Pamela Brown

On 4/28/2023 at 1:29 PM, David Whelan said:

 

 

 Stop wasting our time. I have reported you.

Why not simply put him on ignore and move on?

2 hours ago, David Whelan said:

The truth is finally coming out.

https://davidwhelan.substack.com/

Including what was happening prior to the assassination...

3 hours ago, Pete Mellor said:

It wasn’t until 1983, when journalist Jim Gaines got to interview Mark Chapman in prison and conducted lengthy audio interviews with him, that Perdomo’s name surfaced to the world. In a subsequent 1987 People magazine article, Gaines wrote:

At the Dakota, Chapman had only the Dakota’s night doorman, José Perdomo, to keep him company. José was an anti-Castro Cuban, and they talked that night of the Bay of Pigs and the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

Directly after the shooting, as public & press began gathering outside on the street, Perdomo stated he did not want to be outside as doorman, and got one of the other Dakota staff to work as doorman.  So Perdomo was never seen or interviewed or photographed by press.

Also, Perdomo was supposed to have given a statement to police and D.A. in N.Y. but this has never seen the light of day.

There are links on the google group rmb about this:

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.beatles/c/j2c_RQuTpec/m/eumiKfXKNg0J

On 4/25/2023 at 2:04 PM, David Whelan said:

Your rudeness is tiresome and telling Michael.

If you believe Lennon's assassination could not have any relevance to the JFK and RFK assassinations, why engage in a thread that has the subject implied in the title?

This JFK forum is a wide church with a myriad of subjects. if the subject is not to your liking - why join the thread? 

Please do not mistake my desire for a separate Lennon murder thread, as an implied admission that the subject has no relevance to other famous assassinations of the 1960's. As RFK Jr has often stated, a brain-washed patsy and a second shooter set-up, was a very real possibility in his father's assassination. It also is a very real possibility in John Lennon's murder.

We may come to see that we can't fully comprehend the forces that eliminated JFK until we understand what really happened to John Lennon. However, the connection is deep, so keeping an open mind is essential...

We need to understand what happened to John Lennon and why...

https://inbroaddaylight.wordpress.com/2022/01/01/was-the-untimely-death-of-john-lennon-another-murder-most-foul/

21 hours ago, Pete Mellor said:

Nah Pam, not so.  Back In the U.S.S.R., the Ukraine girls really knock me out, they leave the West behind.  Marina was a prostitute for KGB, she was directed to Oswald, who fell in love and married her.  She was a reluctant spy for Minsk KGB to report on the American defector.  It is apparent that she hit on Robert Webster too.  Even though Lee & Marina had KGB links in Minsk, both severed these links on their arrival in U.S.  Lee had completed his 'dangle' and Marina wanted out of the poverty. 

Er...Pete...my name is Pamela.  "Pam"  happens to be an altar persona created through trauma-based mind control.

Oh, thanks for the Beatles' cite too.  Charming...

Your opinion about Marina, I don't think we are in disagreement. There is a name now for what the Russian girls were doing...red robin, or something like that. Honey traps.

On 4/17/2023 at 12:03 PM, Jonathan Cohen said:

I find your interpretation of these events to be highly illogical. Although his behavior was erratic, Oswald was not trying to "distance himself" from his wife. If anything, he was doing whatever he could to find work and support his family, as evidenced by Marina having joined him in New Orleans as soon as he got a job there.

He went to NOLA to go under the radar with the Dallas FBI after the Walker incident.  

He didn't bother to tell Marina when he was fired from Reily Coffee.

He sent Marina with Ruth while he went to Mexico City so he wouldn't have to pay to take care of her.

I don't see these things as indicative of his making supporting Marina a top priority. 

On 4/17/2023 at 10:38 AM, David Von Pein said:

David Von Pein said:

 

You think Marina's testimony was the sole basis for the WC finding LHO guilty of two murders? Come now. Let's not forget about the dozens of other things pointing to Lee Oswald's guilt, outlined here:

 

I think the WCR was created around her testimony, and when she recanted, it collapsed like a house of cards...

4 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Pamela,

There is that.

Also, Marina was a Cancer, and Lee was a Libra. Their astrological signs were squared. They would find it really, really hard to get along.

Steve Thomas

Well, that settles it!

3 hours ago, David Von Pein said:

No, she didn't. She just changed her opinion about whether LHO killed JFK (after she had been inundated, no doubt, with various crackpot [and unsupported] conspiracy theories over the years).

But Marina never "recanted" any substantive facts relating to Lee Oswald -- such as the two major facts that many conspiracy theorists, still to this day, think Marina was lying about:

1. Lee admitting to Marina that he had taken a shot at General Walker.

and

2. Marina confirming that she took the backyard photos of LHO.

 

What a silly statement that is.

 

Marina's recanting nullified the WCR in my book.  Why do you see that as 'silly'? 

3 hours ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

Distance himself from her? What are you talking about?

He did not live with Marina on their return to Texas, and tried to have her sent back to the USSR. 

Marina was the WCR.  She had claimed Lee had killed JFK and taken a pot-shot at Gen. Walker. 

When Marina recanted her WC testimony there was no more WCR.  

However, Marina's recanting may have been done to attract the CT crowd...which it did, for some time.

Then Judyth was trotted out, to take on the CTs from another direction.

I consider all of this part of the ongoing coverup...

21 hours ago, Bob Ness said:

Ludicrous is strong. It's not. Speculative? Sure. Marina or any Russian entering the US at that time would and should be suspect. The US was the largest theater of operations for the KGB at the time. Probably still is.

Saying there is no evidence is fair (I'm not aware of any) but the idea isn't exactly "flying saucers". It's quite possible.

I think LHO realized there was more to Marina than he knew, and for that reason kept trying to distance himself from her...

On 4/14/2023 at 10:35 AM, Jonathan Cohen said:

I'm sorry, but that is a ludicrous statement with ZERO hard evidence to back it up - particularly that a woman in Marina's Texas-era situation would be seen as an asset to any intelligence operation.

That reply seems a bit over-the-top. 

This happens to be simply an assertion.  

It seems to me that LHO was just dangling himself.  The Soviets did not want him, and I think this was a harsh reality for him.  

But LHO was tracked by intelligence by the CIA/FBi, KGB, also French, Cuban and possible Israeli.  

James Hosty told me that if there was a spy in the family, it was Marina.  I agree with that...

Marina was the spy and George DeM was a conduit...

On 4/3/2023 at 8:21 AM, Charles Blackmon said:

"A researcher by the name of Mark Shaw who investigated Kilgallen’s death found that she was under surveillance by the FBI" 

I read one of the books about Dorothy Kilgallen. The only thing I could pick up from her story that would arouse the interest of the FBI would be: her contacts with Ruby, and her remarks about the JFKA in her weekly column. Decide for yourself why that would merit being surveilled by a passel of G-men. 

She managed to get on the wrong side of Hoover...

https://nypost.com/2016/12/04/dorothy-kilgallens-tell-all-on-a-mafia-don-might-have-got-her-killed/

15 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

Whatever Ruby shared with Kilgallen, soon enough she told her hairdresser/confidant she had to make a trip to New Orleans which inspired enough fear in her she mentioned arming herself during it.

I believe Ruby more probably mentioned the Mafia and even the powerful Godfather Carlos Marcello to her.

And remember also that Ruby ended up with famed attorney Melvin Belli as his main legal counsel. His attorney through his trial.

You do know that Belli was considered ( or at least rumored) by many to be a Mafia connected attorney don't you?

I personally believe that connection meant a lot more to the Ruby story than is generally reported.

Could be. Or it might be something even more secret than that.

Whatever it was, the planned trip may have cost her her life...

https://arapahoenews.com/12462/uncategorized/dorothy-kilgallen-reporter-cloaked-in-controversy/

On 3/30/2023 at 10:26 PM, Joe Bauer said:

And don't forget Ruby's jail house meeting with the famous Dorothy Kilgallen.

Whatever Ruby shared with Kilgallen, she came away from that meeting more charged up and determined than ever to "solve" the case.

Ruby must have given her some really intriguing info.

Made up...or not.

I have to wonder if he clued her in about a possible "Jewish Mafia" connection to events surrounding the assassination and its cover-up...

Stone himself said JFK was myth/countermyth to the WCR.  He has artistic license to create his own reality.  It is pointless to attack it...

On 3/26/2023 at 8:47 PM, Pamela Brown said:

Jack Ruby may be one of the most important witnesses to the cover-up.  

Let me amplify this statement. I think Jack Ruby was correct to reference a "Jewish Mafia" involvement in the assassination and cover-up.  However, I see these people as fake Jews. They are vicious. 

If Ruby had been allowed to go to DC in order to be able to speak freely to Chief Justice Warren, we might have learned about things that have been concealed...

3 hours ago, Marjan Rynkiewicz said:

Yes i have been re-reading Fetzer's stuff -- & watching his youtubes --  he mentions every factoid possible. But nowhere duz he get very close to any important fact.

I agree.  He has made it difficult to know what actually happened to the limo...

9 hours ago, Pete Mellor said:

Oh well Michael, allow me.

Mossad figure and future Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, (in November '63), was then a high ranking military officer, purportedly on a military briefing tour, was in Dallas at the time of JFK's assassination, according to Rabin's widow.  (Final Judgment-Michael Collins Piper) 

'What has been shown beyond a reasonable doubt, at any rate, is that Angleton, the central CIA player in the plot, was in reality more controlled by Mossad than by CIA itself.' (The Unspoken Kennedy Truth-Laurent Guyenot)

AND, let's not forget that Mr Ruby was a Yiddish speaking Rubenstein who told both his rabbi and his defence lawyer, "I did it for the Jews."  It was Jack who when stalking after Oswald in the Dallas Police Dept., was posing as a news reporter with a number of Yiddish speaking out of town, supposed journalists.

AND, George DeMohrenschildt was found dead with a bullet through his head.  It was ruled a suicide, but the Sherriff's report mentions that in his last months he complained that 'the Jews' and 'Jewish mafia' were out to get him.  His wife also told Jim Marrs that her husband thought that 'the Jewish Mafia' were out to get him.

 

 

Jack Ruby may be one of the most important witnesses to the cover-up.  

6 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

Yes, laughable.

An auto body garage damages the premier presidential limo that noticeably and doesn't mention it or offer to repair it? Years before 11,22,1963?

And all the care takers, movers and drivers of it between the proposed garage damage time frame and 11,22,1963 never notice it and/or considered it worthy of mention and repair?

Pamela, you are our forum's most respected research authority on the presidential limo.

Do you have any doubts regards the indentation damage being created before 11,22,1963?

Here's the cite. Rowley says Nov 1st in NYC:

http://ss100x.com/Rowley3.gif

It looks to me like that dent happened on 11.22.63.  The only thing I can't account for is if the SS men who put the roof back on the limo messed up somehow. I don't think that is likely...

2 hours ago, Marjan Rynkiewicz said:

Fetzer index mentions hole in windshield but not hole in floor. I  wonder if anyone on this forum has any info re the hole in the floor. 

I could have a look to see if a shot from the roof of the records building would have a clear path to the floor -- i reckon that on that angle it would not have a clear path unless the jfklimo was much closer.

But let us assume that the hole was from a shot from the roof of the records  building -- then how would u explain the 2 half jacket fragments found in the jfklimo?

Fetzer is devoted to creating rabbit trails about the limo...proceed with caution...

18 hours ago, Michael Crane said:

What is hard to see is the arrow pointing to the hole in the chrome windshield frame.

Look almost halfway down from the top in the middle to spot the hole in the frame.About 4 to 5 inches to the right of the visor (on the left) & a few inches up

Chief Rowley tried to pass it off as happening in a garage in NYC...