%20Files/105-82555/105-82555%20Section%20215/215e.pdf p. 187 25H371, CE 2390 and CD 1546 p. 188. FBI interview of Felix Guillermo Othon Pacho by SA Wallace Heitman on September 8, 1964. Othon was the DRE delegate in Dallas after Sarah Castillo. Othon told Heitman that Manuel Salvat had come to Dallas from Miami in September or October, 1963 and that a meeting of about thirty or forty Cubans and Americans had been held at a bank near White Rock Lake. The meeting had been organized by Mr. Dean Perkins, who was sympathetic to the Cuban cause. Steve Thomas

Ray, Maybe the same way way the estate of Ray Hawkins got their money: Lee Harvey Oswald handcuffs valued at $250,000 http://www.paulfrasercollectibles.com/news/memorabilia/lee-harvey-oswald-handcuffs-valued-at-250-000/22042.page November 30, 2016 "The Dallas Police Department made its officers and detectives buy their own handcuffs, thus allowing Hawkins to retain his private property after the assassination." The lot is estimated to bring in $250,000 ahead of the December 3 close date. Steve Thomas

Sandy, I'm just curious. If the Baker/Truly/Oswald second-floor encounter didn't happen, why do you think was it inserted into the record? What are the advantages, or implications? Didn't it give Oswald an alibi? Steve Thomas

Lance, I once read a long time ago, (I don't remember who) who said, "If Oswald truly was a patsy, any time spent on him is a waste of time". I don't know what the answer is. *shrug* I think I can be confident in saying that the CIA waiting a year to open a 201 file on Oswald is a bunch of malarky. They may not have had a 201 file, but they had some kind of file. I wondered about the dating on Oswald's resignation letter (CE 1314) compared to the dating on the back of the back yard photo (DeMohrenschildt's copy?). Let me know what your wife says about "Locksmith" and your sister-in-law says about the shop. I'm interested. Steve Thomas

Lanz, *smile*, Thank you. I'm getting a little better with the cursive, but if the writing is a little sloppy, fugedda bout it. *smile*. Birth and death certificates from the 1800's huh? That's impressive. I agree with you that the Russian writing looks more "experienced", or "fluid". The application for employment on p. 427 was supposedly done in January. I don't think he met Marina until April was it? I was struck yesterday about the similarity of Oswald disappearing for two weeks in 1962 (between October 19th and November 2nd) and then going to work at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis; and then him disappearing between November 15, 1959 and January 4, 1960, only to go to work at a sensitive radio factory. Didn't a U-2 plane get shot down on both occasions? Potato farm... *smile* Steve Thomas

Lance, PS: Thank you for tip on the web site you referenced above. Like Peter Wronski, I am very suspicious of the six weeks Oswald went "missing" between mid November, 1959 and early January, 1960. Steve Thomas

Lance, Thank you for your help. I am struggling with the Russian documents. I just don't know enough. Would you look at the Certificate on page 430 of CE 985 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=444&tab=page are either p. 429 or 431 the Russian version of that Certificate? It's interesting that in earlier versions of the Russian documents, say in early 1960 when he is applying for his first identity cards (around pages 413 and 414), Oswald signs his name in English. By the time of his resignation, he signs his name in Russian: (22H) CE 1314 p. 486 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1317#relPageId=516&tab=page Would you also look at his application for employment autobiography on page 427? Would you say that the English version and the Russian version were written by the same hand? https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=441&tab=page You talked about the sensitive work done at the factory. I thought at the time when I was reading his "Collective", it was interesting that he said that the factory employed 5,000 people, of which 2,000 were soldiers. Again, thank you for your help. Steve Thomas

David, I just checked. The Russian word for Citizen is Гражданин The Russian word for Oswald is Освальд If you put them together, they are, Гражданин Освальд If, you go to CE 985 page 434, this is his unsatisfactory job reference. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=448&tab=page Scroll midway down to the beginning of the first full paragraph and that's what you'll see. Гражданин Освальд "Citizen" is the correct translation. Steve Thomas