Bill Brown

"For identification purposes two potential destinations required the two torn bills that were found on Oswald." There is no evidence that two torn bills were found on Oswald and it should not be stated as a fact.

More on Bayesian Statistics... http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/published/badbayesmain.pdf

Opinions don't really matter. The document does not say that the dollar bill is torn in half.

Greg, first, why do you keep saying that a palm print was lifted from the patrol car? Have you seen Barnes Exhibit A? Partial FINGER prints were lifted from the top of the passenger door frame and the passenger-side front fender above the wheel well. Fingerprints, not palm prints. Helen Markham was on the wrong side of the patrol car (and over probably 150 feet away). She saw the short conversation taking place but there's no way she could know if Tippit's killer indeed touched the patrol car or not. She was on the opposite side of the patrol car as was the killer. Markham simply assumed that the killer touched the car (a natural assumption to make). Jimmy Burt was over 300 feet away. However, Jack Tatum drove right past the patrol car as the conversation between Tippit and his killer was taking place. Tatum said Oswald was leaned over and had his hands in his jacket pockets. If you wish to talk statistics, what are the odds that nine witnesses would ALL be wrong when each positively identified Lee Oswald as the man they saw either shoot Tippit or run from the scene with a gun in his hands? Thirteen REAL witnesses saw Tippit's killer fire the shots or run from the scene holding a gun. Eyewitnesses who said the man was Lee Oswald: Helen Markham, Barbara Davis, Virginia Davis, William Scoggins, Sam Guinyard, Ted Callaway, Warren Reynolds, Pat Patterson and Harold Russell. Eyewitnesses who could not say if the man was Lee Oswald or not: Jimmy Burt, Bill Smith, Domingo Benavides & L.J. Lewis. Eyewitnesses who stated that the man they saw was in fact NOT Lee Oswald: (NONE)

"After his arrest, the police found two halves of two different dollar bills in his wallet" Nonsense. Armstrong's opinion is not a source. There is nothing to suggest that Oswald had two halves of two different dollar bills on his person when arrested. If there was evidence of such, then it would have long been put forth by now. Think.

Perhaps you need to pay better attention to what it was that I said exactly before you keep wasting my time having to correct you. I said the only evidence of a dollar bill TORN IN HALF comes from Armstrong. Apparently you're one of those who don't understand the difference between a dollar bill having a tear in it..... versus..... a half of a torn in half bill.

Except that there is nothing which makes it "likely" that the partial prints belong to the killer.

Whether you two like it or not, it's foolish to attempt to build a case that the prints must belong to the killer when it is not absolute that the prints belong to the killer.

"And 'halved' clearly doesn't mean folded in half." As I've already pointed out, there is a piece of paper found which mentions half of a dollar bill but there is nothing on that piece of paper tying it to anything assassination-related. Armstrong alone tried to tie it to the assassination but couldn't and if I recall correctly, he no longer believes it was related, i.e. he's abandoned his own cockamamie theory. Stop being condescending while at the same time not knowing what you're talking about.

CE 1149 states that Oswald had a five dollar bill and eight one dollar bills, one of which was "torn". What the list does NOT say is that Oswald had a five dollar bill, seven one dollar bills and one bill torn in half. Is this really that tough to understand?

I haven't moved any goalposts. The claim is that Oswald had HALF of a dollar bill. Please point out where any such thing is listed among the inventory of items on his person when arrested. Betcha can't.

Coincidence? Really? How about Armstrong was aware of such a strategy and then imported a dollar bill torn in half into the mix even though there is no evidence for it.

You do realize there is a difference between a dollar bill with a tear versus a dollar bill literally torn in half? The Kook claim is that Oswald had HALF of a dollar bill. There's no evidence of this.

That's the whole point... Burroughs isn't credible. Davis has Oswald sitting beside only two (himself and one other).

There is no evidence whatsoever that Oswald had a torn half of a dollar bill. This is nothing more than a factoid, foolishly invented by John Armstrong. Upon arrest, an inventory of Oswald's possessions mentions nothing about half of a dollar bill. Armstrong found a notation on a piece of paper inside the Dallas Police archives that mentioned a torn half of a dollar bill, but even this particular piece of paper has nothing on it which even hints to it being anything assassination-related.

Davis said after Oswald almost sat beside him, Oswald went up, around and then back down the other side. Nothing about popcorn in Oswald's hands, ever. Then, the lights come on (police about to enter), so Davis goes out to the lobby to find out why the lights are on. No time for Oswald to go purchase popcorn.

"That’s possible Bill. I wondered that too. But against, is he kept moving to different persons, three or four times." Jack Davis, who you agree is credible, has Oswald sitting beside (or almost sitting beside) only TWO people.

Davis seems credible? Okay. When does Davis say he saw popcorn in Oswald's hands?

Re: Jack Davis and Oswald sitting beside himself and another guy, consider the possibility that Oswald wanted to appear to be part of a small group of patrons versus a man sitting by himself. Just sayin'.

Butch Burroughs testified that he told the police inside the theater that he hadn't seen the guy. But hey, why believe what he said in 1964 over what he said to Jim Marrs and to The Men Who Killed Kennedy almost twenty-five years later?

Butch Burroughs testified that he told the police inside the theater that he hadn't seen the guy. But hey, why believe what he said in 1964 over what he said to Jim Marrs and to The Men Who Killed Kennedy twenty-five years later?

"The partial prints lifted from the patrol car REASONABLY APPEAR LIKELY..." No. This is not true at all. A possibility? Of course. Likely? Nope. There is no reason at all to claim that it is likely that the killer ever touched the patrol car, much less the front hood/fender/quarter panel.

@Greg Doudna Finish this sentence please: The partial prints lifted from the patrol car MUST be the killer's prints and no other person's prints because...

Ted Callaway testified that after hearing the five gun shots, he ran out to the sidewalk on Patton. This was a little over a half block south of the shooting scene. Callaway saw a man (who he later identified as Oswald) cutting across Patton as he (Oswald) made his way south on Patton (towards Callaway's position). Callaway hollered out to the man as the man continued south on Patton past Callaway's position. Callaway testified that the man was running and holding a gun. Callaway saw the man head west on Jefferson (the same direction as the theater). According to his testimony, once the man turned west onto Jefferson, Callaway ran a "good hard run" up to the corner of Tenth and Patton. Callaway, noticing the stopped patrol car, went to the car and saw the officer (Tippit) lying dead in the street. Callaway grabbed the police car radio and reported the shooting. He said he didn't know if anyone had reported it yet, so he decided to report it himself. To recap, Callaway hears the shots. Runs to the sidewalk. Sees the gunman run south on Patton the entire block from Tenth to Jefferson. Runs the two-thirds of a block up to the shooting scene and then reports the shooting to the police dispatcher. How much time do you believe passed from the time Callaway heard the shots to the time he reported the shooting on the police radio? Let's say two minutes pass from the time Oswald shoots Tippit to the time Oswald turns the corner from Patton onto Jefferson. This is a little over one block and Oswald was running. Let's say it takes Callaway one minute when he made the "good hard run" the two-thirds of a block from his location to the patrol car. If these two time estimates are anywhere close to being correct, then Callaway is at the patrol car roughly three minutes after the shots rang out. Let's add another full minute for error. So we have Callaway at the patrol car using the police radio about four minutes after the shots rang out. Here's the thing... Callaway's report to the dispatcher while using the patrol car radio took place at 1:19/1:20.

Please finish this sentence, I'm curious: "Oswald did not kill Tippit and I know this because...."