Steve Thomas

Jim, Kelley's private conversation with Oswald comes at the tail end of the interview. Counting Kelley, there were 8 people present besides Oswald. Kelley even says it was in Fritz's office. After Kelley wrapped up, Oswald was given a change of clothes and Fritz made a "number of telephone calls" to make sure the preparations were in place. (I don't know why a "number of calls" had to be placed, and I've always been curious to who the "one of Frit'sz men" was who might or might not have been in earshot. I couldn't find any corroboration for this last point in the reports or testimony of people like Sims or Boyd. Steve Thomas

I posted this back in 2016: "Let's get our story straight" By Steve Thomas, October 25, 2016 in JFK Assassination Debate http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23156-lets-get-our-story-straight/?tab=comments#comment-336108 “I approached Oswald then and, out of the hearing of the others except perhaps one of Captain Fritz's men, said that as a Secret Service agent; … we were therefore very anxious to talk with him to make certain that the correct story was developing as it related to the assassination.” Oswald said he'd be glad to discuss this once he got an attorney. Thomas Kelley. Warren Report. Appendix XI. Reports Relating to the Interrogation of Lee Harvey Oswald at the Dallas Police Department p. 630 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=946#relPageId=654&tab=page What was Fritz doing while Kelley talked to Oswald privately at 9:30 AM on Sunday mornig? Steve Thomas

Jim, Just to be clear, I was quoting Bill Simpich. Steve Thomas

Jim, For me personally, this was illustrated in the WC testimony of Jack Revill. Lieutenant Jack Revill testified before the Warren Commission on May 13, 1964. (Bob Carroll had already testified a month earlier – see below) http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/revill2.htm The questioning concerns a Report that Revill wrote out at approximately 3:30 to 3:35 on the afternoon of the 22nd concerning Lee Harvey Oswald at 605 Elsbeth St. Up to a certain point, Revill ia being questioned by General counsel, J, Lee Rankin, but when the subject of Oswald's address of 605 Elsbeth comes up, Allen Dulles takes over. This Report is CE 709 at (17H495) https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=521&tab=page Mr. REVILL. That is what they gave me. Mr. RANKIN. You found that out? Mr. DULLES. This is an address he once lived at. Mr. RANKIN. Do you know that? Mr. DUlLES. This is correct. I want to find out what he knows about it. Notice the interplay between Rankin and Dulles. Dulles seems to know about the Elsbeth St. address and he wants to know how Revill knows about it. Mr. DULLES. Could I ask a question? Where did you get this address that you put on of 605 Elsbeth Street, do you recall? Mr. REVILL. Yes, sir; from Detective E. B. Carroll or Detective Taylor. Mr. DULLES. Are they subordinates? Mr. REVILL. No; they are detectives assigned to the special service bureau. One of them works the narcotics squad and one of them is assigned to the vice unit. Mr. DULLES. You never ascertained where they got it? Mr. REVILL. No, sir; this might be the address that they got from Oswald, I do not know. I never even thought about it until you brought up the point that this is not the address. Mr. DULLES. Can you find out where they got this address? Mr. REVILL. Yes, sir; I can. Mr. DULLES. I think that would be useful. I would like to know that. I would like to know where they got this address also. Mr. REVILL. It would have been the same day because this was made within an hour---- The CHAIRMAN. I think that is all. Thank you, again, lieutenant. Mr. REVILL. I will attempt to find out on that address, and I shall let Mr. Sorrels know, with Secret Service. It's Dulles, not Rankin who keeps pushing Revill where he got this address. Is Dulles concerned that Revill knew about a connection of a Harvey Lee Oswald to Elsbeth St, and how Revill would know about that? Just about the time when Revill would have revealed when he obtained this address, he is cut off. Warren Commission Document# 948 is a memo from Sorrels to Inspector Kelley dated May 19, 1964. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11344#relPageId=2&tab=page In that memo, Sorrels says that Revill contacted Sorrels (it does not say how this contact was made), and said that Revill told him he got the 605 Elsbeth address orally from Bob Carroll. As the driver of the car that took Oswald from the Theater to the police station, Carroll allegedly looked back over his shoulder and read the address off a Dallas Public Library card that had been removed from Oswald's billfold by one of the officers in the back seat. Carroll allegedly said that he misread the number as 605 instead of 602. This is six days after Revilll's WC testimony, and one month after Bob Carroll told the WC that no mention of an address had been made in the car transporting Oswald to City Hall. Detective Bob Carroll's testimony before the Warren Commission April 3, 1964 http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/carroll.htm Mr. BELIN. Did he give two names? Or did someone in the car read from the identification? Mr. CARROLL. Someone in the car may have read from the identification. I know two names, the best I recall, were mentioned. Mr. BELIN. Were any addresses mentioned? Mr. CARROLL. Not that I recall; no, sir. In their after-action reports filed with Chief Curry on December 3rd, neither Caroll (Portal to Texas History) https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340230/m1/1/?q=Bob%20Carroll nor Detective E.E. Taylor, Special Services Bureau, Narcotics Section (Portal to Texas History) https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340230/m1/1/?q=E.E.%20Taylor make any mention of giving Revill Oswald’s address. Steve Thomas

Jim, Yes, it's hard to know where that information came from. I personally believe that there is a nexus - a pipeline of information - somewhere between U.S Army Reserves and the Dallas Police Department that we don't know anything about. I once started compiling a list of references to this 5'10:, blue-eyed, bushy-browned hair person. I keep reminding myself that on two occasions, Earlene Roberts testified that when the Dallas Police Detectives came knocking on her door, they were asking for Harvey Lee Oswald. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/24831-510/ 1) CIA cable Lee Henry Oswald is 5'10” weighing 165 lbs, light brown, wavy hair with blue eyes. October 10, 1963 http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=110013&relPageId=2 https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10428-10262.pdf 2) CIA cable to Dep't of State, FBI and Dep't of Navy October 1, 1963 https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/157-10014-10242.pdf p. 436 “Probably identical to Lee Henry Oswald” 5'10”, light brown wavy hair, blue eyes. 3) Stringfellow Cable In this referenced cable, Harvey Lee Oswald was described as 5'10" tall, 165 lbs, with light brown hair and blue eyes. https://ia601309.us.archive.org/22/items/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK/AI%20JFK%2001.pdf 4) The initial description broadcast over the DPD radio was for a suspect 5"10" tall weighing 165 lbs and nobody knows where that description came from 5) DPD Sergeant Gerald Hill: We went on to the scene of the shooting where we found a squad car parked against the right or the south curb on 10th Street, with a pool of blood on the left-hand side of it near the side of the car. Tippit had already been removed. The first man that came up to me, he said, "The man that shot him was a white male about 5'10", weighing 160 to 170 pounds, had on a Jacket and a pair of dark trousers, and brown bushy hair." http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hill_gl.htm 6) Report of John Fain (FBI Dallas) dated July 3, 1961. CE 980 p. 388, CE 821 (17H) p. 706. 1 copy to ONI New Orleans On April 28, 1960 Mrs. Marguerite Oswald provided the following physical description of Lee Harvey Oswald: (17H706) https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=732&tab=page 5'10" tall, 165 lbs light brown wavy hair, blue eyes. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=399&tab=page Posted by Bill Simpich in the Education Forum 10/11/2009 http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/4023-lee-henry-oswald/ A final anomaly brought out in "Popov's Mole" is a crucial key to the assassination itself A false physical description of Oswald as 5 feet, 10 inches and 165 pounds can be found in three crucial places: 1. This description originated in a memo written by FBI Special John Fain in May, 1960, supposedly based from talking to Oswald’s mother, although Oswald’s weight never varied any more than 130-150 and was 150 at the time of his death. LHO's height was generally described as 5 feet, 9 inches, though the Marines reported Oswald as 5 feet, 11 inches. LHO seemed to favor the 5'11" description when dealing with government officials, for some still-unknown purpose. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/w...eport_0084b.htm http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=10 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=792581 2. “The last known pre-assassination use of this physical description was in the second of the twin October 10 messages was a cable sent two hours later to the station in Mexico: "Oswald is five feet ten inches, one hundred sixty five pounds..." Although Egerter checked it for accuracy, "accuracy" is not the issue. The issue is how this particular description was chosen from all the descriptions out there.” http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=157 3. Finally, the broadcast over the Dallas police radio fifteen minutes after JFK was shot was that the unidentified assassin was “5/10, 165 pounds...” http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/w...Vol23_0438a.htm “Although confused commentators have claimed that Howard Brennan was the source, it's well documented that an "unidentified citizen" gave the above description to Inspector Sawyer after he saw someone looking like Oswald running from the Book Depository immediately after the assassination. The citizen did not comply with the sheriff's request to come to the office later to fill out a report, and Hoover said that the "sheriff's office can locate no record on this citizen". https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57753&relPageId=109 Even after the Warren Report was published, Hoover responded in November, 1964 to general counsel J. Lee Rankin's request that according to the Dallas police the information came from an ‘unidentified citizen’.” http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=72 - Huh? What is that all about? also see Gerald McKnight's (Breach of Trust, p. 109) Rankin repeated his request to Hoover for more information on this incident, but apparently to no avail. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=33 Is this "unidentified citizen" someone with access to government records, and which set of records does he have access to, and how intertwined is he with this whole Harvey Lee Oswald mess? Steve Thomas

Trump brags about his Jan 6th crowd size and admits 'regret' over not joining march on the Capitol by Timothy Evans April 07, 2022 https://www.rawstory.com/trump-jan-6th-2657114199/ “...Trump said he deserved more credit for drawing such a large crowd to the Ellipse — and that he pressed to march on the Capitol with his supporters but was stopped by his security detail. “Secret Service said I couldn’t go. I would have gone there in a minute," he said.” “...Trump teased about whether he will again run for the White House. “I don’t want to comment on running, but I think a lot of people are going to be very happy by my decision," he said, adding: "Because it’s a little boring now.” “ Nightmares have a hasty habit of recurring. Steve Thomas

Jim, You can find it in two places: https://ia601309.us.archive.org/22/items/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK/AI%20JFK%2001.pdf See the local pdf file for this Stringfellow cable.pdf It's in the Weisberg Collection. https://archive.org/details/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK The cable is mostly focused on the FPCC. Stringfellow appears on page 3. It mis-identfies him as as Assistant Chief, and calls him Don Stringfellow. Steve Thomas

State Bill May Allow Lawyers to Carry Guns in Courtroom BY NICK MORDOWANEC ON 4/5/22 http://https://www.newsweek.com/state-bill-may-allow-lawyers-carry-guns-courtroom-1695282Kopp "A bill passed in the Kentucky Legislature that would allow all licensed attorneys to conceal-carry firearms in courtrooms statewide is being met with some opposition. The bill passed unanimously in the State House and by a 33-1 margin, with the lone "no" vote coming from Senate Minority Leader Morgan McGarvey. He called the bill "insane."" "David Boles, a district court judge and former 20-year member of the police force, said courtrooms are emotional and that adding guns to the equation could lead to a worst-case scenario. "Imagine a responsible criminal defense lawyer who is armed sitting next to his client in court," Boles said. "Now imagine the client overpowering his lawyer, taking his firearm and creating a deadly encounter inside the courtroom. Imagine that for a moment...it's not unbelievable and it's not impossible that that would happen."" Ya think? Steve Thomas

Pete, I'm sorry, I have 't read it. Steve Thomas

Jim, My prior suspicions were not about Sgt. H.H. Stringer, but of Detective Stringfellow. Here's a copy of Stringer's after-action report on his participation in the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340414/m1/1/?q=H.H. Stringer It was Stringfellow who reported that Oswald had been arrested in the balcony, which is odd, because Stringfellow wasn't even there. https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337707/?q=Stringfellow According to the 1961 Dallas City Directory, City Detective, Leonard D. Stringfellow (married to Berniece) lived at 7530 Rosemont Rd. https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth806907/m1/1898/?q=Stringfellow Steve Thomas

- Sarah Palin;s definition of being a Statesman, "I have nothing to lose." - "’m going to throw my hat in the ring because we need people that have cajones. We need people like Donald Trump who has nothing to lose like me." Wait. What? Madison Cawthorn got up on the floor of the House and said women don't have tallywackers. Sarah Palin says, "Elect me because I have cajones." I'm confused. Is this the "inevitable end result of our last 56 years"? Steve Thomas

Jamey, Dave Reitzes Feb 26, 2012, 8:07:53 PM https://groups.google.com/g/alt.assassination.jfk/c/4f9b8d5KcTk - QUOTE - "There are two other witnesses who told the FBI about it almost immediately: http://http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/17th_Issue/rambler_witness.html Then there's Richard Randolph Carr, who told the FBI about it a few months later: http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/C Disk/Carr Richard Randolph/Item 02.pdf Carr's testimony is often dismissed because by the time he came forward, Roger Craig's claim had received a fair amount of publicity and because his story become more elaborate by the time he testified at the Clay Shaw trial. htmlhttp://www.jfk-online.com/carrshaw.html Researcher Duke Lane has posted some commentary about him: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/13705-richard-randolph-carr/ Michael Kurtz claims to have interviewed another corroborating witness in 1974, one Helen (Mrs. James) Forrest. Kurtz says she told him that she saw a man who looked exactly like Oswald run from the rear of the TSBD and get in the Rambler: "If it wasn't Oswald, it was his identical twin." (Michael L. Kurtz, CRIME OF THE CENTURY [Knoxville: University of Tennessee Press, 1993], p. 132.) I have no idea whether Mrs. Forrest's story is credible, or if she was even in Dealey Plaza." -ENDQUOTE - Steve Thomas

Lauren Boebert (R-CO) Who the hell is Micky Mouse, and why doesn't Lauren Boebert want him to get a trademark? P.S. Congress doesn't legislate individual company's trademarks. Steve Thomas

Ukraine has become a graveyard for Russians — and for modern weapons systems by Lucian K. Truscott IV, Salon April 02, 2022 https://www.rawstory.com/r-2657082991/ “If there is one image that will symbolize forever this war, it will be a blown-up Russian tank, its treads sagging and its turret tilted, rusting by the side of the road in Ukraine.” “But here is the real deal: The NLAW disposable missile costs around $25,000, and the Javelin rocket launcher system costs about $180,000 and fires a missile that costs around $75,000. Both rocket launchers are being used in Ukraine to destroy tanks that cost upwards of $2 million each. The cost differential is obvious. It's even better when you consider the RPG-7, which costs around $1,000 and fires missiles that can cost as little as $100 each. (Costs can go up to as much as $500 for RPG warheads when they use armor piercing or air-burst technology.) Their cost-effectiveness is amazing when you consider that they're being used to knock out Russian APCs costing more than $1 million each. In Iraq, the same RPGs were used by insurgents to bring down American Apache and Blackhawk helicopters that cost between $6 million and $13 million each, depending on the model and year of manufacture.” “The cost differential between the ground-based Stingers and expensive Russian air force jets is enormous, which is why Russia has failed to achieve air superiority despite its far better equipped air force and army helicopter units. They have been reluctant to put them in the air, knowing Ukrainians with Stingers are waiting for them on the ground.” Steve Thomas

Disinfectant Don strikes again. Makes Fun of the Dutch Trump attacking Peter Meijer for the spelling of his last name https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1510414748356997125 Steve Thomas

Trump’s 8-hour gap: Minute-by-minute during Jan. 6 riot By COLLEEN LONG March 31, 2022 https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-elections-donald-trump-presidential-elections-election-2020-3315609c4152b4429930a17191b5a217 “At 6:27, he went back to the residence, and started calling his lawyers.” Uh huh. Steve Thomas

Cawthorn blames ‘the left and the media’ after intra-GOP furor over sex-and-drugs comments By Olivia Beavers and Craig Howie 04/01/2022 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/01/cawthorn-gop-furor-sex-drugs-comments-00022528 “Amid a burgeoning congressional controversy, Rep. Madison Cawthorn on Friday blamed Democrats and the media for amplifying his comments that some of his fellow GOP members engage in orgies and use cocaine. “My comments on a recent podcast appearance calling out corruption have been used by the left and the media to disparage my Republican colleagues and falsely insinuate their involvement in illicit activities,” Cawthorn said in a statement without addressing the substance of his own comments directly. “The left and the media want to use my words to divide the GOP. … I will not back down to the mob, and I will not let them win.”” Dirty, damn leftist mob. How dare they accurately report what I say! Steve Thomas

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10677711/Russias-war-effort-stalls-Red-Army-replacement-weapons.html "Russia's war effort stalls as the Red Army can't get replacement weapons or spares for their crippled convoys... because they're all made in Ukraine. Russia has lost an estimated 143 planes, 131 helicopters, 625 tanks in conflict. Defence sources say Red Army has run out of weapons and can't replenish stockIt was revealed some helicopters, jets and cruise missiles were made by or use vital components from Ukraine. Russia can't now source items elsewhere due to international sanctions" "TheDaily Mail can reveal that Ukraine had previously supplied Russia with cruise missiles, helicopter engine parts and fighter jet components. It also produced the fire control systems used by Russian tanks." "Now, when these systems fail, they cannot be replaced. Russia is unable to source these items or alternatives from other countries due to international sanctions." Steve Thomas

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Jim, Since Oswald wasn't arrested until the 1:40 - 1:50 time frame, it's hard to see how Biggio or Stringfellow could have been calling anyone about the Hidell name before 2:00 PM, unless the Hidell ID came from the wallet found at the shooting scene. Ausin and San Antonio are two different towns. Fort Sam Houston was in San Antonio. If Biggio was calling Austin, that would probably have been the Texas Department of Public Safety, i. the State Police. Now, either Biggio mis=spoke,. Golz got it wrong, or Biggio/Strinfellow were trying to hide or mask their connection to Military Intelligence (U.S. Army Reserve) Biggio or Stringfellow going around the local 112th in Dallas is significant, I think.. There's a pipeline of information flow that we don't know anything about. Steve Thomas

Jim, Just a little side note.... The article says, " “Minutes after Oswald was arrested something very unusual happened. An unidentified person from the Dallas Police Department contacted Army Intelligence Lt. Colonel Robert E. Jones, the Operations Officer of the 112th INTC group in San Antonio.” I don't think the person from the DPD is unidentified. http://washingtonbabylon.com/bunker-command-center-jfk-assassination-merely-worlds-interesting-basement/ Stringfellow and Biggio were working the police radio at the Fairgrounds on 11/22/63 Stringfellow and Biggio were both Detectives in the DPD’s Special Service Bureau see p. 4 of Batchelor’s Exhibit 5001 https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf “Army Apparently didn't tell Commission of Oswald's Alias” by Earl Golz Dallas Morning News March 19, 1978 in the Weisberg Collection http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/F%20Disk/FBI/FBI%20Records%20Release%2012-7-77%20News%20Accounts/Item%20069.pdf “However, Biggio, who was directing police intelligence communications at the Fair Park office the day of the assassination, said, "We called down to Austin after we got the name Hidell, I believe, and they came back with that information." “Don Stringfellow, a fellow police intelligence officer working with Biggio at the Fair Park office, was named as the source of information in a secret cable the night of Nov. 22 from Army intelligence in Texas to the U.S. Strike Command at MacDill AirForce Base in Florida. The cable said that information "obtained from Oswald revealed that he had defected to Cuba in 1959 and is a card-carrying member of the Communist Party.” (In his article, Golz has this slightly wrong. The cable in question actually went from Washington to McDill AFB). https://archive.org/details/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK So, who exactly did the police have in custody? Continuing with Golz's article... “(Lieutenant Colonel, Roy) Pate, the Army intelligence commander in Dallas, said his group was getting information soon after the assassination fromboth the Dallas police and the FBI, but the cable using Stringfellow as a source "did not originate in Dallas because my only reporting channels in the Army were to the112th in San Antonio." Biggio and Stringefellow did not go go through the local Dallas office of the 112th, but went directly to the 112th Headquarters at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio. Steve Thomas

Now that Putin has obliterated any signs of human habitation in Mariopol, and de-populated the area, what's he going to do with it? Plow it all under and build a gigantic seaport? Steve Thomas

Matt, Now I know that Donald Trump will run for President in 2024. He's asked Vladimir Putin for help. Steve Thomas

Donald Trump's newest lawyer is a poet. They've known each other since Military Academy days. https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-new-lawyer-peter-ticktin-has-been-fawning-over-him-since-high-school?ref=home - Peter Ticktin - At last the market place has brought / A toy that causes lasting thought / Of life and sex and puzzled joy, / A chopped up mess of Miss Playboy. / A jig sawed copy of past releases, / The poor girl has gone to pieces, / Cut apart by some contraption / As she longed for loving action,” reads the poem, “A PLAYBOY PUZZLE.” Um... No comment. Steve Thomas