Guest Duncan MacRae Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 If it is not Arnold Rowland, then who is this man? This man appears to be pointing to the 6th floor WEST window. Click HERE to view the clip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 If it is not Arnold Rowland, then who is this man?This man appears to be pointing to the 6th floor WEST window. Click HERE to view the clip The man is not dressed like the man identified as Rowland in the Houston Street films. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) If you increase the gamma in the image Jack posted a tie is visible. What color hair did he have? edit:typo Edited March 14, 2010 by John Dolva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) If it is not Arnold Rowland, then who is this man?This man appears to be pointing to the 6th floor WEST window. Click HERE to view the clip The man is not dressed like the man identified as Rowland in the Houston Street films. Jack I know Jack, this is what's puzzling me. I suppose he could have taken off his coat and left it with is wife, or have Mr and Mrs Rowland been misidentified in the above image which you posted? Duncan I don't know who identified that couple as the teen-aged Rowlands. They look much too old to me. He also is wearing a long black overcoat. Edited March 14, 2010 by Jack White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 When was that interview given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 What color hair did he have? Click HERE to view Arnold Roland Interview My understanding is that this is from the movie JFK, and is NOT Rowland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Aha, I thought so. I think it was referred to some weeks ago. So is this not a proper represenatation of Rowland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 OK. So, when was the interview made? What's the date of the interview? Year, month, day. Day, month, year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Hagerman Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Duncan is correct, the interview is real You can also tell because the actor who played Rowland in JFK looks nothing like the Rowland that Duncan posted a pic of and link to the interview Go back and watch the sceen of Costner in the court room and says "Arnold Rowlnad saw....." and it shows the actor playing Rowland in black and white pointing to the TSBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Speer Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 If it is not Arnold Rowland, then who is this man?This man appears to be pointing to the 6th floor WEST window. Click HERE to view the clip Testimony of James Crawford: Mr. CRAWFORD - As I observed the parade, I believe there was a car leading the President's car, followed by the President's car and followed, I suppose, by the Vice Presiden't car and, in turn, by the secret Service in a yellow closed sedan. The doors of the Sedan were open. It was after the Secret Service Sedan had gone around the corner that I heard the first report and at that time I thought it was a backfire of a car but, in analyzing the situation, it could not have been a backfire of a car because it would have had to have been the President's car or some car in the cavalcade there. The second shot followed some seconds, a little time elapsed after the first one, and followed very quickly by the third one. I could not see the President's car - Mr. BALL - At that time? Mr. CRAWFORD - That's right; I couldn't even see the secret Service car, at least wasn't looking for it. As the report from the third shot sounded, I looked up. I had previously looked around to see if there was somebody shooting firecrackers to see if I could see a puff of smoke, and after I decided it wasn't a backfire from an automobile and as the third report sounded, I looked up and from the far east corner of the sixth floor I saw a movement. It was just barely a glimpse. Mr. BALL - Which window? Mr. CRAWFORD - That would be the far east window - Mr. BALL - On the - Mr. CRAWFORD - On the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. I turned to Miss Mitchell and made the statement that if those were shots they came from that window. That was based mainly on the fact of the quick movement observrd in the window right at the conclusion of the report. Mr. BALL - Could you give me any better description than just a movement? Could you use any other words to describe what you saw by way of color or size of what you saw moving? Mr. CRAWFORD - If I were asked to describe it, I would say that it was a profile, somewhat from the waist up, but it was very quick movement and rather indistinct and it was very light colored. It was either light colored or it was a reflection from the sun. When the gun fas found, or when a gun was found, I asked the question if it was white, simply because if it was a gun I saw, then it was either white or it was reflecting the sn so it would appear white or light colored. Mr. BALL - What caused you to look up at the Texas School Book Depository Building? Mr. CRAWFORD - The sound had to be coming from somewhere; the noise was being made at some place, so I didn't see anyone shooting firecrackers or anything else and I thought "this idiot surely shouldn't do such a thing," but if they were, where were they, and if they were shots, where were they coming from, and that caused me to search the whole area on Houston Street and in front of the Texas Depository on Elm Street and then up and that's how I happened to be looking up at the time, rather than observing things in the street, probably. Mr. BALL - Did you ever see any smoke? Mr. CRAWFORD - No, sir; I did not. Mr. BALL - In your remark to Mary Ann Mitchell, did you say "If those were shots, they came from that window"? Mr. CRAWFORD - Yes. Mr. BALL - That is what you reported to the FBI agent, also? Mr. CRAWFORD - Yes, I suppose; at the time, I was still not absolutely sure they were shots and that's why I said if they were shots. I was basing that, I am sure I was basing that mainly on the fact of this quick movement that I observed. In other words, If I were firing the shots, I would have jumped back immediately at the conclusion of them. Mr. BALL - Later on, did you go back in the street and talk to someone? Mr. CRAWFORD - Yes. Mr. BALL - Did you talk to a deputy sheriff? Mr. CRAWFORD - Allen Swett. Mr. BALL - What did you tell him? Mr. CRAWFORD - I told him to have the men search the boxes directly behind this window that was open on the sixth floor - the window in the far east corner. Mr. BALL - Did you tell him anything of what you had seen? Mr. CRAWFORD - I don't think so. I think I was so amazed that I could walk across the street and walk up to this building that was supposedly under surveillance and the man had not been - I say "the man" - there had not been anyone apprehended. Mr. BALL - How long was it after you heard the shots that you walked up to Allen Swett and talked to him? Mr. CRAWFORD - My guess is it could have been anywhere from 10 - 20 minutes. My guess would be around 15 - 20 minutes. Mr. BALL - In the statement you made to the FBI agent, he reports you said you walked to the Texas School Book Depository where you contacted Deputy Sheriff Allen Swett and advised him of the movement you had seen in the sixth floor window? Mr. CRAWFORD - I must have told him something about the movement. I did tell him to serch those windows, I think. Mr. BALL - could you in your own words give us your memory of what you told Allen Swett? Mr. CRAWFORD - I would probably have said, as I remember it, that to have the men search - have someone search the boxes directly behind that window. I had seen some movement directly after the shots. That was, I think, all I said. I did not - there was no conversation and at the conclusion of my statement, he directed several men up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 You are correct Duncan. Arnold Rowland can be seen in the 1967 CBS program " TheWarren Report" Also look at Don's plat, for the Rowland's position ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 So it could be three years older? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernice Moore Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) arnold rowland..b Edited March 14, 2010 by Bernice Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Parker Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 The interview is 100% genuine. It is NOT from the JFK movie.Duncan, It is without doubt, Rowland in this interview. The man in the original clip is not - and though unfortunately I can't say who it is, I note Sean Murphy has made a pretty good guess at who it might be. The man Rowland describes as an "elderly Negro" was to very large degree of certainty, Eddie Piper. I have tried to contact Mr Rowland a couple of times via what I am reasonably sure is a correct and working email address. He has not responded to those emails. I can understand that, but the pity is, I believe he was royally screwed over by both the WC and the FBI and with his help, I could prove that. I obtained the complete CBS programme with all of the interviews with an assortment of witnesses, including Arnold Rowland, a few years ago, from another researcher which cost me $35. Bernice gave me the name of the researcher, who I contacted, but who's name escapes me at the moment. Some of these interviews, including Rowland's can be seen on the home page of my forum, and many more can be viwed in the " Video and Audio" section. Click HERE to go to JFK Assassination Forum I am the source of these videos which have all been uploaded to my Youtube channel. Click HERE to visit my Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd W. Vaughan Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 arnold rowland..b Bernice, The man in the picture in your post is Tom Alyea in November of 1964, not Arnold Rowland. Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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