Michael Clark

Duplicate deleted ****edit. Actually, I might as well put this post to a good use. David, Jim. Could you guys show each other some respect and address each other as each of you would like to be addressed, please? This kind of nonsense infects and spreads throughout the forum.

It appears that Bernard Barker's Cryptonym was AMCLATTER 1 A godd deal of information on AMCATTER 1 /Barker https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10164-10000.pdf

I think this speaks to the culpability of Nixon in the assassination of JFK; "The whole Bay of Pigs" thing. When Barker gets caught at Watergate, with McCord, Hunt, et al, It would have been a direct threat to follow through on "liberating" Cuba. If you see Dorothy Hunt's death as a murder, you have the answer to that threat. I don't think that answer came from Nixon, who I believe would have liked to fulfill the obligation to the Cuban exiles and Mafia interests. I believe that answer came from racists and evangelicals, who did not care to see a free, Mafia-infested, Catholic, Spanish-speaking, mulatto, black and Hispanic dominated Cuba; that answer also came from the Navy who foresaw the loss of Guantanamo Bay in any normalization of relations with that same, free, and independent Cuba.

Bernard Barker has similar background.. USAF Captain and CIA. P. 49 below. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10164-10000.pdf How tightly can we link Landsdale, McCord and Barker; if we can at all?

A substantial PDF with much information on AMCLATTER-1 https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10164-10000.pdf P. 49... substantial background information. USAF captain.

Barker's Crypto appears to be AMCLATTER-1

This interests me because it circles around James McCord Jr., as CIA pointman in the infiltration of the FPCC.

Some off-topic discussion regarding LHO in Montreal in this thread.

RFK: The TFX, Have you been watching that? The newspapermen think that there's something there. They think that something funny went on." JFK: " Well you know what went ON, nobody wanted to go to Topeka, Kansas! That's all that went on!" at 3:15

I am thinking that the oil and MIC money that was flowing, or about to flow, into Dallas was the "dominant current" in 1963. JFK thought that the TFX contract was about to be shipped to Kansas. JFK was about to pull the rug out from under contracts for 10,000 helicopters that would not be needed in Asia. JFK was challenging the KKK. JFK was Catholic. And, the Dallas Police were, according to you, Paul, all "radical right", and that is what got The President killed, and the crime covered-up? Earl Cabell was the mayor of Dallas. A year later he would be a Texas State Representative. Earle Cabell was........... CIA. And a few hundred Dallas Cops were running the show, and killed the United States President, and were able to cover it up? And, according to you, Paul, David Morales, Howard Hunt and David Atlee Phillips (All CIA), along with Bannister (FBI) and Antonio Veciana, all were prime movers in the plot to Asssassinate JFK? But Dallas cops "were the dominant current"? What about the mob? Where do the "currents"' of the mafia flow and eddy around your men in blue. I know, I know, the CIA guys were on lunch break. I have heard your story about that. But, what about the rest, Paul?

USGS Topo maps of New York and New England http://docs.unh.edu/nhtopos/nhtopos.htm

Something that I think would be hugely important to the forum, and to John Simkin's Spartacus site as well, is to fix the Spartacus links that have migrated away from the schoolnet URL and which no longer work. If someone had the desire, time and the trust of John, perhaps John would give that person his EF credentials and could go through his posts and fix his links.

Thanks Joe. It has been posted. Sorry for the delay.long day today Mike

This story is from member, Joe Bauer I give up trying the links you provide for me to send this to you otherwise. I did so and I received a notice saying my e-mail didn't get through. I will only leave this posting up long enough for one of you to copy it as it is not in context with the forum's JFK theme. I would not normally even post something so removed from our forum mission. But I want you two to see and read this story enough to risk posting it for an hour or two until I hear you have copied it. I hope other members allow this posting for the brief time I ask. I will remove it no later than one or two hours from now. To anyone who reads this account, please forgive my lack of writing skills. I hope they aren't so bad they detract from the story. Also, I am sure some readers will assume that there is an inference in my story that it involves possible UFO and ET entities. If this subject is a turn off for you then just don't read this. However, I will say ahead of time that I do not know what my family's experience was caused or influenced by. It was the end of August 1997? My family and I lived in a home in an exclusive area of the Central California Coast named Pebble Beach. Pebble Beach is a high income resort community ( the Pebble Beach golf course is located there ) that is nestled among huge tracts of native Pine trees. It is as much a nature preserve as it is a community of homes. It was purposely planned and laid out to blend with nature and the surrounding forest and is without sidewalks and street lights. Resident's homes are surrounded by this thick Pine tree forest. Our home had open forest on 3 sides and just one home maybe 50 years to our South side. It was "out there" if you will. This one warm late August evening we all went to bed as usual. 10:PM or so. Our two young children ( age 12 and 10 ) had their own upstairs bedrooms as did my wife and I. At just around 2:AM I was awakened. Not by a sound...but by a light shining into my room so bright I had to hold my hand to my eyes to keep from being totally blinded by it. This light was coming through our upstairs hallway windows facing the street above us. I was sleepy headed enough for the next 30 to 60 seconds after first seeing this light, that I just didn't know what to make of it. I was actually frozen in confused contemplation. Now, remember, we had no street lights anywhere near our home. At night it is typically so dark outside with the tall forest trees, you can't see anything without a flashlight or car headlights. A light this bright is just unheard of in our neck of the woods. This light seemed to be coming in from above the street next to us ( 75 feet away ) which was elevated itself from our property at maybe a 20% angle. The light was so bright my imagination considered that perhaps there were many emergency response vehicles ( fire trucks, police cars, etc. ) right outside our property shining every flood light they had directly on to our home. But within seconds of this thought I realized that there was "absolutely no sound" anywhere in, outside our home. There clearly weren't any vehicles with motors running near us. I also imagined one or two of those huge Hollywood movie premier lamps being directed onto our home. The kind that send beams high up into the sky and can be seen for miles? That silly thought dissipated seconds later. I was just left in baffled wonder. This light that was filling our home and my open door upstairs bedroom had a strange color to it. The best I can describe it is to compare it to the kind of light a welder's torch makes. It wasn't slightly and warmly yellow toned like our daylight sun and most lamps or lights. It had a stark cold blue/white look. And I might add ominously, the kind of light one sees when viewing documentaries of the moon landing. Just cold white. One may wonder why I didn't just leap out of bed and run out into our upstairs hallway to look directly through our windows to see what was shining this light. Honestly, I didn't do so out of a combination of sleepy laziness mixed with confusion and eventually awe and with some apprehension as well. I'll admit I was somewhat rattled and frankly afraid to jump into this light's direct path. It was about 2 minutes after this light first awakened me that I heard my wife stir in her bedroom next door. This silent but blinding light was so bright, just it's brightness through the crack underneath her closed bedroom door had awakened her as well. I heard her say to herself..."what is that light?" No coward like me, as soon as the light awakened her my wife got up to see what was illuminating this. I heard her door knob turning and at exactly that point this surreal bright blue/white light ... just blinked off! And as it did, every electrical appliance and device in our home quit working at the same time. My wife walked into my room, sleepy and perplexed like me, and sat down on the edge of my bed and repeated her question..."what was that incredibly bright light?" In my rattled state I said simply..."I have no idea." We realized nothing electrical worked as the light switches didn't function. The sound of our refrigerator stopped. Our clock radios no longer shown their lights. We soon felt the need to check on our children down the hall. We got a flashlight ( which did work) and walked down and first shined this on our son. He was lying facing away from us but obviously asleep. Our daughter next door was also asleep and apparently fine. My wife and I went back to her bedroom to just think about things. We were now awake enough that going back to sleep wasn't an immediate option. We were concerned enough about this weird, strange event that we tried the phone. It worked. We immediately called the Pebble Beach Security people at the gate of entry about a half mile away. We asked them if they had also experienced this bright lite and electrical interruption. We asked them if any other residents had called in about this. They said no to all of these questions. Then, about ten minutes after this event first occurred, our lights and electricity just blinked back on! More weirdness. Now, we had power lines above our property on the street side. I had given at least some thought that maybe this light was the result of "arcing" wires due to squirrels running onto these? I even asked my long time electrical power company employed brother about this possible scenario. He told me that high tension lines certain can and do arc. Especially when it is wet outside and something touches them such as a bird of squirrel or even wet broken limbs. And he said this could be very bright and have that blue/white quality. But, August is one of our driest months here in California. So there was no wetness anywhere including the trees. No wind or broken limbs either. But he also said that if something made these lines arc, it would not be a steady two minute or longer illumination. It would be a broken unsteady one. And whatever animal may have contacted and sparked these wires would be fried within seconds and probably fall to the ground. My wife and I eventually got tired from worrying about all this strangeness and went back to bed. The next morning ( a Saturday ) my wife and I got up early, before our children, and as my wife began to prepare eggs and bacon for breakfast and I started reading our morning news paper, we heard footsteps coming down the stairs to where we were in the kitchen and living room. We didn't immediately look up, until we heard our son say tiredly..."Man, I had the worst nose bleed of my life last night." We looked up and were stunned to see his face from the nose down and much of the front of his T-shirt...covered in dried blood! Shocked, we attended to him and soon went back up to his room. His pillow was also covered in blood. Since we looked in on our son at about 2:15 am earlier that morning, this "nose bleed" had to have occurred between then and when he got out of bed to see and tell us what he awoke to. Also, I had to mention to my wife that I never recalled our son ever getting a nose bleed. She affirmed this memory. Well, what does one make of such a strange story like this? I have no strong idea myself as to what caused this event. But, it an absolutely true story...and one strange ( or maybe even scary ) enough to share with readers who enjoy these kinds of tales. Last fun little strangeness story. Maybe 10 to 12 years ago I read an obituary in the San Francisco Chronicle. It was fairly long and well written. Obviously by a relative of the deceased. It was glowing in it's loving remembrance of this elderly man's very accomplished and giving life. It was a very straight forward account. Not overly emotional. One written by someone literate. They said their father was surrounded by his very large family when he passed. But the very last paragraph stopped me. I have to assume the writer must have debated whether to put this into their account. It did not adhere to the remembrance context of the rest of the Obit. The writer wrote..."the second my father passed away...every clock in the residence stopped working." Whoa...now there's a strange tale.

Also, I would like to ask another question. Since David Josephs "vacation" was partly due to a misunderstanding, it is possible that that has happened before. When a member disappears there is usually nothing said about it, I assume that I must not be aware of what transpired, and that it is none of my business. But, there could be members who could very well come back, and there "vacation" was due to a misunderstanding or it was only supposed to be brief. My question is: Do you mind being asked about such things? Publicly or privately? Publicly addressing it makes some sense so that other members don't have to wonder about the same question. Perhaps having some indicator on their profile would make it clear.

That's fine Joe. You could PM your email addy if you like as well. Cheers, Michael

Thanks Kirk. I do want to check out the background sources for the claim that McCord was CIA in 63 and head of the FPCC infiltration program. That to me is huge. I don't understand how it gets so little attention, unless the claims are not well substantiated. The Wikipedia footnote cites Newman, I have to find out who Newman cites. Now, thanks to you, I have Hougan. Cheers, Michael

Here is the letter that is missing from this post... James W. McCord, Jr. 7 Winder Court Rockville , Maryland 20850 TO: JUDGE SIRICA March 19, 1973 Certain questions have been posed to me from your honor through the probation officer, dealing with details of the case, motivations, intent and mitigating circumstances. In endeavoring to respond to these questions, I am whipsawed in a variety of legalities. First, I may be called before a Senate Committee investigating this matter. Secondly, I may be involved in a civil suit, and thirdly there may be a new trial at some future date. Fourthly, the probation officer may be called before the Senate Committee to present testimony regarding what may otherwise be a privileged communication between defendant and Judge, as I understand it; if I answered certain questions to the probation officer, it is possible such answers could become a matter of record in the Senate and there-fore available for use in the other proceedings just described. My answers would, it would seem to me, to violate my fifth amendment rights, and possibly my 6th amendment right to counsel and possibly other rights. On the other hand, to fail to answer your questions may appear to be non-cooperation, and I can therefore expect a much more severe sentence. There are further considerations which are not to be lightly taken. Several members of my family have expressed fear for my life if I disclose knowledge of the facts in this matter, either publicly or to any government representative. Whereas I do not share their concerns to the same degree, nevertheless, I do believe that retaliatory measures will be taken against me, my family, and my friends should I disclose such facts. Such retaliation could destroy careers, income, and reputations of persons who are innocent of any guilt whatever. Be that as it may, in the interests of justice, and in the interests of restoring faith in the criminal justice system, which faith has been severely damaged in this case, I will state the following to you at this time which I hope may be of help to you in meting out justice in this case: There was political pressure applied to the defendants to plead guilty and remain silent. Perjury occurred during the trial in matters highly material to the very structure, orientation, and impact of the government’s case, and to the motivation and intent of the defendants. Others involved in the Watergate operation were not identified during the trial, when they could have been by those testifying. The Watergate operation was not a CIA operation. The Cubans may have been misled by others into believing that it was a CIA operation. I know for a fact that it was not. Some statements were unfortunately made by a witness which left the Court with the impression that he was stating untruths, or withholding facts of his knowledge, when in fact only honest errors of memory were involved. My motivations were different than those of the others involved, but were not limited to, or simply those offered in my defense during the trial. This is no fault of my attorneys, but of the circumstances under which we had to prepare my defense. Following sentence, I would appreciate the opportunity to talk with you privately in chambers. Since I cannot feel confident in talking with an FBI agent, in testifying before a Grand Jury whose U.S. Attorneys work for the Department of Justice, or in talking with other government representatives, such a discussion with you would be of assistance to me. I have not discussed the above with my attorneys as a matter of protection for them. I give this statement freely and voluntarily, fully realizing that I may be prosecuted for giving a false statement to a Judicial Official, if the statements herein are knowingly untrue. The statements are true and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief. [signed] James W. McCord, Jr.

Maybe James or another admin can tell us if this is helpful, and if so, how helpful. When using this start page .... http://www.educationforum.co.uk/forum.html .... Which Andy Walker created and brought to the attention of forum members on this thread.... http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/5150-new-start-page/ I see an advertising banner at the top. Sometimes it advertises local businesses. Perhaps: 1. Users could use this to enter the forum. (Would it generate revenue?) 2. Things could be set-up so that all outside traffic gets directed to that page. From there they could click a link that would direct them to the page to which they were originally navigating. It would essentially be an advertising portal, which already exists. You might as well use it, right? Just out of curiosity, and I understand that it is none of my business, Do you see any revenue from that page? Cheers, Michael

I re-read your post, Joe. I see what you said about the theme. It's not about Jeeps, it's about scary stories. I just happened to have pulled those stories from a Jeep Forum. I would be glad to post your story Joe, but the thread is for everyone. If I keep posting, other memebers would be less likely to post their stories.

That's quite a salad you have made there, Paul. It's a shame, however, that you are such a picky-eater.

I am thinking that after the 22nd, November, such a report could no longer be considered "routine".

Thanks for sharing. A spy and an agency, spying on Americans and on Congress.