Dean Hagerman Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I have spent about an hour looking at the Z frames showing the pyracantha bush.I have decided that all the twigs were introduced by the animators to lessen the task of animating the limousine and what was happening with the occupants, who are all obscured at a critical time. The bush was not that tall and unruly. Jack Jack I agree 100% Here is a reply I just sent to Gary Mack, with some more of my thoughts on this issue Dean, Before you go patting yourself and everyone else on the back for this latest "discovery," you might want to find out exactly when the FBI/Secret Service test pictures were made. That might have an effect on the size and condition of the bush. Gary Mack Gary I could care less about the FBI/Secret service test pictures I am talking about the way the Pyracantha bush looks in Zapruder, like Jack says it looks untrimmed and has branches and leaves all out of wack Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder? IMO, the bottom half of the Z-film was filmed before the assassination, then the top half was a mixture of the film taken by Zapruder and the other cameraman as seen in Betzner The real film of the assassination (as viewed by rich Dellarosa, whom I belive by the way, why would he lie about something as important as another film?) was used with the top half of the film taken by Zapruder to create the version we see today They had to take out the wide limo turn onto Elm, the limo stop, the brain matter going back, DCM stepping out into the road and signaling Greer to stop the limo This Pyracantha bush post by Jack makes me feel very strong about this theory I would love to hear your thoughts Dean "Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder?" Dean, I suggest you look at some of the photos with better resolution, such as Altgens 8, the Color Rickerby slide, Stoughton, and Murray. You'll find plenty of "out of control" branches sticking up from the top of the bush that could have most certainly appeared in Zapruder's film. Todd Todd I have already checked every picture in my archive (that includes all the ones you listed) None of the ones you listed show the out of control branches as shown in Zapruder Altgens 8 is a picture that I find hard to swallow Ike Altgens said himself that he did not take that picture And while I like Richard Trask alot and own all of his books, I think he went a little to far in POTP trying to discredit Altgens and claim he was an old man who was loosing his mind and he did in fact take the picture we see as Altgens 8 Dean, ALL of the photos I listed show branches sticking up from the top of the bush, specifically from the suth end of the top of the bush, just like we see in Zapruder. Todd Todd Not to the extant of that of the Z-film Im not saying that in Rickerby and Stoughton you cant see a little bit of unruly branches barley sticking up from the pyracantha bush, but overall it still looks very well trimmed In Zapruder the bush looks very untrimmed and out of control (kind of like the bushes in my front yard ) No need to keep going back and forth, thanks for your opinion Todd I have heard great things about your work on the photographic evidence in the assassination I look forward to seeing some of your work and any theories you have Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I have spent about an hour looking at the Z frames showing the pyracantha bush.I have decided that all the twigs were introduced by the animators to lessen the task of animating the limousine and what was happening with the occupants, who are all obscured at a critical time. The bush was not that tall and unruly. Jack Jack I agree 100% Here is a reply I just sent to Gary Mack, with some more of my thoughts on this issue Dean, Before you go patting yourself and everyone else on the back for this latest "discovery," you might want to find out exactly when the FBI/Secret Service test pictures were made. That might have an effect on the size and condition of the bush. Gary Mack Gary I could care less about the FBI/Secret service test pictures I am talking about the way the Pyracantha bush looks in Zapruder, like Jack says it looks untrimmed and has branches and leaves all out of wack Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder? IMO, the bottom half of the Z-film was filmed before the assassination, then the top half was a mixture of the film taken by Zapruder and the other cameraman as seen in Betzner The real film of the assassination (as viewed by rich Dellarosa, whom I belive by the way, why would he lie about something as important as another film?) was used with the top half of the film taken by Zapruder to create the version we see today They had to take out the wide limo turn onto Elm, the limo stop, the brain matter going back, DCM stepping out into the road and signaling Greer to stop the limo This Pyracantha bush post by Jack makes me feel very strong about this theory I would love to hear your thoughts Dean "Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder?" Dean, I suggest you look at some of the photos with better resolution, such as Altgens 8, the Color Rickerby slide, Stoughton, and Murray. You'll find plenty of "out of control" branches sticking up from the top of the bush that could have most certainly appeared in Zapruder's film. Todd Todd I have already checked every picture in my archive (that includes all the ones you listed) None of the ones you listed show the out of control branches as shown in Zapruder Altgens 8 is a picture that I find hard to swallow Ike Altgens said himself that he did not take that picture And while I like Richard Trask alot and own all of his books, I think he went a little to far in POTP trying to discredit Altgens and claim he was an old man who was loosing his mind and he did in fact take the picture we see as Altgens 8 Dean, ALL of the photos I listed show branches sticking up from the top of the bush, specifically from the suth end of the top of the bush, just like we see in Zapruder. Todd Todd Not to the extant of that of the Z-film Im not saying that in Rickerby and Stoughton you cant see a little bit of unruly branches barley sticking up from the pyracantha bush, but overall it still looks very well trimmed In Zapruder the bush looks very untrimmed and out of control (kind of like the bushes in my front yard ) No need to keep going back and forth, thanks for your opinion Todd I have heard great things about your work on the photographic evidence in the assassination I look forward to seeing some of your work and any theories you have Dean All the talk about Zapruder film alternation is obsolete and meaningless if it doesn't take into consideration the Zapruder Film Mystery chapter in Volume IV of Doug Horne's Inside the Assassination Records Review Board. Has anybody read it yet? It's pretty radical and should make everyone, on both sides of the argument, re-evaluate what they know or think they know about the film. Bill Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd W. Vaughan Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I have spent about an hour looking at the Z frames showing the pyracantha bush.I have decided that all the twigs were introduced by the animators to lessen the task of animating the limousine and what was happening with the occupants, who are all obscured at a critical time. The bush was not that tall and unruly. Jack Jack I agree 100% Here is a reply I just sent to Gary Mack, with some more of my thoughts on this issue Dean, Before you go patting yourself and everyone else on the back for this latest "discovery," you might want to find out exactly when the FBI/Secret Service test pictures were made. That might have an effect on the size and condition of the bush. Gary Mack Gary I could care less about the FBI/Secret service test pictures I am talking about the way the Pyracantha bush looks in Zapruder, like Jack says it looks untrimmed and has branches and leaves all out of wack Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder? IMO, the bottom half of the Z-film was filmed before the assassination, then the top half was a mixture of the film taken by Zapruder and the other cameraman as seen in Betzner The real film of the assassination (as viewed by rich Dellarosa, whom I belive by the way, why would he lie about something as important as another film?) was used with the top half of the film taken by Zapruder to create the version we see today They had to take out the wide limo turn onto Elm, the limo stop, the brain matter going back, DCM stepping out into the road and signaling Greer to stop the limo This Pyracantha bush post by Jack makes me feel very strong about this theory I would love to hear your thoughts Dean "Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder?" Dean, I suggest you look at some of the photos with better resolution, such as Altgens 8, the Color Rickerby slide, Stoughton, and Murray. You'll find plenty of "out of control" branches sticking up from the top of the bush that could have most certainly appeared in Zapruder's film. Todd Todd I have already checked every picture in my archive (that includes all the ones you listed) None of the ones you listed show the out of control branches as shown in Zapruder Altgens 8 is a picture that I find hard to swallow Ike Altgens said himself that he did not take that picture And while I like Richard Trask alot and own all of his books, I think he went a little to far in POTP trying to discredit Altgens and claim he was an old man who was loosing his mind and he did in fact take the picture we see as Altgens 8 Dean, ALL of the photos I listed show branches sticking up from the top of the bush, specifically from the suth end of the top of the bush, just like we see in Zapruder. Todd Todd Not to the extant of that of the Z-film Im not saying that in Rickerby and Stoughton you cant see a little bit of unruly branches barley sticking up from the pyracantha bush, but overall it still looks very well trimmed In Zapruder the bush looks very untrimmed and out of control (kind of like the bushes in my front yard ) No need to keep going back and forth, thanks for your opinion Todd I have heard great things about your work on the photographic evidence in the assassination I look forward to seeing some of your work and any theories you have Dean Dean, To quantify things, there seem to be only about 6 or 7 or so branches sticking up from the top of the bush - the rest of what we see below them seem to actually be the top branches of the fuller body of the bush. This matches what we see in Rickerby, Stoughton and Murray, photos whose resolution is sufficient enough to make such a judgment. This Murray photo, Murray 2-4, shows the branches at the south end of the bush, and they are far from being very well trimmed. Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd W. Vaughan Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I have spent about an hour looking at the Z frames showing the pyracantha bush.I have decided that all the twigs were introduced by the animators to lessen the task of animating the limousine and what was happening with the occupants, who are all obscured at a critical time. The bush was not that tall and unruly. Jack Jack I agree 100% Here is a reply I just sent to Gary Mack, with some more of my thoughts on this issue Dean, Before you go patting yourself and everyone else on the back for this latest "discovery," you might want to find out exactly when the FBI/Secret Service test pictures were made. That might have an effect on the size and condition of the bush. Gary Mack Gary I could care less about the FBI/Secret service test pictures I am talking about the way the Pyracantha bush looks in Zapruder, like Jack says it looks untrimmed and has branches and leaves all out of wack Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder? IMO, the bottom half of the Z-film was filmed before the assassination, then the top half was a mixture of the film taken by Zapruder and the other cameraman as seen in Betzner The real film of the assassination (as viewed by rich Dellarosa, whom I belive by the way, why would he lie about something as important as another film?) was used with the top half of the film taken by Zapruder to create the version we see today They had to take out the wide limo turn onto Elm, the limo stop, the brain matter going back, DCM stepping out into the road and signaling Greer to stop the limo This Pyracantha bush post by Jack makes me feel very strong about this theory I would love to hear your thoughts Dean "Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder?" Dean, I suggest you look at some of the photos with better resolution, such as Altgens 8, the Color Rickerby slide, Stoughton, and Murray. You'll find plenty of "out of control" branches sticking up from the top of the bush that could have most certainly appeared in Zapruder's film. Todd Todd I have already checked every picture in my archive (that includes all the ones you listed) None of the ones you listed show the out of control branches as shown in Zapruder Altgens 8 is a picture that I find hard to swallow Ike Altgens said himself that he did not take that picture And while I like Richard Trask alot and own all of his books, I think he went a little to far in POTP trying to discredit Altgens and claim he was an old man who was loosing his mind and he did in fact take the picture we see as Altgens 8 Dean, ALL of the photos I listed show branches sticking up from the top of the bush, specifically from the suth end of the top of the bush, just like we see in Zapruder. Todd Todd Not to the extant of that of the Z-film Im not saying that in Rickerby and Stoughton you cant see a little bit of unruly branches barley sticking up from the pyracantha bush, but overall it still looks very well trimmed In Zapruder the bush looks very untrimmed and out of control (kind of like the bushes in my front yard ) No need to keep going back and forth, thanks for your opinion Todd I have heard great things about your work on the photographic evidence in the assassination I look forward to seeing some of your work and any theories you have Dean Dean, To quantify things, there seem to be only about 6 or 7 or so branches sticking up from the top of the bush - the rest of what we see below them seem to actually be the top branches of the fuller body of the bush. This matches what we see in Rickerby, Stoughton and Murray, photos whose resolution is sufficient enough to make such a judgment. This Murray photo, Murray 2-4, shows the branches at the south end of the bush, and they are far from being very well trimmed. Todd The Murray photo did not upload, I'll try again here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Hagerman Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I have spent about an hour looking at the Z frames showing the pyracantha bush.I have decided that all the twigs were introduced by the animators to lessen the task of animating the limousine and what was happening with the occupants, who are all obscured at a critical time. The bush was not that tall and unruly. Jack Jack I agree 100% Here is a reply I just sent to Gary Mack, with some more of my thoughts on this issue Dean, Before you go patting yourself and everyone else on the back for this latest "discovery," you might want to find out exactly when the FBI/Secret Service test pictures were made. That might have an effect on the size and condition of the bush. Gary Mack Gary I could care less about the FBI/Secret service test pictures I am talking about the way the Pyracantha bush looks in Zapruder, like Jack says it looks untrimmed and has branches and leaves all out of wack Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder? IMO, the bottom half of the Z-film was filmed before the assassination, then the top half was a mixture of the film taken by Zapruder and the other cameraman as seen in Betzner The real film of the assassination (as viewed by rich Dellarosa, whom I belive by the way, why would he lie about something as important as another film?) was used with the top half of the film taken by Zapruder to create the version we see today They had to take out the wide limo turn onto Elm, the limo stop, the brain matter going back, DCM stepping out into the road and signaling Greer to stop the limo This Pyracantha bush post by Jack makes me feel very strong about this theory I would love to hear your thoughts Dean "Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder?" Dean, I suggest you look at some of the photos with better resolution, such as Altgens 8, the Color Rickerby slide, Stoughton, and Murray. You'll find plenty of "out of control" branches sticking up from the top of the bush that could have most certainly appeared in Zapruder's film. Todd Todd I have already checked every picture in my archive (that includes all the ones you listed) None of the ones you listed show the out of control branches as shown in Zapruder Altgens 8 is a picture that I find hard to swallow Ike Altgens said himself that he did not take that picture And while I like Richard Trask alot and own all of his books, I think he went a little to far in POTP trying to discredit Altgens and claim he was an old man who was loosing his mind and he did in fact take the picture we see as Altgens 8 Dean, ALL of the photos I listed show branches sticking up from the top of the bush, specifically from the suth end of the top of the bush, just like we see in Zapruder. Todd Todd Not to the extant of that of the Z-film Im not saying that in Rickerby and Stoughton you cant see a little bit of unruly branches barley sticking up from the pyracantha bush, but overall it still looks very well trimmed In Zapruder the bush looks very untrimmed and out of control (kind of like the bushes in my front yard ) No need to keep going back and forth, thanks for your opinion Todd I have heard great things about your work on the photographic evidence in the assassination I look forward to seeing some of your work and any theories you have Dean Dean, To quantify things, there seem to be only about 6 or 7 or so branches sticking up from the top of the bush - the rest of what we see below them seem to actually be the top branches of the fuller body of the bush. This matches what we see in Rickerby, Stoughton and Murray, photos whose resolution is sufficient enough to make such a judgment. This Murray photo, Murray 2-4, shows the branches at the south end of the bush, and they are far from being very well trimmed. Todd Todd Just look at the branches sticking straight up in Zapruder You dont see that major untrimming in Rickerby, Stoughton or Murray Todd I have all of these pictures and have looked at all of them in detail You can post all the Murray's, Stoughton's and Rickerby's that you want Its not going to change my mind Unless you find a picture that shows the pyracantha bush as it was on 11/22/63 at 12:30 to 12:35 or so that I have not studied in the last day then I stand correct on this Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd W. Vaughan Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I have spent about an hour looking at the Z frames showing the pyracantha bush.I have decided that all the twigs were introduced by the animators to lessen the task of animating the limousine and what was happening with the occupants, who are all obscured at a critical time. The bush was not that tall and unruly. Jack Jack I agree 100% Here is a reply I just sent to Gary Mack, with some more of my thoughts on this issue Dean, Before you go patting yourself and everyone else on the back for this latest "discovery," you might want to find out exactly when the FBI/Secret Service test pictures were made. That might have an effect on the size and condition of the bush. Gary Mack Gary I could care less about the FBI/Secret service test pictures I am talking about the way the Pyracantha bush looks in Zapruder, like Jack says it looks untrimmed and has branches and leaves all out of wack Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder? IMO, the bottom half of the Z-film was filmed before the assassination, then the top half was a mixture of the film taken by Zapruder and the other cameraman as seen in Betzner The real film of the assassination (as viewed by rich Dellarosa, whom I belive by the way, why would he lie about something as important as another film?) was used with the top half of the film taken by Zapruder to create the version we see today They had to take out the wide limo turn onto Elm, the limo stop, the brain matter going back, DCM stepping out into the road and signaling Greer to stop the limo This Pyracantha bush post by Jack makes me feel very strong about this theory I would love to hear your thoughts Dean "Why does the Pyracantha bush look perfectly trimmed with no out of control branches in Bronson, Bond, Moorman and the other pictures took at the same time as Zapruder?" Dean, I suggest you look at some of the photos with better resolution, such as Altgens 8, the Color Rickerby slide, Stoughton, and Murray. You'll find plenty of "out of control" branches sticking up from the top of the bush that could have most certainly appeared in Zapruder's film. Todd Todd I have already checked every picture in my archive (that includes all the ones you listed) None of the ones you listed show the out of control branches as shown in Zapruder Altgens 8 is a picture that I find hard to swallow Ike Altgens said himself that he did not take that picture And while I like Richard Trask alot and own all of his books, I think he went a little to far in POTP trying to discredit Altgens and claim he was an old man who was loosing his mind and he did in fact take the picture we see as Altgens 8 Dean, ALL of the photos I listed show branches sticking up from the top of the bush, specifically from the suth end of the top of the bush, just like we see in Zapruder. Todd Todd Not to the extant of that of the Z-film Im not saying that in Rickerby and Stoughton you cant see a little bit of unruly branches barley sticking up from the pyracantha bush, but overall it still looks very well trimmed In Zapruder the bush looks very untrimmed and out of control (kind of like the bushes in my front yard ) No need to keep going back and forth, thanks for your opinion Todd I have heard great things about your work on the photographic evidence in the assassination I look forward to seeing some of your work and any theories you have Dean Dean, To quantify things, there seem to be only about 6 or 7 or so branches sticking up from the top of the bush - the rest of what we see below them seem to actually be the top branches of the fuller body of the bush. This matches what we see in Rickerby, Stoughton and Murray, photos whose resolution is sufficient enough to make such a judgment. This Murray photo, Murray 2-4, shows the branches at the south end of the bush, and they are far from being very well trimmed. Todd Todd Just look at the branches sticking straight up in Zapruder You dont see that major untrimming in Rickerby, Stoughton or Murray Todd I have all of these pictures and have looked at all of them in detail You can post all the Murray's, Stoughton's and Rickerby's that you want Its not going to change my mind Unless you find a picture that shows the pyracantha bush as it was on 11/22/63 at 12:30 to 12:35 or so that I have not studied in the last day then I stand correct on this Dean Dean, In this Stoughton enlargment I've placed a red dot over 11 different untrimmed branches that would quite possibly appear in Zapruders view sticking straight up from the very top of the body of the bush. That's more than enough needed to account for what we see in the film. Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Hagerman Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Todd Like I said those branches are hardly untrimmed Look at how they stick up just a tad bit above the main part of the bush In Zapruder the branches are sticking up more then a foot I know Zappy was closer to the bush then Stoughton, but not that much closer to cause a huge difference like we see in Zappy Thanks for trying again, I have no problem saying im wrong if I see another picture that shows the amount and large length of untrimmed branches as Zappy shows Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 ToddLike I said those branches are hardly untrimmed Look at how they stick up just a tad bit above the main part of the bush In Zapruder the branches are sticking up more then a foot I know Zappy was closer to the bush then Stoughton, but not that much closer to cause a huge difference like we see in Zappy Thanks for trying again, I have no problem saying im wrong if I see another picture that shows the amount and large length of untrimmed branches as Zappy shows Dean Maybe Chris Davidson can answer this. What i think we are seeing in Zapruder, is the camera on "FULL ZOOM" to try and capture a close up of the occupants in the limo. One of the by products of this being, that the pycanthra bush leaves look closer to the camera than they really were, and appear to be magnified in size. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd W. Vaughan Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 ToddLike I said those branches are hardly untrimmed Look at how they stick up just a tad bit above the main part of the bush In Zapruder the branches are sticking up more then a foot I know Zappy was closer to the bush then Stoughton, but not that much closer to cause a huge difference like we see in Zappy Thanks for trying again, I have no problem saying im wrong if I see another picture that shows the amount and large length of untrimmed branches as Zappy shows Dean Dean, It would be interesting to know exactly how you determined that the branches in Zapruder are more than 12 inches tall, and/or that the branches we see in the Stoughton, Murray and Altgens photo are shorter than those in Zapruder. Not only was Zapruder closer to the bush, he was using the zoom feature of his camera. The branches we see in Zapruder seem completely compatable with those that we see in the photos. Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 All the talk about Zapruder film alternation is obsolete and meaningless if it doesn't take into consideration the Zapruder Film Mystery chapter in Volume IV of Doug Horne's Inside the Assassination Records Review Board. Has anybody read it yet? It's pretty radical and should make everyone, on both sides of the argument, re-evaluate what they know or think they know about the film. Bill Kelly Why not summarize it for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 ToddLike I said those branches are hardly untrimmed Look at how they stick up just a tad bit above the main part of the bush In Zapruder the branches are sticking up more then a foot I know Zappy was closer to the bush then Stoughton, but not that much closer to cause a huge difference like we see in Zappy Thanks for trying again, I have no problem saying im wrong if I see another picture that shows the amount and large length of untrimmed branches as Zappy shows Dean Lordy lordy deano BELIEVES! Instead of making meaningless statements about how you THINK something might behave (based on zero knowlege I might add), why don't you do a nice empirical study to show the principle you espouse in action? Oh wait...far easier to just believe...sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Hagerman Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) It would be interesting to know exactly how you determined that the branches in Zapruder are more than 12 inches tallThe branches we see in Zapruder seem completely compatable with those that we see in the photos. Todd It would be even more interesting to know how you determined that the branches in Zappy seem COMPLETLY COMPATABLE with those that we see in the photos. Please dont post your Stoughton red dot picture as proof because that shows nothing close to the out of control branches shown in Zappy Dean Edited December 1, 2009 by Dean Hagerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 ToddLike I said those branches are hardly untrimmed Look at how they stick up just a tad bit above the main part of the bush In Zapruder the branches are sticking up more then a foot I know Zappy was closer to the bush then Stoughton, but not that much closer to cause a huge difference like we see in Zappy Thanks for trying again, I have no problem saying im wrong if I see another picture that shows the amount and large length of untrimmed branches as Zappy shows Dean Maybe Chris Davidson can answer this. What i think we are seeing in Zapruder, is the camera on "FULL ZOOM" to try and capture a close up of the occupants in the limo. One of the by products of this being, that the pycanthra bush leaves look closer to the camera than they really were, and appear to be magnified in size. ? Robin, I would agree the camera was on full zoom. Other than that, it's questionable. Here are 2 more comparison frames for you. And the matching movie. The light pole in the upper right corner was never moved. Compare these with Shaneyfelt's and the SS film frame that you posted earlier. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Robin/others If interested, This would be the full filming pass of the vehicle I used in the previous posting. http://98.155.2.54:8400/B1798/ZAPRUDER.flv chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Hagerman Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I think Robin brings up a good point about Zappys camera being on zoom But even so look at these two images Even with Zappy being closer to the bush then Stoughton the branches are just way to long and out of control Hey Craig do you have any trophies or yard sticks sitting around to do another amazing study? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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