Marjan Rynkiewicz

Re the erroneous Z313 for Hickey sitting. I have determined uzing the footfalls/footsteps (of the lady walking towards the limo) that Bronson shows Hickey seated at Z316, not Z313. I have shown (by distance moved per frame) that Bronson's frames are missing about 5 frames. And, the erroneous Z313 estimate relies on an assumed rate for Bronson. But we do not know whether Bronson was/is at 16 fps or at 12 pfs or what. Hence the erroneous Z313, which is actually Z316. Re Hickey sitting. I have shown that (a few frames before Z313) Bronson shows that Hickey briefly rises up a half head from his already high seated/standing position on the back seat. Hickey was sitting on a leather [ammo] case which is itself sitting on a larger [AR15] leather case sitting on the back seat. When sitting, Hickey's head was only one head lower than the heads of the agents standing on the running boards. So, when Hickey partly stood/rose up his head was a half head below the agents' heads. Re Hickey shooting. The AR15 had to be an inch or two above the level of the Queen Mary windshield, for a slug to pass over the windshield, yet angle down enuff to hit JFK's head (about an inch below the top of the head). When i say an inch or two i am referring to the level above Elm St, ie as if Elm St has zero grade (Elm St grade is about 3.2 deg) When partly standing Hickey would have to hold the AR15 at chest height to achieve the above inch or two. An accidental sqeez of the trigger would if on AUTO probly give a burst of at least 4 shots. I think that the 1963 AR15 fired at 400 rpm (6.7 rps). Four shots would take less than half a second. Modern AR15s can fire at 1200 rpm i think. Columbo: There are a couple of loose ends I'd like to tie up, sir. Nothing important you understand. Actually, so far, sir, we don’t have a thing. Hickey: Well, that’s heartening. Columbo: Officially, that is. Hickey: And unofficially? Columbo: Unofficially, we don’t have anything either. Hickey: So, when did you first suspect me? Columbo: As it happens, sir… the first time i read the report. Hickey: That can’t be possible. Columbo: Well sir, little things bother me. Like when i was looking for the tests done on your AR15, & the bullets. Especially your sworn witness testimony, sir. Hickey: There were no tests, & i wasn’t called as a witness. Columbo: Yes, that's what i mean sir. It's just one of those things that got in my head and kept rolling around in there like a marble Columbo: My wife was a great fan of JFK sir. Hickey: Well, tell her it was just rotten luck. Columbo: Yes sir, u were just doing your job.

Earle Brown's statement was to Mack i think. Any search will find it. Hoffman said that Queen Mary stopped below him & turned its light signals off.

Did Ellis say that the motorcade stopped briefly on the on-ramp? If yes then he is witness No4 to say so.

Wiki says that single shot slamfires are possible. Unintended slamfires are dangerous, and recoil may cause shooters to lose control of light firearms with conditions causing sequential slamfires if a normally semi-automatic firearm "goes full-auto" unexpectedly.[6] A single defective cartridge may cause a single slamfire, but a firing pin stuck in a forward position or a magazine loaded with defective ammunition may cause a round to fire every time the bolt closes until the magazine is empty. Shooters must keep the firearm pointed in a safe direction ("downrange") while closing the bolt and chambering a cartridge. If a slamfire does occur, the shooter must do his or her best to hold the firearm securely pointed in a safe direction until it ceases firing. This requires discipline, because untrained shooters may become surprised and instinctively drop the firearm as soon as it begins firing. Aside from the dangers of any accidental discharge, an out-of-battery ignition may occur if a round slamfires before it is completely secured in the chamber. The firearm may be damaged or destroyed by a breech explosion potentially injuring the shooter and bystanders.[2] Tague was injured by Hickey's first shot. jfk hit in head by last shot.

Weissman in 2019 inspected the Sixth Floor Museum's Bronson film & 2017 scan & 2019 scan, including looking at the original 8mm film frames through his own cameras/viewers. Weissman wrote a report for Bonar Menninger, he wrote that he could not say for certain that Hickey held the AR15. Weissman suggested that a new scan be made at double resolution. And that the 8mm film frames be viewed with a microscope. He wrote that his own viewing of the original film was of little use as his camera/viewer was only 20X. Weissman's report has a small pix showing only 0.64% of one 2019 Bronson frame, but that little glimpse of that small area was enuff for me to see that Hickey did indeed hold the AR15 during the shooting. There are 26 Bronson frames in the Bronson sequence around Z313, but Unger shows only 20 frames on his website. I think that today we can watch a low-res Bronson film on the Sixth Floor Museum website. The frames in this film are i think a lower res copy of the low-res 2017 scan. It would be nice if the Sixth Floor Museum showed a hi-res copy of their higher res 2019 scan. I made my own low res Bronson frames from my own screenprints of the Sixth Floor Museum film, but i mostly used the 20 better higher res Unger frames. Robin Unger's website shows 20 frames (6 frames are missing), i think that Robin Unger got these by making screenprints off the Museum's 2017 youtube of Bronson, before that youtube was deleted. I suppose that slamfires can have a number of causes. But, my limited reading tells me that all slamfires empty the magazine every time. The AR15 held say 20 bullets. In any case Hickey fired at least 4 shots.

Earle Brown said that the motorcade stopped for at least 30 sec on the on-ramp. Hoffman's account supports Brown. Plus we have other similar accounts. Plus a lot of evidence fits a stoppage.

I have no doubts that Oswald's shot-1 was at pseudo Z105 (or at least at the signals)(shot hit signal arm)(splatter hit JFK in back of head)(main slug made hole in limo floor)(CE567 CE569). Oswald's shot-2 was at Z218 (the SBT slug). Oswald did not fire his last bullet. Hickey's auto burst of at least 4 shots was at say Z300 to Z312 (wounded Tague)(made dent in chrome trim)(hit JFK in head). And there were no other shots. I don’t believe that the Z film was altered or frames removed etc. We need 2 things. (1) Someone has to view the Sixth Floor Museum 2019 copy of the Bronson film. (2) Someone has to replicate the AR15 dent in the chrome trim. (3) An exhumation & MRI of JFK's skull would be good.

Earle Brown said that the motorcade stopped on the Stemmons on-ramp for about 30 seconds. Supported by another 2 witnesses.

Yes there were a number of mentions of a flurry of shots or of shots very close together etc.

(1) Anyone can cherry pick evidence to support almost any hypothesis if there is an abundance of suitable evidence. (2) A hypothesis that cannot be supported by any available cherry picked evidence is difficult. Hickeyists find ourselves in between (1) & (2). The main problem is that jfk evidence is mostly made up of factoids. Leading to many possible false hypotheses.

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Interesting re Bonar Menninger agreeing that Bronson shows Hickey holding the AR15. His book Mortal Error i see duznt mention Bronson in its Index. And no mention in the Index for JFK The Smoking Gun by Colin McLaren. But, Donahue in Mortal Error did base his drawing (of Hickey holding the AR15 in Queen Mary & JFK in the JFKlimo) on a frame from Bronson (needs checking). I have pointed out on this forum that the Bronson frame supposedly at Z313 is actually a few frames later. So, Bronson (2017 frames) confirms that Hickey did the dirty deed. The superior 2019 frames will show it much better (someone should ask to see).

Hickey can be seen in the Bronson footage (which is very blurry), some of which is before Z313 & some after Z313. Searching Bronson today gives 840 hits on this forum. Some of these hits (the best of these hits) are my comments, which i made in the last couple of years (some of my Bronson comments are on this present thread).

I see that Z212 is our last glimpse of Hickey (ie 101 frames before Z313). Here at Z212 jfk has not yet disappeared behind the sign, & jfk has not yet been hit by Oswald shot-2.

Parkdale is a sleepy little bayside suburb of Melbourne near my (old) billiards club. Have changed to Parkland. The Parkdale main street had the first 40 kmph speed limit in that part of Melbourne (ie 25 mph)(in about 1990)(on a trial basis)(otherwise the standard urban speed limit everywhere was 60 kmph). Today most main streets in towns etc in Australia are 40 kmph, & every school frontage street is 40 kmph, & most residential streets are 50 kmph. But i dont get the Qumar ref?

Keven Keven Keven. I suggest a small experiment. Lay down on the floor, facing the ceiling. Rest your head on a say Rubicks Cube. Now, use your right hand to show me the location of the hole in jfk's skull. If u want to show me the center of the back of the head then the Rubicks Cube will be in the way of your hand. But, every one of your examples shows an idiot a doctor with hand/fingers at back of head. So, at autopsy, the head rest was covering the hole. Or, at Parkdale Parkland the hole was kissing the gurney. NOPE.

Postmortems for dummys. Autopsy 101. HEAD RESTS. 101.1 The head is supported by a small head-rest ($49.95). 101.2 The head-rest rests between the table & the back of the head (if supine). 101.3 The head rest hides a small central area at the center of the back of the head. 101.4 If the back of the head has a very large area of missing skull bone then u will need to use two head rests, one each side of the defect. 101.5 Instead of using 2 head rests, use a single super sized head rest ($99.95). 101.6 We recommend the JFK1000 ($110)(beware of cheap imitations). 101.7 WARNING -- the back of the head is not the top of the head (the top of the head is sometimes wrongly called the back of the head)(we have even seen cases where the forehead has been described as being the top of the head). 101.8 The JFK1000 has markings clearly delineating the back of the head & the top of the head & the left ear & the right ear & the direction to the anus. 101.9 If using a single small head rest then sometimes the head rest can disappear into the head & be lost if there is a large cavity in the back of the head (always double check the xrays).

Meanwhile, upstairs in the recovery wards of Parklands & Bethesda, patients are recovering from all kinds of operations & sicknesses. (Sicknesses which are largely due to a lifetime of eating & drinking factory-made-processed seed oils & starches & sugars & transfats)(ie carbohydrates & fibre)(& due to eating fruits & veggies & flours & fibre)(ie due to eating & drinking slow acting poizons). (Sicknesses such as auto-immune diseases of every kind)(obesity)(diabetes)(organ damage)(cancers)(heart problems)(etc etc). Patients at Parkland & Bethesda were/are fed all of the above krapp, & mobile patients can visit their nearest coin operated vending machine to get sugary drinks & eats. It was thus in 1963, & it is thus in 2024. Patients (& non patients) need to eat fat & protein (ie red meats)(grass fed), & fish is ok, & fowl is ok, & eggs are ok (free range), & (praps a little) dairy is ok (eg butter & cream & cheese etc). This diet is called a carnivore diet. Its best to not eat or use much virgin olive oil, but olive oil is much better than other oils (eg seed oils)(poizon). I will have to change my avatar. I no longer eat fish & chips (potato) every day. I do eat fish but not covered in batter or breadcrumbs. And i have cut back the wine.

The 6thFloorMuseum ran some tests years ago. They made a doll's house TSBD, with a clay Oswald with a clay Carcano. The clay Oswald had a gorilla head. And they made a clay SSA Hickey with a clay AR15 sitting in the back of a clay Queen Mary. The clay Hickey had a gorilla head. And they made a clay jfk & limo etc etc. And they made a clay-motion cartoon of the jfk shooting. A large bunch of extreme LNers were given one quick viewing of the cartoon. They were firstly given a list of written questions to study & look out for & to answer immediately after their viewing. Then this was repeated with a bunch of extreme CTers. Not one of the LNers or CTers noticed that the clay driver (Greer) was a clay orangutan.

There is a version (by Styles or by Adams)(via Ernest or someone) that says that that policeman (probly Foster) said to go southwest to the front (this happened i suppose near the NW corner of the TSBD)(allbeit with 2 sets of rail tracks between them & the TSBD).

We know that Oswald's first shot did not hit the overhead signals (according to the owner of the signals, Christopher, who took the signals down when they were upgraded). But, Holland deserves our thanks for (correctly) telling us that Oswald's shot hit (ricocheted offa) the signal support arm.

If Adams & Styles exited the first floor via the large overhead door (which was between the stairs & the elevators), if that door was open, then would Piper have seen Adams & Styles? NOPE.

That was a posting by Sean Murphy from Google Groups or somesuch. https://groups.google.com/g/alt.assassination.jfk/c/3Dsk9bpdySI https://groups.google.com/g/alt.assassination.jfk/c/W7McW4aaYMc/m/rmbO883N__wJ https://jfkfacts.org/one-mans-encounter-with-oswald/

Leave a comment Filed under Uncategorized April 15, 2021 · 1:48 pm Vicki Through The Years In her words, Vicki successfully “low-profiled” her past after Dallas. Her husband advised it. Close friends were kept in the dark. Still others never made a connection. At most, the name Victoria Adams was linked only to a lead singer of the Spice Girls. “I tend to be reclusive,” she once admitted. “I thought I was this private person, a roving gypsy who lit and flitted through life.” Supporting that itinerant notion were repeated job changes, six uninterrupted years drifting along the blue highways of America, and a Warren Commission that effectively dismissed her on seemingly reasonable grounds. ./The%20Girl%20on%20the%20Stairs%20_%20The%20Search%20for%20Victoria%20Adams_files/image-4.png The self-styled ‘gypsy” with her husband Skip, here enjoying New Mexico, 1993 What little that was available about her came mainly from her scanty official testimony and a cursory FBI interview stuffed deep into the 26 volumes. A few other documents popped up, but only by way of in-person searches at the National Archives. Some of the pioneers who scoured such evidence came across her comments and were drawn to three areas of interest: when she came down the stairs (“immediately”), where she felt the shots came from (“the right below rather than from the left above”), and who she saw outside (a man “very similar” in appearance to Jack Ruby). Her first open mention occurred in Mark Lane’s 1966 book, Rush to Judgment. Briefly noting her quick descent from the fourth floor of the Depository, Lane focused instead on her implication shots originated from the grassy knoll (p. 110), and her probable sighting of Ruby in a place he shouldn’t have been (pp. 262-63). She was later talked into appearing with Lane as a guest on the Mort Sahl show in Los Angeles. She discussed her whole story then, but was disappointed with the result. “They were only interested in whether or not I had seen Ruby,” Vicki said. “So I just gave up.” Sylvia Meagher, however, set her sights on the critical stairway angle. “We now revert to Victoria Adams,” she wrote in Accessories After the Fact, “bearing in mind that if her story is accurate it decisively invalidates the Warren Commission’s hypothesis about Oswald’s movements between 12: 30 and 12:33 pm” (pp. 72-74). Published in 1967, one must wonder why such recognized significance was never pursued. Harold Weisberg took a slightly different track. In 1967’s Photographic Whitewash, he used Vicki’s statement that her view of the motorcade was temporarily obstructed by an oak tree in an attempt to pinpoint the president’s position when the first shot struck him (pp. 51-52). Also that year, Josiah Thompson in Six Seconds in Dallas listed Vicki as one more who felt shots came from the knoll. To his credit he clarified that labeling by citing what she actually had said: “below & to the right” (p. 254). “And I was even in Playboy magazine,” Vicki teased one day. Indeed she was, but not how most might think. In a lengthy February 1967 Playboy interview with Mark Lane, the attorney brought up her name, telling readers that based on her testimony, she was on the stairway at the same time as Oswald. “He wasn’t there,” Lane quoted Vicki as saying. Misspelling her name, Jim Bishop in 1968 wrote this colorful and imaginative prose in The Day Kennedy Was Shot: “Not many, even in the plaza, noticed the group of girls squealing with anticipation on the fourth floor of the School Book Depository. They clasped and unclasped their hands with delight as the lead car approached. The office belonged to Vickie Adams. She had invited her friends, Sandra Styles, Elsie Dorman, and Dorothy May Garner to watch with her. The girls were thrilled because of the exceptional view, looking downward into the car, and the possibility of seeing the youthful, attractive First Lady and what she was wearing. The girls were prepared to discuss Mrs. Kennedy’s shoes, gloves, hat, coiffure, even the roses” (pp. 168-69). In 1968’s Moment of Madness: The People vs. Jack Ruby, Elmer Gertz writes: “Victoria Adams is cited by [Mark] Lane as a witness to Ruby’s presence at the scene of the assassination. Her only comment was that the man she saw looked ‘very similar’ to Ruby. Her testimony indicated that the man she saw was probably on the corner for more than fifteen minutes [his emphasis], which exceeded the maximum time that Ruby could have spent there in order to return to the [Dallas Morning News] newspaper office on time” (p. 526). Warren Commission attorney David Belin, who took Vicki’s official testimony in 1964, used the exact same arguments from back then to discredit her all over again—this time to even greater lengths—in his 1973 book, November 22: You Are the Jury (pp. 268-71). As a result of his initial questioning of Vicki, he pointed out in his book, “[Joseph] Ball and I had come to another dead end in our efforts to establish the innocence of Oswald or the existence of a co-conspirator.” Despite showing an interest in Vicki, the HSCA failed to acknowledge her in its 1979 final report. “Indeed, one witness, Victoria Adams, testified she was on the stairway at that time, and heard no one,” David Lifton correctly penned in his 1980 best seller, Best Evidence. “The Commission concluded she was wrong as to when she was coming down the stairs” (p. 351). Only snippets of her story were presented in 1989’s wide-ranging Crossfire by Jim Marrs (pp. 44, 53, and 325). But Oswald had his long-awaited day in court in Walt Brown’s 1992 The People v. Lee Harvey Oswald. In this fiction-based-on-fact courtroom drama, Appendix A reveals that Vicki was subpoenaed as a witness for the imaginary trial but, true to form, was not called to testify (p. 613). Vicki made her silver screen debut in 1992’s hit movie JFK. Oliver Stone portrayed her running down the stairs as a frenzied Lee Oswald rushes by, a taunt by the director at how it had to be if the Warren Commission’s scenario of that particular event were true. The actress who depicted Vicki was not named in the credits. ./The%20Girl%20on%20the%20Stairs%20_%20The%20Search%20for%20Victoria%20Adams_files/image-5.png The girl on the stairs, courtesy of Oliver Stone in the 1992 movie JFK The real Victoria Adams is alphabetically listed as a witness in two encyclopedic paperbacks: 1992’s The Assassination of John F. Kennedy by James Duffy and Vincent Ricci (p. 5), and 1993’s Who’s Who in the JFK Assassination by Michael Benson (also p. 5). Vicki’s “immediate” run down the stairs is elevated in 1993 to taking “at least four to five minutes after the third shot”—an opinion introduced by way of a footnote, no less—in Gerald Posner’s Case Closed (p. 264). Posner reportedly smiled and quietly walked away when shown a document by a fellow researcher that contradicted his inflated time estimate and instead corroborated her speediness. She’s noted only as a looker-on to the story of co-worker Elsie Dorman’s jumpy attempt at filming the presidential motorcade from their fourth-floor perch in Richard Trask’s 1994 Pictures of the Pain (pp. 443 and 445). Coverup, written in 1998 by Stewart Galanor, correctly cites Vicki’s testimony where she said the sound of the shots “seemed as if it came from the right below rather than from the left above” (p. 75). Yet a bit later, Galanor lists her as still another witness who felt the shots came from the knoll (p. 171). In Murder in Dealey Plaza, a collection of articles edited by James H. Fetzer and published in 2000, you’ll find Vicki’s actions between 12:30 and 12:32 described chronologically as part of “Part I: The Day JFK Was Shot” (pp. 45-46). Professor Gerald McKnight provides a general account of Vicki’s statements and actions in 2005’s Breach of Trust. But then he writes “immediately after the assassination Adams gave the same account to Dallas police detective James R. Leavelle” (pp. 113-14). Actually, Vicki gave that account to Leavelle nearly three months after the assassination. And in footnotes on page 377 (#13 and #17), McKnight says that Vicki corrected her Warren Commission testimony on February 17, 1964, a task hard to imagine since her testimony didn’t take place until April 7, 1964. The February 17 date was when she was interviewed by Leavelle. Her name takes on the more fashionable “Ms. Adams” in G. Paul Chambers 2010 book Head Shot (p. 61). And she is christened as a possible assassin, of all things, in Vincent Bugliosi’s 2007 tome, Reclaiming History. “Why not?” he asks, hopefully in jest for his sake. “Women can pull triggers too, you know” (p. 832). Once The Girl on the Stairs was commercially published in 2013, Vicki’s full narrative finally became known. Had she lived to see it happen, it’s doubtful she would have changed her style. “You know what?” she told me one day. “Here is the truth: I want nothing. I do not crave fame nor fortune. I just want to help you since it has been so terribly important to you. I just want someone to hear the truth. Should your book be published before I die, I do not want anyone to know where I am. I want no publicity. And I know on an inner level that you will respect my confidentiality.” As hoped, The Girl prompted further discussions and studies of this overlooked woman. Yet it still didn’t stop the occasional errors of fact. For instance, Jerome Corsi in his 2013 book Who Really Killed Kennedy? devotes a section to Vicki that he titles “The Girl in [sic] the Stairs.” He tells readers Vicki “produced for Ernest a 1964 letter her attorney had written to J. Lee Rankin…complaining that someone had made changes in her deposition, altering her meaning” (pp. 94-95). Vicki didn’t produce the letter; it was discovered in the National Archives. The letter was written to Rankin by Asst. U.S. Attorney Martha Joe Stroud, who certainly was not counsel to Vicki. And the letter merely listed a few grammatical corrections Vicki had noted after reviewing a transcript of her deposition. It contained no complaints about changes that altered her meaning. That would surface later. Also in 2013, Flip de May, gave Vicki the dues she had been denied. In a lengthy segment of Cold Case Kennedy, he traced Vicki’s step-by-step journey down the stairs in an elaborate and graphic timeline (pp. 351-62). He titled that part of his book “The women on the stairs,” the plural alluding to a neglected coworker who had accompanied Vicki. And again in 2013, historian James DiEugenio offered up an accurate and thorough examination of Vicki’s unabridged account in Reclaiming Parkland (pp. 91-95). The most recent mention of Vicki appears in Vince Palamara’s latest book, Honest Answers about the Murder of President John F. Kennedy: A New Look at the JFK Assassination. In this March 2021 volume, the author calls her version of events a “game changer” because “it proves that Oswald could not have been firing a rifle up on the sixth floor” (p. 110). Today, additional considerations of Vicki are being planned. Many years ago, Vicki tried to tell authorities her side of the story. “I said it so many times I got tired of saying it,” she once explained. But nobody wanted to hear it back then. “No one wanted to believe anything else other than what they wanted to believe.”

redhair...@gmail.com unread, Apr 22, 2019, 11:11:03 AM to Welcome Eugene Barnett said he looked immediately at the fire escape. He said he thought the shots came from the building and that everybody else was going to the wrong place, hence, he stayed on Houston Street east of the TSBD. Of course, he worked for the murderers, so one needs to read his testimony carefully. He's the traffic cop Baker whom thought was running into the building with him, but Barnett was actually running to the north loading dock, and then back. Mr. BARNETT - No, sir; because I was standing to close, was the reason. And I looked back again at the crowd, and the third shot was fired. And I looked up again, and I decided it had to be on top of that building. To me it is the only place the sound could be coming from. Mr. LIEBELER - What did you do when you concluded that the shots were coming from that building? Mr. BARNETT - I ran to the back of the building. Mr. LIEBELER - Ran down Houston Street? Mr. BARNETT - Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER - There is a door in the back of the Texas School Book Depository. Does it face on Houston or around the corner? Mr. BARNETT - It is around the corner from Houston Street. Mr. LIEBELER - Did you go in the building? Mr. BARNETT - No, sir; I didn't get close to it, because I was watching for a fire escape. If the man was on top, he would have to come down, and I was looking for a fire escape, and I didn't pay much attention to the door. I was still watching the top of the building, and so far as I could see, the fire escape on the east side was the only escape down. Mr. LIEBELER - Since you surmised that the shots had come from the building, you looked up and you didn't see any windows open. You thought they had been fired from the top of the building? Mr. BARNETT - That's right. Mr. LIEBELER - So you ran around here on Houston Street immediately to the east of the Texas School Book Depository Building and watched the fire escape? Mr. BARNETT - I went 20 foot past the building still on Houston, looking up. I could see the whole back of the building and also the east side of the building. Mr. LIEBELER - Did you see anybody coming off the fire escape up there, or any movement on top of the building? Mr. BARNETT - Not a thing. Mr. LIEBELER - What did you do after you went around behind the building? Mr. BARNETT - I went looked behind the building and I saw officers searching the railroad cars. I looked around in front towards the front of the building and I saw officers going west. Mr. LIEBELER - Going west down the little street there in front of the School Book Depository Building? Mr. BARNETT - Yes; but there was no sign they were going into the building or watching the building, so I decided I was the only one watching the building. So since this was the only fire escape and there were officers down here watching the this back door, I returned back around to the front to watch the front of the building and the fire escape.