W. Niederhut

Forum newsflash... Jim Hougan just published this article at Who What Why... Watergate’s Known Unknowns - WhoWhatWhy

When James Risen speaks, people should listen. In the Shadow of Jan. 6 Hearings, Right-Wing Militancy Is on the Rise (theintercept.com)

Ben, If you're truly concerned about liberty, you need to start paying attention to the real news about right wing Trumplican fascists in the U.S., and their war against liberal democracy. Have you watched the Congressional J6 hearings yet, or are you still spending all of your time in the MAGA-verse, listening to Glenn Greenwald and Tucker Carlson? 🤥 NEW POLL: Whopping 59% of Fox News Viewers Believe Trump ‘Behaved Appropriately’ on January 6th www.mediaite.com/news/new-poll-whopping-59-of-fox-news-viewers-believe-trump-behaved-appropriately-on-jan-6/

Bingo. Especially toxic lies-- e.g., falsehoods that foment violence against the citizenry, and/or against our democracy. We are witnessing a crisis in our democracy, not unlike what happened to the Weimar Republic during the rise of militant fascism and the toxic propaganda of Goebbels and the Austrian corporal. Someone needs to explain this to Ben and the right wing libertarians. At what point does unrestricted freedom of speech, (and unrestricted freedom to purchase guns!) undermine our essential human rights in a liberal democracy-- like the right to have our votes counted and to go to schools, stores, movie theaters, etc., without being shot?

Since this is a conspiracy theory forum, I'll 'fess up. I have long believed that Steph Curry is a cyborg sent from the future to end the Lakers' dynasty... 🤥

But did you watch the Colorado Avalanche beat Tampa Bay in Game One of the Stanley Cup Finals on Wednesday night? I was a Celtics fan when I lived in Boston during the Larry Bird years, but I haven't followed the NBA much in recent years. I remember watching an NBA Championship game years ago between the Celtics (Bird, McHale, Parrish, et.al.) and the "show time" L.A. Lakers in a bar in Venice Beach. I was the only Celtics fan in the bar, and everyone turned and glared at me when I accidentally cheered for the Celts. (I subsequently kept very quiet.) As for the Warriors, I'm a big fan of Steve Kerr. Great player, coach, and human being!

So, did you watch the historic Congressional hearings on YouTube? You need to finally learn the facts about the Trump/Eastman plot to overturn the 2020 election, and the seditious conspiracy, (involving the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers) to invade the Capitol on January 6th. Today, we learned more of the shocking details about the Trump/Eastman pressure campaign (including bona fide homicide risks) against Mike Pence, and Mike Pence's harrowing 4 1/2 hours in hiding under the Capitol after refusing to get into the Secret Service limo. It's truly historic, unprecedented stuff.

It wasn't a non sequitur, Ben. It was a direct response to your latest "news" update from the MAGA-verse. Meanwhile, have you watched any of the historic Congressional hearings during the past week?

What are you smoking lately, Ben? Thai stick? You need to watch the January 6th Congressional hearings and get back in touch with reality. In the real news today, we have retired Federal judge Luttig condemning Trump's seditious conspiracy, Ginni Thomas frantically trying to overturn a U.S. election, and Rep. Loudermilk (R-Georgia) leading pre-January 6th recon tours of the Capitol. Talk about your Deep State "patriot purge!" 🤥 It's, obviously, Biden's fault...

Indeed he was. Barr shut down, redacted, and lied about Mueller's Russiagate investigation for Trump. But even Barr balked at helping Trump overturn the 2020 election. Trump, then, sought someone as AG who would cooperate with his coup plot. Some of that evidence was presented in Thursday's Congressional hearing. If I can give you a little general, intellectual advice, you need to learn how to formulate theories based on the actual facts, rather than beginning with theories and ignoring or trying to adapt the facts to fit your theories. It's a pattern with you-- a cognitive style, if you will.

Yes and no. It depends on whether the "bad apple" is an essential premise of an explanatory theory. It is much easier to debunk a theory based on empirical evidence than to definitively prove one-- something that requires confirmation by all of the known evidence. From the philosophy of science, we know that a single false, essential premise/fact effectively invalidates a theory. This is, certainly, true in the case of the Warren Commission's Lone Assassin-in-the-TSBD theory. That theory is effectively debunked by a wide array of scientific facts-- e.g., ballistic, acoustic, and video evidence. But, on the flip side, what comprehensive, alternative theory of JFK's assassination by Oliver Stone, DiEugenio, et.al., has been debunked? None.

Chris Miller at the Pentagon is a good example of a flying monkey appointed by Trump (to replace Mark Esper) after Trump lost the election. And, although Miller has been evasive on the subject, it looks like he played a role in blocking the deployment of the National Guard to defend the Capitol on January 6th. Trump also tried to appoint a flying monkey as Attorney General (to replace Barr) who would cooperate with his plan to overturn the election. Also, his flying monkeys at the FBI (Wray) and DHS (Wolf) may have helped suppress intelligence about the impending attack on the Capitol. Historical facts for Chris B. to contemplate.

Chris, There's a lot of nonsense in your post here. Briefly... 1) Touchy? Study the teachings of your English sage, Samuel Johnson. There's nothing inappropriate about having strong feelings about things that matter-- like the fate of liberal democracy vs. fascist authoritarianism. 2) The answer to your question was implicit in my (above) response. To wit, if Trump had succeeded in remaining in the White House after January 6th, he would have continued to control the Pentagon, CIA, NSA, and FBI. Perhaps you aren't aware that he had appointed his sycophantic flying monkeys to run all of those institutions, with the partial exception of the CIA (after Pompeo left the CIA to become Secretary of State.) 3) You and Ben continue to overgeneralize about the nature of censorship and disinformation in the higher quality M$M organizations in the U.S. It isn't all-or-nothing. For example, in the case of the Washington Post, their primary censorship and suppression/distortion of news has to do with CIA and military black ops. Trump's coup attempt was not a Deep State black op. It was run by Trump and his Willard Hotel goon squad-- Giuliani, Powell, Eastman, Bannon, Flynn, Meadows, et.al.

Incredibly, Ben is still parroting Donald Trump's debunked propaganda memes about the "Russia hoax." Ben, Have you still not figured out that Russiagate was not a hoax? Geez... Talk about a guy who continues to drink the kool aid... 🤥 As for Brian Sicknick, rather than re-writing my rebuttal of your repeated claims about Sicknick's death-- which I posted for you on April 27, 2021 -- I'm cutting-and-pasting it below. * I've been board certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology for decades, and I never bought the claims about his death being unrelated to his assault and exposure to toxic chemicals on January 6th. Among other issues, we were never informed about toxicology screens to clarify whether Sicknick was poisoned on 1/6 by chemicals that could have caused a fatal arrhythmia or hypertensive crisis. Sicknick's police colleague (Edwards) who testified in the Thursday Congressional hearing-- which you didn't bother to watch-- reported that Sicknick was sprayed by the Capitol attackers with a chemical that wasn't like pepper spray or mace, (i.e., didn't cause facial flushing) which caused him to collapse and turn deathly pale. What was it? What was its elimination half-life? What toxicology screening was done at autopsy? * W. Niederhut Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) Benjamin, I remain skeptical about the conclusions of the medical examiner in the Brian Sicknick case, as I mentioned the last time you raised this subject. What is the probability that a young man of Sicknick's age would suddenly die of unrelated "natural" causes shortly after being assaulted by a violent mob? Brainstem strokes are very rare in men of Sicknick's age, in the absence of unusual risk factors like extreme hypertension and/or stimulant intoxication. It also seems odd, IMO, that the medical examiner waited 100 days to release his unusual conclusion that Sicknick's death was unrelated to his assault and likely exposure to toxic chemicals on January 6th. Finally, if there was a Deep State conspiracy to make Sicknick a martyr, why was the medical examiner's report published in the mainstream media at all?

"The hardcore lot?" As opposed to what--the clueless, false-equivalence Trumplican ostriches who are still in denial about Trump's historic, unprecedented crimes against the United States? Newsflash... 1) Trump conspired to remain in office as POTUS by obstructing the January 6th Congressional certification of Biden's election, despite knowing full well that his Big Lie about alleged election fraudulence was a lie. (Did you listen to Bill Barr's testimony during last night's hearing?) 2) As part of that coordinated effort, he invited and incited an angry mob to invade the U.S. Capitol on January 6th, violently attacking and injuring the police, and he even supported calls to lynch the U.S. Vice President. Some of Trump's January 6th Proud Boys and Oath Keepers have already pled guilty to seditious conspiracy. 3) Trump watched the violent attack on television for three hours, and did nothing to intervene-- despite multiple requests from concerned staffers, family members, and members of Congress. If you really believe that Trump's concerted efforts to overturn the 2020 U.S. election are "just the media whipping up a storm," you need to find some reality-based news sources. You should also study some basic American history, to understand Trump's unprecedented crimes in historical context. As Presidential historian Michael Beschloss put it last year, "Trump did one of the worst things a President could do." BTW, where are you getting your "news" and opinions about January 6th? I'm curious about such disinformation sources.

One of the many damning segments in the Congressional hearing last night, IMO, was the testimony by Bill Barr and other Trump associates establishing that Trump always knew that his Big Lie was a lie. It's a shame that the Trumplicans didn't watch these historic hearings. They need to be de-programmed by the facts. It's also a shame that some people mistakenly believe that there is some sort of equivalence between the historic, unprecedented crimes of Donald Trump (and key Republican associates) and "liberals." Only a person who flunked American History 101 could believe something that ridiculous. What this kind of confused thinking illustrates, among other problems, is the corrosive effect of incessant right wing disinformation on a sub-population of American citizens.

No. It should happen post-judicially, on gallows erected on the steps of the Capitol. What Trump did was an abomination. And he was in a position of public trust and great authority, making his crimes all the more egregious. Not sure what it will take to de-program the Trump cult, though, especially when they wall themselves off from reality.

Impressive opening statements by both Thompson and Cheney, IMO. They certainly laid out the case for Trump's historic, unprecedented crimes against the United States. The testimony of Bill Barr and other Trump staffers about the absence of any evidence that the election was stolen, and Trump's persistence in lying about that fact and actively seeking to overturn the election, was compelling. The footage of the attack on the Capitol was chilling, as was Edwards' testimony. Trump should be hanged on the steps of the Capitol, along with his co-conspirators, including Eastman, Giuliani, Flynn, Meadows, et.al. What a bunch of scoundrels. It won't happen, but it should.

My hunch is that Krulak knew enough about CIA assassination ops to fear getting whacked. He didn't want to publicize his positive identification of Ed Lansdale in Dealey Plaza.

Nearly 1,100 Segments on Benghazi, But 'Of Course' Fox News Won't Air January 6th Hearings https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/08/nearly-1100-segments-benghazi-course-fox-news-wont-air-jan-6-hearing June 8, 2022

Rob, I'm re-posting some of your debunked claims about Prouty from a 2020 forum thread. Enjoy. 🤥

Here's the forum thread from 2020 where Rob Clark and another forum member posted a lot of defamatory claims about Col. L. Fletcher Prouty, paralleling false commentaries about Prouty by Ed Lansdale and Warren Commission propagandist John McAdams. It's interesting to review this 2020 discussion in light of James DiEugenio's recent article about Prouty at Kennedys and King.

Mark, My question today about preferred crow entrees for Mr. Clark needs to be interpreted in the context of an older thread on this forum in which Mr. Clark posted some derisive, defamatory claims about the late Col. L. Fletcher Prouty-- quite similar to those published in the past by the late John McAdams. Mr. DiEugenio's recent essay at Kennedys and King debunked some of the McAdams/Clark defamatory claims about Mr. Prouty. Hence, my question for Mr. Clark about his preferred crow recipes. Naturally, I regret any injury, real or imagined, that I may have inflicted upon Mr. Clark's tender feelings.

Ben, David Ray Griffin's books and essays about 9/11 are excellent-- essential reading on the subject, IMO. So are the scientific research articles at websites like the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and 911 Research. https://www.ae911truth.org/ https://911research.wtc7.net/ Be advised that there is an vast array of government-funded disinformation about 9/11 on the internet, and those are the reasonable-sounding sites that surface prominently on Google searches-- e.g., Rational Wiki, Metabunk, 9/11 Myths Debunked, etc. (It's similar to what I noticed when I first began to study the JFK assassination research several years ago, only worse.) As with the JFK assassination, it takes time and effort to learn to differentiate the true scientific and historical facts about 9/11 from the ubiquitous, government/M$M bunk.