Kathleen Collins Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Unless I'm becoming a fruit loop, I just watched the Zapruder Film and for the first time saw what looked like the driver turning around and shooting Kennedy! It seems impossible, but you must look at this. Watch the driver, the timing of the fatal shot and the white area on the grass, usually referred to as "the blob." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WCc_y5k0n8 Kathy
Bill Miller Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Unless I'm becoming a fruit loop, I just watched the Zapruder Film and for the first time saw what looked like the driver turning around and shooting Kennedy! It seems impossible, but you must look at this. Watch the driver, the timing of the fatal shot and the white area on the grass, usually referred to as "the blob."http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WCc_y5k0n8 Kathy If you watch the film in the wider mode ... Greer has his right hand on the wheel and as he turns back - his left arm coat sleeve is down by the drivers door panel and never reaches across his person so to shoot at anyone.
David G. Healy Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Unless I'm becoming a fruit loop, I just watched the Zapruder Film and for the first time saw what looked like the driver turning around and shooting Kennedy! It seems impossible, but you must look at this. Watch the driver, the timing of the fatal shot and the white area on the grass, usually referred to as "the blob."http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WCc_y5k0n8 Kathy If you watch the film in the wider mode ... Greer has his right hand on the wheel and as he turns back - his left arm coat sleeve is down by the drivers door panel and never reaches across his person so to shoot at anyone. praytell, WHAT is the wider mode? Geeeesh, you certainly can tell those that know film formats, and YOU aren't one. 4:3, 2:1, 16:9 c'mon Bill.... LMAO
Kathleen Collins Posted November 13, 2007 Author Posted November 13, 2007 Unless I'm becoming a fruit loop, I just watched the Zapruder Film and for the first time saw what looked like the driver turning around and shooting Kennedy! It seems impossible, but you must look at this. Watch the driver, the timing of the fatal shot and the white area on the grass, usually referred to as "the blob."http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WCc_y5k0n8 Kathy If you watch the film in the wider mode ... Greer has his right hand on the wheel and as he turns back - his left arm coat sleeve is down by the drivers door panel and never reaches across his person so to shoot at anyone. I know some witnesses said the shot seemed to come from within the car. I think I will look on my CD of the film. I mean, this even shocked me! Get back to ya. Kathy
David G. Healy Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 I think he means full screen. then perhaps he can tell us, thank you! After all, Bill Miller is a self proclaimed expert concerning films and photos of Dealey Plaza... unless of course you are too?
Jack White Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 No need to get snippy--this just has to do with a youtube video--what I am saying is that it appears that that's what he meant .I was just trying to clarify-- not create a problem. How does saying "means a full screen" even come close to professing to being an expert on Dealey Plaza photos? I neither said nor implied that. If you must know, I am an antialterationist, and even though I believe in a conspiracy, since I don't believe in the Zfilm alteration, I must be whatchamacallit, uhhh, one a them there Lone Neuters... An anti-alterationist is someone who has not bothered to look at the many proofs of alteration. Or if they have, they are dumb as a board. One more time... http://www.assassinationscience.com/johncostella/jfk/intro/ No offense intended to any person, living or dead. Jack
Denis Pointing Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) Unless I'm becoming a fruit loop, I just watched the Zapruder Film and for the first time saw what looked like the driver turning around and shooting Kennedy! It seems impossible, but you must look at this. Watch the driver, the timing of the fatal shot and the white area on the grass, usually referred to as "the blob."http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WCc_y5k0n8 Kathy Hi Kathleen, This ones been around for a while now, what you're actually seeing is light shining/reflecting off the other agents head. Denis. Edited November 13, 2007 by Denis Pointing
Bill Miller Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 praytell, WHAT is the wider mode? Geeeesh, you certainly can tell those that know film formats, and YOU aren't one. 4:3, 2:1, 16:9 c'mon Bill.... LMAO Thanks for another idiotic response, David. I am keeping a log of them ... seems like I am going to need more Ram at the rate you're going. The MPI film was done in Close-up - medium frame - wide frame. I cannot recall if there was a fourth one. I suggested that the next widest option be used to watch Greer's arms. Bill Miller
Bill Miller Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 An anti-alterationist is someone who has not bothered to look at the many proofs of alteration. Or if they have, they are dumb as a board. One more time... http://www.assassinationscience.com/johncostella/jfk/intro/ No offense intended to any person, living or dead. Jack Maybe you should read the forum a little closer, Jack. One of the book's participants has said that he has not seen any proof of alteration and that came after that ridiculous book you mentioned had been completed.
Bill Miller Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 then perhaps he can tell us, thank you! After all, Bill Miller is a self proclaimed expert concerning films and photos of Dealey Plaza... unless of course you are too? Now see, David ... maybe this is why you do get invites to film showings because you cannot produce a single sentence that I have ever written or been quoted whereas I called myself a film expert. I do however consult them. So you see, most people see you as a waste of shair space because you won't retain anything so to get it right anyway.
Mark Knight Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 (edited) I just watched the Zapruder Film and for the first time saw what looked like the driver turning around and shooting Kennedy! "And if you go chasing rabbits.....Tell 'em a hooka-smoking caterpillar has given you the call..."--Jefferson Airplane, White Rabbit. And down the rabbit hole we go once again... Edited November 14, 2007 by Mark Knight
Tim Gratz Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 Amen to that Mark! Let's hope this can be the end of it! That was a mighty fun group there by the way!
Thomas H. Purvis Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 Amen to that Mark! Let's hope this can be the end of it!That was a mighty fun group there by the way! Perhaps the answer lies within the question! "Unless I'm becoming a fruit loop," However, on the other hand: 1. Greer----------------------------------Front Shot 2. SS Agent George Hickey with the AR15------------Second Shot from behind 3. LHO in the window with "THE SHOT THAT MISSED" (we all know what a poor shot LHO was) CASE CLOSED! We can all go home now!
Bill Miller Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 Amen to that Mark! Let's hope this can be the end of it!Perhaps the answer lies within the question! "Unless I'm becoming a fruit loop," However, on the other hand: 1. Greer----------------------------------Front Shot 2. SS Agent George Hickey with the AR15------------Second Shot from behind 3. LHO in the window with "THE SHOT THAT MISSED" (we all know what a poor shot LHO was) CASE CLOSED! We can all go home now! You guys seemed to have missed something here. Kathleen had merely stated that she thought she had seen something on the Zapruder film. She does have a right to question things that she think she sees and that's why I gave her an explanation as to why Greer could not have shot anyone by way of what I have seen. To come out and start implying that she is a nut for even bringing up an observation she felt she had witnessed doesn't reflect well on the premise that this is supposed to be an "Education Forum". Bill Miller
Thomas H. Purvis Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 Amen to that Mark! Let's hope this can be the end of it!Perhaps the answer lies within the question! "Unless I'm becoming a fruit loop," However, on the other hand: 1. Greer----------------------------------Front Shot 2. SS Agent George Hickey with the AR15------------Second Shot from behind 3. LHO in the window with "THE SHOT THAT MISSED" (we all know what a poor shot LHO was) CASE CLOSED! We can all go home now! You guys seemed to have missed something here. Kathleen had merely stated that she thought she had seen something on the Zapruder film. She does have a right to question things that she think she sees and that's why I gave her an explanation as to why Greer could not have shot anyone by way of what I have seen. To come out and start implying that she is a nut for even bringing up an observation she felt she had witnessed doesn't reflect well on the premise that this is supposed to be an "Education Forum". Bill Miller this is supposed to be an "Education Forum". In most societies, "homework" is an essential element of education. The "Greer Shot JFK" subject has been repeatedly demonstrated as to it's general stupidity and lack of any research by many, for a long time. This is not the "re-education" Forum. If it is to be an intelligent discussion of the aspects of the assassination, one would expect some effort on the part of those who post here to conduct some research into their topic. Otherwise, this forum will look much like the other talk shows in which the forum will be flooded with absolute nonsense. I can show an old "NATIONAL ENQUIRER" which demonstrates photo's of JFK alive and living on some Carribbean Island with Brain Damage. Wanna discuss exactly how stupid I would look were it to be posted as a topic of discussion?
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