William Kelly Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) Lawrence Schiller was in Dallas over the assassination weekend, as he took an interesting photo of an annimated Oswald, and the alleged assassination rifle being held up. http://www.younggalleryphoto.com/photograp...r/images/09.jpg See: Photos scroll down - to #9 and 10 - And who is #11? http://www.younggalleryphoto.com/photograp...r/schiller.html He also is reported to have a photo of Jack Ruby, though I've yet to see that. Schiller assisted his good friend Norman Mailer in writing about Oswald, and co-authored the unflattering profile of early critics in the paperback The Scavengers and Critics of the Warren Report. I just started looking into Schiller because someone had suggested that the man in the backyard posing in the photo John Simkin posted for me was Lawrence Schiller, but it certainly isn't Schiller. For photo of Schiller: http://essemundoeumhospicio.zip.net/arch20...2009-01-31.html The other man in the backyard photos: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&id=18267 This person may be posing in the backyard at the direction of Schiller however, as I have yet to ascertain who the guy really is. Does anybody know who this guy is? He certainly looks familiar. Is it a Dallas cop? In the meantime, while looking into Schiller's background, I discovered that he not only is a scavanger himself, having done Whitewash jobs of Lenny Bruce, Monroe and others, he also directed a movie The Plot to Kill Hitler - a major motion picture released in 1990, about the Valkyrie plot. http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-sto...ers-final-gift/ Neat Movie Poster: http://www.forum.wiaderko.com/en/filmy-oby...ull-dvd-pl.html Directed by: Lawrence Schiller Writers: Steven Elkins Genre: Drama, War Country: U.S., Yugoslavia Year of manufacture: 1990 Duration: 94 min. Rating: 8.45 / 10 In the last days of Nazi Germany, a group of senior officers, led by aristocrat, Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg risking all to save what was still the war-damaged nation. Their goal: to kill the Fuhrer in a strategic meeting at the Wolf's rampart. Operation Valkyrie - a rescue plan for the Third Reich, could change the fate of the bloody World War II. A moving film showing an amazing tale of sacrifice and heroism, which have been behind the plan. Edited November 17, 2009 by William Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martha Moyer Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Lawrence Schiller was in Dallas over the assassination weekend, as he took an interesting photo of an annimated Oswald, and the alleged assassination rifle being held up. http://www.younggalleryphoto.com/photograp...r/images/09.jpg See: Photos scroll down - to #9 and 10 - And who is #11? http://www.younggalleryphoto.com/photograp...r/schiller.html He also is reported to have a photo of Jack Ruby, though I've yet to see that. Schiller assisted his good friend Norman Mailer in writing about Oswald, and co-authored the unflattering profile of early critics in the paperback The Scavengers and Critics of the Warren Report. I just started looking into Schiller because someone had suggested that the man in the backyard posing in the photo John Simkin posted for me was Lawrence Schiller, but it certainly isn't Schiller. For photo of Schiller: http://essemundoeumhospicio.zip.net/arch20...2009-01-31.html The other man in the backyard photos: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&id=18267 This person may be posing in the backyard at the direction of Schiller however, as I have yet to ascertain who the guy really is. Does anybody know who this guy is? He certainly looks familiar. Is it a Dallas cop? In the meantime, while looking into Schiller's background, I discovered that he not only is a scavanger himself, having done Whitewash jobs of Lenny Bruce, Monroe and others, he also directed a movie The Plot to Kill Hitler - a major motion picture released in 1990, about the Valkyrie plot. http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-sto...ers-final-gift/ Neat Movie Poster: http://www.forum.wiaderko.com/en/filmy-oby...ull-dvd-pl.html Directed by: Lawrence Schiller Writers: Steven Elkins Genre: Drama, War Country: U.S., Yugoslavia Year of manufacture: 1990 Duration: 94 min. Rating: 8.45 / 10 In the last days of Nazi Germany, a group of senior officers, led by aristocrat, Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg risking all to save what was still the war-damaged nation. Their goal: to kill the Fuhrer in a strategic meeting at the Wolf's rampart. Operation Valkyrie - a rescue plan for the Third Reich, could change the fate of the bloody World War II. A moving film showing an amazing tale of sacrifice and heroism, which have been behind the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Those with interest in the path that led Norman Mailer to write "Oswald's Tale" and appear in "Oswald's Ghost" by Robert Stone may like to examine Mailer's long involvement with Schiller as co-author, photographer, researcher, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martha Moyer Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Lawrence Schiller was in Dallas over the assassination weekend, as he took an interesting photo of an annimated Oswald, and the alleged assassination rifle being held up. http://www.younggalleryphoto.com/photograp...r/images/09.jpg See: Photos scroll down - to #9 and 10 - And who is #11? http://www.younggalleryphoto.com/photograp...r/schiller.html He also is reported to have a photo of Jack Ruby, though I've yet to see that. Schiller assisted his good friend Norman Mailer in writing about Oswald, and co-authored the unflattering profile of early critics in the paperback The Scavengers and Critics of the Warren Report. I just started looking into Schiller because someone had suggested that the man in the backyard posing in the photo John Simkin posted for me was Lawrence Schiller, but it certainly isn't Schiller. For photo of Schiller: http://essemundoeumhospicio.zip.net/arch20...2009-01-31.html The other man in the backyard photos: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&id=18267 This person may be posing in the backyard at the direction of Schiller however, as I have yet to ascertain who the guy really is. Does anybody know who this guy is? He certainly looks familiar. Is it a Dallas cop? In the meantime, while looking into Schiller's background, I discovered that he not only is a scavanger himself, having done Whitewash jobs of Lenny Bruce, Monroe and others, he also directed a movie The Plot to Kill Hitler - a major motion picture released in 1990, about the Valkyrie plot. http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-sto...ers-final-gift/ Neat Movie Poster: http://www.forum.wiaderko.com/en/filmy-oby...ull-dvd-pl.html Directed by: Lawrence Schiller Writers: Steven Elkins Genre: Drama, War Country: U.S., Yugoslavia Year of manufacture: 1990 Duration: 94 min. Rating: 8.45 / 10 In the last days of Nazi Germany, a group of senior officers, led by aristocrat, Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg risking all to save what was still the war-damaged nation. Their goal: to kill the Fuhrer in a strategic meeting at the Wolf's rampart. Operation Valkyrie - a rescue plan for the Third Reich, could change the fate of the bloody World War II. A moving film showing an amazing tale of sacrifice and heroism, which have been behind the plan. Lawrence Schiller and Billy Woodfield (the latter -Jack's biographer, of sorts) were "Two free lance photographers . . . " spent time shooting stills of Marilyn Monroe in her last unfinished film "Something's Got to Give". Schiller was also one of the few last people to see Marilyn alive On Saturday, August 4 (1962) when, at around 10 AM he arrived at her home saying he had come to discuss a magazine feature exploiting the pictures taken on the set of "Something's Got to Give". MARILYN MONROE, The Biography. Donald Spoto, 1993. pp 354 524, 566. Somewhere (I hate to be vague - but I cannot locate where I found this information but maybe it is known or has been posted here at one time or another) I read where it was Schiller who accompanied Earl Ruby when a tape recorder was secreted into Jack's room at the hospital and he made a final statement accepting all blame for the shooting of Oswald. Martha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Simkin Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Bill, have you seen this thread?: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=5923 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 The backyard photo pose of the unknown man was given to me as a slide copy in 1975 by Fred Newcomb. Handwritten on the slide mount is LAWRENCE SCHILLER. I have no idea what the meaning of the writing was. I always assumed that the photo was from Schiller. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 Lawrence Schiller was in Dallas over the assassination weekend, as he took an interesting photo of an annimated Oswald, and the alleged assassination rifle being held up. http://www.younggalleryphoto.com/photograp...r/images/09.jpg See: Photos scroll down - to #9 and 10 - And who is #11? http://www.younggalleryphoto.com/photograp...r/schiller.html He also is reported to have a photo of Jack Ruby, though I've yet to see that. Schiller assisted his good friend Norman Mailer in writing about Oswald, and co-authored the unflattering profile of early critics in the paperback The Scavengers and Critics of the Warren Report. I just started looking into Schiller because someone had suggested that the man in the backyard posing in the photo John Simkin posted for me was Lawrence Schiller, but it certainly isn't Schiller. For photo of Schiller: http://essemundoeumhospicio.zip.net/arch20...2009-01-31.html The other man in the backyard photos: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&id=18267 This person may be posing in the backyard at the direction of Schiller however, as I have yet to ascertain who the guy really is. Does anybody know who this guy is? He certainly looks familiar. Is it a Dallas cop? In the meantime, while looking into Schiller's background, I discovered that he not only is a scavanger himself, having done Whitewash jobs of Lenny Bruce, Monroe and others, he also directed a movie The Plot to Kill Hitler - a major motion picture released in 1990, about the Valkyrie plot. http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-sto...ers-final-gift/ Neat Movie Poster: http://www.forum.wiaderko.com/en/filmy-oby...ull-dvd-pl.html Directed by: Lawrence Schiller Writers: Steven Elkins Genre: Drama, War Country: U.S., Yugoslavia Year of manufacture: 1990 Duration: 94 min. Rating: 8.45 / 10 In the last days of Nazi Germany, a group of senior officers, led by aristocrat, Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg risking all to save what was still the war-damaged nation. Their goal: to kill the Fuhrer in a strategic meeting at the Wolf's rampart. Operation Valkyrie - a rescue plan for the Third Reich, could change the fate of the bloody World War II. A moving film showing an amazing tale of sacrifice and heroism, which have been behind the plan. Lawrence Schiller and Billy Woodfield (the latter -Jack's biographer, of sorts) were "Two free lance photographers . . . " spent time shooting stills of Marilyn Monroe in her last unfinished film "Something's Got to Give". Schiller was also one of the few last people to see Marilyn alive On Saturday, August 4 (1962) when, at around 10 AM he arrived at her home saying he had come to discuss a magazine feature exploiting the pictures taken on the set of "Something's Got to Give". MARILYN MONROE, The Biography. Donald Spoto, 1993. pp 354 524, 566. Somewhere (I hate to be vague - but I cannot locate where I found this information but maybe it is known or has been posted here at one time or another) I read where it was Schiller who accompanied Earl Ruby when a tape recorder was secreted into Jack's room at the hospital and he made a final statement accepting all blame for the shooting of Oswald. Martha Hi Martha, Thanks for chiming in. I'm not usually one to judge a person, but this guy Schiller is something else. He hawks a tape recording of a Ruby deathbed interview, tells the FBI who one of Mark Lane's confidential informants is, and is hired by Life Mag as a specialist on homosexuals to write an analysis of Clay Shaw. The more I learn about the guy the more he irritates me. And here he is, reportedly, working for CBS in 1967, getting someone that hasn't yet been identified, to pose in the backyard four years to the day - week - Marina is said to have taken the photos of Oswald with the murder weapons and commie mags. While I haven't confirmed that Schiller took this particular back yard photo yet, or was working for CBS at the time, CBS was most certainly working on a special report on the assassination, and John J. McCloy and the photo evidence had a lot to do with it. ARRB MD 17 – CBS – Memorandum from Les Midgley to John J. McCloy (1/11/67) pg http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...absPageId=66496 Dear Mr. McCloy: Thanks very much for letting me see this proof. I agree that it is a very well reasoned and excellent summary of the critics and their cases. Maybe Professor Goodhart would be a good man to participate in our project. We will talk to him as well as Lord Devlin. As we get into the pathology side of the case it seems more important than ever for us to get a statement – if possible – from Humes, Boswell and Finck that examination of the x-rays and color pictures does not change their findings and we certainly would appreciate your assistance in obtaining some. All three have absolutely refused to be interviewed and Dr. Humes would not even see one of our producers in person, preferring to talk on the telephone. (I have been told, by a man who is a personal friend of Dr. Humes, that he says one of the x-rays shows a wire left in the bullet path through the neck. If this is indeed true, publication of same would resolve forever the discussion about back verses neck wound and generally settle the dust about the autopsy.) Thanks again for your interest, Leslie Midgley Executive Producer, Special Reports Mr. John J. McCloy Milbank, Tweed, Hedley, & McCloy One Chase Manhattan Plaza New York, New York, January 11, 1967 McCloy & CBS Report 1967 - June 28, 1967 10:00 PM 4 parts UNREHEARSED NEWS INTERVIEW WITH JOHN J. MCCLOY, FORMER HIGH COMMISSION NARA R# 1993.06.25.16:29:48:120140 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...sPageId=1026077 CBS ASSASSINAITONS STUDY CONFIRMS WARREN REPORT Oswald 201 File, Vol. 55 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...sPageId=1026246 CBS NEWS INQUIRY: THE WARREN REPORT http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=2 Schiller tapes interview with Ruby, 12/16/66 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...ancedResults.do March 16, 67 Schiller and Life and Homos http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=734681 JFK Exhibit F-178 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=354 HSCA Report, Volume II pg 419 Analysis of Backyard Photos http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...absPageId=38823 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernice Moore Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 (edited) Lawrence Schiller was in Dallas over the assassination weekend, as he took an interesting photo of an annimated Oswald, and the alleged assassination rifle being held up. http://www.younggalleryphoto.com/photograp...r/images/09.jpg See: Photos scroll down - to #9 and 10 - And who is #11? http://www.younggalleryphoto.com/photograp...r/schiller.html He also is reported to have a photo of Jack Ruby, though I've yet to see that. Schiller assisted his good friend Norman Mailer in writing about Oswald, and co-authored the unflattering profile of early critics in the paperback The Scavengers and Critics of the Warren Report. I just started looking into Schiller because someone had suggested that the man in the backyard posing in the photo John Simkin posted for me was Lawrence Schiller, but it certainly isn't Schiller. For photo of Schiller: http://essemundoeumhospicio.zip.net/arch20...2009-01-31.html The other man in the backyard photos: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&id=18267 This person may be posing in the backyard at the direction of Schiller however, as I have yet to ascertain who the guy really is. Does anybody know who this guy is? He certainly looks familiar. Is it a Dallas cop? In the meantime, while looking into Schiller's background, I discovered that he not only is a scavanger himself, having done Whitewash jobs of Lenny Bruce, Monroe and others, he also directed a movie The Plot to Kill Hitler - a major motion picture released in 1990, about the Valkyrie plot. http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-sto...ers-final-gift/ Neat Movie Poster: http://www.forum.wiaderko.com/en/filmy-oby...ull-dvd-pl.html Directed by: Lawrence Schiller Writers: Steven Elkins Genre: Drama, War Country: U.S., Yugoslavia Year of manufacture: 1990 Duration: 94 min. Rating: 8.45 / 10 In the last days of Nazi Germany, a group of senior officers, led by aristocrat, Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg risking all to save what was still the war-damaged nation. Their goal: to kill the Fuhrer in a strategic meeting at the Wolf's rampart. Operation Valkyrie - a rescue plan for the Third Reich, could change the fate of the bloody World War II. A moving film showing an amazing tale of sacrifice and heroism, which have been behind the plan. Lawrence Schiller and Billy Woodfield (the latter -Jack's biographer, of sorts) were "Two free lance photographers . . . " spent time shooting stills of Marilyn Monroe in her last unfinished film "Something's Got to Give". Schiller was also one of the few last people to see Marilyn alive On Saturday, August 4 (1962) when, at around 10 AM he arrived at her home saying he had come to discuss a magazine feature exploiting the pictures taken on the set of "Something's Got to Give". MARILYN MONROE, The Biography. Donald Spoto, 1993. pp 354 524, 566. Somewhere (I hate to be vague - but I cannot locate where I found this information but maybe it is known or has been posted here at one time or another) I read where it was Schiller who accompanied Earl Ruby when a tape recorder was secreted into Jack's room at the hospital and he made a final statement accepting all blame for the shooting of Oswald. Martha Hi Martha, Thanks for chiming in. I'm not usually one to judge a person, but this guy Schiller is something else. He hawks a tape recording of a Ruby deathbed interview, tells the FBI who one of Mark Lane's confidential informants is, and is hired by Life Mag as a specialist on homosexuals to write an analysis of Clay Shaw. The more I learn about the guy the more he irritates me. And here he is, reportedly, working for CBS in 1967, getting someone that hasn't yet been identified, to pose in the backyard four years to the day - week - Marina is said to have taken the photos of Oswald with the murder weapons and commie mags. While I haven't confirmed that Schiller took this particular back yard photo yet, or was working for CBS at the time, CBS was most certainly working on a special report on the assassination, and John J. McCloy and the photo evidence had a lot to do with it. ARRB MD 17 – CBS – Memorandum from Les Midgley to John J. McCloy (1/11/67) pg http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...absPageId=66496 Dear Mr. McCloy: Thanks very much for letting me see this proof. I agree that it is a very well reasoned and excellent summary of the critics and their cases. Maybe Professor Goodhart would be a good man to participate in our project. We will talk to him as well as Lord Devlin. As we get into the pathology side of the case it seems more important than ever for us to get a statement – if possible – from Humes, Boswell and Finck that examination of the x-rays and color pictures does not change their findings and we certainly would appreciate your assistance in obtaining some. All three have absolutely refused to be interviewed and Dr. Humes would not even see one of our producers in person, preferring to talk on the telephone. (I have been told, by a man who is a personal friend of Dr. Humes, that he says one of the x-rays shows a wire left in the bullet path through the neck. If this is indeed true, publication of same would resolve forever the discussion about back verses neck wound and generally settle the dust about the autopsy.) Thanks again for your interest, Leslie Midgley Executive Producer, Special Reports Mr. John J. McCloy Milbank, Tweed, Hedley, & McCloy One Chase Manhattan Plaza New York, New York, January 11, 1967 McCloy & CBS Report 1967 - June 28, 1967 10:00 PM 4 parts UNREHEARSED NEWS INTERVIEW WITH JOHN J. MCCLOY, FORMER HIGH COMMISSION NARA R# 1993.06.25.16:29:48:120140 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...sPageId=1026077 CBS ASSASSINAITONS STUDY CONFIRMS WARREN REPORT Oswald 201 File, Vol. 55 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...sPageId=1026246 CBS NEWS INQUIRY: THE WARREN REPORT http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=2 Schiller tapes interview with Ruby, 12/16/66 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...ancedResults.do March 16, 67 Schiller and Life and Homos http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=734681 JFK Exhibit F-178 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=354 HSCA Report, Volume II pg 419 Analysis of Backyard Photos http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...absPageId=38823 here's a few more bill you may not have...b hey marty.. Chapter 15, The Select Committee on Assassinations, The ... To firmly implant the idea that the JFK assassination was a Castro plot. ..... The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald, whose co-director, Lawrence Schiller, ... www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ToA/ToAchp15.html - Cached coverthistory.blogspot.com/2005_07_01_archive.html - Cached * WHO WAS CHARLIE MANSON! How many of the people involved in that assassination worked in our state department, ...... Just like the FBI did not find James Earl Ray. Scotland Yard did it. .... He was almost dead out at Community Hospital after just going down our ..... A man named Lawrence Schiller made a record with Jack Ruby on January the ... www.think-aboutit.com/. ________________________________ Chapter 15, The Select Committee on Assassinations, The ... To firmly implant the idea that the JFK assassination was a Castro plot. ..... The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald, whose co-director, Lawrence Schiller, ... www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ToA/ToAchp15.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.blogtoplist.com/politics/blogdetails-24956.html * America in the 1960s | USA Today (Society for the Advancement of ... When, in 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested after the assassination of Pres. John F. Kennedy, interrogated, and two days later killed, Schiller was ... and 'Into the Mirror," all of which he made into television mini-series for CBS. ... findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1272/is_2756.../ai_n27506242 Edited November 18, 2009 by Bernice Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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