Keyvan Shahrdar

In the aftermath of the arrest of three vagrants, there are intriguing details emerging from a report of an FBI interview with the police officers involved. Firstly, a witness named Lee Bowers saw the three individuals, referred to as the 'tramps', rushing towards a train. Bowers then informed the police about their presence, specifying the exact train car they had entered. Bowers was working as a railroad switchman in a two-story tower building in the vicinity of Dealey Plaza, which offered him a clear view of the area. Police subsequently apprehended these three individuals, under the direction of Officer Marvin Wise. Notably, Officer Wise had cotton stuffed in his ears at the time, explaining that it was due to an ear infection. He was also wearing shoes that didn't conform to standard police-issue footwear. These unusual details sparked curiosity, leading the FBI to question him about his choice of footwear and the cotton in his ears. Officer Wise's uniform was also found to be soiled with what appeared to be roof sand. This discovery, coupled with the aforementioned peculiarities, has sparked some interesting theories. The one that I find particularly plausible is that Officer Wise could have been a sniper perched on the rooftop of the records building. The cotton in his ears could be to protect from the loud noise produced by a rifle's discharge. You can review the FBI interview note with Officer Wise here -> https://web.archive.org/web/20190909155847/http://jfkassassinationfiles.com/hsca_180-10112-10156

It appears you're interested in a complex period of post-World War II history involving a range of figures and events. Ludwig Erhard indeed succeeded Konrad Adenauer as the Chancellor of West Germany in 1963. Erhard was known for his role in the economic recovery of West Germany following the war, a period often referred to as the "economic miracle" or "Wirtschaftswunder." As for Werner von Braun, he was a German and later American aerospace engineer and space architect. He was one of the leading figures in the development of rocket technology in National Socialist Germany and later in the United States. He, along with several other German scientists, were brought to the U.S. as part of Operation Paperclip, a secret program of the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency largely carried out by the Special Agents of Army CIC. The information about the scheduled meeting between President Kennedy and the von Brauns on November 25, 1963, as well as the potential presence of von Braun's former National Socialist colleagues, is not commonly known. It would be interesting to verify this from reliable sources. Please note that the context and the intentions of such meetings would have been subject to the political and diplomatic circumstances of that time.

Konrad Adenauer was the first Chancellor of West Germany from 1949 to 1963. During his tenure, he was a key figure in the establishment of the Bundeswehr, the German armed forces, in 1955. However, he wouldn't have been in office on November 22, 1963, as he had already resigned on October 16, 1963. Why would he have a meeting with the US Joint Chiefs in the Gold Room if he was not in power?

I'll provide you with a probable insight into the non-censored documents. They may contain subtle hints suggesting Russia's involvement in JFK's assassination. This, however, could be entirely false, serving as a pretext to maintain secrecy and prevent us from understanding what truly transpired.

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In June of 1963, Lucien Conein requests another assignment from Saigon, Vietnam. Is gets approved on September 11, 1963. His salary also accelerates from around $11,000 to $15,000 from 1961 to 1964. We was earning in todays dollars about $120,000 in 61 and 150,000 in 64. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2023/104-10222-10041.pdf His reason: "Would prefer to have an operational assignment"

When it comes to understanding the forensic significance of a grayish coloration in the skull associated with a gunshot wound, it's important to draw from established forensic pathology principles. The grayish color around a gunshot wound often refers to what's known as an abrasion collar or abrasion ring. The abrasion collar is typically found surrounding an entrance wound and is formed as the bullet scrapes the surrounding skin or bone as it penetrates, carrying with it residues such as gunpowder and dirt. This process can discolor the immediate margins of the wound, often resulting in a grayish hue. The presence of an abrasion collar is one of the primary indicators that forensic pathologists use to distinguish between entrance and exit wounds. Exit wounds, on the other hand, are typically more irregular in shape, and don't have the characteristic abrasion collar. They often lack this grayish discoloration unless the bullet has interacted with an intermediate object that could leave residue.

First, several doctors at Parkland Hospital in Dallas, including Dr. Robert McClelland, reported seeing a sizable wound in the back of President Kennedy's head shortly after the shooting. They were among the first to examine Kennedy post-assassination, and their observations have fueled discussions about the possible trajectories of the fatal shot. This large defect in the posterior skull was interpreted by some as an exit wound, suggesting the shot may have come from the front. Then, there's Dr. A.B. Cairns, a forensic pathologist at the Southwestern Institute of Forensic Sciences in Dallas, who examined the Harper Fragment, a piece of skull found at the assassination site. Dr. Cairns identified it as part of the occipital bone from the right side of the skull. This finding has been used to support theories of a gunshot originating from the front of Kennedy, given the location of the occipital bone at the back of the head. Now, juxtaposing these accounts with James Jenkins' observation adds another layer of complexity. Jenkins, who assisted with the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital, reported seeing a small, grayish hole in the right temporal region of JFK's skull. The grayish coloration in this context is often associated with an abrasion collar or ring. This rim of abraded or scraped bone is usually seen around bullet entrance wounds. It's caused by the bullet carrying with it residues from its discharge, which discolor the margins of the wound. This could indicate that the bullet entered from the right side. These diverse observations highlight the multifaceted nature of the evidence concerning JFK's assassination. They reflect different moments in the timeline of events, various professional perspectives, and the complexity of interpreting gunshot wounds. The grayish hole observed by Jenkins in the right temporal bone suggests an entry point from the right, adding further dimensions to this long-debated event. Many physicians, including Dr. Robert McClelland and Dr. A.B. Cairns among others, have put considerable emphasis on the hypothesis that the fatal bullet entered JFK's head from the front and exited through the back. This theory is largely predicated on their belief that they observed a substantial wound in the back of JFK's head. Nevertheless, the possibility that the lethal shot was fired from the right side, resulting in an exit wound at the top of the skull, may not have received the attention it merits. However, the question remains: Did these doctors truly witness a gaping hole at the back of the head, or could there have been some misunderstanding or misinterpretation?

First, several doctors at Parkland Hospital in Dallas, including Dr. Robert McClelland, reported seeing a sizable wound in the back of President Kennedy's head shortly after the shooting. They were among the first to examine Kennedy post-assassination, and their observations have fueled discussions about the possible trajectories of the fatal shot. This large defect in the posterior skull was interpreted by some as an exit wound, suggesting the shot may have come from the front. Then, there's Dr. A.B. Cairns, a forensic pathologist at the Southwestern Institute of Forensic Sciences in Dallas, who examined the Harper Fragment, a piece of skull found at the assassination site. Dr. Cairns identified it as part of the occipital bone from the right side of the skull. This finding has been used to support theories of a gunshot originating from the front of Kennedy, given the location of the occipital bone at the back of the head. Now, juxtaposing these accounts with James Jenkins' observation adds another layer of complexity. Jenkins, who assisted with the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital, reported seeing a small, grayish hole in the right temporal region of JFK's skull. The grayish coloration in this context is often associated with an abrasion collar or ring. This rim of abraded or scraped bone is usually seen around bullet entrance wounds. It's caused by the bullet carrying with it residues from its discharge, which discolor the margins of the wound. This could indicate that the bullet entered from the right side. These diverse observations highlight the multifaceted nature of the evidence concerning JFK's assassination. They reflect different moments in the timeline of events, various professional perspectives, and the complexity of interpreting gunshot wounds. The grayish hole observed by Jenkins in the right temporal bone suggests an entry point from the right, adding further dimensions to this long-debated event. Many physicians, including Dr. Robert McClelland and Dr. A.B. Cairns among others, have put considerable emphasis on the hypothesis that the fatal bullet entered JFK's head from the front and exited through the back. This theory is largely predicated on their belief that they observed a substantial wound in the back of JFK's head. Nevertheless, the possibility that the lethal shot was fired from the right side, resulting in an exit wound at the top of the skull, may not have received the attention it merits. However, the question remains: Did these doctors truly witness a gaping hole at the back of the head, or could there have been some misunderstanding or misinterpretation?

Wow, you've really dug into the depths of the forensic evidence surrounding JFK's assassination. Your insights into the apparent discrepancy between the proposed entry site of the bullet and the lack of observable cerebellum damage in autopsy photos is compelling. This conundrum has certainly been a catalyst for many alternative theories, including the suggestion that there's been a cover-up or foul play during JFK's medical examination. About the notion of a bullet entering at a sharp downward trajectory and severing the brain stem without causing a discernible bullet track in the brain — it's a thought-provoking idea. But based on our current understanding of the physics of gunshot wounds, it seems rather unlikely. Here's why: when a bullet enters the body, it usually leaves a path of damage or a 'track.' This occurs as the bullet's kinetic energy is transferred to the tissues it comes into contact with. Especially when we're talking about something as delicate as brain tissue, this effect should be pretty evident. So, if we're picturing a scenario where a bullet enters the skull at the EOP, takes an unusual course to sever the brain stem without passing through the cerebellum, it would likely require an exceptionally precise and unlikely trajectory. Plus, we would still expect some kind of observable damage or bleeding at the point of entry, even if the bullet didn't leave a distinct track through the brain. In conclusion, forensic investigations are a bit like piecing together a jigsaw puzzle, often involving the interpretation of complex and sometimes contradictory evidence. Your questions underline the ongoing debates and inquiries surrounding the forensic evidence of JFK's assassination. It just goes to show how many fascinating (and unresolved) angles there are to this historical event. Thanks for sharing your analysis—it's a really intriguing addition to the conversation.

Finally, the mainstream media has started paying attention to the significant Nix film, which captures JFK's assassination on November 23, 1963, from a unique vantage point at the pergola. The footage unmistakably shows the presence of gunmen. After the shots are fired, the film records noticeable movement as individuals hastily exit the pergola. The Sixth Floor Museum reportedly houses a copy of this film. It's a compelling piece that warrants further investigation. Interestingly, they've shared sections of the Nix film on Facebook that are strikingly different from the versions made available to researchers. The suppression of the Nix film is of great concern, as it provides a detailed account of what transpired that day.

Well, the truth will always shine through. If these papers are real, Mrs Payne needs to answer some questions, but she won’t. She will take them to the grave.

Hey James, It seems my secret is out - when I'm not waist-deep in archives and dissecting the minutiae of the JFK assassination, I'm indeed honing my wordsmith skills in a hot game of solo Scrabble. But doesn't everyone enjoy a good 'quixotic' or 'zymurgy' play now and then? Onto more serious matters. I appreciate your thoughts on L. Fletcher Prouty, but there's an aspect here that I find too tantalizing to overlook. It's undeniable that Prouty was well entrenched within the military apparatus as a U.S. Air Force Colonel and Chief of Special Operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff under JFK. His professional proximity to General Edward Lansdale is also beyond dispute. Yet, during a period of escalating global tension with events like the growing conflict in Vietnam and mounting pressure with the USSR, Prouty was given an odd assignment. He was sent to the South Pole as a military escort officer from November 10th to 23rd, 1963. It seems rather strange that a man of his rank and specific expertise would be dispatched to such a remote location while major international issues were unfolding. Was it a mere coincidence that Lansdale, who had the authority to assign Prouty, sent him to the South Pole at that particular time? Prouty’s knowledge extended to his recognition of Lansdale in the photograph with the tramps, suggesting the presence of a potential hit team. Furthermore, he was able to identify Conein in another photograph from Dealey Plaza. Are we, as discerning individuals, supposed to believe that Prouty, with his deep-rooted connections and extensive knowledge, was oblivious about the impending assassination? Is it not a tad too convenient to swallow the narrative that he was handily "out of the loop"? James, I wonder what Oliver Stone’s take on this would be. Does he suspect that Prouty could have had a role in the assassination, possibly providing Lansdale with crucial intel on the hitmen, Oswald, or any other facet of the operation? It would be enlightening to learn your thoughts, and even more so, Oliver's insights on this matter. Anticipating your response, Keyvan

Acclaimed filmmaker Oliver Stone is no stranger to controversy, particularly when it comes to his 1991 film "JFK," which delves into the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. The film takes a critical look at the official narrative of the Warren Commission and instead posits a complex conspiracy involving several elements of the U.S. government. Key to Stone's interpretation is the character "Mr. X," portrayed by Donald Sutherland. This character is largely based on L. Fletcher Prouty, a former U.S. Air Force Colonel and Chief of Special Operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff under JFK. Prouty was a well-known critic of the Warren Commission's conclusions and had intimate knowledge of U.S. covert operations during the time of JFK's presidency. Given his direct involvement in U.S. Special Operations and his outspoken criticism of the official explanation, it's reasonable to ask: Did Prouty share more with Stone about the JFK assassination than is commonly known? Oliver Stone's portrayal of the "Mr. X" character and the information conveyed in their pivotal conversation is intriguing and incendiary. It feeds directly into the film's conspiracy narrative, with "Mr. X" effectively serving as the mouthpiece for the plot. The character asserts that JFK's assassination was a coup d'etat carried out by the military-industrial complex, a notion that Prouty himself suggested in his writings and interviews. So, did Fletcher Prouty reveal more to Oliver Stone? Did he admit to having a direct involvement in the JFK assassination that has not yet been disclosed to the general public? While there's no concrete evidence to suggest such a revelation, the very nature of covert operations and intelligence work leaves room for speculation. Given the deeply held secrets, the opaque nature of intelligence work, and the high stakes surrounding JFK's assassination, it's entirely possible that there is more to Prouty's story than meets the eye. Stone, who spent extensive time with Prouty while preparing for "JFK," may well hold knowledge that he has not publicly shared. Whether such information will ever come to light, however, remains to be seen. Until then, the speculation will continue, adding yet another layer of intrigue to the enduring mystery of JFK's untimely death.

I appreciate your perspective on Prouty's involvement, or lack thereof, in the conspiracy surrounding JFK's assassination. It's important to consider multiple viewpoints and possibilities when discussing such complex historical events. You're right that Prouty expressed his concerns about JFK's murder from the beginning and that he might not have had any direct involvement in the assassination plot. It's possible that his actions, such as outing Lansdale and exposing the problematic operations of Allen Dulles's "secret team," were motivated by genuine concern for the lack of oversight in CIA black ops. In this light, Prouty may be viewed as a conscientious Deep State whistleblower, as you mentioned. However, without concrete evidence, it's important to remember that we can only speculate on the true motives and actions of individuals involved in the complex web of events surrounding JFK's assassination.

While it is true that many people were mistakenly arrested and later cleared in the aftermath of JFK's assassination, it's important to consider the specific circumstances surrounding the Three Tramps. Their presence near the Grassy Knoll, combined with the fact that they were seen running away shortly after the assassination, raises suspicion. Furthermore, their military backgrounds could have potentially made them persons of interest in the investigation. While they may have ultimately been cleared of any direct involvement in the assassination, it's not unreasonable to assume that their actions and backgrounds warranted a closer look by investigators. In the chaotic aftermath of such a tragic event, law enforcement had to consider all potential leads and suspects to ensure a thorough investigation. The Three Tramps, given their suspicious behavior, were no exception.

I understand your point about Prouty's history and his potential involvement in the assassination plot. It is indeed puzzling why he would expose Lansdale in the Dealey Plaza photos if he was part of the same plot. One possible explanation, as you mentioned, could be financial gain from the release of his book, 'The CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy.' As for why Prouty consulted with Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone about his suspicions regarding JFK's assassination by Deep State actors opposing his Vietnam and Cuba policies, it's possible that Prouty had a change of heart or a falling out with the conspirators, leading him to share his insider knowledge. Alternatively, it could be an attempt to further promote his book and theories by aligning himself with prominent figures investigating the JFK assassination. In any case, it's important to keep an open mind and consider multiple perspectives and possibilities when examining complex historical events like the JFK assassination. Without concrete evidence, we can only speculate on the motives behind certain actions.

In response to your question, while it is true that millions of people served in the military during that time period, the fact that Gus W. Abrams, Harold Doyle, and John F. Gedney had military backgrounds could potentially make them persons of interest in the investigation. More significantly, their presence in the vicinity of the assassination and the fact that they were observed fleeing the Grassy Knoll by Lee Bowers, who was stationed in the control tower of the rail yard and subsequently reported this to the police, adds to the possibility of them being considered suspects. Their actions were suspicious enough to warrant an FBI report, as mentioned in the provided link: https://web.archive.org/web/20190923223857/http://jfkassassinationfiles.com/fbi_124-10179-10310

Three vagrants were observed fleeing the Grassy Knoll by Lee Bowers, who was stationed in the control tower of the rail yard. Bowers contacted the police to inform them about the individuals. This information was documented in an FBI report, which can be found at the following link: https://web.archive.org/web/20190923223857/http://jfkassassinationfiles.com/fbi_124-10179-10310 Furthermore, Gus W. Abrams, Harold Doyle, and John F. Gedney all have military backgrounds, having served as veterans.

In the early 1960s, L. Fletcher Prouty was assigned to the Office of the Secretary of Defense to work on military support for the clandestine operations of the CIA. He was later promoted to Colonel and continued his work in the Office of Special Operations. When the Defense Intelligence Agency was created by Secretary McNamara and the Office of Special Operations was abolished, Prouty was transferred to the Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. There, he established a similar worldwide office and served as the Chief of Special Operations with the Joint Staff during 1962-1963. In 1963, Prouty was ordered to travel as the Military Escort officer for a group of VIPs to the South Pole, where he was during the JFK assassination. In an interview, Fletcher Prouty did indeed claim that Ed Lansdale told him to go to the South Pole during the time of the JFK assassination. "In an chance encounter with Edward Lansdale in the hallways of the Pentagon, a "month or two before" the assassination (as Prouty tells it), Lansdale informed Prouty he had arranged for him [Prouty] to accompany a group of VIPs to the South Pole from November 10 to 23, in the capacity of Military Escort officer." IMO - Fletcher is trying to rewrite his own history. He had the access to classified information and he knew the suspected people. When I read from his own admission that Lansdale arranged for him to go to the South Pole my understanding is: Lansdale , I want to be as far away as possible when JFK is killed. I gave you the information you needed, I am out.

Introduction: The assassination of President John F. Kennedy has been shrouded in mystery and conspiracy theories for decades. Among the numerous individuals whose actions and motives have been scrutinized is Fletcher Prouty, who held a high-ranking position under the Secretary of Defense during JFK's administration. In this article, we will explore the possibility that Prouty may have played a role in the assassination plot by providing information to CIA operative Edward Lansdale. Section 1: Prouty's Access to Classified Information As a key figure in the Defense Department, Fletcher Prouty had access to highly sensitive military information. The type of information he had access to could have been useful for orchestrating an assassination plot. His privileged position raises questions about the extent of his involvement in the events surrounding JFK's death. Section 2: The South Pole Assignment During the time of JFK's assassination, Prouty was mysteriously assigned to the South Pole. This assignment has led some to speculate that it was a calculated move to distance himself from the event. In this section, we will delve into the potential reasons behind his absence from Washington, D.C. Section 3: The Oswald Connection and Cover Story In exploring the possibility that Prouty may have assisted Lansdale in identifying Lee Harvey Oswald as the perfect patsy for the assassination plot, we will look at Oswald's background and consider whether Prouty could have passed this information to Lansdale. In an intriguing twist, Prouty seems to express a sense of pride or accomplishment in how Oswald has become the main cover story for the assassination. We will explore this unusual perspective and consider whether it may be interpreted as an indication of Prouty's own involvement in the plot, and if so, how that might fit into the broader picture of the assassination conspiracy. Section 4: Finding Retired Military Snipers Another angle to consider is that Prouty may have helped Lansdale find retired military snipers for the assassination. If true, this would further implicate Prouty in the planning and execution of the assassination plot. Section 5: Motivations for the Assassination It is essential to consider why anyone would participate in the assassination of a president. One possible motivation is JFK's efforts to integrate schools that were previously reserved for white students. This move angered many individuals, potentially providing a motive for involvement in the assassination plot. Section 6: Lansdale's Involvement Edward Lansdale, a prominent figure in the CIA, has long been a subject of speculation in JFK assassination conspiracy theories. We will explore the connection between Lansdale and Prouty and consider how they might have collaborated in the plot. Section 7: Prouty's Revelations in His Book In his book, "JFK: The CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy," Fletcher Prouty delves into the complex web of intrigue surrounding the assassination. He makes specific mention of Col. Lou Conein and General Edward Lansdale, both of whom have been implicated in various conspiracy theories related to the assassination. Section 8: The Tramps and Dealey Plaza Prouty discusses the mysterious figures known as "the tramps," who were photographed in Dealey Plaza shortly after JFK's assassination. He goes on to identify Lansdale and Conein in photographs taken at the scene, suggesting their presence as part of the plot. We will analyze these photographic claims and consider the implications of their alleged presence in Dealey Plaza. Conclusion: The JFK assassination continues to be an enigmatic and debated event in American history, with many unanswered questions and complex conspiracy theories. While concrete proof of Fletcher Prouty's involvement in the assassination remains elusive, the circumstantial evidence and intriguing connections between him, Oswald, and other key figures like Edward Lansdale warrant further investigation. By examining these relationships and considering the motivations behind the assassination, we can attempt to gain a deeper understanding of the intricate web of events surrounding JFK's tragic death. As the search for truth continues, it is crucial to remain open to new perspectives and evidence in the ongoing quest to unveil the full story behind one of America's darkest chapters.

I must admit, I live confused!

I'm assuming you are referring to a book about the JFK assassination titled "ZR/RIFLE: The Plot to Kill Kennedy and Castro" by Robert Blakey and Richard Billings. Robert Blakey is a law professor and former Chief Counsel and Staff Director of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, while Richard Billings was a journalist and former editor of the New York Herald Tribune. Together, they co-authored this book which presents the theory that Lee Harvey Oswald was part of a conspiracy involving the CIA and anti-Castro Cuban exiles to assassinate both President John F. Kennedy and Cuban leader Fidel Castro. Penn Jones was a close friend of J. D. Tippit

Major General Philip C. Wehle was the Commanding General of the Military District of Washington at the time of President Kennedy's assassination. He was responsible for overseeing the arrangements for the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital. However, the actual autopsy was performed by Navy pathologists Commander James J. Humes, Commander J. Thornton Boswell, and Lt. Col. Pierre A. Finck (U.S. Army).

In the early 1960s, L. Fletcher Prouty was assigned to the Office of the Secretary of Defense to work on military support for the clandestine operations of the CIA. He was later promoted to Colonel and continued his work in the Office of Special Operations. Hypothetically: Did Prouty find the hitmen? Did he find find Oswald to be a good asset to be the patsy? I know you don't like my opinions, but this has to be researched if it can be? Are there any of the released records that show Prouty's actions during the time period?