Gerry Down

No talk of shrapnel here. Could he have been shot? The bullets were flying into the crowd, lots of opportunities for grazing injuries on people from the bullets.

Well he's right in one sense. People are questioning that, but those people have not provided any evidence of shrapnel heading Trumps way, or where such shrapnel might have come from.

I wonder if he was on here searching through the treads?

Elm street was sloped. So there was a safety factor there. I wonder which is more sloped - Elm street or the Butler roof.

I'll help you out Steve as you don't seem to understand. The bullet that entered the front of the throat and the bullet that entered the back were fired at the same time. Two different assassins. The bullet that entered the front of the throat struck the bullet that entered the back, mid-way inside JFKs neck. The bullets bounced off each other. The bullet that entered the front of the throat richoched back out the same hole it went in. The same with the bullet that entered from the back. The bullet that exited out the back hole landed on the top part of JFKs seat where Landis found it but then forgot about it for 50 years until he remembered it recently. The bullet that exited back out the front of the throat wound went on to hit Connolly.

How do you think the rifle got so far away from his body?

I would imagine if the bullet just grazed the ear, it would leave the type of wound described. Perhaps a millimetre contact. But I'm not a ballistics expert.

I think no sutures were needed because the wound was 2cm wide and the ear is cartilage. You can't suture a 2cm wide wound. Just best to leave it and put some gauze on it.

That's close enough for me. It sounds like the one bullet passed through both.

You're not suggesting you can decipher 1/8 of an inch off blurry Dealey plaza photos are you?

Agreed. We should be able to discuss the Trump assassination attempt in relation to the JFKA. We are not. Why? Because Trumps would-be assassin was a registered Republican, and left-wing individuals on this forum want Crooks to be a LN as a result. They don't want to entertain the idea that he was a patsy framed by left-wing entities. The JFKA assassination is a different matter. Left-wing individuals on this forum are happy to endorse the idea that the left-wing LHO was a patsy framed by right-wing entities. I've got a feeling that if LHO was a registered republican, alot of people who currently view LHO as a patsy would insist he was a LN. Its a shame politics comes into the JFKA like this. We should be able to study and research the JFKA independent of political viewpoints.

I never said Oswald was a lone nut. I think he's still a mystery 60 years later.

I'm too busy studying the JFKA to have time to study the 9/11 attacks.

That's why they call them the 9/11 hijackers. They took over a plane. Like one would take over a thread.

You've never heard of hijacking an airplane?

This thread has been moved to the political forum before there was any hint of politics being discussed on the thread. It's obvious what's happening here. Any thread which suggests the registered Republican was framed for the assassination attempt must be hidden. The threads you are moving are not political, you're the one who is political.

Ban the people who hijack threads. Don't ban the thread itself.

My thread had nothing to do with politics, therefore it had no business being in the political forum. My thread was about developing our understanding of Oswald's psyche by using Thomas Matthew Crooks as a comparison. That's why it was in the JFKA forum.

Why would officials move the rifle that far from his body and then retreat back down off the roof leaving the rifle there? If you've ever seen horror movies, the bad guy always comes back to life. I guess they could have used a drone to move the rifle, but I would have thought the more straightforward way would be to approach the body with guns drawn and remove the rifle by hand.

I guess there are two ways you could look at this. One view is that the rifle was planted on the TSBD to frame Oswald and the rifle was planted on the Butler roof to frame Crooks. The other way to view it is that neither were Oswald nor Crooks were framed. In other words, in the same way there is a straight forward explanation for Oswalds rifle being on the TSBD 6th floor (he brought it in wrapped in a paper bag), there is a straight forward explanation for the above photo of what appears to be Crooks AR-15 rifle being so far away from Crooks body on the roof. I don't know what that explanation is for Crooks rifle yet, but i'm sure one will be provided in due course.

Oh wait, i keep mixing these two guys up...

LHO threatened to blow up the FBI. TMC threatened to shoot up a school. Link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-classmate-recalls-trump-shooter-grilling-him-over-support-former-potus-did-not-like-politicians

How many times have we heard Oswald described like this 😆

LHO was smug and arrogant (using big words he didn't fully understand but for which Frazier had to go get a dictionary). TMC was smug and arrogant. An online article states: Taormina that Crooks was usually quiet, except on certain topics that he seemed passionate about, including math and politics. And on those issues, he could be "smug [and] arrogant," he added. "He would just talk, talk and act like he knew everything, especially politics related, and he would say it in a tone that was like, 'I'm better than you,' in a type of way," he said. Link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-classmate-recalls-trump-shooter-grilling-him-over-support-former-potus-did-not-like-politicians

Critiques are welcome. I would like for everyone to see your critique. But now they wont see it because your critique has been merged into a 23 page thread (my thread was only 3 pages long at the time it was removed) on a distant forum with no connection to the JFK assassination. A covert form of deletion.