Pamela Brown
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I am also among those wondering just who is this 'guest' who is posting a thread in the EF? And on a topic that tends to be controversial?
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On 7/11/2023 at 11:10 AM, Calvin Ye said:
The book Secret War Against Jews implied that the Jews blackmailed Angleton into becoming an Zionist
Care to provide a page number for this?
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On 7/4/2023 at 6:33 PM, Marjan Rynkiewicz said:
I have already told. Hickey shot jfk.
That would be a surprise!
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On 7/5/2023 at 3:34 PM, Paul Brancato said:
You know, surely, that the author himself says things that aren’t true, that it’s a hit piece. Conspiracy theory as a term might date back, but weaponizing it was clearly the intention of the CIA in the memo we have all seen. What are your thoughts on RFK Jr?
Politically speaking, I see RFK Jr. as a breath of fresh air in a sea of bleeding-heart liberals...
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On 7/6/2023 at 4:30 AM, Robert Burrows said:
Another Dylan lyric seems apropos to this discussion...
Democracy don’t rule the world,
You’d better get that in your head.
This world is ruled by violence;
But I guess that’s better left unsaid.
(Bob Dylan- Union Sundown)
Amazing.
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10 hours ago, Mark Knight said:
Several US Presidents over the years have promised transparency regarding the JFK records. But once elected, their positions changed.
Which begs the question: what changed their position? CIA arguments? Pressure? Threats?
If so, where's the guarantee that RFK Jr. wouldn't also succumb to such tactics if elected? I fail to see any such guarantee. After all, "they" [whomever "they" might be] have already killed more than one Kennedy; to "them," what's one more?
Until there's a bulletproof Kennedy, my opinion on this won't change.
I agree. There seems to be some sort of deal that each Pres has to agree to...
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1 hour ago, Pamela Brown said:
A lot of the files being withheld have to do with Lee Oswald. One possibility is that there may be evidence that RFK was directly involved in monitoring Lee Oswald's activities...
Another example is Pres. Obama appointing Caroline Kennedy Ambassador to Japan by 2013 so she would have reason to be out of the country during the 50th frenzy...Pres. Obama also refused to release the remaining files...
Ironically (which I suspected from LBJ's treatment of Jackie after the JFK assassination) the deal might be that 'we will protect the Kennedy name, library, et, to the extent of withholding documents that might forever damage the family's reputation, as long as none of you seek after high office ever again''. If that is the case, it will be especially interesting to see if and how RFK Jr. manages to, hopefully, make his way out of this quagmire...
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8 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Biden, by his snuff job on the JFK Records, is only acting as a kept creature of the security state, and little more.
I think there is something else going on...
I guess time will tell...
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19 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Joe Biden is the type who would eschew and disown his own grand-daughter for reasons of political expediency.
I think we can rule out Biden having concern for RFK Jr., a man who wants to boot the President out of the Oval Office.
I'm referencing Biden's protecting RFK, not RFK Jr.
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Have we discussed Morley's article on Bob Dylan's Murder Most Foul? It fits right in to this discussion...
https://lithub.com/what-bob-dylan-does-or-doesnt-know-about-the-assassination-of-jfk/
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1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said:
Biden is a guy who has a bust of RFK in the oval office and. he had a wall portrait of JFK in his study.
And then he does something like this.
Which is beyond understanding in any normal way.
Did the CIA get to Biden? Or will he give the same excuse as Trump did to Napolitano: If you had seen what I saw judge, you would have donethe same thing.
I think Biden may think he is protecting RFK, perhaps at the expense of the whole truth about what happened toJFK...
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Biden continues to show a bust of RFK in his talks from the Oval Room. I have to wonder if he is stonewalling release of the rest of the JFK documents because they contain information about RFK that he does not want released to the public...
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FYI World War I can trace its origins to this day, Jun 28, in 1941 as a result of the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife, in an open-air limousine of its time, by a lone nut gunman, who was, however, acknowledged to be part of a conspiracy intended to overthrow the monarchy of the Austro-Hungarian Empire...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand
Assassins were placed along the motorcade route...all had failed until the limousine made an unexpected turn to the right...
Sound familiar?
However, in this case, instead of destroying an empire, the assassinations ended up turning the known world upside down...
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23 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
From Jim Garrison to Richard Sprague, to Oliver Stone to RFK Jr.
I detect a pattern.
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7 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:
You know Pamela, when Jim Douglass brought this up in his book, people thought he was full of it.
But its true, Kennedy did want to do a joint mission.
This is why people are amazed watching that speech.
It is now over 2000 comments.
I agree. We have to take into account also the mindset of the military at that time. They were trigger-happy, and had no confidence in JFK after the BOP.
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Peace with the USSR was just the tip of the iceberg. The only way the US could get to the moon was to unite the two groups of Von Braun's physicists who had been separated at the end of WWII. This secret backchanneling was considered treasonous by some...
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2 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:
It was rumor reported that RFK Jr.'s dad didn't "publicly" disagree with the Warren Commission because he felt that the right way and time to really get to the truth was only after he became president.
The forces he was up against until then were just that too powerful.
Hoover, LBJ, Helms, Military, MI Complex, Big Oil, Mafia, Segregationists, etc.
Only as President could he truly have the power to over-ride those other competing forces.
RFK was playing his true intent cards close to his vest even if it made him appear oddly submissive to millions of Americans who wanted him to go after his brother's killers with a sword in hand bugle charge.
And, again reportedly, RFK also wanted Jim Garrison's investigation to be deflated for similar reasons.
RFK Jr.s bold, public straight for the jugular national news rocking claims about the CIA as one of his main campaign messages right out of the gate begs several questions for me.
I don't think anyone who makes the Earth shaking charges he is making could ever be elected President.
The majority of our society fear going that far with such scary responsibility demanding subjects.
Heck, they don't want to deal with a super violent attack on our own Capital building full of our Congress and the Vice President by a massive death chanting mob of crazies. They don't want to deal with charging and perhaps holding accountable our own president for inciting the life and death trauma fear attack and then allowing it to go on for hours when he could have stopped it in 5 minutes.
I could see RFK Jr. keeping his hot claim hat in the ring up to a certain point.
But, going as far as a Ralph Nader 3rd candidate run will guarantee a Republican win next November/24 imo.
RFK Jr. ( just by the still heroic Kennedy name alone ) could pull away 10 million votes or more.
But not "one" would be from the Trump Republican base.
There are no independent Republican voters.
I also see RFK in a very difficult position. He wanted to get to the truth his way. He had to control the ongoing coverup.
RFK was involved in fighting against the mob, which included in Dallas and NOLA. Jim Garrison was a threat for that reason. Things could hit too close to home if RFK did not quash the Garrison investigation. His chances of being elected could have been decimated...Ironically, this seems to have backfired...
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I don't see the CIA per se as responsible for the Kennedy assassinations, as much as certain well-placed people within it, who may be keeping their intentions secret from the others...
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12 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:
Anticipated, by RFKJR.
Which means he is deliberately throwing himself to the wolves...just like his father did.
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IMO, those at the heart of the Ongoing Coverup will not allow a Kennedy to hold high office...slander is just the beginning...
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7 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:
Pamela, you and your family were eating Swanson TV dinners in front of the TV at that hour?
Early lunch?
Must say your family had class. Swanson had some real gourmet selections back then.
I've been eating foil tray TV dinners all my life.
I consider myself somewhat a microwave meal gourmand now at the ripe old age of 72.
Stouffers is consistently good.
Their meat lasagna is a favorite.
Marie Callender is fairly good.
Banquet? Hard to pass on their 10 dishes for $10 specials.
I've pondered having a JFK assassination anniversary talk event here in Monterey/Carmel, CA. from time to time.
We have an older age and fairly well off demographic here. I am sure many lived through the event.
I would think the State Theater on Alvarado would be a good venue for this?
Or the Lecture forum or drama theater at our Monterey Peninsula Junior College?
The Sunset center in Carmel is nice but very expensive.
Our local Hyatt Regency hotel has great convention meeting rooms.
I know several regular members here live in Calif. Kirk, Jim Di, Joseph McBride.
Wouldn't be hard for them to get here.
I wouldn't speak. Just coordinate others to do so.
Wish I had the big bucks. Enough to pay our members to speak and arrange and pay for their transportation and lodging and meals.
I think our speakers would love dining at such fine Carmel restaurants as "Casanovas", Clint Eastwood's "Mission Ranch" with a view of Carmel Bay, or "Terry's Lounge" in Doris Day's ( now passed on ) hotel..."The Cypress Inn."
Monterey has a fine restaurant called "Tarpys" as well.
Oh well...maybe I'll win the Lotto soon and we could make this happen.
My parents were originally from South Dakota, so their idea of 'class' might have been a bit tacky...
But yes, it was Swanson TV chicken dinners that day while we watched Lee Oswald shot. That was horrible. I don't think I've eaten one of those dinners since.
Carmel is gorgeous. I was there a long time ago. We went to Napenthe for one evening...
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22 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:
Yes, I agree. The book that I am writing about Watergate by necessity brings in the JFK assassination as both presidents were removed by different means for the same reason, which is never acknowledged.
That sounds intriguing...
CAN WE EXCLUDE BEN-GURION / HIS ISRAELI GOVERNMENT FROM THE JFKA SUSPECTS?
in JFK Assassination Debate
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Interesting...