Judyth Vary Baker: Living in Exile

[Dean Hartwell]

Jack,

Lee had made specific assertions supporting the idea of a LEE and HARVEY. Instead of allowing Jim or Judyth to respond to these assertions, you announced your general conclusion which did not assist anyone in determining whether Lee was correct or not on any counts. Even your comment on who had the driver's license merely re-states your conclusion because it pre-supposes the idea of LEE and HARVEY.

My comment had nothing to do with your previous research. It has to do with creating a better conversation among all of us.

Dean

---

Dean, apparently you are not aware of my research. I have been saying that which you find objectionable

for 20 years. I was saying it long before JVB came on the scene. You accuse me OF STATING THE DISTINCTIONS

BETWEEN LEE AND HARVEY by ANNOUNCING MY CONCLUSION PREMATURELY.

How can that be? I announced my conclusions 20 years ago. My research is well known.

Jack

Jack,

Your reply below does not help a discussion of whether there were a "Lee" and a "Harvey." By stating the distinctions between LEE and HARVEY, you announce your conclusion prematurely. Why not let Jim or Judyth respond to Lee Farley's rebuttal.

Lee has asked fair questions, but from my point of view, his rebuttals do not rule out the possibility of several imposters.

Dean

Excellent and accurate summation, Lee.

It is an important distinction that LEE could drive and had a license, and HARVEY could not drive and had no license.

Jack

If Jim struggles with the concept of two Lee Harvey Oswald's can he (or JVB) tell us

a. who the hell J. Edgar Hoover was chasing around in 1960 using LHO's birth certificate?

REPLY: Lee was in deep cover. He told me he would be able to resume a normal life

when he returned due to records generated that made it seem he had never gone to

the USSR. His meddling mom messed that up. How could Hoover ignore the mother?

He had to respond. Lee said she was a 'meddler' in his business. I wish I knew more.

b. who did Palmer McBride work with in Pfisterer in New Orleans?

Because I am very familiar with Lee's past in New Orleans: he talked of it. Lee did like

astronomy and I believe that part. He is alive and is aware of his vulnerabilities as to his

testimony. More on this later.

c. who was impersonating LHO in Mexico City?

==There is no doubt Lee was impersonated there. [NOTE: Even J. Edgar acknowledge that

the photos and audio recording from Mexico City were not those of Lee Harvey Oswald.]==

d. who was at the rifle ranges in the lead up to the assassination?

==There is no doubt Lee was impersonated there. The problem is, there was more than one

impersonator, and these impersonators are being neglected or ignored in favor of just one

man who cannot be found and who, in fact, does not exist, per se, except in files that had

created deep cover for the only and real LHO ==

e. who was at Sylvia Odio's house?

==Lee was there==

f. who was at Red Bird Air Field attempting to charter a plane from Wayne January while

LHO was at work in the TSBD?

==He did that, too. You simply assume Lee was 'at work' at TSBD. Remember that the day

Lee was arrested, his time card for the day was ALREADY FILLED OUT FOR A FULL 8 HOURS.

Yes, it showed him working there for a full day -- 8 hours -- when he was missing from that

building not long after the mid-day assassination. You assume he was at the job, but it was

a cover job, just as at Reily's. He told me it was even better than at Reily's because there

was no time clock to worry about -- everything got filled out by hand.==

g. who was buying beer and brittle from Fred Moore in the Jiffy store on Industrial Blvd?

==Do not assume he was always at the TSBD -- it is a fatal assumption==

h. who was arrested in the balcony of the Texas Theater and taken out the rear after LHO

was arrested and taken out the front?

==There were impersonators at the end, from Mexico City on. One impersonator who ran in

the the Texas Theater AFTER LHO was already inside==whom the FBI informant at the shoe

store then conveniently made sure was reported to the police by the frightened ticket-seller,

who burst into tears when she was asked if it was REALLY the same guy that they brought out

-- the guy who sold the popcorn shows us that Lee was already inside when Tippit was killed.==

i. who owned all the wallets that were found over the course of 22nd-23rd November?

==Lee owned one and the other was planted, just like the rifle was planted, etc., etc.==

e. who was in the red Ford Falcon seen, and identified as LHO, by T.F. White?

==Lee H. Oswald could drive. His uncle, cousin, and I have all reported that. The people who

say he could not drive are largely Marina "Sequestered Widow" Oswald and Ruth "Convenient

Traitor" Paine.==

f. who owned the driving license in the files of the TDPS in Austin?

==Lee owned it. He told me about it early on, along with why he did not get a car in New Orleans...

While in Texas, he had laid it aside somewhere because the Texas highway patrol, he told me, had

"flagged' it saying he was a 'known communist.' He therefore avoided driving as much as possible...

and also did not have the license on him, in case he ever got arrested so he wouldn't ever get beat

up by the police. Most of these questions have simple answers when you know what happened... I

assume the license was found and returned to the Texas Drivers' License Bureau. Maybe he left it

behind at the "YMCA"? Who knows? He old me he left it behind in Texas. I once lost my driver's

license and it was returned to the state bureau. (I lived in Texas myself for over 18 years.)==

I'm sorry but the evidence of two Oswald's is overwhelming.

==Only if you swallow a theory and ignore a witness who can provide reasonable and sensible answers

for you. I have stated, and will again, that there is plenty of 'evidence' that the sun circles the earth,

when actually, it is the earth that is turning, and the earth itself is actually circling the sun. But medieval

thinkers had "the evidence" and it was "overwhelming." But it wasn't true, either.==

John Armstrong's hypothesis might not be perfect but it's as good as it can be with the info he had.

==I wish he had interviewed me. He decided that, because I wasn't pregnant, I could not have posed as

Marina. He jumped to conclusions.

He missed a witness, based on his assumption that I had to be pregnant if I posed as Marina.

He forgot that Marina was all but sequestered.

She never went to the French Quarter, for example.

And I posed as Marina BEFORE she arrived in New Orleans.

Note that when Marina and Ruth Paine visited the French Quarter in late September, before Marina was

taken to Irving Texas--at which time she and Lee wept because he told her they probably would never

meet again--for Lee and I had planned to marry in Mexico -- (see the 'official version' book MARINA

AND LEE). He was soon ordered back to Dallas after the mission he had in Mexico City was called off --

though they'd promised him he could stay.

That night just before leaving New Orleans, when Marina and Ruth went to the French Quarter, Lee did

not go with them.

Lee and I had spent a lot of time in the French Quarter. He did not want to be seen with Marina and Ruth

in case somebody might have called out, "Oswald! Where's Marina?" So he did not go with them.They took

the kids with them...he stayed behind, by himself...==

JVB

a) I find this difficult to believe. I would think that if LHO was being run as an agent out of Angleton’s office through the ONI then surely Robert Webster would have been run the same way. Webster defected two weeks before Oswald and then miraculously re-defected two weeks before. There was no attempt to generate records to make it seem that Webster had never gone to the USSR. It was common knowledge, reported in the newspapers, according to him he knew Marina Prusakova, he worked for the RAND Corporation, and there seems no special dispensation afforded upon his return to the U.S.A. like the one you believe was going to be afforded Lee if it wasn’t for his “meddling” mother. It doesn’t add up. Why run an agent and then try to eradicate or alter records to show they didn’t go? I would assume that the USSR would keep their records? Newspaper articles can’t go down the Nineteen –Eighty Four memory hole? People like Guy Banister would still have records.

b. Whether Lee worked at Pfisterer is not the issue. I think we can all take it as read that Lee worked there. It is the year that he worked there that is of significance. McBride claims he knew Lee at Pfisterer between December 1957 and May 1958. If this is correct then we have a second Oswald in the Marines during this time period. The Warren Commission dealt with this by pushing back the date of Oswald’s employment to 1956.On the subject of Lee’s interest in astrology, McBride claims that Oswald knew very little about the subject. When he was introduced to William Wulf (President of the New Orleans Astronomy Club), Wulf claims that Oswald knew so little about it that he wondered why he wanted to join. Oswald seemed to use the meeting he attended at Wulf’s house to look through the political books and argue with the other members about communism. The exchanges becoming so heated that Wulf’s father threw him out the house. Wulf also claimed to know Oswald in 1958, not 1956 as per the Warren Commission.

c) Is the suggestion here that LHO never went to Mexico City within the currently accepted timeframes? I fully appreciate that he was impersonated by person/persons but when did he go?

d) It is the Sport Drome event (Sunday, November 17th) that grabs my attention. Oswald was identified by Garland Slack after Oswald shot up Garland targets whilst “burning up ammunition.” The element of this story that gives it a greater meaning is that Slack was insistent that a guy by the name of Frazier from Irving had brought Lee to the range. Earleen Roberts claimed that Lee didn’t go anywhere that day and its greater importance is that Oswald was supposed to be in Irving over the weekend visiting his kids.

e) If it's Lee at Sylvia Odio's house then he can't be going south. So, again, LHO didn’t go to Mexico City?

f) The thing that gets me about the Red Bird Air Field situation is this. Wayne January stated that on the morning of 20th November 1963 someone who claims to be Oswald was trying to charter a plane. Yes, you are right, he was supposed to be in the TSBD but if this job was a cover then it’s feasible that he could leave whenever he wanted. The problem I have with this is who was running the cover for him in the TSBD? I am familiar with the work of Richard Gilbride regarding his theory that certain employees in the TSBD were involved in the assassination and I am open to this idea. The spanner in the works is this. On Wednesday 20th of November at 10:30am Ralph Yates picked up a man who he claims was Oswald and took him to the TSBD carrying a package that the “Oswald” stated were “…curtain rods.” So, do we again have two Oswald’s to account for? Assuming there isn’t a third in the TSBD.

g) He must have worked there at some point. Even if it’s to maintain a cover you have to be there so people see you actually working. It would appear that this guy spent less time at work than Homer Simpson.

Here is John Armstrong’s breakdown of who saw LHO at the TSBD at the described times on November 22nd:

8:00 am --- Wesley Frazier, Bonnie Ray Williams, Danny Arce, Roy Truly, Jack Dougherty

8:00 am until noon --- William Shelley --- "I saw him periodically all morning"

8:30 am --- Wesley Frazier

9:00 am --- James Jarman

10:00 am --- Roy Lewis, Eddie Piper

11:00 am --- Jack Dougherty, Wesley Frazier

11:30 am --- James Jarman, Bonnie Ray Williams

11:50 am --- William Shelley, Danny Arce

12:00 noon --- Jack Dougherty, Eddie Piper

12:15 pm --- Mrs. R.E. Arnold

Oswald’s presence in the Jiffy store was at 8:30am. He bought beer resulting in showing his driver license. The store clerk Fred Moore claims that he returned at 9:00am to buy some peco brittle. Now,either Fred Moore is mistaken, the TSBD employees are lying or there are two Oswald’s. Multiple people also saw LHO at the Top Ten Records store on Jefferson at 7:30am, whilst he was driving to the TSBD with BW Frazier.

h) Agreed on the points concerning impersonation at the Texas Theater. Although we also have Roger Craig’s sighting of the “double” leaving the TSBD in the Nash Rambler and the other LHO leaving the area by bus and cab.

i) There were more than two wallets.

j) I would say that’s it’s more than possible that he could drive. But that doesn’t explain the guy driving the Red Ford Falcon. You see, T.F. White saw him sitting in it in a car park a block away from Davis Street. At this point in time Lee Harvey Oswald was already under arrest and on his way to the city jail.

k) I would again reiterate that I think it possible he could drive but obviously someone was using his driving license if we are to believe the observations of Fred Moore from the Jiffy Store.

I appreciate your replies to my questions Judyth and I will continue to wade through all this information.

Lee

[Karl Kinaski]

L Farley:

I say that because "[my] rebuttals", if you wish to call them that, demonstrate the probability of several impostors.

May I join here? What about the photographed LHO in Mexico-City, outside the (cuban, soviet?) embassy? What about the LHO at the Ford-salesman NOLA 20.1.1961?

What about the Oswald at the Lincoln-Mercury-Shop at Dealy Plaza? The other Ossi in the Texas Theater? The Oswald in the cuban consulate in NOLA Sep. 63? The Ossi at the Shooting ranch in Dallas? JVB knew the one and only real Oswald, who was surrounded by imposters, which didn't even look like him! (I am talking about the pic of the Mexico-city Ossi...)...call it ID-Charade... Armstrong is wrong, by claiming there where only two of them...

KK

[Dean Hartwell]

Lee,

It appeared to me you supported a LEE and HARVEY (or 2-Oswald theory) when you wrote this:

I'm sorry but the evidence of two Oswald's is overwhelming.

Your rebuttals showed evidence to me of multiple imposters, so it appeared to conflict with the statement above.

Which do you mean -

1) a LEE and HARVEY scenario, with one man accused of the JFK assassination and subsequently killed and the other man used to setting the first man up?

2) the same scenario with multiple imposters

3) multiple imposters

Dean

Dean, apparently you are not aware of my research. I have been saying that which you find objectionable

for 20 years. I was saying it long before JVB came on the scene. You accuse me OF STATING THE DISTINCTIONS

BETWEEN LEE AND HARVEY by ANNOUNCING MY CONCLUSION PREMATURELY.

How can that be? I announced my conclusions 20 years ago. My research is well known.

Jack

I have to agree with Jack. I didn't reply to Dean because I couldn't get to grips with the meaning of his message. Maybe he can clarify what he was trying to say?

It was this that confused me the most:

"Lee has asked fair questions, but from my point of view, his rebuttals do not rule out the possibility of several imposters"

I say that because "[my] rebuttals", if you wish to call them that, demonstrate the probability of several impostors.

I don't personally think he meant anything disrespectful to you or your work Jack, I just don't think it was written very well.

Lee

[Dean Hartwell]

Lee,

Instead of giving a chance for Jim or Judyth to respond to what you wrote, Jack interrupted with a point already well known to many and not helpful in getting answers to what you said. I object to his form. His substance was not the point.

Dean

Jack,

Lee had made specific assertions supporting the idea of a LEE and HARVEY. Instead of allowing Jim or Judyth to respond to these assertions, you announced your general conclusion which did not assist anyone in determining whether Lee was correct or not on any counts. Even your comment on who had the driver's license merely re-states your conclusion because it pre-supposes the idea of LEE and HARVEY.

My comment had nothing to do with your previous research. It has to do with creating a better conversation among all of us.

Dean

Sorry mate. I was replying whilst you were hence my post questioning you after your response to Jack.

To be perfectly honest Dean, I'm still not getting it. Sorry. Jack 100% believes in Lee and Harvey being separate entities so his conclusions will always be "announced" as such...

Sorry if I'm being a bit of a pain in the you know what here...

Lee

[Barb Junkkarinen]

Some anonymous bullcrapper wrote:

Well, *that* certainly sums it up nicely, Jack! Well put.

Bests,

Barb :-)

[Guest James H. Fetzer]

IN RESPONSE TO JACK'S ATTACKS, JUDYTH HAS COMPOSED A POEM

NOTE: It seems to me only appropriate that Judyth should have the last

word on a thread devoted to her, which has now reached a record of 1,200

posts. Thanks to everyone who participated, including, especially, my dear

friend Jack. I should also observe that Ed Haslam will be featured as a guest

on "Coast to Coast" tomorrow night and will be talking about cancer-research,

bio-weapons, New Orleans, Judyth Vary Baker, and ME & LEE. Check it out.

FINAL THOUGHTS FROM JUDYTH

White's Little Sprite

Jack White--

just what Sprite

piped up, saying, "Dear Jim--

it seems, my old friend,

you write for Judyth, who's Dim!

She's surely unable

to write such replies--

She's dumb, and she rambles,

and has such bad eyes!

Oh Jim, I must chide you!

You surely can't be

posing as Vary ("Avary" to me!)--

She's simply unable

To write quite this well!"

(But WHO wrote this poem, Jack?

Prithee--do tell!)

I must say 'adieu," to sprites, trolls and gnomes,

I've miles to travel, between varied homes:

Yet I will posit--how else could it be

for Jack -- a believer--in "Harvey" and "Lee"

but to think that Another was taking my place

--and next, bring out photos

of an Imposter's face?

Jack, I'm still hoping

you'll remember your friend,

a man you once trusted

and should trust again.

JVB

SOME FINAL SUGGESTIONS FROM JIM:

Or visit this page: http://www.judythvarybaker.com/pages/Donate.htm

Ed Haslam maintains this page on behalf of Judty Vary Baker. And he will

appear on "Coast to Coast" tomorrow night, Thursday, 15 April 2010, to

discuss cancer research, bioweapons, and ME & LEE. Check it out! For

more on Judyth, visit her new blog at http://judythbaker.blogspot.com/

Edited April 14, 2010 by James H. Fetzer

[Dean Hartwell]

Lee,

It appeared to me you supported a LEE and HARVEY (or 2-Oswald theory) when you wrote this:

I'm sorry but the evidence of two Oswald's is overwhelming.

Your rebuttals showed evidence to me of multiple imposters, so it appeared to conflict with the statement above.

Which do you mean -

1) a LEE and HARVEY scenario, with one man accused of the JFK assassination and subsequently killed and the other man used to setting the first man up?

2) the same scenario with multiple imposters

3) multiple imposters

Dean

Great question Dean. Thanks for clarifying. Simple answer. I don't know. I haven't made my mind up...how's that for some fence sitting? I'm gonna need these splinters removed.

If you forced me to choose I would plump for number (2), but my mind swings around in circles and my questions for Judyth were to gain her insights on lots of confusing data. There is massive amounts of evidence that supports two Oswald's. I'd agree with Jim F and say that you need to keep an open mind on it all. The minute you make your mind up for certain then it can limit your thinking on other things. Wouldn't you agree?

If I may merge this into Karl's reply too. I think there were people impersonating him who didn't have to specifically look like him in certain situations (Mexico - which resulted in post-assassination embarrassment when a photo of Mike Ditka is published) and there were times when the "double" was used.

Hell, if I had the answer's Dean I'd be a wealthy man.

Cheers

Lee

P.S. I think the question is "do I believe in a Harvey and Lee from such a young age?" There was, in my mind, a definitive "Harvey and Lee" in the assassination run-up and the Texas Theater incident is proof of that alone. I keep toying with the idea of Marguerite having twins and a separation process occurring as some sort of MKULTRA type experiment. Can I ask? What are your own thoughts on all of this?

Lee,

With my legal background, I focus on how much evidence is needed to prove a certain point. Proving HARVEY and LEE requires a great deal of evidence because it is so specific.

Also, the use of a permanent double would have incurred the risk of the "framed" person figuring out the scheme. Or the double could have revealed himself to the public after the assassination. It would seem a conspiracy would not want to bring about any unnecessary risks. Using several impersonators would likely mean telling each of them less about the plot than one would have to tell a permanent one.

Because of the strong likelihood that this specific claim has been rebutted (ex: the assertion that the tooth supposedly belonging to LEE but having been paid for by Lee's aunt) and because of its impracticability, I do not believe HARVEY and LEE has been proven to be true.

Dean

[Barb Junkkarinen]

SOME RELEVANT BACKGROUND THAT APPEARS TO SUPPORT JUDYTH STORY

ABOUT SV-40:

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

Not a question here, as information on the polio vaccine, SV-40, etc was well known and much written about and studied long before Judyth emerged as a "witness."

[William Kelly]

IN RESPONSE TO JACK'S ATTACKS, JUDYTH HAS COMPOSED A POEM

NOTE: It seems to me only appropriate that Judyth should have the last

word on a thread devoted to her, which has now reached a record of 1,200

posts. Thanks to everyone who participated, including, especially, my dear

friend Jack. I should also observe that Ed Haslam will be featured as a guest

on "Coast to Coast" tomorrow night and will be talking about cancer-research,

bio-weapons, New Orleans, Judyth Vary Baker, and ME & LEE. Check it out.

FINAL THOUGHTS FROM JUDYTH

White's Little Sprite

Jack White--

just what Sprite

piped up, saying, "Dear Jim--

it seems, my old friend,

you write for Judyth, who's Dim!

She's surely unable

to write such replies--

She's dumb, and she rambles,

and has such bad eyes!

Oh Jim, I must chide you!

You surely can't be

posing as Vary ("Avary" to me!)--

She's simply unable

To write quite this well!"

(But WHO wrote this poem, Jack?

Prithee--do tell!)

I must say 'adieu," to sprites, trolls and gnomes,

I've miles to travel, beween varied homes:

Yet I will posit--how else could it be

for Jack -- a believer---in "Harvey" and "Lee"

but to think that Another was taking my place

--and next, bring out photos

of an Imposter's face?

Jack, I'm still hoping

you'll remember your friend,

a man you once trusted

and should trust again.

JVB

Or visit this page: http://www.judythvarybaker.com/pages/Donate.htm

Ed Haslam maintains this page on behalf of Judty Vary Baker. And he will

appear on "Coast to Coast" tomorrow night, Thursday, 15 April 2010, to

discuss cancer research, bioweapons, and ME & LEE. Check it out! For

more on Judyth, visit her new blog at http://judythbaker.blogspot.com/

Now we're supposed to send her money?

BK

[Guest James H. Fetzer]

That was my suggestion, Bill. Edward Haslam maintains the page on her behalf.

If you don't want to support her, that is obviously your choice. To correct any false

impression, I have gone back and pointed out that this came from me. It's an option.

IN RESPONSE TO JACK'S ATTACKS, JUDYTH HAS COMPOSED A POEM

NOTE: It seems to me only appropriate that Judyth should have the last

word on a thread devoted to her, which has now reached a record of 1,200

posts. Thanks to everyone who participated, including, especially, my dear

friend Jack. I should also observe that Ed Haslam will be featured as a guest

on "Coast to Coast" tomorrow night and will be talking about cancer-research,

bio-weapons, New Orleans, Judyth Vary Baker, and ME & LEE. Check it out.

FINAL THOUGHTS FROM JUDYTH

White's Little Sprite

Jack White--

just what Sprite

piped up, saying, "Dear Jim--

it seems, my old friend,

you write for Judyth, who's Dim!

She's surely unable

to write such replies--

She's dumb, and she rambles,

and has such bad eyes!

Oh Jim, I must chide you!

You surely can't be

posing as Vary ("Avary" to me!)--

She's simply unable

To write quite this well!"

(But WHO wrote this poem, Jack?

Prithee--do tell!)

I must say 'adieu," to sprites, trolls and gnomes,

I've miles to travel, beween varied homes:

Yet I will posit--how else could it be

for Jack -- a believer---in "Harvey" and "Lee"

but to think that Another was taking my place

--and next, bring out photos

of an Imposter's face?

Jack, I'm still hoping

you'll remember your friend,

a man you once trusted

and should trust again.

JVB

Or visit this page: http://www.judythvarybaker.com/pages/Donate.htm

Ed Haslam maintains this page on behalf of Judty Vary Baker. And he will

appear on "Coast to Coast" tomorrow night, Thursday, 15 April 2010, to

discuss cancer research, bioweapons, and ME & LEE. Check it out! For

more on Judyth, visit her new blog at http://judythbaker.blogspot.com/

Now we're supposed to send her money?

BK

Edited April 14, 2010 by James H. Fetzer

[Kathleen Collins]

Now we're supposed to send her money?

BK

I am laughing hysterically. I love your reaction. I can't catch my breath.

Kathy C

[Kathleen Collins]

On a serious note, I don't feel like going throught 81 pages of posts to find the one where I asked Judyth if she could read papyrus. And she said, she studied anthropology. I have met a woman who tells me she knows hieroglyphics because she's studying for an Anthropology degree to add to her other one. She showed me a little necklace, which spelled out her name in hieroglyphics. So the claim about being able to read papyrus and early murals is not far from possible, and I believe Judyth can too.

Which begs the quesion: "Now we're supposed to send her money?"

Kathy C

[Barb Junkkarinen]

Now we're supposed to send her money?

BK

The infomercial over, the soft strains of "Stand By Your Man" (men?) play as one last photo and even a poem roll off the

screen ... yup, time to get out the credit card.

Bests,

Barb :-)

[Dean Hagerman]

IN RESPONSE TO JACK'S ATTACKS, JUDYTH HAS COMPOSED A POEM

NOTE: It seems to me only appropriate that Judyth should have the last

word on a thread devoted to her, which has now reached a record of 1,200

posts. Thanks to everyone who participated, including, especially, my dear

friend Jack. I should also observe that Ed Haslam will be featured as a guest

on "Coast to Coast" tomorrow night and will be talking about cancer-research,

bio-weapons, New Orleans, Judyth Vary Baker, and ME & LEE. Check it out.

FINAL THOUGHTS FROM JUDYTH

White's Little Sprite

Jack White--

just what Sprite

piped up, saying, "Dear Jim--

it seems, my old friend,

you write for Judyth, who's Dim!

She's surely unable

to write such replies--

She's dumb, and she rambles,

and has such bad eyes!

Oh Jim, I must chide you!

You surely can't be

posing as Vary ("Avary" to me!)--

She's simply unable

To write quite this well!"

(But WHO wrote this poem, Jack?

Prithee--do tell!)

I must say 'adieu," to sprites, trolls and gnomes,

I've miles to travel, between varied homes:

Yet I will posit--how else could it be

for Jack -- a believer--in "Harvey" and "Lee"

but to think that Another was taking my place

--and next, bring out photos

of an Imposter's face?

Jack, I'm still hoping

you'll remember your friend,

a man you once trusted

and should trust again.

JVB

SOME FINAL SUGGESTIONS FROM JIM:

Or visit this page: http://www.judythvarybaker.com/pages/Donate.htm

Ed Haslam maintains this page on behalf of Judty Vary Baker. And he will

appear on "Coast to Coast" tomorrow night, Thursday, 15 April 2010, to

discuss cancer research, bioweapons, and ME & LEE. Check it out! For

more on Judyth, visit her new blog at http://judythbaker.blogspot.com/

That is the worst poem I have ever laid eyes on and is not funny at all

Judyth I believe you owe Jack an apology for being so lame

[Jack White]

IN RESPONSE TO JACK'S ATTACKS, JUDYTH HAS COMPOSED A POEM

NOTE: It seems to me only appropriate that Judyth should have the last

word on a thread devoted to her, which has now reached a record of 1,200

posts. Thanks to everyone who participated, including, especially, my dear

friend Jack. I should also observe that Ed Haslam will be featured as a guest

on "Coast to Coast" tomorrow night and will be talking about cancer-research,

bio-weapons, New Orleans, Judyth Vary Baker, and ME & LEE. Check it out.

FINAL THOUGHTS FROM JUDYTH

White's Little Sprite

Jack White--

just what Sprite

piped up, saying, "Dear Jim--

it seems, my old friend,

you write for Judyth, who's Dim!

She's surely unable

to write such replies--

She's dumb, and she rambles,

and has such bad eyes!

Oh Jim, I must chide you!

You surely can't be

posing as Vary ("Avary" to me!)--

She's simply unable

To write quite this well!"

(But WHO wrote this poem, Jack?

Prithee--do tell!)

I must say 'adieu," to sprites, trolls and gnomes,

I've miles to travel, between varied homes:

Yet I will posit--how else could it be

for Jack -- a believer--in "Harvey" and "Lee"

but to think that Another was taking my place

--and next, bring out photos

of an Imposter's face?

Jack, I'm still hoping

you'll remember your friend,

a man you once trusted

and should trust again.

JVB

SOME FINAL SUGGESTIONS FROM JIM:

Or visit this page: http://www.judythvarybaker.com/pages/Donate.htm

Ed Haslam maintains this page on behalf of Judty Vary Baker. And he will

appear on "Coast to Coast" tomorrow night, Thursday, 15 April 2010, to

discuss cancer research, bioweapons, and ME & LEE. Check it out! For

more on Judyth, visit her new blog at http://judythbaker.blogspot.com/

That is the worst poem I have ever laid eyes on and is not funny at all

Judyth I believe you owe Jack an apology for being so lame

I have MADE NO ATTACKS on JVB. This is a lie!

I have stated numerous times that I have nothing but pity for her. This IS NOT AN ATTACK.

I feel sorry for her.

Jack