Jack White Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Altgens 5 and Zapruder 120 show different people in the Elm crosswalk at Houston. This is clearly impossible. If you can identify one of the 20 persons in the Z frame anywhere within the Altgens image, you will be awarded the Gerald Posner medal of superiority. Find two of the same people and win a Bugliosi oak leaf cluster. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Goin Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Jack, Again good catch !, I see only two possible matches. The man with the folded arms and the boy reported to be Mike Brownloh. BTW, Also in Altgen # 5 In the QM, Did he grow an extra arm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Jack, Altgens 5 and Zapruder 120 show different people in the Elm crosswalk at Houston.This is clearly impossible. If you can identify one of the 20 persons in the Z frame anywhere within the Altgens image, you will be awarded the Gerald Posner medal of superiority. I think the woman you have labeled number 5 in Zapruder is standing just to the policeman's right in Altgens. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I think the woman you have labeled number 5 in Zapruder is standing just to the policeman's right in Altgens.Steve Thomas This claim of Jack's has been addressed in the past. Different images - different angles ... the same can be said about how the people stack up in the Betzner and Willis photos verses the Bronson slide and/or the Zapruder film. It's simply a matter of reading the images correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 I think the woman you have labeled number 5 in Zapruder is standing just to the policeman's right in Altgens.Steve Thomas This claim of Jack's has been addressed in the past. Different images - different angles ... the same can be said about how the people stack up in the Betzner and Willis photos verses the Bronson slide and/or the Zapruder film. It's simply a matter of reading the images correctly. Since it is a simple matter, I hope "Miller" will match the people up. I cannot find any that match. Out of 20 in Zapruder, some should appear in Altgens. I did not mention Bronson nor Willis nor Betzner. Those are camouflage. I stated that the images were from different angles. A different viewpoint does not change the people or their clothes. Come on Bill...match them up for all of us with inferior visual skills. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I think the woman you have labeled number 5 in Zapruder is standing just to the policeman's right in Altgens.Steve Thomas This claim of Jack's has been addressed in the past. Different images - different angles ... the same can be said about how the people stack up in the Betzner and Willis photos verses the Bronson slide and/or the Zapruder film. It's simply a matter of reading the images correctly. Since it is a simple matter, I hope "Miller" will match the people up. I cannot find any that match. Out of 20 in Zapruder, some should appear in Altgens. I did not mention Bronson nor Willis nor Betzner. Those are camouflage. I stated that the images were from different angles. A different viewpoint does not change the people or their clothes. Come on Bill...match them up for all of us with inferior visual skills. Jack Find the standing cop Jack, then the rest will fall in place. Here's a hint...think '20'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Since it is a simple matter, I hope "Miller" will match the people up. I cannot find any that match. It will be even a simpler matter to do a forum search for I know its been covered in the past ... probably more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Where would either cop be (if not one in the same) in Zapruder? http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r25/123steamn/2.jpg thanks, chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Got it. MPI's version is a little clearer. Thanks Duncan. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Thanks Jack. I don't recall this particular topic being covered before. I have been looking at the Z-frames trying to find the guy in the military uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hint...the cop is standing by a lane road STRIPE on Elm. He is in the middle of the intersection, either by the north or south stripe; the perspective makes it hard to determine. In my opinion the cop should be in Zapruder frames, but is not. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hint...the cop is standing by a lane road STRIPE on Elm. He is in the middle of theintersection, either by the north or south stripe; the perspective makes it hard to determine. In my opinion the cop should be in Zapruder frames, but is not. Jack Lane marker OR crosswalk marker? Sorry the cop is there on the far right in Zapruder. With that location found, the rest fall right in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 The cop is standing by a lane stripe, probably the north one. He should be in the middle of the intersection approximately, but is not seen in Zapruder. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 (edited) The cop is standing by a lane stripe, probably the north one. He should bein the middle of the intersection approximately, but is not seen in Zapruder. Jack Really...the MIDDLE eh? Care to show us an image with the lane stripes EXTENDING into the intersection and not stopping at the crosswalk stripes? You are simply misunderstanding the perspective as viewed from Altgens. Edited January 17, 2008 by Craig Lamson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 The behavior of the people in the alleged Altgens 5 photo is quite peculiar. The president is a half block away, and yet most of the people are not looking that direction. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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