Gerry Down

Never heard anyone questioning the towel before.

In studying the Church Committee reports with respect to the JFK assassination, i have realized that Church Committee published items consisted of the following: Report Book 1 Report Book 2 Report Book 3 Report Book 4 Report Book 5 (This is the book relating to the JFK assassination) Report Book 6 Hearings Book 1 Hearings Book 2 Hearings Book 3 Hearings Book 4 Hearings Book 5 Hearings Book 6 Hearings Book 7 However i then came across what is called a "staff report". Does anyone know what these "staff reports" are? I have never heard them being mentioned as being part of the final published reports and hearings by the Church Committee.

I guess Hill could not put his feet on the seat as JFK was sprawled out on the seat so Hill had to contort his legs.

Apparently there were several assassination attempts on Obama. Here's just one of them: https://www.politico.com/story/2011/11/man-charged-with-attempted-assassination-of-obama-068622 Makes me wonder if this new commission will only deal with the JFKA in a peripheral manner.

Good. We can finally get an investigation into the CAA (Connally Assassination Attempt) that has long been neglected. 😀

1964: Warren Report 1979: HSCA Report 1998: ARRB Report 2025: Presidential Commission on Assassination Attempts

It sounds like a new ARRB. Though technically the JFKA was not an assassination attempt, but an actual assassination.

For me the presidential election is just a spectator sport as I won't be voting.

What will he release, the JFK records collection? We need all the files at Langley from the 1960s, not just the JFK records collection. Though they will probably cite national security as to why all CIA files from the 1960s should not be released.

Interesting angle.

Oswald had difficulty buying a washing machine for Marina. From this it always looked to me like LHO was strapped for cash, at least in the fall of 1963. Did he get money before this we don't know about? Did GDM give him money? I don't know. But in the critical timeframe of the JFK assassination, it does not appear he had any extra noticeable cash.

With RFK jr endorsing Trump in return for a job in the White House, it would appear that if Trump wins in Nov there is a realistic chance there could be some serious movement in relation to the release of JFK files. For example, we might get a deeper insight into the Joannides/LHO connection in New Orleans in the summer of 1963. The MFF lawsuit could now become irrelevant.

I think Steve Roe answered this one well on page one of this thread. What quiet possibly happened is that Oswald reserved the book behind the counter in case the book would be gone by the time the library issued the card. But I'm open to other possibilities if someone has any other ideas.

It can't be a transcription error. We have both the check out date and the due back date. The two dates are Wednesdays spaced exactly 2 weeks apart, which was the normal book loan time for that library.

I would have thought that if Oswald used Ferries library card to take out a book, that would be registered at the library as though it was Ferrie himself who took out that book. Therefore that first book would not be traced to Oswald at all after the assassination. Furthermore if the library card was expired since March 1963, that library card wouldn't be able to be used to check out any books at all.

It would appear something thicker than a marker was used to block out the stamped address. Perhaps Oswald used a paint brush to ensure enough thickness of a light color would cover over the stamp. Did Oswald have access to a paint set? Were any paints found among his possessions after the assassination?

The blocked out text is unusual in the sense that these leaflets were yellow in color and it would appear the marker used to block out the text was of a similar light color, perhaps also yellow or a light grey. But one would imagine if you used a yellow or light grey marker for example, that that would not be enough to cover out the black stamped address underneath. You would think the stamped address would show through a light colored marker that was attempting to cover over it.

Thanks for that. To me this is a very clear copy.

There appears to be potentially cursive writing on the blocked out area, but i could be misinterpreting this.

Jean Ceulemans posted an interesting document (CE 1412) on another thread which I felt warranted its own thread due to its importance. This document shows one of the FPCC leaflets which LHO gave out at the Dumain St. Wharf around mid June 1963. Patrolman Girod Ray attained the leaflet and kept a copy of it which he produced to the FBI in the summer of 1964. As you can see, the address which LHO would have stamped onto the leaflet is blocked out. As this leaflet is very close in time to the timeframe when LHO said he had an office in New Orleans (as he wrote in a letter to V.T. Lee), the likelihood is that the address blocked out is non other than the 544 Camp Street address. We do have a Corless Lamont pamphlet with the 544 Camp Street address which Oswald had on him in Aug 1963, but we’ve never had one of the actual FPCC leaflets with the 544 Camp Street address stamped on it. It would appear this is one of these leaflets. It’s just the 544 Camp Street address is blocked out. So who blocked it out? Was it Oswald himself? Or the FBI? Or someone else? There appears to be a second smudge off to the right of where the stamped address would be. This second smudge appears to be something else that was blocked out. Any thoughts? Here is the leaflet (with what appears to be a second leaflet "The Truth About Cuba" LHO was handing out also which references President Kennedy): LINK: https://historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pdf/WH22_CE_1412.pdf (NOTE: The above link goes to a PDF of CE1412. On page 3 of that PDF, the numbers of the pages appear to be numbered starting at 1 and going to number 7 on the last page of the PDF. This is why there is a no. 5 written on the bottom of the above FPCC leafet and the no. 6 printed on the second leaflet on the right above which references President Kennedy.)

Very nice map. Please do share on this forum if you manage to find a clearer copy.

This would fall into the category of hearsay. Douglas Caddy says Phil Dyer said Clay Shaw said x,y,z. And even then it might not be that straight forward as there appears to be other people involved, such as a number of women. So it’s not clear if Phil Dyer heard Clay Shaw say something of if it’s one of the women who said what (they thought) Clay Shaw said and Douglas Caddy took it up wrong from Phil Dyer and thought Phil Dyer himself heard Clay Shaw say something when it might have been one of the women who relayed to Phil Dyer what Clay Shaw said.

So Humes took sections from the right cerebellum? Could this be the damage to the cerebellum that Stringer remembered seeing?

I think what could have been in the works here was to send in a few Amworld boats from central America filled with Cuban exiles, the US would pretend this was another bop invasion, and then send in the military to actually do the invading because the Amworld people were too few in numbers to actually do anything meaningful once they landed ashore in Cuba.

That is fascinating. One could argue the CIA edited them out because they knew of LHOs connection to INS in New Orleans. It would be interesting to see what else was edited out to see if any pattern emerges as to what the CIA did not want seen. That would involve a detailed study of comparing the final books to the draft. Of course such a study would need to be approached with caution as I presume the writers of the report themselves would be doing some editing themselves and not just the CIA. In which case it might not be possible to definitively say it was the CIA who edited out those INS footnotes.