On 9/6/2021 at 9:02 AM, Steve Thomas said:

Conservatives are already setting the stage to accuse Newsom of recall election fraud: report

And so it begins.

Steve Thomas

Aaron Rupar

https://twitter.com/i/status/1435433534282469378

See, I told ya.

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Richard Price said:

 

As an somewhat unrelated question, I scanned the dispatch record at the McAdams site just to see the relevant information being given.  At 1:35 there is a transmission about the "Governor's wife" flying in from Austin.  Then at 1:52 "39" listed as a single occupant car states "I'm in the sergeant's car and 39 has the tower radio.  "4" identified as Asst. Chief N. T. Fisher then asks, "Well, where is he?", to which "39" replies, "He has gone with the State unit to pick up the governor's wife."

What is all this about?  The Governor's wife as most would know was in the car along with her husband and the President.

Richard,

I am going on memory here, so forgive me if I'm a little rusty.

39 was assigned to two patrolmen:

James F. Butcher was a Patrolman in the Patrol Division, Northwest Area Substation, Second Platoon

Love Field was assigned to the Northwest Area Subdivision.

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf

page 9

Charles W. Comer was a Patrolman in the Patrol Division, Southwest Area Subdivision, Second Platoon

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf

page 10

To make matters a little more confusing, there was also a Car39 Car 2. You can see this reflected in the Tapes where callers are asking which Car 39 various people are in. If I remember right, this was a station wagon.

I believe the "Governor's wife" the Dispatcher's Tapes are referring to is either the Governor's mother, or the wife of the former Governor. I don't remember which.

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Gil Jesus said:

But there IS evidence that the shells currently in the National Archives my not be the shells that were found at the murder scene.
Four shells were found at the scene: two by Domingo Benevides, which he gave to Officer J.M. Poe.

THE SHELLS AT THE SCENE INDICATE....
More evidence of substitution comes in the radio broadcast of Sgt. Gerald Hill. He allegedly got two shells from Sgt. Pete Barnes who got them from Officer Poe. 

 

A veteran detective Sergeant identified the shells as automatics.
 

Gil,

Hill's ID of the shells as coming from an automatic wasn't the first.

At 1:34 PM, Patrolman H.W. Summers sent out this broadcast:

This broadcast preceded Gerald Hill’s broadcast of a .38 caliber, also broadcast at 1:34 PM.

Benevides told Poe that he saw the suspect hold those shells in his hand. He gave them to Poe. Poe gave them to Pete Barnes. Barnes was dusting Tippit's car for fingerprints. He had a fingerprint kit in his hands.

To the best of my knowledge, Barnes did not dust those shells for fingerprints.

Steve Thomas

Ivermectin

Because you're not a &^%$#@! sheep

Steve Thomas

I shot this photo last night.

I don't know if the MG comes with the property or not, but the longer I look at the picture, the more I hope the C-4 is a zoning reference.

Steve Thomas

Jerry Patrick Hemming

Steve (I'm not a mercenary, but I would like to be a gadfly) Thomas

Conservatives are already setting the stage to accuse Newsom of recall election fraud: report

by Tom Boggioni September 06, 2021

https://www.rawstory.com/conservatives-are-already-setting-the-stage-to-accuse-newsom-of-recall-election-fraud-report/

"Appearing on Fox News, Elder -- the leading Republican candidate -- already telegraphed how he might respond to Newsom not being ousted.

"The 2020 election, in my opinion, was full of shenanigans. And my fear is they're going to try that in this election right here and recall. So I'm urging people to go to ElectElder.com. Whenever you see anything, hear anything suspicious, go to my website. We have a battery of lawyers. We're going to file a lawsuit in a timely fashion this time," he told MediaBuzz host Howard Kurtz."

And so it begins.

Steve Thomas

Never in my wildest dreams, did I envision a day where we had to issue tasers to flight stewardesses.

Steve Thomas

40 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

Got it Steve, I see, thanks very much! I will go by the last one from now on, CE 1974, unless otherwise noted.

 

Greg,

What interests me more is the role that Lumpkin played:

Lumpkin, who was the Commandant of the 4150th U.S. Army Reserve Training School

Lumpkin, who took charge at the TSBD following the assassination

Lumpkin, who, early on, took charge of the Dispatch Tapes transcription

Lumpkin, who rode in the Pilot car with George Whitmeyer, who Winston Lawson told the HSCA "taught military intelligence:; and, as far as I know, made no effort to shoo people off the railroad overpass

George Lumpkin is a very interesting individual.

Steve Thomas

3 hours ago, David Andrews said:

Gil,...

Who were the officers in your previous post, that were refused by the FBI Academy because Curry said they had unrevealed knowledge of Oswald?

 

David,

I think Gil was trying to say is that Hoover denied the DPD (anyone from the Department) further admittance to the FBI Academy because Curry refused to take back the assertion that Hosty told Revill in the basement of DPD Headquarters around 3:15 PM, that the FBI knew that Oswald was in Dallas and didn't tell anybody.

Steve Thomas

36 minutes ago, Ed LeDoux said:

You'd have to imagine anyone who knows Oak Cliff would have better sense of rooming establishments 

Cheers,

Ed

Ed,

In his WC testimony,

WC testimony of George Bouhe March 23, 1964

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/bouhe.htm

George Bouhe told the Warren Commission that back in 1962, he thought that Oswald had told him that he (Oswald) had moved into the Carlton boarding house.

"Mr. LIEBELER - Do you know where he moved when he checked out of the YMCA?
Mr. BOUHE - At some point thereabouts he threw at me when I asked, "Where do you live now?" He gave me, if I recall correctly, a name of the Carlton boarding house on Madison Avenue, but it proved to be wrong."

Once upon a time, someone, (and I'm sorry I can't remember who) sent me a clipping from the Want Ad section from one of the Dallas newspapers that showed an room for rent advertisement from Mary Bledsoe's house on Marsalis directly above an ad from the Carlton Boarding House.

I've kicked myself because I didn't keep a copy of that Want Ad page.

I've wondered if Oswald got the idea to look for places to rent in the Want Ad section of the paper, or if Geprge Bouhe got the idea from there to give to the Warren Commission.

Steve Thomas

Doug,

The Secret Service version (CD 87) angered a lot of people because the DPD released a version in January, 1974 of the Tapes that they deemed "only relevant to the assassination". That version left out a lot of things such as the 12:45 PM Dispatcher's instructions to Tippit and Ptm. Nelson to move into the Central Oak Cliff area, and the 12:54 PM imstructions to Tippit to remain in Oak Cliff for any emergency that might come in.

Memorandum by SS Agent Roger Warner and Elmer Moore dated 12/1/63

These became the SS copy of the Dispatch Tapes found in CD 87 beginning on page 636 and running to page 644.

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/J%20Disk/Justice%20Department%20of/Justice%20Department%20of%20JFK-King%20Reinvestigation/Item%2005.pdf

Page 5.

“On November 29, 1963, SA Warner conferred with Chief Lumpkin, Police Department, relative to reports of Police dispatches covering the arrival of President Kennedy in Dallas, Texas, the subsequent assassination and removal of President Kennedy to Parkland Memorial Hospital. These broadcasts were transmitted on Channel 2 which was an auxiliary channel used by the Police for special occasions. Also Chief Lumpkin provided for transcription on our tape the Police recordings of Channel# 1, the standard Police band which on the date of the Presidential assassination contained the Police broadcasts relative to the capture of Lee Harvey Oswald and the shooting of Police Officer Tippit.”

This memo from Warner is on page 339 of CD 87

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10490#relPageId=339&tab=page

Steve Thomas

10 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

 

Steve, looking at the radio transcripts here-- http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/D Disk/Dallas Police Department/Dallas Police Department Records/Volume 04/Item 01.pdf -- I do not see an abrupt change in direction of flight of the killer at 1:34. The first report of direction of the killer is broadcast at 1:19-1:22:

Incidentally the transcription you cite differs from the wording of the one on my link (not sure why, do you know?).

 

Callaway saw the killer run north on Patton all the way to Jefferson and turn right. Warren Reynolds saw the same thing,

Greg,

One quick note. I'm sure you meant to say the witnesses saw the killer run south on Patton and turn right. If he was running north on Patton and turned right, he would be heading east.

As far as the different versions of the Dallas Police Dispatch Tapes, this has vexed researchers over the years. It's been a long time since I looked at this, but to my knowledge, there are at least three different versions. Judging from the version you cited, this looks like it came from CD 87 (the Secret Service copy).

There are:

1) Secret Service Copy CD 87

Went through Deputy Chief Charles Lumpkin

(Dallas Police Department starts at page 637)

Commission Document 87 - Secret Service report of 08 Jan 1964 re: Oswald

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10490#relPageId=637&tab=page

2) FBI Copy CE 705

Went through Inspector Herbert Sawyer

(Starts at page 390)

Warren Commission Hearings Volume XVII

.https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=416

The Warren Commission was frustrated by the two earlier versions because the radio callers were not identified, so in July, 1964, they asked the FBI to work with the Dallas Police Department to identify who the various people were. This resulted in CE 1974, found in Volume XXIII of the Commission Exhibits.

3) CE 1974

Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XXIII

(starting at page 832)

(Commissioned by the Warren Commissio in July, 1964. Identifies the callers)

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1139#relPageId=864

The copy I use is Word document copy found on the McAdams web site. I like the Word document copy because I can copy and paste.

https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/

The Web site says,

“The basis for these audio clips is an especially high-quality recording of the Dallas Police transmissions discovered by David Dix in the Minneapolis Public Library. Copies of this tape are available for sale. The transcript of Channel One is based on a transcript edited by Russ Shearer, and the transcript for Channel Two is from Warren Commission Exhibit 1974 (with some minor revisions).”

Russ Shearer also did a comprehensive list of all the Police Department's badge numbers that he could identify that I have found useful over the years. I've added to it myself.

I would be happy to provide that to anyone who is interested.

Steve Thomas

4 hours ago, Gil Jesus said:

All I'm saying that as a former police officer looking at the EVIDENCE ( the transcripts and the audio ) I didn't see anything sinister. I didn't say it was impossible, I said I didn't SEE anything.

 

Gil,

And just because someone might have been an informant of the FBI, doesn't necessarily mean that that information would be shared with the local police department.

Roy Westphal was a member of The Dallas Police Department's Special Service Bureau.

He told Larry Sneed in the book, No More Silence:

No More Silence

https://books.google.com/books?id=7uT-47ysB5MC&pg=PA326&lpg=PA326&dq=Dallas+%22+Roy+Westphal%22&source=bl&ots=eii6yRhLo8&sig=nr0C2_dukxaBfdcQiFnDLg3ugKM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjt-9Xpi8nRAhVpwFQKHZBBDX0Q6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=Dallas%20%22%20Roy%20Westphal%22&f=false

page 329

Steve Thomas

8 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

Q Was there any other man there?

A Yes there was one on the other side of the street. All I know is he told him to go on. [waves her hand outward]

Q Did the man with the gun make any motion to the man across the street?

A No, he told him to go on. [motions outward]

Q He waved his hand and said go on?

A He said, 'go on'. [waves outward]

Q And then what happened with the man with the gun?

A He unloaded and reloaded.

Q And what did the other man do? 

A The man kept going, down the street.

Q And then did they go in opposite directions?

A Yes they weren't together, they went this way from each other. [extends both arms in opposite directions] The one that did the shooting went this way [extends one arm one way]. The other one went straight down past the street that way [extends other arm the other way]

 

 

Doug,

I have always been fascinated by the abrupt change, or insertion, or whatever you want to call it in the flight of the suspect that was broadcast by the Dispatcher that you find in the Dispatch Tapes at around the 1:34 PM mark.

Up until that moment, all accounts of the suspect's flight, even as late as 1:32PM,  had him running west, either on Jefferson, or in the alley between Jefferson and Tenth.

But, all of a sudden, at 1:34 PM. you have this exchange, and I've thought, "What in the world?"

https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes3.htm

1:34 PM

This was repeated by the Dispatcher 10 minutes later at 1:44 PM.

1::44 PM

Look who is the source of that flight description. William Westbrook.

Did Westbrook talk to Aquila Clemons?

Steve Thomas

Gil,

It has always intrigued me that the two times Oswald went "missing" in his life, he wound up resurfacing in Oak Cliff.

The first was the missing two weeks between October 19-November 3, 1962, and the second time between September 25-October 3, 1963,

in the 1963 incident, Ruth Paine allegedly dropped Oswald off in downtown Dallas on October 7th to look for a job and a place to live, He winds up on foot at Mary Bledsoe's place on Marsalis with clothes on hangers hanging on his back.

Did he go looking for a job carrying his clothes?

Why Oak Cliff?

How did he know so much about the neighborhood  layout?

Steve Thomas

To James DiEugenio:

Jim,

David Joseph replied to a Thread in the Education Forum entitled, “When was Oswald first ID'd as a government informant? (page 3 of that thread) I think he was replying to Jim Hargrove. back in 2018.

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/24744-when-was-oswald-first-idd-as-a-government-informant/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-373751

“Jim... there's a 2nd page to that report in John's file

3114 Harlendale? “

This would only a couple of doors down from the 3126 Harlendale address where the Dallas Chapter of the SNFC/Alpha 66 people were meeting.

Steve Thomas

Stay away from rock concerts.

Boardmasters festival: New Delta strain believed to have emerged among 53,000 revellers at Cornwall event

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/boardmasters-festival-new-delta-strain-cornwall-event-1172393

“Almost 5,000 infections have been linked to the Boardmasters festival in Cornwall, and with half a million music lovers at even larger events over the Bank Holiday, officials fear revellers are being hit by a new strain of the Delta variant.”

“While it is being referred to among hospital staff in Devon and Cornwall as the “festival variant”, it is believed to be a new strain of Delta rather than an entirely new variant. Delta already has around a dozen different strains.

“It’s still the Delta variant but they can say it came from the festival, hence why it is being called the ‘festival variant’,” added the official.

The South-west peninsula now home to eight of the top ten areas in England with the highest rates of infection. The figures also show that around half of all infections in England are among those under 30, with the highest rate of infection now in the 10 to 19-year-old age bracket.”

Kid Rock cancels shows after 'over half' of his band catches COVID-19 in wake of Sturgis performance

Bt Matthew Chapman August 30, 2021

https://www.rawstory.com/kid-rock-covid/

Steve Thomas

3 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

(d) Finally, and the reason I post this, is to give a second photo of the real Masen, this one from his sophomore high school class in 1956, which I have not found available otherwise on the internet, simply as a convenience for others interested. This photo is from the Mark Bridger 2004 article cited above, and this photo and that article are available on the Mary Ferrell site (https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=16255#relPageId=28).

 

 

Greg,

I do not want to hijack Jim's article on the FPCC, but I was intrigued by the attire that Masen and the other two guys are wearing in this photo. They look like Army private's caps.

In his article, Mark wrote that Masen was "...a captain and received ribbons galore...", but he doesn't say a captain in what.

Mark also wrote that, "“He was also a Woodrow Wilson Ranger for two years and attended Camp Dallas for three years) p.26.

[Site map of Camp Wolters and Camp Dallas]

Portal to Texas History

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth288608/

Description

"Map shows original Camp Wolters Texas National Guard camp, Camp Dallas, and roads and facilities of enlarged Camp Wolters; includes segregated area for "colored" infantry regiment.”

I could not find any reference to “Woodrow Wilson Ranger” in Google, or The Portal to Texas History.

I'm wondering if Masen was in the Texas State Guard Reserve Corps or the Texas National Guard as an ROTC student.

Steve Thomas

Wisconsin School District Ditches Free Meals So Students Don’t ‘Become Spoiled’

by Rachel Olding Published Aug. 27, 2021

https://www.thedailybeast.com/waukesha-school-district-ditches-free-meals-so-students-dont-become-spoiled?ref=home?ref=home

“In a cruel move that has shocked many parents, the Waukesha School District Board opted earlier this year to end its federally funded program to give free meals to all students. One board member, Karin Rajnicek, said the free, universal program made it too easy for families to “become spoiled” while Darren Clark, the assistant superintendent for business services, worried that families could develop an “addiction” to the service. During the pandemic, the district had signed up for a federal program that funded meals for all students, regardless of economic status, but it has now voted to return to its pre-pandemic program in which students have to apply and receive federal money for meals. About 900 parents and teachers have banded together to oppose the move, calling it insensitive and out of touch.”

God forbid the peasants have food. They might get uppity.

Steve Thomas

Embattled 'We Build the Wall' group admits they can't pay lawyer after raising millions: report

by Tom Boggioni August 27, 2021

https://www.rawstory.com/we-build-the-wall-group/

“According to a report from Fox News 8, the people behind the crowdsourced "We Build the Wall" group who claim on their website that they have pledges for $25 million to build part of Donald Trump's ill-fated border wall along the Texas border are now pleading poverty and claiming they can't pay their attorneys.

The group, whose advisory board includes former Trump advisers Steve Bannon and Kris Kobach, as well as wealthy Blackwater founder Eric Prince, has reportedly been stiffing their legal representation, leading McAllen, Texas lawyer David Oliveira to request withdrawing as one of their attorneys."

“With the judge granting Oliveria's request and telling Kobach he needs to find new lawyers, the former Trump adviser told the judge, "It might be expensive and few of us have the assets right now to cover a retainer. So we are willing to let counsel step aside but we would like a fairly generous bit of time to find local counsel and also perhaps have a picture of what it involves," only to have Judge Crane admonish him by stating, "This case just keeps getting delayed and delayed; 90 days seems like a long time."

"Finding a lawyer I don't think is a big problem. I think finding a lawyer who is willing to risk not getting paid is probably the issue here."”

And the grift goes on.

The grift goes on.

Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain....

Steve Thomas

Trump's Border Wall Torn Apart by Arizona Monsoon Rains

"Record monsoon rains have blown floodgates off their hinges as Trump's border wall breaks down."

By Brian Kahn Sunday 2:10PM

https://gizmodo.com/trumps-border-wall-torn-apart-by-arizona-monsoon-rains-1847535174?utm_source=digg

“Much of the work was outsourced to private companies that raked in billions, including Southwest Valley Constructors, which did most of the work in Arizona. The company pulled in $2.7 billion in federal contracts and has faced lawsuits from private landowners who claim explosions tied to construction sent “car-sized boulders” onto their land. (There are also multiple OSHA complaints against the company, which is a whole other issue.) The location near San Bernardino Wildlife Refuge is one of a growing number of chinks in the rushed wall. Another section in Texas where levees were destroyed has left hundreds of thousands exposed to catastrophic flooding.”

Steve Thomas

Jon Cooper @joncoopertweets 8/22/21

https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1429791281320906753

“I see soon-to-be-dead people.”

Steve Thomas

'She failed the country': Fox News host explains why Afghanistan is Jill Biden's fault

by David Edwards August 22, 2021

https://www.rawstory.com/rachel-campos-duffy-jill-biden/

If she had been a better wife...

Steve Thomas

The Middle East is running out of water, and parts of it are becoming uninhabitable

By Frederik Pleitgen, Claudia Otto, Angela Dewan and Mohammed Tawfeeq, CNN

Updated 12:08 AM ET, Sun August 22, 2021

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/22/middleeast/middle-east-climate-water-shortage-iran-urmia-intl/index.html

This map shows the most water-stressed areas in the Middle East. The large country in the middle is Iran. To its east is Afghanistan, To its west is Iraq. To its north are the oil-rich Central Asian countries we have been talking about.

“The consequences of water becoming even scarcer are dire: Areas could become uninhabitable; tensions over how to share and manage water resources like rivers and lakes could worsen; more political violence could erupt.”

Steve Thomas